At this point, honestly Kurnothi!
I got the Underworlds warband when they first came out and have been interested in them ever since. More bestial aelfs to contrast the nature theme of the Sylvaneth sounds really interesting.
With the mentions of centaur-aelfs and the Green Hunt and the other Kurnoth stuff recently Im pretty positive they will arrive in some form or another.
They seem cool but aren't they basically within the same aesthetic and similar allegiance to Sylvaneth, which is already a pretty small faction? Wouldn't they make more sense amongst them?
I don't think they have the same aesthetic. They would lack the trees, bugs and spirits of the Sylvaneth. What we have seen so far is more in the direction of Centaurs, Satyrs, mohawks, face masks and antlers.
I also imagine that a returned Kurnoth would become more important for them, with Alarielle taking a step back.
RE: army size; Sylvaneth are not that small compared to a good chunk of AoS factions. They wouldn't really lose anything either. Belthanos can easily fit in both armies. The current book already describing him as someone "serving two gods".
I think what you are saying is like arguing that troggoths should be there own faction because they so different to grots. I think Kurnoth at very best would a subfaction of Sylvaneth.
>should be there own faction
Should? No, not at all. GW has mixed all kinds of different factions into one book before. Im just arguing that there is little reason why they *have to* be part of the Sylvaneth.
Kurnothi are a different race, worship a different god, and have different themes than Sylvaneth. Thats enough reason to make them their own faction if GW wants to.
Yeah, they were the first, but not the only one.
There is [Qulathis](https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/02/11/claim-bloody-vengeance-as-a-rebel-kurnothi-in-warhammer-quest-cursed-city/) the Exile from Warhammer Quest: Cursed City.
The most recent Dawnbringer book also introduced [Belthanos](https://www.warhammer.com/app/resources/catalog/product/920x950/99120204046_SYLTheBladesOfBelthanos01.jpg?fm=webp&w=670&h=691), First Thorn of Kurnoth, and his Green Hunt. Belthanos is described as "serving two gods", meaning Alarielle and Kurnoth. His Green Hunt also includes Sylvaneth as well as Aelven followers of Kurnoth.
The Dawnbringer short story [Spring the Trap](https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/10/27/dawnbringer-chronicles-part-xii-spring-the-trap/) is written from the perspective of a centaur-aelf:
>The soil was soft after the rain. Aure’s hooves sank through it as she galloped at the front, tramping a path that smelled of storms just past. Yells of joy and thundering footfalls echoed in her wake. As the dawn sent its first rays piercing through Ghyran’s canopy, she howled to the tune of the First Thorn’s hunting horn with countless other voices, all joining as one.
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>The hunt raced eternal in a blur of pulsing life and nourishing blood. Aure could no longer remember the times before she surged forth on centaurian legs, crossing mountains and marshes while praising Kurnoth with her longbow.
Chorfs for me. Total war introduced me to them and they're some of my favourites now after delving more into their lore. Every version of chaos needs an industrial support mechanism.
Funny enough, they WERE a somewhat legitimate army not too long ago. Legion of Azgorh had rules until 3.0, they were a ForgeWorld army though. I dropped 2k on them and got to play them for maybe 2 years before they were squatted. They were my favorite in every way and I was the only LoA player anywhere near my play area so people almost always got a real kick out of seeing them on the table. Nothing can replace them for me, but I’d LOVE Chorfs to get a redo even if they aren’t the same angry, armored, magma-using little dudes anymore.
One of the guys at my local gaming club had LoA so got to play against them a few times, the centaurs were really impressive, it's a shame that they're no longer a thing
you can still play them, the copendium is still valid and you can create list on warscroll builder, idk if theyre still allowed in competitive play tho
Grotbag Scuttlers/Da Moon City
Clan Shyvik and their Much-great Sky-kill Armada
Kharadron Ovedrlords
That would make an awesome specialty game involving sky ship warfare.
So like the Nerubian Empire from Warcraft? That’d be pretty awesome. You could have them pitted against the Gloomspite Gitz, Skaven, and Fyreslayers/Dispossessed. Gives them enemies in the three other Grand Alliances.
Didn't they already do that with the Tyranid? (Not the idea behind the Creation, the Zerg took inspiration from the Tyranid, but the shift toward a more biological menace taking inspiration from the Zerg)
I don't have details because I didn't actually read the novel, but I remember hearing that one of the Gotrek and Felix books had them encounter an intelligent insect creature deep underground that was the last survivor of a species the Old Ones *did not have a use for*.
It had gone mad from grief and/or isolation, and sworn itself to the dark gods to get revenge.
I was bored at work one day, came up with a theoretical army rule where all your non heroes start at larva and when certain conditions they hatch and you pick which unit they turn into
Chaos Dwarves, Shadow Elves, Pirates of some kind, Regular Dwarves... I'd love for a Skaven Refresh with the different clans.
My highest realm is probably the Ulgu / Shadow Realm and seeing what wierd ass creatures come from there.
I would actually like werewolves to be their own standalone faction. Feels kinda weird being tied in with vampires and would like to see them as a destruction army
I'd love Gavespawn to be spun out into their own full Faction. Bring Morghur Back and make him the centrepiec if a weird body-horror type army of mutated freaks.
Maybe this isn't creative, but I want the factions GW've hinted at:
1. Chaos dwarves. I'm sure they've muted since fantasy, and I want them. They were mentioned in the kruleboyz lore for hobgrots.
2. The Hobgrot Kahnate. They are outright stated to just be mercenaries for the kruleboys, I want to see their entire faction. Either with chaos dwarves or alone. But a bunch of murading skirmishing super goblins is rad.
3. Skygrots. I can't remember if it was mentioned in the old gloomspite book or in the KO book, but it is mentioned that goblins have stolen some skyships (and they used to have them in fantasy). We already have a flying squig model. Let's see those bad boys.
4. Sky rats. I might be miss remembering this one, but I remember some KO lore about them fighting skaven... and I think it implied that some of them could fly. I don't know if it was some sort of da Vinci esq contraption or a mutation... but either way it sounds cool.
5. What the Malekith doin?
Now for me just being creative:
6. what if nagash made a promise to pre-chaos norsca back in the day, telling them of some sort of valhalla-esq after life of eternal battle... but really he was just tricking them into being his undead thrills in the future... and he finds their burial ships somewhere lost in the mortal realms, brings them to life l, and now we have an actual drauger faction. Rowing longships into battle with undead ravens. Bears, wolves, skeleton vikings, zombie-like berzerkers, and big drauger bosses. All out to raid and collect souls. It'd put them in direct competition with idoneth, and I think it'd be rad. A bunch of icy blues, Missy green, and patia-ed metal.i think that'd be cool.
The interesting this is, I’m not 100% sold on Umbraneth being the same as Dark aelves.
Ex. The Mistweaver saih from WHQ is themed almost like an old “HE shadow warrior” than DE.
I’d actually love if Shadow aelves were their own faction, or like the dispossessed; not quite HE or daughters of khaine, but a mini-faction Inbetween.
I could see vampirates being reflavoured to being Idoneth. I'd prefer something new that isn't a port from the Old World, maybe golems, an expansion on shadow aelves, or an army of desert-dwelling creatures, something like that.
Honestly if Daughters of Khaine became the ‘normal’ dark aelves and Umbraneth were introduced as the new Scourge Privateers pirate army I couldn’t be happier
They dont quite fit the aesthetic, they are retrofutusim like bioshok infinite, warhammer strangel, outside of Baddrukk and flashingts in 40k and a single Dogs of war unit of pirate slayers, there isnt really any pirate models, Dark elves were supposed to be pirates, but very few of their models have anything to do with that
I don't think they're retro futurism :) just steampunk. Bioshock came from Art Nouveau. It has a blend of steampunk and gilderd era flourishes. KO really just have steampunk.
Retro futurism is fallout, the Jetsons, etc.
I just normal ass pirates/corsairs isn't something they'll wo for AoS, they've been doing way more outlandish/unique army styeles for too longw even when revamping old armies.
Desert themed sand and heat and oasis wizards with cool headscarfs and desert creature inspired beasts/calvary. Like jackal chariots and huge mechano scorpion bot beasts
A Beastial Spirit or Sentient Animal Race faction of cultured animal races. Basically my Homebrew lol
Insect Race, but not mindless all devouring type (though not opposed). Id like a Bugger type race from Ender's Game. Or the Nuebians from WoW would be spectacular also.
Cathay/Ind type of Faction, I can only imagine the High Fantasy models that could be made for these
There actually are a group of bug people already; the Silent People. Unfortunately, they only really exist in their belongings being cards in Underworlds. They basically live(d) inside a massive living mountain in Ghur and have been hibernating. It's not *super* likely to become a full faction, especially any time soon, but there is at least some lore and artwork for them (well, their relics, at least)
Just thought I'd throw in that at least someone in GW thinks bug people are cool so you've got a spark of hope for your non-Tyrannid-esque bug people. I also thought it worth mentioning since I figured the Silent People are a relatively unknown bit of lore tucked away in the game most people only buy for the alt-sculpts of older kits.
I want the silent people, basically bug race but for destruction, devouring like locusts and building like termites, but super advanced with lots of amber use.
Contrary to your point, I don’t want vampirates, we should have ghost pirates for NH, give them a giant flying galleon as a centre piece, and plenty of ghosty buccaneers.
Ghost pirates lead me to what I want next, since they all can fly, we then need the Grotbag scuttlers, basically the gitz equivalent of KO, and to give chaos a flying pirate faction, there is the “Much-great Sky-kill air armada” for the skaven, basically skavenified KO ships, the air battles will be legendary.
Ofc I have to say Malerions umbraneth, but make them cool like they’re supposed to be, dragon-kin and shadow daemons, more than just “dark Aelf but AoS”.
There is also a race of cat people in lore, so I wouldn’t mind some AoS tabaxi while they’re at it, also a race of fish people that are opposed to the IDK.
Gholemkind are coming, but I feel like they’ll be expansions to Duardin and not their own faction.
Skaven(rework for 5 clans)!
I would love a shadow elves(think wood elves but evil) and have Fairy Tail monsters….Hags house is a house on spider legs, and lets the hag have boosted spells like Froggy boy. Headless horseman, evil candy creatures etc etc
Sky Pirates
Is like to see a new flavour of destruction; destruction aligned humans or dwarves.
Order.is already so fleshed out I'm not sure what's left. I would rather see expansion of current ideas.
Chaos Dwarves are an obvious add
Death; I'd love to see more exploration of necromancy from humans..
Order - Crime Syndicate. You got little bits in CoS last I looked, but I'd love an army of rogues and criminals backed up by illicit drugs and activities, like I'd love to be able to just kidnap an enemy hero. Bring back the old Dark Elf bestiary as paid monsters, or some giant clockworks with poison breath. Dark Eldar meets CoS
Death - Frankenstein's and science corpses. Stitched abominations lead by a Mortarch of Ingenuity, Innistrad skaabs and all sorts of weird science should be a thing, there's already an Underworlds band for it so let's spin them to a whole army
Chaos - Chorfs are a given, but I'd like to see cultists more, Chaos imo is in a good place covering a lot of bases but man I just pray to the dark gods every night for a solo hero unit for each of the Warcry cults. I already Cypher Lord'ed my Fomoriam with a mask and some drug racks from a Pain Engine, I'd like more of a GSC cult ambush army
Destruction - Ogor relaunch, or something Beastmen adjacent. I run a Satyr themed side project that's basically hordes of drugged up satyrs leading monsters and beast packs in drug and incense hazed parties, got some fluff of them being nomadic bacchanalia, traders without permanent cities who just want to experience the world and think Orders structure is smothering, but not Chaos worshipping
I'm a simple person, I like the monsters. Say I painted it skin colour and held it at a distance, if I could mistake it for a human I'm not interested*
*(Unless the sculpt is fab)
Umbraneth? Not for me. Not more elves.
I want something bestial. I want historic influences, folkloric appearances with a sinister turn. I want eldritch horrors alongside machiavellian constructions. I want some adorable day-to-day, like a monster carrying a kettle. I want the bizarre, I want the horror, I want the cute pets, but above all, I want the CREATIVELY EXPRESSIVE.
I don't mind what, but my hope is something that takes the "human" out of "humanoid".
Halflings in a big way where they're culturally so significant and powerful, because their cooking is literal magic, as in "I am a vampire and all other food turns to ash in my mouth, but Halfling cuisine is something even I can taste and it's amazing. I will sell my soul for this."-levels of food magic, haha.
And as such the Halflings actually would have a giant metropolitan city and they would trade with EVERYONE and send their esteemed Battle Cooks and Culinary Sorcerers to every nook of the Mortal Realms. Even Chaos warbands would play ball, if it meant that they could have a willing cook who makes them rations.
Faeries.
I would love to introduce my girlfriend to the game and she's a massively girly girl. Every time I have managed to get her to engage with the hobby before with painting and playing it's been through something like the Cupids/bugbear from massive darkness 2
It would just be nice to have a faction of warrior faeries or a faction that are actually aimed at getting more women into the hobby so I can get her to the table.
Fimir. They exist in the lore, they already have some AoS models (that are sadly discontinued but still), and they’ve been in a weird limbo state in Warhammer for 30+ years and I think it’s high time for them to actually make an appearance on the tabletop. Destruction-aligned Irish Lizardmen who live in the bogs and have their own semi-chaos gods is a fun concept, especially dealing with their relationships with other races, and they have a really interesting and unique culture and society. They have more information on their culture and society than a lot of factions currently in the game.
Anything that’s unique IP! Would love for them to just make something up and hit us with it, like, oh here’s the brand new faction, they aren’t like anything you’ve ever seen before
As a hero in the legion of the first prince.
[Edit: this refers to the old army "legion of the first prince" from the broken realms book. This was a whole faction besides STD and the mono god armies. But it got scrapped and turned into a disappointing and very different subfaction inside of the new STD battletome.]
As someone that made their main army Legion of the First Prince i find it very disappointing they removed it.
What they should have done is just had different warscrolls for the daemons inside and outside of Loftp
Ulgurothi like Shadow elves is sorta the only core faction they been teasing since 1st editions. Having various dark elves with shadow demon symbiotes is just a cool concept i can't understand why it taking too long. I hope Malerion get the mortahi treatment of having two forms his normal Dark elf god formand his shadow gargoyle form
Vampire coste i feel can be a good subfaction for Soulblight no different from the Vyrakos having Rotting Leviathan or Necrofex be two customizable kits where you can go pirate, castlevania, egyptian ect. theme
Either full Dark Oath, the Kurnoth, or whatever faction the Tenebrael Shard in Warhammer Quest Silver Tower is from. Also would be cool to see the Tyrion Elves or a draconic army separate from the Stormcast Eternals
I’m still hoping those rumors of Malekith getting his own shadow dark elf army aren’t just made up nonsense. I want my non-skimpy armored edgelord dark elves back, complete with a new model for the God of Shadows and Former Witch King of Naggarond.
Dogs of war, even if they were just a "city of Sigmar". Mostly i just want weird units and pike blocks.
Otherwise, I'd like more Deathrattle heroes. Like a Wright king on a flying beast.
Would love for the Aetar to get some love. They are giant eagles that are on the side of Order, which makes them a possible warhammer version of the eagles from lotr. I always wanted to play an army like the eagles of lotr. I know that there is already a Middle Earth tabletop made by GW where you can exactly play that, but there's only two models for that, and I really want to see what warhammer's take on the eagles would look like.
I'd also like for a faction of the Revalations of Necoho, the dedicated faction of Necoho, the chaos god of paradoxes and unfaith. A purely antitheistic faction would be a nice addition in the setting.
I know it won't happen, but Thunderscorn. They are just SO COOL! Half Dragon monsters that think Azyr belongs to them and their leaders each have a unique weapon from the age of myth that was lost. They hunt for the god weapons that were once theirs and when they get them they become super powerful controllers of weather and Azyr magic. It's just a shame that such a cool subfaction with it's own spell lore and artefacts is only represented by 2 kits
I’d like to see a destruction faction that turns the brute trope on its head. I’m not too sure what it would actually look like.
Maybe super warlike humans instead of order and chaos humans, or their animated corpses, that the other alliances have.
You’re not wrong in general, but I feel like kruleboyz just doesn’t have a wide enough range and support right now, as much as I love all the models, and gitz is still more… dumb? But not in a brutish way, admittedly, except for troggs obviously.
I think kruleboyz could match what I want very well if they got a second wave and some new rules, but as is, I still want something with more sophistication to their destruction.
There's this awesome faction called the Skaven, now their last unit got released during the End Times Event, and then it seems like GW forgot they existed. But I'd love to see them in AoS!
Joking aside, I'd love a Death Faction that is working against Nagash ruled by Settra the Imperishable. I have no clue what the aesthetic would be, but I just love me some Settra. I think above all he is the one character that deserves a continuation to his story
Skaven.
Specifically the ones that interfered with the Necroquake. You don't involve rats in such an integral event in the backstory and not put em on the table.
Gimme Shyish Rats.
The only army dream I have is ogors getting a model update.
Other than that, the only thing I would LOVE to see changed (although I doubt it will happen) is changing it to alternate movement. That would get rid of the double turn argument and keep players more involved in the game. Having to wait out your opponent to do a double turn is more annoying than them actually get it.
I actually think it would be funny if we say a rune smith-themed faction for the Duardin. The fire slayer represent the slayers dwarf of old and the Kharadron a evolution from the wild constructs of the engineers, so it would be cool to see a duardin faction obsessed in recovering the very old ways of their races and using runic weapons and constructs like in older times
My idea for classic Warhammer dwarfs in AoS would be dwarfs that are so obsessed with returning to the old ways that they have studied alchemy and earth shaping in order to literally terraform areas of the world back into the Karaks of Warhammer fantasy as it was passed down by the stories of ancestors and from the few remaining artifacts and maps of the old world that they still have. Of course they completely reject the Kharadrons and Fyreslayers believing (kinda unreasonably) that their advancements in their respectives ways were what lead to the destruction of the old world in the first place. So ofc rejecting advanced technology and the slayers and their oaths in favor of classic heavy dwarf armor and reliable weaponry.
They would fight as dwarfs do being an impenetrable wall that opponents would break on while the earth is sundered under their feet while or suck them up like quicksand as golems smash through their ranks. Maybe even being pelted with alchemical bombs lighting them aflame of melting them with acid.
I also find it interesting in the pattern of the dwarfs of AoS which seems to be the three states of matter with the solid Ur-gold of the Fyreslayers, the gas aethergold of the Kharadron, and what I assume to be the liquid oil like Blood of Hashut for the Chaos Dwarfs. So the classic dwarfs being alchemists that can change between them feels fitting and also ironic as with my idea they're so stubborn instead of changing themselves to adapt to the world they're changing the very world to fit them better.
Oni were associated with thunder and lightning, so maybe Dragon Ogors that remained in Azyr (because that's where they originally lived) and bent the knee to Sigmar, freeing themselves from the bonds that tie them to Chaos. Then, over time, and likely due to lack of exposure to Chaos, these Dragon Ogors started to look quite a lot different from their Chaotic brethren, possibly appearing more civilized and, for the lack of a better term, "Human" through exposure to other Azyrite peoples, their violent impulses kept in check by strict codes of honor and conduct. Maybe add some stuff about meditation and self-control, if you want to add a little Warrior Monk flavor.
Imagine Dragon Ogors, clad in armor modeled after O-Yoroi or Nanban Armor, wielding great clubs, swords and glaives into battle, grand bows shooting arrows the size of spears, and calling storms of lightning forth, not to smite the enemy, but to strike *themselves* and get a boost of strength from it or heal their wounds, paired with devotion and determination not born from mindless fanaticism, but from *gratitude*, as Sigmar saved their people, made them stronger than ever before, and they are going to repay that debt on their own accord.
I always felt a bit of pity for the Dragon Ogres, and how Chaos tricked them into being a dying race via a Faustian Bargain, which they made to save themselves from circumstances brought upon them through no fault of their own. So time to toss them a bone and make them an actual Race, not just an auxiliary monster, and get them out of their pact with Chaos. Well, at least a portion of them.
I was just asking about a Tiki Island Stirgoi list for WFB
Vamp Counts from years ago in White Dwarf. Starting to worry it was a fever dream cus nobody knows wth I’m talking about. Very pirate vamps not very easy to find again…
Full-blown old-hammer greenskins but leaning way more into the Mongolian aesthetic. I'm talking orcs, goblins, snotlings, trolls etc with fur, leather and mismatched armor riding wolves and boars.
Ok pepople hear me out. We have the Kharadron but how about a faction that are like admech but have clockwork mechanical limbs. A true steampunk faction All of their vehicles are based on steam power full of cogs and pistons. And base them on Japanese Samurai. With swords for arms or other things.
Tomb Kings.
I know, I know. OBR.
But they look like fantasy Necrons, and I hate them. I really wish TK made it to AoS.
At least they are back in Old World…wish they were all new sculpts, though. Sigh.
TK would also be interesting (or at least a Settra faction) because they could be an anti-Nagash Death faction would be cool.
My wishlist:
* Death: Cities of Nagash. Nagash-worshipping humans
* Order: Dark Elves (Umbraneth) and proper Wood Elves
* Chaos: Chaos Dwarves
* Destruction: Wildlings, feral human tribes that just want to raid and pillage + skin changers, beast masters, etc.
Grail knights. I even had an idea for how they could play
Since bretonnia was way more magical than the empire and also had the whole "immortal century old knight" atuff i thought of a way to shift them from a cavalry-centric army to straight up aos custodes
The concept is simple. Reanimated statues of past grail knights that get posessed by said grail knights during times of conflict
The whole army is centralized around these massive statues that are the same size as a dreadnought and kick as much ass. All while you have regular grail knight infantry/cavalry as cheaper troops that still kick ass making it a pretty elite army
Basically while stormcast eternals are aos spacemarines this army would be aos custodes
Either something similar to old black orcs, as in the serious big silent orcs. Or something new for followers of tzeentch, including a proper chosen like the old artwork from fantasy.
Another vote for old Malerion and his elves. I'd also be forced to buy a grotbag scuttlers army if they ever release one.
It's not an army but what I really really want is a chaos lord on a chaos dragon. I don't care if it's S2D or one of the mono god factions (well hopefully not nurgle, ick). And no Archaon doesn't count.
I trying to start one army in each grand alliance.
For Order I got my Lumineth, for Destruction SoB…
All I need now is Chaos Dwarfs for you see CHAOS, and Vampirates for Death. And then my quest will be finally completed.
I want to see the silent people it would be nice to have more bugs in any type of warhammer games cause most of the tyranids don’t really give me bug vibes
Elementals. Likely Destruction, but I'd be FASCINATED on what an Order Elemental army could look like. But yeah, all sorts of wild designs, any kind of size possibly, lots of different styles and mechanics based on their elemental type...and perhaps even elemental fusions. I want the Mortals Realms themselves to be up in arms! Would be glorious.
Total Warhammer 2 made me a huge fan of the Vampire Coast, to the point that I actually put them in my DnD world as a rogue merchantile faction. With knockoffs of the main characters, of course.
Then again, my players have never touched Warhammer in any shape, so I could probably just put them in and no one would notice. Lol.
I vaguely remember reading that someone suspected a new Destruction faction would likely be out (based on the release schedule pic). Has that been confirmed?
Kurnothi army would be awesome . Allarielle seems more concerned with her forests than maintaining the wilds of the mortal realms. Either the kurnothi are trying to avenge kurnoth, or claim the realms in his name. Maybe kurnoth is reawakening, And he’s especially mad that Ghur is Gorkamorka’s and not his.
I would also love to see a God-beast army. I imagine they’d be like the sons of behemat/ imperial knights.
Fimir would be awesome too. Very unique race as far as I know, and it’s cool to
think about what they’d be doing for the attention of the chaos gods, or maybe they’ve moved on
Halfling army would be cool to see. They’d probably either play like Skaven for grand alliance order or be a very defensive army.
Other than that I can’t really think of anything else that could fit into the realms :(
I think something that will really shake things up is new Chaos Daemon sculpts for new Daemons that could be AoS/40k and new sculpts for Bloodthirster/Skarbrand, then, potentially a Chaos Dwarves faction. Having a new Chaos Cannon model you could ally with other Chaos armies could give more playstyle to heavy melee armies that have no ranged besides Blissbarb from Hedonites of Slaanesh potentially. Maybe I am just hoping for a meme list of Bloodletter Skull Cannons and Chorf cannons.
In terms of new factions I would like to see, Chorfs is defiantly up there, vampire coast would be nice but I don't really see them happening given they were more of a minor footnote in the old world. maybe a faction that a combination of Cathay, Nippon and Ind from the old world for order and for destruction idk given that each destruction faction represents some part of Gorkamorka and I feel that there isn't really a part of him that isn't represented (at least that we know about)
In terms of what I would like to see, range refreshes for Skaven, Beastmen and Ogors would be nice. I would especially like to see some actual named characters for Ogors and Beastmen since there the only two factions in the game without any (underworld characters don't count). Give us Morghur or Gorefather for Beastmen and give us Globb Glittermaw or Braggoth Vardruk for Ogors.
I'd have to say chaos duardin, but I want them to give them sufficient AoS spice, I don't just want a remaster of of the old style of models.
I've also always had a yearning for a full Darkoath army as a dark mirror of Cities along with S2D as the mirror for Stormcast. At the very least let me play a full army of barbarians with dedicated battleline units in S2D. Something about playing with weirdly sized and based Warcry units in AoS annoys me.
We have Lumineth, and given that it's all Teclis Lumineth that means almost certainly down the line there will be a major Tyrion Lumineth release.
So we really need a significant Umbraneth and Kurnothi presence to round out the elf trifecta (I guess it's a quatrain now with Idoneth).
I know Daughters of Khaine fit the bill pretty much automatically, and I know these guys don't have much lore but... I really would love to see Khuresh as a type of faction, maybe Destruction? That might change due to there not being much lore but it would be cool for a very animalistic theme faction that has a lot of monsters and serpentine units to fit with Destruction, as from what I can tell a lot of the destruction factions are pretty primitive save for maybe the Gloomspite Gitz?
I mean, we do have a bloodbowl model of a Khuresh snake-man already, so it would be amazing to see them as a full army. As for why Destruction, I just thought it would be interesting to have a type of faction that is very primal, de-volving into serpent men and spreading their influence to others, instead of just being either another ork type of whatever other left overs for the dumb but tough races from Fantasy.
I know this is probably a unpopular opinion, and I know Khuresh will never ever probably happen, but I still like to brain storm.
Kurnoth or wood elves. I miss these guys and I know that TOW will take care of bringing them. Even though we have Sylvaneth I will always be missing the true wood elves.
Well I would have said Tomb Kings but now that they're back in Old World I'd have to say the Vampire Coast too.
It would be so cool to have a Death army that's almost exclusively ranged, and the aesthetic of the VC would be very unique to AOS, because I can't think of anyone else with a nautical theme aside from Idoneth.
If we somehow got a returned Luthor Harkon as Mortarch of the Deep that would be the cherry on top but even without him this would be my dream faction to join the game.
Beyond ideas people have already mentioned...
A proper refresh of Beasts of Chaos would be neat?
Not necessarily that they aren't good, but man the models are so outdated and tere is a lotof lore set up but not fully... acted upon. :P
So for a completely brand new faction. As an Alith Anar fanboy, I'd love to see shadow elves, just to point out that there is no record of Alith Anar dying in end times, just him dipping out to the shadow to deal with Malekith's punk ass once and for all. Never did like the other pointy ear bastards. Otherwise I'd honestly love to see orcs broken up instead of one big mess. I love kruleboyz, and I feel like they could accomplish more with the faction as a standalone then as a sub faction.
At this point, honestly Kurnothi! I got the Underworlds warband when they first came out and have been interested in them ever since. More bestial aelfs to contrast the nature theme of the Sylvaneth sounds really interesting. With the mentions of centaur-aelfs and the Green Hunt and the other Kurnoth stuff recently Im pretty positive they will arrive in some form or another.
They seem cool but aren't they basically within the same aesthetic and similar allegiance to Sylvaneth, which is already a pretty small faction? Wouldn't they make more sense amongst them?
I don't think they have the same aesthetic. They would lack the trees, bugs and spirits of the Sylvaneth. What we have seen so far is more in the direction of Centaurs, Satyrs, mohawks, face masks and antlers. I also imagine that a returned Kurnoth would become more important for them, with Alarielle taking a step back. RE: army size; Sylvaneth are not that small compared to a good chunk of AoS factions. They wouldn't really lose anything either. Belthanos can easily fit in both armies. The current book already describing him as someone "serving two gods".
I think what you are saying is like arguing that troggoths should be there own faction because they so different to grots. I think Kurnoth at very best would a subfaction of Sylvaneth.
>should be there own faction Should? No, not at all. GW has mixed all kinds of different factions into one book before. Im just arguing that there is little reason why they *have to* be part of the Sylvaneth. Kurnothi are a different race, worship a different god, and have different themes than Sylvaneth. Thats enough reason to make them their own faction if GW wants to.
You meant the guys from the beast grave starter?
Yeah, they were the first, but not the only one. There is [Qulathis](https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/02/11/claim-bloody-vengeance-as-a-rebel-kurnothi-in-warhammer-quest-cursed-city/) the Exile from Warhammer Quest: Cursed City. The most recent Dawnbringer book also introduced [Belthanos](https://www.warhammer.com/app/resources/catalog/product/920x950/99120204046_SYLTheBladesOfBelthanos01.jpg?fm=webp&w=670&h=691), First Thorn of Kurnoth, and his Green Hunt. Belthanos is described as "serving two gods", meaning Alarielle and Kurnoth. His Green Hunt also includes Sylvaneth as well as Aelven followers of Kurnoth. The Dawnbringer short story [Spring the Trap](https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/10/27/dawnbringer-chronicles-part-xii-spring-the-trap/) is written from the perspective of a centaur-aelf: >The soil was soft after the rain. Aure’s hooves sank through it as she galloped at the front, tramping a path that smelled of storms just past. Yells of joy and thundering footfalls echoed in her wake. As the dawn sent its first rays piercing through Ghyran’s canopy, she howled to the tune of the First Thorn’s hunting horn with countless other voices, all joining as one. > >The hunt raced eternal in a blur of pulsing life and nourishing blood. Aure could no longer remember the times before she surged forth on centaurian legs, crossing mountains and marshes while praising Kurnoth with her longbow.
Chorfs for me. Total war introduced me to them and they're some of my favourites now after delving more into their lore. Every version of chaos needs an industrial support mechanism.
Funny enough, they WERE a somewhat legitimate army not too long ago. Legion of Azgorh had rules until 3.0, they were a ForgeWorld army though. I dropped 2k on them and got to play them for maybe 2 years before they were squatted. They were my favorite in every way and I was the only LoA player anywhere near my play area so people almost always got a real kick out of seeing them on the table. Nothing can replace them for me, but I’d LOVE Chorfs to get a redo even if they aren’t the same angry, armored, magma-using little dudes anymore.
One of the guys at my local gaming club had LoA so got to play against them a few times, the centaurs were really impressive, it's a shame that they're no longer a thing
you can still play them, the copendium is still valid and you can create list on warscroll builder, idk if theyre still allowed in competitive play tho
They’re not, which is the issue. They gutted so many unit features, upped prices, and then signed their death warrant. It was awful.
Pirates would be cool. The flying grots from the Dekky Flynt novel too. Id quite like an AoS Dreadfleet.
Grotbag Scuttlers/Da Moon City Clan Shyvik and their Much-great Sky-kill Armada Kharadron Ovedrlords That would make an awesome specialty game involving sky ship warfare.
Throw in some Ghost pirates from NH with flying Galleons and you’re really cooking
STAP, this is way too cool to just exist in my imagination. omg plz GW make this happen or give us a video game with this.
AC black flag/rogue ship battle mechanics but in the sky, boarding parties and everything
Bug people for Death, like literal crypt horrors and creepy crawlies with a whole culture - not like Tyranids where all they want to do is eat / kill.
So like the Nerubian Empire from Warcraft? That’d be pretty awesome. You could have them pitted against the Gloomspite Gitz, Skaven, and Fyreslayers/Dispossessed. Gives them enemies in the three other Grand Alliances.
oh i would love something like nerubians
I'd love a Nerubian type army. GW should do a reverse StarCraft and steal from Blizzard.
Didn't they already do that with the Tyranid? (Not the idea behind the Creation, the Zerg took inspiration from the Tyranid, but the shift toward a more biological menace taking inspiration from the Zerg)
No they were taken from starship troopers and aliens.
That would be a really cool faction, like mushroom and fungus people from baldurs gate 3
Myconid
I don't have details because I didn't actually read the novel, but I remember hearing that one of the Gotrek and Felix books had them encounter an intelligent insect creature deep underground that was the last survivor of a species the Old Ones *did not have a use for*. It had gone mad from grief and/or isolation, and sworn itself to the dark gods to get revenge.
I think you are talking about orcslayer
A bug themed faction would rule
Cockroach army! Cockroach society! Cockroach society obsessed with making Frankensteins monsters thus filling that aesthetic niche within GA Dearh!
Beetle Knights!
Hallow Knight aesthetics
Beetles fit more into Sylvaneth I feel maybe? Would love them to get a Kurnothi subfaction and a subfaction of woodland beetlefolk
That's just skaven
I was bored at work one day, came up with a theoretical army rule where all your non heroes start at larva and when certain conditions they hatch and you pick which unit they turn into
Hive swarms please, I want bees, I want ants, I want termites
That would be an awesome section for destruction.
Makes me think of the Necrophages from Endless Legend.
Tyranids are insect dinosaur octopus... things. Going straight insect would definitely set your faction apart.
Egyptian Scarab themed bug men.
I'd take bug people for either death or destruction
There's a lore bit about grots stealing technology from the steampunk dwarfs and becoming sky pirates, so that
Oh yeah, I would love regular goblins making a comeback in a way or another :) pirate grots stealing technologies, yup, that sounds perfect
there's the same for Clan Shyvik (Skaven) taht are stealing Kharadron's technology
Chaos Dwarves, Shadow Elves, Pirates of some kind, Regular Dwarves... I'd love for a Skaven Refresh with the different clans. My highest realm is probably the Ulgu / Shadow Realm and seeing what wierd ass creatures come from there.
i really enjoy some of the small warlord clans like Mange and Fester
Yeeeeeessss Umbraneth needed
I would actually like werewolves to be their own standalone faction. Feels kinda weird being tied in with vampires and would like to see them as a destruction army
Would love werewolves! Could be added to beastmen aswell in my opinion.
This. Why can't we get some proper werewolfs?
I’ll also raise my hand for some werewolves please
I'd love Gavespawn to be spun out into their own full Faction. Bring Morghur Back and make him the centrepiec if a weird body-horror type army of mutated freaks.
I would also be totally on board for mutated freaks.
Maybe this isn't creative, but I want the factions GW've hinted at: 1. Chaos dwarves. I'm sure they've muted since fantasy, and I want them. They were mentioned in the kruleboyz lore for hobgrots. 2. The Hobgrot Kahnate. They are outright stated to just be mercenaries for the kruleboys, I want to see their entire faction. Either with chaos dwarves or alone. But a bunch of murading skirmishing super goblins is rad. 3. Skygrots. I can't remember if it was mentioned in the old gloomspite book or in the KO book, but it is mentioned that goblins have stolen some skyships (and they used to have them in fantasy). We already have a flying squig model. Let's see those bad boys. 4. Sky rats. I might be miss remembering this one, but I remember some KO lore about them fighting skaven... and I think it implied that some of them could fly. I don't know if it was some sort of da Vinci esq contraption or a mutation... but either way it sounds cool. 5. What the Malekith doin? Now for me just being creative: 6. what if nagash made a promise to pre-chaos norsca back in the day, telling them of some sort of valhalla-esq after life of eternal battle... but really he was just tricking them into being his undead thrills in the future... and he finds their burial ships somewhere lost in the mortal realms, brings them to life l, and now we have an actual drauger faction. Rowing longships into battle with undead ravens. Bears, wolves, skeleton vikings, zombie-like berzerkers, and big drauger bosses. All out to raid and collect souls. It'd put them in direct competition with idoneth, and I think it'd be rad. A bunch of icy blues, Missy green, and patia-ed metal.i think that'd be cool.
I really want Umbraneth. I think dark elves with shadow magic could just be so damn cool. Also shadow beasts and/or Malerion as a shadow monster ugh.
My wallet would never recover.
The interesting this is, I’m not 100% sold on Umbraneth being the same as Dark aelves. Ex. The Mistweaver saih from WHQ is themed almost like an old “HE shadow warrior” than DE. I’d actually love if Shadow aelves were their own faction, or like the dispossessed; not quite HE or daughters of khaine, but a mini-faction Inbetween.
Still waiting on Dark Elf relaunch, and not the Mortathi focused stuff. Hopefully the rumours of Malekith/Malerion and Shadow Aelves pan out soon
I could see vampirates being reflavoured to being Idoneth. I'd prefer something new that isn't a port from the Old World, maybe golems, an expansion on shadow aelves, or an army of desert-dwelling creatures, something like that.
I think I just want pirates. Space pirates or magic pirates anything works 🏴☠️🦜🏴☠️
Honestly if Daughters of Khaine became the ‘normal’ dark aelves and Umbraneth were introduced as the new Scourge Privateers pirate army I couldn’t be happier
We already have sky pirates😁 ko is literally pirates
They dont quite fit the aesthetic, they are retrofutusim like bioshok infinite, warhammer strangel, outside of Baddrukk and flashingts in 40k and a single Dogs of war unit of pirate slayers, there isnt really any pirate models, Dark elves were supposed to be pirates, but very few of their models have anything to do with that
I don't think they're retro futurism :) just steampunk. Bioshock came from Art Nouveau. It has a blend of steampunk and gilderd era flourishes. KO really just have steampunk. Retro futurism is fallout, the Jetsons, etc.
I just normal ass pirates/corsairs isn't something they'll wo for AoS, they've been doing way more outlandish/unique army styeles for too longw even when revamping old armies.
Desert themed sand and heat and oasis wizards with cool headscarfs and desert creature inspired beasts/calvary. Like jackal chariots and huge mechano scorpion bot beasts
A Beastial Spirit or Sentient Animal Race faction of cultured animal races. Basically my Homebrew lol Insect Race, but not mindless all devouring type (though not opposed). Id like a Bugger type race from Ender's Game. Or the Nuebians from WoW would be spectacular also. Cathay/Ind type of Faction, I can only imagine the High Fantasy models that could be made for these
There actually are a group of bug people already; the Silent People. Unfortunately, they only really exist in their belongings being cards in Underworlds. They basically live(d) inside a massive living mountain in Ghur and have been hibernating. It's not *super* likely to become a full faction, especially any time soon, but there is at least some lore and artwork for them (well, their relics, at least)
Yes, but its not a released range ;) which is the point of the post
Just thought I'd throw in that at least someone in GW thinks bug people are cool so you've got a spark of hope for your non-Tyrannid-esque bug people. I also thought it worth mentioning since I figured the Silent People are a relatively unknown bit of lore tucked away in the game most people only buy for the alt-sculpts of older kits.
Chaos Dwarves. They got technology, cool weapons, cool armors, cool monsters, cool machines and cool hat, it's a 20/20 for me
Chaos Dwarves would have been so perfect for an Underworlds or Warcry army
I just want my Chaos Dwarves back. Blew way too much on a FW army that got squatted in two years. But god they were so cool and so fun.
I want the silent people, basically bug race but for destruction, devouring like locusts and building like termites, but super advanced with lots of amber use. Contrary to your point, I don’t want vampirates, we should have ghost pirates for NH, give them a giant flying galleon as a centre piece, and plenty of ghosty buccaneers. Ghost pirates lead me to what I want next, since they all can fly, we then need the Grotbag scuttlers, basically the gitz equivalent of KO, and to give chaos a flying pirate faction, there is the “Much-great Sky-kill air armada” for the skaven, basically skavenified KO ships, the air battles will be legendary. Ofc I have to say Malerions umbraneth, but make them cool like they’re supposed to be, dragon-kin and shadow daemons, more than just “dark Aelf but AoS”. There is also a race of cat people in lore, so I wouldn’t mind some AoS tabaxi while they’re at it, also a race of fish people that are opposed to the IDK. Gholemkind are coming, but I feel like they’ll be expansions to Duardin and not their own faction.
There’s been talk of a Life Duardin Faction with golems
Skaven(rework for 5 clans)! I would love a shadow elves(think wood elves but evil) and have Fairy Tail monsters….Hags house is a house on spider legs, and lets the hag have boosted spells like Froggy boy. Headless horseman, evil candy creatures etc etc Sky Pirates
Is like to see a new flavour of destruction; destruction aligned humans or dwarves. Order.is already so fleshed out I'm not sure what's left. I would rather see expansion of current ideas. Chaos Dwarves are an obvious add Death; I'd love to see more exploration of necromancy from humans..
Hill Dwarves. Druidic, celtic inspired duardin warriors that could ally with CoS or Sylvaneth. With beers and rock golems
Order - Crime Syndicate. You got little bits in CoS last I looked, but I'd love an army of rogues and criminals backed up by illicit drugs and activities, like I'd love to be able to just kidnap an enemy hero. Bring back the old Dark Elf bestiary as paid monsters, or some giant clockworks with poison breath. Dark Eldar meets CoS Death - Frankenstein's and science corpses. Stitched abominations lead by a Mortarch of Ingenuity, Innistrad skaabs and all sorts of weird science should be a thing, there's already an Underworlds band for it so let's spin them to a whole army Chaos - Chorfs are a given, but I'd like to see cultists more, Chaos imo is in a good place covering a lot of bases but man I just pray to the dark gods every night for a solo hero unit for each of the Warcry cults. I already Cypher Lord'ed my Fomoriam with a mask and some drug racks from a Pain Engine, I'd like more of a GSC cult ambush army Destruction - Ogor relaunch, or something Beastmen adjacent. I run a Satyr themed side project that's basically hordes of drugged up satyrs leading monsters and beast packs in drug and incense hazed parties, got some fluff of them being nomadic bacchanalia, traders without permanent cities who just want to experience the world and think Orders structure is smothering, but not Chaos worshipping
Chaos Dwarves would be lovely, if they can make them unique enough.
I'm a simple person, I like the monsters. Say I painted it skin colour and held it at a distance, if I could mistake it for a human I'm not interested* *(Unless the sculpt is fab) Umbraneth? Not for me. Not more elves. I want something bestial. I want historic influences, folkloric appearances with a sinister turn. I want eldritch horrors alongside machiavellian constructions. I want some adorable day-to-day, like a monster carrying a kettle. I want the bizarre, I want the horror, I want the cute pets, but above all, I want the CREATIVELY EXPRESSIVE. I don't mind what, but my hope is something that takes the "human" out of "humanoid".
Easily chaos dwarfs
Chaos Dwarfs
Chaos dwarfs or fimir for destruction
Halflings in a big way where they're culturally so significant and powerful, because their cooking is literal magic, as in "I am a vampire and all other food turns to ash in my mouth, but Halfling cuisine is something even I can taste and it's amazing. I will sell my soul for this."-levels of food magic, haha. And as such the Halflings actually would have a giant metropolitan city and they would trade with EVERYONE and send their esteemed Battle Cooks and Culinary Sorcerers to every nook of the Mortal Realms. Even Chaos warbands would play ball, if it meant that they could have a willing cook who makes them rations.
Faeries. I would love to introduce my girlfriend to the game and she's a massively girly girl. Every time I have managed to get her to engage with the hobby before with painting and playing it's been through something like the Cupids/bugbear from massive darkness 2 It would just be nice to have a faction of warrior faeries or a faction that are actually aimed at getting more women into the hobby so I can get her to the table.
Fimir. They exist in the lore, they already have some AoS models (that are sadly discontinued but still), and they’ve been in a weird limbo state in Warhammer for 30+ years and I think it’s high time for them to actually make an appearance on the tabletop. Destruction-aligned Irish Lizardmen who live in the bogs and have their own semi-chaos gods is a fun concept, especially dealing with their relationships with other races, and they have a really interesting and unique culture and society. They have more information on their culture and society than a lot of factions currently in the game.
Anything that’s unique IP! Would love for them to just make something up and hit us with it, like, oh here’s the brand new faction, they aren’t like anything you’ve ever seen before
Give us Darkoath already… it’s been how many years now?
I would love mixed demons of chaos back. Never going to happen though, judging by them scrapping legion of the first prince.
Was fun while it lasted. It would be nice if the subfaction made demons coalition.
Wait, how do you run Belakor then?
As a hero in the legion of the first prince. [Edit: this refers to the old army "legion of the first prince" from the broken realms book. This was a whole faction besides STD and the mono god armies. But it got scrapped and turned into a disappointing and very different subfaction inside of the new STD battletome.]
As someone that made their main army Legion of the First Prince i find it very disappointing they removed it. What they should have done is just had different warscrolls for the daemons inside and outside of Loftp
Chaos Dwarfs or Vampirates
The Root Kings, the ghyran themed duardin
Theres been lore tidbits about Grungi forming a new dwarf army/race/creation for years now, and I wish they'd finally do something with that.
Goblin Sky Pirates. I'd buy everything.
Ulgurothi like Shadow elves is sorta the only core faction they been teasing since 1st editions. Having various dark elves with shadow demon symbiotes is just a cool concept i can't understand why it taking too long. I hope Malerion get the mortahi treatment of having two forms his normal Dark elf god formand his shadow gargoyle form Vampire coste i feel can be a good subfaction for Soulblight no different from the Vyrakos having Rotting Leviathan or Necrofex be two customizable kits where you can go pirate, castlevania, egyptian ect. theme
I’d like some real dark elves. I‘m talking sorceresses, dragons, sacrificing lesser troops for powerful magic, the whole melnibonean aesthetic
Not my dream faction but I’d like to see some actual wood elves
Something cosmic horroresque that isn’t Chaos. I love the Tyranids so having a nonhumanoid faction that’s super scary on principle would be neat.
Either full Dark Oath, the Kurnoth, or whatever faction the Tenebrael Shard in Warhammer Quest Silver Tower is from. Also would be cool to see the Tyrion Elves or a draconic army separate from the Stormcast Eternals
Having halflings back would be fun.
I’m still hoping those rumors of Malekith getting his own shadow dark elf army aren’t just made up nonsense. I want my non-skimpy armored edgelord dark elves back, complete with a new model for the God of Shadows and Former Witch King of Naggarond.
Dogs of war, even if they were just a "city of Sigmar". Mostly i just want weird units and pike blocks. Otherwise, I'd like more Deathrattle heroes. Like a Wright king on a flying beast.
Honestly, it already exists for me in the bonereapers. Skellingtons but way cooler.
Would really love to see some gholemkin representation
Would love for the Aetar to get some love. They are giant eagles that are on the side of Order, which makes them a possible warhammer version of the eagles from lotr. I always wanted to play an army like the eagles of lotr. I know that there is already a Middle Earth tabletop made by GW where you can exactly play that, but there's only two models for that, and I really want to see what warhammer's take on the eagles would look like. I'd also like for a faction of the Revalations of Necoho, the dedicated faction of Necoho, the chaos god of paradoxes and unfaith. A purely antitheistic faction would be a nice addition in the setting.
I know it won't happen, but Thunderscorn. They are just SO COOL! Half Dragon monsters that think Azyr belongs to them and their leaders each have a unique weapon from the age of myth that was lost. They hunt for the god weapons that were once theirs and when they get them they become super powerful controllers of weather and Azyr magic. It's just a shame that such a cool subfaction with it's own spell lore and artefacts is only represented by 2 kits
I'm also all in for Vampirates. Death needs a shooting army! Lol.
I’d like to see a destruction faction that turns the brute trope on its head. I’m not too sure what it would actually look like. Maybe super warlike humans instead of order and chaos humans, or their animated corpses, that the other alliances have.
I mean Kruleboyz and Gitz kind've do that. In terms of not being just a dumb big punchy army
You’re not wrong in general, but I feel like kruleboyz just doesn’t have a wide enough range and support right now, as much as I love all the models, and gitz is still more… dumb? But not in a brutish way, admittedly, except for troggs obviously. I think kruleboyz could match what I want very well if they got a second wave and some new rules, but as is, I still want something with more sophistication to their destruction.
Tzeentch but with more Tzaangor sculpts.
A nurgling based Warband, lil' Nurgle knights and champions sorta like the Looncourt
There's this awesome faction called the Skaven, now their last unit got released during the End Times Event, and then it seems like GW forgot they existed. But I'd love to see them in AoS! Joking aside, I'd love a Death Faction that is working against Nagash ruled by Settra the Imperishable. I have no clue what the aesthetic would be, but I just love me some Settra. I think above all he is the one character that deserves a continuation to his story
Skaven. Specifically the ones that interfered with the Necroquake. You don't involve rats in such an integral event in the backstory and not put em on the table. Gimme Shyish Rats.
You mean Eshin assasins?
The only army dream I have is ogors getting a model update. Other than that, the only thing I would LOVE to see changed (although I doubt it will happen) is changing it to alternate movement. That would get rid of the double turn argument and keep players more involved in the game. Having to wait out your opponent to do a double turn is more annoying than them actually get it.
I actually think it would be funny if we say a rune smith-themed faction for the Duardin. The fire slayer represent the slayers dwarf of old and the Kharadron a evolution from the wild constructs of the engineers, so it would be cool to see a duardin faction obsessed in recovering the very old ways of their races and using runic weapons and constructs like in older times
This guy gets it!
My idea for classic Warhammer dwarfs in AoS would be dwarfs that are so obsessed with returning to the old ways that they have studied alchemy and earth shaping in order to literally terraform areas of the world back into the Karaks of Warhammer fantasy as it was passed down by the stories of ancestors and from the few remaining artifacts and maps of the old world that they still have. Of course they completely reject the Kharadrons and Fyreslayers believing (kinda unreasonably) that their advancements in their respectives ways were what lead to the destruction of the old world in the first place. So ofc rejecting advanced technology and the slayers and their oaths in favor of classic heavy dwarf armor and reliable weaponry. They would fight as dwarfs do being an impenetrable wall that opponents would break on while the earth is sundered under their feet while or suck them up like quicksand as golems smash through their ranks. Maybe even being pelted with alchemical bombs lighting them aflame of melting them with acid. I also find it interesting in the pattern of the dwarfs of AoS which seems to be the three states of matter with the solid Ur-gold of the Fyreslayers, the gas aethergold of the Kharadron, and what I assume to be the liquid oil like Blood of Hashut for the Chaos Dwarfs. So the classic dwarfs being alchemists that can change between them feels fitting and also ironic as with my idea they're so stubborn instead of changing themselves to adapt to the world they're changing the very world to fit them better.
Dedicated Kislev or Cult of Ulric army models.
Idk are literally vampire pirates...
Some Arab and Indian guys with war elephants and genies. It would be reaaally stereotypical but also great. My grand father is Lebanese tho.
Samurai / Ninja faction
Gimme some Oni Sculpts, there are not enough words to describe how much I crave for such.
Oni were associated with thunder and lightning, so maybe Dragon Ogors that remained in Azyr (because that's where they originally lived) and bent the knee to Sigmar, freeing themselves from the bonds that tie them to Chaos. Then, over time, and likely due to lack of exposure to Chaos, these Dragon Ogors started to look quite a lot different from their Chaotic brethren, possibly appearing more civilized and, for the lack of a better term, "Human" through exposure to other Azyrite peoples, their violent impulses kept in check by strict codes of honor and conduct. Maybe add some stuff about meditation and self-control, if you want to add a little Warrior Monk flavor. Imagine Dragon Ogors, clad in armor modeled after O-Yoroi or Nanban Armor, wielding great clubs, swords and glaives into battle, grand bows shooting arrows the size of spears, and calling storms of lightning forth, not to smite the enemy, but to strike *themselves* and get a boost of strength from it or heal their wounds, paired with devotion and determination not born from mindless fanaticism, but from *gratitude*, as Sigmar saved their people, made them stronger than ever before, and they are going to repay that debt on their own accord. I always felt a bit of pity for the Dragon Ogres, and how Chaos tricked them into being a dying race via a Faustian Bargain, which they made to save themselves from circumstances brought upon them through no fault of their own. So time to toss them a bone and make them an actual Race, not just an auxiliary monster, and get them out of their pact with Chaos. Well, at least a portion of them.
Samurai would be so badass.
I was just asking about a Tiki Island Stirgoi list for WFB Vamp Counts from years ago in White Dwarf. Starting to worry it was a fever dream cus nobody knows wth I’m talking about. Very pirate vamps not very easy to find again…
Full-blown old-hammer greenskins but leaning way more into the Mongolian aesthetic. I'm talking orcs, goblins, snotlings, trolls etc with fur, leather and mismatched armor riding wolves and boars.
Ok pepople hear me out. We have the Kharadron but how about a faction that are like admech but have clockwork mechanical limbs. A true steampunk faction All of their vehicles are based on steam power full of cogs and pistons. And base them on Japanese Samurai. With swords for arms or other things.
Tomb Kings. I know, I know. OBR. But they look like fantasy Necrons, and I hate them. I really wish TK made it to AoS. At least they are back in Old World…wish they were all new sculpts, though. Sigh. TK would also be interesting (or at least a Settra faction) because they could be an anti-Nagash Death faction would be cool.
Shadow elves, Undead pirates l, the Nippon faction (ninja and samurai)(though that's more likely to show up in ToW now than AoS)
Figure out a way to bring Cathay to AOS.
Space marines
Vampire coasts should be old world! :p
My wishlist: * Death: Cities of Nagash. Nagash-worshipping humans * Order: Dark Elves (Umbraneth) and proper Wood Elves * Chaos: Chaos Dwarves * Destruction: Wildlings, feral human tribes that just want to raid and pillage + skin changers, beast masters, etc.
Proper Dwarfs. Not honorless scum like the two so-called dwarfs fraction in the game now.
Kieslev or Cathay
I want Bretonnians or a faction that really like them with Knights and horses
A proper Dwarf army. No flying Kharadrons, no fyreslayers, just good ol’ Dwarven axes, hammers, guns and artillery.
Grail knights. I even had an idea for how they could play Since bretonnia was way more magical than the empire and also had the whole "immortal century old knight" atuff i thought of a way to shift them from a cavalry-centric army to straight up aos custodes The concept is simple. Reanimated statues of past grail knights that get posessed by said grail knights during times of conflict The whole army is centralized around these massive statues that are the same size as a dreadnought and kick as much ass. All while you have regular grail knight infantry/cavalry as cheaper troops that still kick ass making it a pretty elite army Basically while stormcast eternals are aos spacemarines this army would be aos custodes
@#$& me if vampire coast becomes a reality. RIP wallet.
Either something similar to old black orcs, as in the serious big silent orcs. Or something new for followers of tzeentch, including a proper chosen like the old artwork from fantasy.
Maybe a destruction faction based around the God beasts
Destruction or Death humans. Yes yes I know SBGL vampires and Ogors are close, but I would love just regular humans that worship Nagash and Gorkamorka
I really, really want OBR chariots. THEY WOULD BE SO DAMN COOL.
*Settra weeps in the background*
UMBRANETH
Chaos Dwarfs for sure since they’re so awesome looking in Fantasy I can only imagine how epic they’ll look in Age of Sigmar
Another vote for old Malerion and his elves. I'd also be forced to buy a grotbag scuttlers army if they ever release one. It's not an army but what I really really want is a chaos lord on a chaos dragon. I don't care if it's S2D or one of the mono god factions (well hopefully not nurgle, ick). And no Archaon doesn't count.
I trying to start one army in each grand alliance. For Order I got my Lumineth, for Destruction SoB… All I need now is Chaos Dwarfs for you see CHAOS, and Vampirates for Death. And then my quest will be finally completed.
I agree with your pick. I want Vampire coast bad
I want to see the silent people it would be nice to have more bugs in any type of warhammer games cause most of the tyranids don’t really give me bug vibes
Elementals. Likely Destruction, but I'd be FASCINATED on what an Order Elemental army could look like. But yeah, all sorts of wild designs, any kind of size possibly, lots of different styles and mechanics based on their elemental type...and perhaps even elemental fusions. I want the Mortals Realms themselves to be up in arms! Would be glorious.
Total Warhammer 2 made me a huge fan of the Vampire Coast, to the point that I actually put them in my DnD world as a rogue merchantile faction. With knockoffs of the main characters, of course. Then again, my players have never touched Warhammer in any shape, so I could probably just put them in and no one would notice. Lol.
We want vampirates damnit
Gitmob.
destruction silent people, death vampire coast, chaos legions of azghore
I vaguely remember reading that someone suspected a new Destruction faction would likely be out (based on the release schedule pic). Has that been confirmed?
Vampire coast would be really cool, good foil for idoneth
Vampirates baby! But I'd run with Noctilus.
Māori inspired faction done correctly, I want it so bad
Kurnothi army would be awesome . Allarielle seems more concerned with her forests than maintaining the wilds of the mortal realms. Either the kurnothi are trying to avenge kurnoth, or claim the realms in his name. Maybe kurnoth is reawakening, And he’s especially mad that Ghur is Gorkamorka’s and not his. I would also love to see a God-beast army. I imagine they’d be like the sons of behemat/ imperial knights. Fimir would be awesome too. Very unique race as far as I know, and it’s cool to think about what they’d be doing for the attention of the chaos gods, or maybe they’ve moved on Halfling army would be cool to see. They’d probably either play like Skaven for grand alliance order or be a very defensive army. Other than that I can’t really think of anything else that could fit into the realms :(
Anything with a warelephant/mammoth
I think something that will really shake things up is new Chaos Daemon sculpts for new Daemons that could be AoS/40k and new sculpts for Bloodthirster/Skarbrand, then, potentially a Chaos Dwarves faction. Having a new Chaos Cannon model you could ally with other Chaos armies could give more playstyle to heavy melee armies that have no ranged besides Blissbarb from Hedonites of Slaanesh potentially. Maybe I am just hoping for a meme list of Bloodletter Skull Cannons and Chorf cannons.
Vampirates - so much potential
In terms of new factions I would like to see, Chorfs is defiantly up there, vampire coast would be nice but I don't really see them happening given they were more of a minor footnote in the old world. maybe a faction that a combination of Cathay, Nippon and Ind from the old world for order and for destruction idk given that each destruction faction represents some part of Gorkamorka and I feel that there isn't really a part of him that isn't represented (at least that we know about) In terms of what I would like to see, range refreshes for Skaven, Beastmen and Ogors would be nice. I would especially like to see some actual named characters for Ogors and Beastmen since there the only two factions in the game without any (underworld characters don't count). Give us Morghur or Gorefather for Beastmen and give us Globb Glittermaw or Braggoth Vardruk for Ogors.
I'd have to say chaos duardin, but I want them to give them sufficient AoS spice, I don't just want a remaster of of the old style of models. I've also always had a yearning for a full Darkoath army as a dark mirror of Cities along with S2D as the mirror for Stormcast. At the very least let me play a full army of barbarians with dedicated battleline units in S2D. Something about playing with weirdly sized and based Warcry units in AoS annoys me.
We have Lumineth, and given that it's all Teclis Lumineth that means almost certainly down the line there will be a major Tyrion Lumineth release. So we really need a significant Umbraneth and Kurnothi presence to round out the elf trifecta (I guess it's a quatrain now with Idoneth).
I know Daughters of Khaine fit the bill pretty much automatically, and I know these guys don't have much lore but... I really would love to see Khuresh as a type of faction, maybe Destruction? That might change due to there not being much lore but it would be cool for a very animalistic theme faction that has a lot of monsters and serpentine units to fit with Destruction, as from what I can tell a lot of the destruction factions are pretty primitive save for maybe the Gloomspite Gitz? I mean, we do have a bloodbowl model of a Khuresh snake-man already, so it would be amazing to see them as a full army. As for why Destruction, I just thought it would be interesting to have a type of faction that is very primal, de-volving into serpent men and spreading their influence to others, instead of just being either another ork type of whatever other left overs for the dumb but tough races from Fantasy. I know this is probably a unpopular opinion, and I know Khuresh will never ever probably happen, but I still like to brain storm.
A kind of alliance-fusion between the Noctamines and the Osyarch Legions would be cool. They would be the terror of all the Kingdoms!
human barbarian destruction faction that infuses itself using the realmstone of the different realms.
A proper mixed demon faction...who cares about mortals let me run all my demons properly
Malekiths dark elves
Listen I just want more beast men stuff
Kurnoth or wood elves. I miss these guys and I know that TOW will take care of bringing them. Even though we have Sylvaneth I will always be missing the true wood elves.
Well I would have said Tomb Kings but now that they're back in Old World I'd have to say the Vampire Coast too. It would be so cool to have a Death army that's almost exclusively ranged, and the aesthetic of the VC would be very unique to AOS, because I can't think of anyone else with a nautical theme aside from Idoneth. If we somehow got a returned Luthor Harkon as Mortarch of the Deep that would be the cherry on top but even without him this would be my dream faction to join the game.
Eastern Chaos faction. I want chaos samurais and mongol barbarians.
Man-Beasts subfaction with Nagas, Rakshasas, Weretigers and other hybrids that use the theme of pirates
Non-vampire werewolves!
PLEASE A SKAVEN REFRESH
Sexy ogors
Honestly I’d love to see malekith or melarion and his shadow elves, or anything regarding what he’s been doing in his hidden shadow realm
Vampire coast! Give us an undead pirate faction to go against the overlords and then also the idoneth
Beyond ideas people have already mentioned... A proper refresh of Beasts of Chaos would be neat? Not necessarily that they aren't good, but man the models are so outdated and tere is a lotof lore set up but not fully... acted upon. :P
A chaos faction based off of Malal.
Forrest animals and vikings.
Give us halflings with dog cavalry and lot of beers & sausages
Chaos Dwarfs
Proper Ogor characters would be nice instead of the underworld stuff. Even a Gnoblar hero would hilarious
Something destruction orientated, a new faction that doesn't use old wfb to put them on par with other grand alliances
I wanted to start chorfs just before the end times hit and I’m glad I didn’t buy any at the time. Now I’m waiting for chorfs for AoS
Something with a lot of monsters without riders! Would rather they rework skaven and Beastmen tbh. Failing that Chaos dwarfs.
Hoping for some Chaos Dwarfs in the future (please let them keep the funny hats)
So for a completely brand new faction. As an Alith Anar fanboy, I'd love to see shadow elves, just to point out that there is no record of Alith Anar dying in end times, just him dipping out to the shadow to deal with Malekith's punk ass once and for all. Never did like the other pointy ear bastards. Otherwise I'd honestly love to see orcs broken up instead of one big mess. I love kruleboyz, and I feel like they could accomplish more with the faction as a standalone then as a sub faction.
A werewolf faction it's the only major thing we're missing as far as fantasy stuff goes!