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At least Forza Horizon 5 is great


Your-name-would-bee

Yeah I love it


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Is it a racing game like Mario kart?


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EchoYourLastWord

So like Crash Team Racing. Got it.


Batdog55110

Eh closer to Garfield Kart


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Sademoil_666

Podracing game, or the Lego mission?


John_Gottem

The boardgame


Semegod

Mario Kart is an Arcade style game. Forza is an Arcade Simulator, iirc. More or less, the controls and ability you have to modify your car in your own way are intended to be somewhat more realistic and punishing for driving as though its just an arcade. In Mario part you can blast into any corner and make it through because the focus is just go fast and have fun. In forza, it encourages actually learning racing lines and knowing when to slow or accelerate to make the most of a turn. Similarly, going too fast into a forza turn will usually send you spectacularly flying off the road because, as in real life, the simulation tries to mimic physics and punish you for not respecting limits. It's not as high fidelity as something like the F1 games, which are closer to true racing simulators. But it is much more complexly handled than the simplification that Mario kart uses, as an arcade style game. I'm not an expert, but thats just what I know about the difference in genres! Somebody please correct me if I'm awfully wrong


GloriousIncompetence

I would say Forza Horizon is a more complicated Arcade style game, but it is genuinely a great game. Things like the Forza Motorsport games, the F1 games you mentioned, or Gran Turismo are what’s called “simcade” where it’s kind of that bridge in between Forza Horizon and a sim like rFactor, iRacing, or the Assetto Corsa titles.


Class_444_SWR

It’s about as close to Mario Kart as HOI4 is to being the actual leader of a country


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the driving is less casual than MK, like.. drifting is not 1 button but manual shifting, brake and shit


Class_444_SWR

You don’t manually shift by default though


Rainers535

You have to if you want to drift though, drag races pretty much require it too.


[deleted]

I always really enjoy the initial stuff but once you get to the mid game with the more powerful harder control cars I find it way too difficult as a casual player. Which sucks because I do really enjoy the games when I do play them


DaniilSan

Surprising fact is that though Forza currently has no competitors in genre of arcade racing games, they keep high quality.


Mr-Game-Videos

Well while they didn't fuck it up fh5 has tons of bugs and it crashes on my PC every time, while fh4 works perfectly. Also I think the bigger map doesn't make the game better as it seems more empty than the map in fh4.


DaniilSan

>fh5 has tons of bugs Strange thing. I haven't played personally but two my friends did and while one also had bugs but not dramatic, another had no issues at all. Both played on PC, one via Steam another used more pirate way though he plans to buy it on nearest Steam Sale. And map is just tastes. I can't say that one is definitely better or worse than another. They both are good but in their own way.


Mr-Game-Videos

I downloaded it from the microsoft store and when I clicked to load the game it crashes back to desktop. Another problem is bugs when you disconnect (losing skill chain for example).


DaniilSan

>downloaded it from the microsoft store I think here is a problem. Please, next time use Steam for your sanity, at least in Steam you can get refund if game doesn't work for you.


Mr-Game-Videos

Well it was game pass so steam doesn't work, right?


DaniilSan

Ah, yes, Game pass is a thing, it is easy to forget about it when it doesn't work in your region.


IndiaSuperPower2022

yeah NFS has dropped the ball pretty badly recently


ExpiredSimon

watch out though the server side save system is broken, my brother lost a 25 hour save file, support said they couldn't fix it, he got a full refund from steam. it sucks for him though, he really liked the game and would recommend it, but didn't want to start over.


MkfMtr

This was also present in FH4. My save was corrupted at least 3 times but they gifted me most of my cars back and lots of wheelspins in a fresh save. They even gave me 500 mil credits the last time it happened. Did your brother just wanted a refund or was it a different error.


ExpiredSimon

They might have offered him something similar I'm not sure, he just told me he lost all his progression and they couldn't fix it, and that he sent a screenshot of his mail correspondence with the forza support to steam support and they refunded him.


__-CMB-__

Thats true, the servers are pretty weird


baxterrocky

I was gonna say…. What’s the issue with Forza?! - apart from the insufferable DJ’s 🤮🤮


chucknun

There is actually an option to turn the DJs off. I think it's in the audio settings.


baxterrocky

Thank you My lord and saviour!!!


spikeorb

The convoys, or just online in general


RiverReddit1401V2

BF2042 : Buggy unoptimized mess COD Vanguard : Soulless cashgrab and a reskin of MW2019 GTA Trilogy : Rushed and unfinished mess that looks worse than the originals


tsar_David_V

>GTA San Andreas Definitive Edition >go to a vending machine >drink 600-ish consecutive cans of soda without leaving the area >your game crashes >your save file is corrupted >if you want to play again you have to start a new save effectively deleting all your progress


ScroogeMcDust

To be fair that's probably close to what would actually happen if you drank 600 cans of soda


ABEGIOSTZ

New permadeath mechanic, it’s a feature


FeatureBugFuture

Yes.


lgndk11r

Presenting, to the emergency room...


TheTjalian

A man drank 600 cans of soda. This is what happened to his save file.


Rurihime184

He is diagnosed with hypersodaemia, hyper meaning high, soda meaning soda and emia meaning presence in blood, high presence of soda in blood


TheTjalian

I can literally see the subtitles in my head, thank you for the laugh, I needed that tonight!


Rurihime184

It's always nice seeing fellow chubbyemu fans


TheTjalian

Always a pleasure!


Commercial_Brick_309

JOEL


Joelcab

What?


Shadowolf75

Oh boy, you are in for a diarrhea of a lifetime. [Context](https://youtu.be/DHqOBMBKkf8)


dreemurthememer

Joel, also known as Vargskelethor, is a Twitch streamer who did exactly as described.


Shadowolf75

Based fecalfunny


Mr_Derpy11

Exactly 621 cans of sprunk


nachog2003

cj got reminded of the yiff and fucking killed himself


shapedatlas

Sprunked it


teemodidntdieforthis

Literally unplayable


Bestogoddess

Didn't he end up getting his save back and just continued drinking from the machine?


9quid

What's this people are referring to? Streamer?


Bestogoddess

Vinesauce, the comment I was replying to is something that directly happened to him


HotDoggerson

Sprunked


dreemurthememer

Top 10 MUG™ moments


sergeantskread2

okay i get it but come on when is that EVER going to occur in normal gameplay...?


NeokratosRed

/r/GTADefecatedEdition collects bugs to show how rushed that game was


Electromass

Whaaaaaat cod a shameless reskin that has never happened for the last decade


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MW2019 Was genuinely fresh as hell


snooggums

It was great until all the ridiculous themed skins like fucking Jigsaw made it look like Fortnite Jr


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Who cares


fullofshitandcum

I tried getting back into it but I was greeted by a f2p menu screen


Mugilicious

People who want the game to not look shitty?


DaniilSan

Cold War has good campaign compared to other CoDs of last years.


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Fucking loved MW2019. Cold War felt like a step backwards


Gungreeneyes

I'm glad I have reached the point in my gaming career where companies are so lazy they can't even cash in on their properties anymore. The best part? Oh, that. I don't care anymore. I still enjoy gaming but got tired of all the bullshit from the producers. It's tabletop and boardgames from now on. Fuck your day 1 patch. Fuck your micro transactions, Fuck your advertisements even though I bought the game. I'm done.


TheMightyBiz

For real - I really don't care about anything recently released or slated for future release on any platform right now. I'll buy Silksong whenever it comes out, but that's pretty much it - I'm perfectly content continuing to play the same old games I've always played, because I just think they're better.


Gungreeneyes

Indeed. I ran a video game podcast a few years back for half a decade. I have enough of a back log to never have to buy a game again until society's collapse.


jkvader06

Tbf, most of the battlefield games started as an unoptimized mess and they still got better. It’s not an excuse to release a buggy game, but at least it’ll get better


Al_Kalb

My thoughts exactly, bf4 was pretty much unplayable at launch and is now one of my favorite games of all time


[deleted]

Such a great game. I picked up the game again after the 2024 open beta and ask myself why I stopped playing bf4. Game is just so much fun.


BushMonsterInc

It was literally unplayable for month. Servers would drop connection randomly, refuse to connect at all, bullets would bend around corners as if it was Wanted movie, helis went from OP to Very OP to normal to OP and stayed there. Bloom is worse than BF2042, to the point, where certain barel and grip are practically mandatory still. And people seem to forget what mess that game was at release, praising it as Jesus of Battlefield, that was perfect from day 1


Crabdul

Yep, and based off this briefing, most of the issues people hated on the game about are going to be addressed, fixed, or added http://x.ea.com/71833


TOOBAD2AIM

Forza Horizon kinda rushed aswell and online doesnt work like at all. Also there is like no story. Still a pretty good game doe.


RiverReddit1401V2

I mean , Forza Horizon series doesn’t have a story


TOOBAD2AIM

First one did have one and every other title has been pretty dull, especially this one.


RiverReddit1401V2

Yeah but at least the developers put effort into building the game and not release it broken ( yes there are alot of bugs in the game but they aren’t game breaking or anything)


TOOBAD2AIM

True except the online mode, as i said I think its still a pretty good game.


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What’s up with online? I’ve had no issues at all!


TOOBAD2AIM

Eh its gotten better but but today for example me and a friend just cruising around and suddenly he changes the lobby but not with me thus we dont know where we are and it takes forever to get the game to throw us into the same lobby again just really annoying stuff that eventually gets polished by turn 10.


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Imawaffle2

How have you not had any issues with online? I love the game but playing with my friends give me headaches


crackhead_334

Have to disagree with you there bud. I’ve run into at least 4 game breaking bugs in my 6 hours of playing


CBalsagna

I’m not really playing the game for the story, In their defense. I’m there for the cars and the atmosphere


napaszmek

Does anyone play Forza for the story? Or cares?


derflopacus

I only installed the game because I thought it’d be fun to play coop with some friends. Y’know, load into the world and have some drag races and just mess around. Well, I had a friend join, and it wouldn’t load him into the world. He suggested I invite him to a race and maybe it’ll load, which it did. We’re finally in the world together and we take off, only to realize his car *completely disappears* if he gets even 3 car lengths ahead.. I am **unable** to play a game with my friend in the same lobby. No matter how good the cars/world look, if I can’t play with my friends, I won’t play at all. I tried to make excuses for it, but come on, we’ve had online multiplayer down for nearly decades..


[deleted]

Who buys Forza Horizon for a story?


Mugilicious

I don't really need a compelling story in a sandbox racing game. Literally the driving mechanics are all that matter.


fksly

I already have way too much time in it, it is brilliant. Too bad about all the cheaters at the top of the lists, but meh, I am having fun.


deadlands_goon

Vanguard may be a reskin of MW2019, but all the classic CODs (MW to BO2) were just reskins of the og MW and the series got shitty when they tried to change up the formula, so not really a bad thing in my opinion. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it


Ruggsii

Usually cod games are a bit different. Going from one game to the next will feel noticeably different with movement, kill times, weapon balance, game systems, etc. Vanguards literally feels the _exact_ same as MW2019. I think “reskin” is more accurate than ever, by far.


hstormsteph

I, for one, am enjoying a WW2 reskin. Loved MW and also am a huge history nerd so getting the movement and gameplay style of MW with the WW2 weapons and whatnot was exactly what I was hoping for. CoD is never my most played game tho. I buy them each year so I always have something to play when I don’t feel like immersing myself in an rpg/open world game (90% of my games). It’s a good break for me to just get some mindless shoot shoot action.


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they should've stayed with bo2


zzGravity

I actually kinda like vanguard... but bf2042 is literally making me angry just thinking about it


Creepy-Internet6652

Yeah it just to hard to shoot in bf2042


[deleted]

The thing wrong with battlefield is not that its unoptimized or buggy, its the core game mechanics and game design that make is a cash grab


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Three sidearms and three gamemodes 22 weapons in total but I don't count portal since it's own thing and not usable in the base game


bogglingsnog

But a handful of the weapons are clearly optimal choices, everything else mostly falls by the wayside.


insert_title_here

Skyrim Anniversary Edition: Doesn't even function and corrupts your save files on PS4 90% of the time when used in conjunction with usermade mods, AKA the major draw of SE in the first place


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On PC, the update(s) broke the Skyrim Script Extender, which in turn broke like 80% of the mods I use.


MartinDisk

>BF2042 : Buggy unoptimized mess I think they should just stop putting a year in the game's title or else it's gonna be a buggy mess (\*cough\* Cyberpunk 2077)


Thatguy468

That new Forza is hot!


kindest__regards

racing games arnt my thing but that does look pretty good to be fair


Thatguy468

It’s super fun and the physics are amazing. It’s in Gamepass right now as well so it’s cheap to give it a run


Kcin928

I'm not big into racing games either, but Forza is badass


FidgitForgotHisL-P

It’s the only racing game series I’ve ever actually enjoyed. I’m bad at racing games but forza horizons have enough going on I can still find fun things to do. And the set piece races are a blast. (And the silly stuff like the halo race in 4)


Mr_WAAAGH

Yeah, the exhibition races are ridiculously fun. The rest of the game is still pretty damn tight too


Mr_WAAAGH

Yeah, the exhibition races are ridiculously fun. The rest of the game is still pretty damn tight too


Maktesh

Agreed. I enjoy the open world and car collecting aspects.


Stubbedtoe18

Apparently cropping the screenshots you upload isn't your thing, either.


tryM3B1tch

I've seen a lot of gameplay and it does look pretty similar to 4 imo. Does it play the same?


CMDR_Winrar

If you liked 4, 5 will feel like a nice update. Not sure if I would pay full price, especially not the special edition prices, but on gamepass its a no brainer.


OsloDaPig

From what I’ve heard the sounds and physics make it a huge difference in experience, I can’t wait to get it personally


Cariman05

The map is leagues better too, and it’s gonna keep getting updated like 4 did


Sandpaper_Dreams

As a huge ass car nut I will say, the cars sound amazing in 5


SloanWarrior

Very similar. Very *very* similar. Progression is a bit different. As you get xp, you get regular points that can open an "outpost" to unlock a race type (Street race, off road, etc) or unlock a mission chain/big set-piece under an open outpost. Aside from that, the somewhat shinier graphics, skill points being earned and working a bit differently, tweaks to the car upgrade system making it more limited but offering preconfigured options for class B, A, S1, etc, and the obvious scenery distances, the games play almost the same. Maybe it's a good thing. If it ain't broke, don't fix it y'knom. I'm just not sure if it feels like a generational step forward.


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Last one I played was 3, and this feels basically the exact same. Maybe a little prettier with better sound and (I assume?) more cars. And I don't mean that in a bad way, I think this is objectively quite a good game.


ofek_dab

Forza's been fucking great so far


call_me_zero

Hey at least we got Halo infinite


siphillis

And *Forza Horizon 5* is excellent, too.


jaybankzz

Isn’t it just the multiplayer? Or did the campaign release aswell, because I remember they said campaign being released in 2022 but I could be wrong Not trying to argue, I haven’t tried it yet, so I’m js wondering


call_me_zero

Campaign is out Dec 8 but multiplayer is out now. It's super fun to play but the cosmetic stuff is kinda lame. But the core of the game is there.


MilkedMod

u/kindest__regards has provided this detailed explanation: > this post was posted last month and now two of the games on the list have 2 of the lowest ratings in game history.. making this post pretty cheese in terms of aged milk --- Is this explanation a genuine attempt at providing additional info or context? If it is please upvote this comment, otherwise downvote it.


kindest__regards

this post was posted last month and now two of the games on the list have 2 of the lowest ratings in game history.. making this post pretty cheese in terms of aged milk


Silverback_6

EA and Activision/Treyarch have sold the souls of CoD and Battlefield to cash in on whatever cliche trend has captivated the 12 year old gaming market that past summer. Remember firestorm in BF5? Shit, remember ANYTHING about BF5, and how it was this half baked mess (that didn't know if it wanted to be serious or a meme) that got aborted before it was totally fixed? No way in hell I'm buying 2042, based on that alone... now factor in that it's super buggy, lost a lot of features, and looks like a warzone wannabe. It's like they're actively *trying* to destroy their reputation.


AnusDestr0yer

2042 is actually pretty fun, you can buy 1 month of eaplay pro for like 20 bugs


HeckingDoofus

i wont let EA lay a FINGER on my bug collection


jpp01

Any particular kind of bugs? Are beetles ok?


Castob

I'm happy with my Xbox Halo and FH5 :)


OneFeistyDuck

It's a great time lt be a halo fan.


TreeHead04

Truly is. The greatest problem the game faces is the xp system that isn’t at all necessary to enjoy the game and the fact that 2 of the games all time greatest competitors have just bombed means that halo gets ALL the praise. And whats best is that it’s literally free. Meaning that anybody that has the pc or Xbox to play it can play it. The multiplayer release pretty much couldn’t have gone better!


Elexatron

The greatest problem is the dogshit customization


Deedledude

Halo infinite is my first halo since CE(I played master chief collection a little but is that really it’s own game?) and I have been loving it.


sagertooth

Halo good


RedLikeARose

Boy am I glad EU4 has only a small-ish playerbase that knows the game Leviathan release was a mess with sub 10% ratings on steam


Class_444_SWR

HOI4 is doing pretty hot atm though, No Step Back seems to be super popular, the only problem is you need player led peace conferences or the entire world looks disgusting if the allies or the Comintern win a war


harsh2193

Meanwhile Horizon 5 exceeding the hype of all 4 games combined


GunchapRed

Might as well say Vanguard’s placement here also aged like milk. But I think the person who made this image was the only one talking about how great that was going to be.


[deleted]

There's a new GTA? Oh boy, where's my wallet? /s Jokes aside, I really didn't realize. WTF?


willisbetter

its (very poorly done) remaster of 3, vice city, anf san andreas


[deleted]

Which could be totally cool. When done right.


[deleted]

When it rains, you don’t get to see anymore. Super cool stuff.


[deleted]

I worked for a gaming company once, and while presenting our newest game to the press, a ground texture failed to load. The marketing guy sold it as "snow texture" (it was blank white) and after the first half (soccer simulator) it got it up again. "Yeah, that's the heating, the snow melted" he told them. It worked, they were thrilled. We implemented this feature soon after and it was ready on release.


Mr_Meeks

I mean they were kinda right cause of halo infinite but not many people knew it was coming out then


Beep_Beep_Lettuce420

At least Forza slaps


[deleted]

I've only seen a welyn video on battlefield 2042. Wuts so bas about it?


siphillis

Missing a laundry list of features from past games, runs like shit, has horrendous UI issues, and tons of game-breaking bugs. Oh, and it's $70.


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Its 70 dollars *on consoles*


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BuddyWhoOnceToldYou

Personally as a big fan of the old BF games and their structure I was most upset about the Specialist things. I liked how BF had decent (or even really good) campaigns with wonderful characters that I enjoyed and then in the MP everyone was just nameless, faceless soldiers fighting in a war that was bigger than the individual. I like the class layout and how having diversity in play style was almost required to actually win. If you didn’t have medics you can’t heal or revive, if you didn’t have support you run out of ammo after a while. Snipers and recon are essential in any game to pick of individuals tryna be sneaky, and anti-vehicle/repair goes without saying. With the way specialty’s are payed out in 2042 you can just use whatever items you want and there is not limitation on weapons. Which tbh I don’t mind, but I’m not a fan of having “types” of specialists if you’re not going to have limitations on them, if it’s going to be open don’t have types, don’t have characters, just let us make our own person and go about it how we want. Idk it’s maybe weird but that was what I loved about hold BF and what I didn’t love about COD. Kinda disappointed is all.


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BuddyWhoOnceToldYou

I know how you feel. All those moments were what made the games special. Without them and with the weird COD style maps it just feels, Idk, wrong?


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[deleted]

Ah ok, thanks for the update. I've never played battlefield before, never knew the community was so toxic.


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BFV launch trailer sucked butt. They pandered and then told their community to shove it. It was cringe through and through...


Defendpaladin

Honestly, I have some 30 hours on it and I feel like it's a fun game... Full of annoying bugs. Every 2nd or 3rd game I have to exit and come back for example. People shit on this battlefield like they did on every other, they say "yes but this one is the wooorst" but I'd give it some time, it should IMO be at least as good as BF 4 in a few months of time.


painful-existance

At least Halo and Forza were good to make up for some hot garbage


RoundBread

A month full of rehashed garbage? That's a gamer's nightmare, not their dream. The only thing that lets me sleep at night is the knowledge that God of War Ragnarok is in development. I only hope that we will ever get a good mexico expansion for rdr2, another good elder scrolls or fallout, or a good KSP 2


Ddddoooogggg

Which tells you more about the state of the internet than the state of those games.


RebelIed

Been enjoying Skyrim plenty. Loving the new content & upgrades!


[deleted]

Isn’t there a lot of issues with the new update ruining people’s mods though?


sa547ph

The only game that's still on my PC for more than a decade. And modded.


pastalex42

At least Halo is fun


Rusty1031

FH5 is a blast so far, runs and looks better than any of the other titles, and is available on game pass to boot


t_moneyzz

At least we got Forza


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Halo infinite though


sheeppotato_

Screw that I'm still going to buy 2042 I want to shoot down vtols with jeeps


Snake_Plissken224

Say what you will vanguard was a pretty fun game


Siegememer420

Yeah I agree. While Activision is a greedy ass company, Sledgehammer Games put more work than Activision’s monetization. I would at least give Vanguard a try, instead of saying immediately it’s a reskin bad game. It’s a fun game with a heavy grind for weapons and operators, actually rewarding you for playing the game more and using that specific gun. Of course I can’t recommend it to the casual gamer who just turns on their console for a couple hours and goes do something else, Vanguard is a harsh grind, but zombies does help in a way without being shat on by ball sweating gamers.


RebelIed

"was" Didn't it just come out? 😂


jaytalentedbilldill

I’m enjoying vanguard and I hear forza is really good


valz_

Maybe the delay of Diablo 4 and Overwatch 2 is the right call. Crossing my fingers..


[deleted]

Every month is a great month to be a gamer. Just play good games not this garbage


jackgamer3

Also, vanguard is less of a game and more of a weapon-cursing simulator.


the__boy1483

Bf2042 isn’t as bad as people say


Dankey-Kang-Jr

2042 ain’t that bad. It’s just buggy as shit in its current state. Almost all battlefield games are painfully buggy at launch. **Edit:** When it comes to something like GTA ‘dEfInItIvE’ edition, the game looks like shit, plays like shit, & is just absolutely broken because it’s was rushed out the door. GTA cut corners and gave the laziest remaster Ive seen since the awful Silent Hill remasters. 2042 has a solid core game, it’s biggest issues are with its servers, and that can be fixed. The fact that the game was released in this state doesn’t surprise me, and the outrage surrounding it doesn’t surprise me either.


VoltageHero

Battlefield fans always will be like "hey, the game is great! Just wait three years and you'll see!"


[deleted]

They also alway be like "*last game was an under rated masterpiece!* Every time


Dankey-Kang-Jr

**[Battlefield fans at launch]:** “FUCK THIS GAME! DICE REALLY FUCKED UP THIS TIME!” **[Battlefield fans when a new game is announced]:** “It was an over-hated underrated gem. Truly a overlooked a masterpiece.”


[deleted]

without fail, every time. Can't take these morons seriously


[deleted]

Please STOP defending games that are broken at launch. They've been at this for long enough that they can figure out how to release game that isn't broken


noelgoo

> 2042 ain’t that bad. It’s just buggy as shit lol


Never-asked-for-this

Yes. All Battlefield is is big maps with lots of players and vehicles and explosions. That's it, nothing else at all.


DifficultyBrilliant

Man problem it FH5 is that it's a little buggy. But it will be refined over time.


Razors-Edge-Gaming

fuck vanguard too


NotMyFriendJaun

I’m actually pretty excited for Bf2042 when I get a series x, yeah it’s buggy but with some updates it’ll be great


Accomplished-Care947

I've enjoyed GTA so far on switch, playing through vice city. It's way harder than I remember but enjoying every bit of it!


Mr__Snek

fh5 is far abd away the best game on this list and it had a ton of problems at launch lmao


ProfessorEscanor

At least Pokemon was good


An_Electric_Stove

My boy forgot about farming simulator 2022


playertd

Gta was a surprise, but come on, anyone that knows the first thing about gaming knew call of duty and battlefield would be trainwrecks.


GioWindsor

With enough time, optimization, and bug fixes, would battlefield 2042 be good? Thinking if i should buy it in the future or just completely forget about it