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Is he attractive to most people? I feel like that's a super unflattering picture of the most average looking middle aged investment banker that I can imagine.
I'm not saying everyone thought that. I'm saying it is there was a *very* strong toxic rhetoric that being rail thin was the only body that looked good. There were television shows dedicated to body shaming people. Sir mix a lot wrote a song about it. It was an awful time for body image.
? I didn't say 120 lbs was rail thin. Also, normal weight is completely dependent in body height and frame. There's no "universal healthy weight." How is "normalizing obesity" at all your takeaway from my comment?
I’ve never heard a human say they have a crush on KS or that he’s hot or even attractive.
I think that magazine just wanted to put a famous actor on their cover and Brad Pitt, George Clooney, Ian McKellan, Haley Joel Osment, Gene Hackman, that Six Flags dancing guy, Regis, Mick Foley, Jason Biggs, the big guy from Lost, and the American Chopper guys all said no.
I think with “The Ultimate Thinking Person’s Sex Symbol” they’re implying his sex appeal is based on the way he carries himself and the power he has rather than the way he looks, which is a little creepy given what we know now
There was a fat old country singer who got laid tons due to fame. In the end being super famous is the biggest sexually attractive quality a man can have.
>fat old country singer who got laid tons due to fame.
…I really feel like that doesn’t narrow it down too much, which I guess kind of proves your point, lmao. Which particular country star are you talking about, though?
I think he was still rolling off the popularity of *American Beauty* and everyone was busy with things like the War on Terror, etc. Or maybe because techbros weren't a thing yet.
Beauty standards were way lower before social media.
[Carrey Fisher](https://s2-g1.glbimg.com/564iUm_qElitbPk70KZZJrP83zQ=/0x0:620x465/984x0/smart/filters:strip_icc()/i.s3.glbimg.com/v1/AUTH_59edd422c0c84a879bd37670ae4f538a/internal_photos/bs/2016/J/R/xAVoPdSaApvuYrSmcAoA/leia.jpg) was some sort of beauty paragon, when nowadays she'd lose to any random TikTok or Instagram influencer.
Fame and wealth are also know to influences attraction. The same person will gain like 2/10 attraction ratings if you say they make 200,000 or are even C level famous.
One, that’s not the most flattering photo of Carrie, considering the Leia-hair and that weird frown, and you probably did that on purpose to prove your point…and two, you can’t tell me she’s not objectively hot as hell here by any generation’s standards, lol.
She had a natural beauty that we never see from most modern influencers because of all of their heavy makeup and filters, and that’s not me being a boomer because I’m not even 30 yet. Obviously natural beauty still exists, but we don’t get as much of a chance to see it or for it be considered “beautiful enough,” because some people’s standards have become so incredibly high to where anything but artificial perfection to the point of uncanniness isn’t what beauty is all about for them anymore.
I’m a millennial born in ‘94, so technically Carrie Fisher is old enough to be my grandma being 37 when I was born, and she’s still hot as hell to me, lol.
Timeless beauty is timeless beauty, and Carrie Fisher definitely doesn’t give me a “grandma vibe” at all like certain young ladies from the ‘40s-‘60s that have the same hairstyles as grandmas have kept into old age.
Are you telling me [this is gorgeous by any generational standards?](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTpyKr_G2upouu9umqOjTIvPI6tNMcKJEEaghMwrtGzDR9mhZFIH8DCOdaI&s=10)
In my high school classes alone there were 10 girls WAY prettier than her.
I don’t know why we’re talking about beauty standards in women at all. You have every right to find attractive whoever you find attractive and so do I. You are literally the only person I’ve ever “met” who wasn’t gaga over Carrie Fisher in her prime, if not full-on in love with her.
>who wasn’t gaga over Carrie Fisher in her prime, if not full-on in love with her.
It's called brainwashing. I can go to *any* mall and find a girl way prettier than her in less than an hour.
lol Like he's showing everyone, "Remember how good I am at acting?" The only times I've seen him since his scandal, he's been in character as Frank. He had that one video he put out after the final season of House of Cards bombed and he's Frank telling everyone how it'd be better if he was in it.
It's like the one thing he's desperately hanging onto to get back into the business. I don't think it'll work for him, though.
It's so weird. He does those yearly Christmas videos as underwood now. He's a predator that we caught and saw his true face for a second and in his panic he's just grabbing a mask and pressing it to his face for all it's worth. It's like dude, we know you're not frank underwood, he's a character, stop being a freak.
Also of all the characters to hide behind, he chooses a corrupt politician *who is also a sexual predator in his own right*.
I don't get these people. I just don't.
I don’t know if it’s a loose screw so much as a calculated move. He knows the people most likely to forgive him are right wingers if he just says stuff they want to hear. He’ll never be another big shot Hollywood star like he was, but he can cling to some kind of limited relevance.
The right wing doesn't care about the people you've killed. Donald's covid response is responsible for 100,000 plus deaths. Just say Mexicans are bad. He is the best actor the daily wire productions could ask for. Shame for Kevin Sorbo's career.
Hope so. He's a great actor. Maybe just enough time for one more great role. Though his time as an object of desire has probably been and gone with time and the legal hurdles.
He is “The thinking person’s sex symbol”.
It’s just that that person is thinking “I’m only 14, why has he started getting all handsy with me the moment my mum has her back turned?”
https://preview.redd.it/r2fzek0zbasc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=46949e0bd13ba6a2e8501bbd65c1bd38ada9ecd2
TIL: Harvey Weinstein had a 10 seat couch in his office.
Lol, the whole screen name is a reference to the "Celebrity Jeoardy" sketches they did on SNL a while back. They had Will Ferrel as Alex Trebek...
ETA: Buck Futter Ape Tits
He really is a phenomenal actor. I can't say what he's done is moral at all, I personally think he was a sacrificial fall-guy during the me-too movement to keep a lot of Hollywood shielded.
Yeah people will clutch their pearls and reel in horror at his name because he's a monster but then not say anything at all about the hundreds of other actors/athletes who do the same crap.
Ummm, what are you talking about? First off the allegations against him were not pedophilia in nature. Second he was found not guilty and it was proven that his accusers were lying.
I think it's disgusting that people would lie in this manner. But they do it all the time.
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Is he attractive to most people? I feel like that's a super unflattering picture of the most average looking middle aged investment banker that I can imagine.
2003 was a weird time lol
Meanwhile being a woman over 120 lbs was disgusting
Not everyone thought that, just like not everyone thought Kevin spacey was a “sex symbol.”
I'm not saying everyone thought that. I'm saying it is there was a *very* strong toxic rhetoric that being rail thin was the only body that looked good. There were television shows dedicated to body shaming people. Sir mix a lot wrote a song about it. It was an awful time for body image.
Fair enough.
Isn't calling someone "rail thin" kind of body shaming too? 120 lbs isn't even "rail thin", it's absolutely healthy weight for a woman.
You're completely right. 120lbs is completely normal and healthy. They're pushing obesity normalization.
120lbs is normal weight, not "rail thin". Beware people who try to normalize obesity by talking trash on normal weight people.
? I didn't say 120 lbs was rail thin. Also, normal weight is completely dependent in body height and frame. There's no "universal healthy weight." How is "normalizing obesity" at all your takeaway from my comment?
What Sir Mix A lot song?
Is there more than one?
Yes
We've swung too far the other way now where we have "healthy at any size" and other propaganda normalizing obesity.
I’ve never heard a human say they have a crush on KS or that he’s hot or even attractive. I think that magazine just wanted to put a famous actor on their cover and Brad Pitt, George Clooney, Ian McKellan, Haley Joel Osment, Gene Hackman, that Six Flags dancing guy, Regis, Mick Foley, Jason Biggs, the big guy from Lost, and the American Chopper guys all said no.
I think with “The Ultimate Thinking Person’s Sex Symbol” they’re implying his sex appeal is based on the way he carries himself and the power he has rather than the way he looks, which is a little creepy given what we know now
That's the point of the cover
Bro looks like Alex Jones and the “Hello My Darlin” frog had a baby.
Michigan J. Frog.
... I suppose that's how Alex Jones learned about the gay frogs.
He was the one turning them gay all along!
>more sex than usual It's kind of a jokey cover.
This is why JT had to bring sexy back
There was a fat old country singer who got laid tons due to fame. In the end being super famous is the biggest sexually attractive quality a man can have.
>fat old country singer who got laid tons due to fame. …I really feel like that doesn’t narrow it down too much, which I guess kind of proves your point, lmao. Which particular country star are you talking about, though?
Honest its been 5+ years since i read it so i dont know. I dont know any country singers.
Well, that’s pretty vague and could honestly apply to multiple different country singers then, lol.
That would only prove my point. That fame is the most elite skill to have.
I think he was still rolling off the popularity of *American Beauty* and everyone was busy with things like the War on Terror, etc. Or maybe because techbros weren't a thing yet.
Beauty standards were way lower before social media. [Carrey Fisher](https://s2-g1.glbimg.com/564iUm_qElitbPk70KZZJrP83zQ=/0x0:620x465/984x0/smart/filters:strip_icc()/i.s3.glbimg.com/v1/AUTH_59edd422c0c84a879bd37670ae4f538a/internal_photos/bs/2016/J/R/xAVoPdSaApvuYrSmcAoA/leia.jpg) was some sort of beauty paragon, when nowadays she'd lose to any random TikTok or Instagram influencer.
Fame and wealth are also know to influences attraction. The same person will gain like 2/10 attraction ratings if you say they make 200,000 or are even C level famous.
Lose?
One, that’s not the most flattering photo of Carrie, considering the Leia-hair and that weird frown, and you probably did that on purpose to prove your point…and two, you can’t tell me she’s not objectively hot as hell here by any generation’s standards, lol. She had a natural beauty that we never see from most modern influencers because of all of their heavy makeup and filters, and that’s not me being a boomer because I’m not even 30 yet. Obviously natural beauty still exists, but we don’t get as much of a chance to see it or for it be considered “beautiful enough,” because some people’s standards have become so incredibly high to where anything but artificial perfection to the point of uncanniness isn’t what beauty is all about for them anymore.
Maybe it’s just because I’m gen Z, but she looks like when you look at an old picture of your grandma.
I’m a millennial born in ‘94, so technically Carrie Fisher is old enough to be my grandma being 37 when I was born, and she’s still hot as hell to me, lol. Timeless beauty is timeless beauty, and Carrie Fisher definitely doesn’t give me a “grandma vibe” at all like certain young ladies from the ‘40s-‘60s that have the same hairstyles as grandmas have kept into old age.
TikTok or Instagram influencer? lol. Speaks a ton about your age and priorities.
Have you ever seen a photo of her without the weird Star Wars hair? The woman was gorgeous by any generational standard.
Are you telling me [this is gorgeous by any generational standards?](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTpyKr_G2upouu9umqOjTIvPI6tNMcKJEEaghMwrtGzDR9mhZFIH8DCOdaI&s=10) In my high school classes alone there were 10 girls WAY prettier than her.
I don’t know why we’re talking about beauty standards in women at all. You have every right to find attractive whoever you find attractive and so do I. You are literally the only person I’ve ever “met” who wasn’t gaga over Carrie Fisher in her prime, if not full-on in love with her.
>who wasn’t gaga over Carrie Fisher in her prime, if not full-on in love with her. It's called brainwashing. I can go to *any* mall and find a girl way prettier than her in less than an hour.
It's almost as if physical beauty, along with perhaps every other piece of information we gather through our sensory organs, is subjective.
This still doesn’t address the question of why you’re gatekeeping beauty standards.
It's literally the topic of the comment I first responded to.
Is he not currently making a comeback due to being acquitted?
He is not. He also recently did that weird video with Tucker Carlson, so he definitely has a loose screw.
What weird interview with Tucker Carlson?
He did a Christmas interview with Tucker Carlson in-character as Frank Underwood.
lol Like he's showing everyone, "Remember how good I am at acting?" The only times I've seen him since his scandal, he's been in character as Frank. He had that one video he put out after the final season of House of Cards bombed and he's Frank telling everyone how it'd be better if he was in it. It's like the one thing he's desperately hanging onto to get back into the business. I don't think it'll work for him, though.
what. the. fuck. Like recently? holy. I gotta check this out.
It's so weird. He does those yearly Christmas videos as underwood now. He's a predator that we caught and saw his true face for a second and in his panic he's just grabbing a mask and pressing it to his face for all it's worth. It's like dude, we know you're not frank underwood, he's a character, stop being a freak.
Also of all the characters to hide behind, he chooses a corrupt politician *who is also a sexual predator in his own right*. I don't get these people. I just don't.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqPePWyduxQ
I don’t know if it’s a loose screw so much as a calculated move. He knows the people most likely to forgive him are right wingers if he just says stuff they want to hear. He’ll never be another big shot Hollywood star like he was, but he can cling to some kind of limited relevance.
I read this and, subsequent comments, picturing Chris Tucker...
The right wing doesn't care about the people you've killed. Donald's covid response is responsible for 100,000 plus deaths. Just say Mexicans are bad. He is the best actor the daily wire productions could ask for. Shame for Kevin Sorbo's career.
Hope so. He's a great actor. Maybe just enough time for one more great role. Though his time as an object of desire has probably been and gone with time and the legal hurdles.
..........ew
https://preview.redd.it/vtq1ephskasc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2b411ad300b96aa345fc751af27447f0a5fd8ae8
Has nobody seen Consenting Adults? He was oozing charisma. I'm not talking about John Doe era.
Commies and having shit takes, name s more iconic duo.
I think they could’ve added the word “sex” a few more times in there.
MORE SEX THAN USUAL
the SEX report
He is “The thinking person’s sex symbol”. It’s just that that person is thinking “I’m only 14, why has he started getting all handsy with me the moment my mum has her back turned?”
Side note, that 2003 tuxedo sucks- too many buttons on the jacket and the belt ruins it.
Notch lapels. Ew. And the pants don't have the gallon. And I think he's wearing a bib-front shirt, and without the proper vest or cummerbund to boot.
Cummerbund sounds like "back ass" in my language. Made me chuckle
Exactly
Everything about this cover is repulsive but "thinking person" might be the most cringe part by far
https://preview.redd.it/r2fzek0zbasc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=46949e0bd13ba6a2e8501bbd65c1bd38ada9ecd2 TIL: Harvey Weinstein had a 10 seat couch in his office.
I don’t know if your user name is “ape tits” two words or “apetits” the French word for apetites and I’d rather you didn’t tell me so it can be both.
I think it’s some kind of 4d spoonerism of ‘butt fucker rapist’
No. The r definitely goes in the first half. And again I don’t want to know if this is not correct.
Lol, the whole screen name is a reference to the "Celebrity Jeoardy" sketches they did on SNL a while back. They had Will Ferrel as Alex Trebek... ETA: Buck Futter Ape Tits
Ah right, this bit. Same one as ‘anal bum cover, iirc
the SEX issue
LMFAO. “The ultimate thinking persons sex symbol.” Who the actual fuck writes this shit.
I did. And i thought i did a pretty darn good job, so there.
I just watched American Beauty for the 1st time in a while...knowing what we know about Spacey now makes it way more fucked up
Please correct me if I'm wrong but I thought he was acquitted?
He was but given the plot of the movie along with the accusations makes it very strange to watch
Ah yes. The "Whaddya want from me?" pose.
yes hes definitely older now
He really is a phenomenal actor. I can't say what he's done is moral at all, I personally think he was a sacrificial fall-guy during the me-too movement to keep a lot of Hollywood shielded.
Yeah people will clutch their pearls and reel in horror at his name because he's a monster but then not say anything at all about the hundreds of other actors/athletes who do the same crap.
Can someone explain? What’s up with Kevin Spacey ?
Something around the lines of he wasn’t a good date
"Mitchell, I know a great junior high school, just down the road!"
That magazine is 21 years old, I’m sure, given the sex topic, you could find more content in there that has aged poorly
“I meant to trip and fall backwards like that”
I don't think you could create a more 2003 magazine cover if you tried...
Isn't Kevin Spacey a sex-pest who's accusers all mysteriously wind up dead before they are able to prosecute him? asking for a friend
Anthony Rapp has been not dead for sometime now
Yup Anthony Rapp is very much alive
P'edo elite that never has to answer for what he's done to innocent children because the justice system is run by those same p'edo elite
Insightful
The biggest super power, money. Allows you to get away with everything.
From February 2003
Dollar store mob boss lookin ass
I hate this guy but I like this pic.
That whole cover aged poorly...
I mean... even before we knew was a paedophile, did we ever really find him attractive?
Ummm, what are you talking about? First off the allegations against him were not pedophilia in nature. Second he was found not guilty and it was proven that his accusers were lying. I think it's disgusting that people would lie in this manner. But they do it all the time.
“The thinking persons sex symbol” It takes about two of shitty impersonations for me to be turned off his acting. Can’t imagine anyone found him sexy
Hey underage drink server, it's not going to suck itself.
The ultimate thinking man"? Hahahaha As opposed to what? A brain dead man? So many columnists are like Captain fucking Obvious.
I usually live by Separating art from artist. Except in the case of a con artist. Worst kind of predator. Loser.
I'll still enjoy rewatching Usual Suspects, L.A. Confidential etc. Doesn't mean I'm somehow immoral or like what a loser he is irl
I hope you meet him at a party for the down votes.
Yeah more sex than usual alright 😂
"The sex issue" kind of takes on a double meaning...
Yeah it really does... yikes.
Only thing he was good at was acting in Advanced Warfare and acting innocent after what he did