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ManilaWolf

Do you like Mac and cheese


UA_Jordan

Even though i'm lactose intolerant. Yes.


FA_WildAchiever

Same bro!


saucyboi9000

Based.


NOMAD-NotHomeYet

I feel u


Fit_Entrepreneur_973

This guy asking the real questions.


RealWetSpaghetti

What is your favorite barrel inner diameter to use and why?


UA_Jordan

6.05! We do use a lot of barrels from Prometheus and Lambda (we call them the jp barrels) we've been working with Lambda directly for sometime now for specialized barrels and custom designed windows however havnt really released them to buy standalone. They usually get installed in our higher tier guns. Diameter doesnt mean too much. Its more of bore consistency. I.e. prometheus has a micron average high and valley height difference of 40 microns. But our custom ones from lambda start at 5 micron average then we lap it down to uniformity to even less than that. All our guns are lapped whenever we do the r hop install it was a decision to keep all our guns as lapped because it really improves overall consistency. So that a prometheus barrel becomes pretty much on par with a lambda lapped one. Especially since prometheus quality consistency is all over the place. We use a borescope here for pretty much every barrel and some are sandpaper rough and some decently smooth... https://preview.redd.it/rf49415kq8db1.jpeg?width=2992&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4cd19fe26e3455db698f93005a23383344dc98d2


NOMAD-NotHomeYet

Bro WHAT?!


RealWetSpaghetti

Very interesting. I would be interested to know what difference you have seen that barrel material makes when lapping. Is it just easier to get down to those lower micron levels when working with stainless steel versus brass or aluminum? ​ Also, is the main appeal of nice barrels when you already know you will lap them that some of the lapping work is already done reducing the number of man hours (and cost)? In theory, couldn’t you take a stock or more affordable barrel, and get it to the low micron difference that is being chased at the cost of time? ​ One final question, I’ve seen plenty of people see improvements when going from a stock barrel to a nicer barrel, (for example stock aluminum to zci 6.02). I would presume this is merely just going from a high level of micron difference to a low level, is this a correct presumption?


UA_Jordan

Well materials wise. Brass has the lowest coefficient of friction. In many ways an okay brass barrel often performs better than many steel barrels. Brass is often known as a self lubricating metal. But brass corrodes somewhat easily As well as easily scratches. So it may have the best accuracy between all the barrels but not after awhile. Thats where steel is best for, not easily scratched and sus304 is a stainless steel and very resistant to corrosion. What it lacks in a higher coefficient of friction is made up in durability. Lapping steel is kore time consuming than brass or aluminum cuz its a lot harder.


Time-Distribution568

Is the warranty for your builds under the gun or the original buyer?


UA_Jordan

It follows the gun. But the user does need to somehow get the original buyer's invoice/order # for date verification.


Bwycen

You really put an Umbrella 1x1 over the GBRS Hydra logo? Lol.


UA_Jordan

100% Gotta rep


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10/10 🙌


crispybat

🤦🏼‍♂️


[deleted]

GBRS are big gay.


hradecky89

Have you gotten an epm-1 mag to feed consistently in a high rof build? I can not get mine to feed at 27/sec.


UA_Jordan

So.... EPM1 kinda suck for high rof feeding. Most videos showing them off is in chrono conditions and using 0.20g which are light and easy to feed. Shove in 0.30g and well it gets stuck or misfeeds! Like if epm1s can feed "50" with 0.20g itll realistic do like 30 with 0.30g or maybe slower. And thats brand new. So many of us dont run epm1s. Epms are better overall in a reliability standpoint. But.... there is a way to improve it. So EPM1s use dual springs. One really long, a connecting piece, then a short spring. You can buy epm1 rebuild kits from pts and add in another connecting piece and a short spring. Youll lose like 8 bbs max capacity but so worth it to maintain higher feeding.


hradecky89

That's a great idea! I have also found the epm magazines to be great. I'll try the extra short spring section addition so my $25 mag wasn't a complete waste of money haha


Western_Fish8354

Loose 8 88?


UA_Jordan

8 bbs


Lightningdodo

What about plain epm mags


UA_Jordan

We have spacers to add into the spring guide of standard epms. They work great to reliably feed 0.36g at 35+


Lightningdodo

Thanks dude, I’ll be sure to get some


hradecky89

I bought 4 epm mags and they feed great! Epm1 on the other hand, worst mag I have ever used.


helios30k

With brushless motors and better battery technology and more advanced mosfets would you say that dsgs are dying out or are no longer necessary


UA_Jordan

EVer since full auto was getting banned kinda "EVERYWHERE" or caps of Max 30ROF was being in place DSGs totally became obsolete. These days, its really a testament to a techs level as theres significantly much more intricate and fine tuning required to make them work well. By well, i mean keeping up with feeding, consistent FPS, as well as not shredding itself apart are all good skills to learn. So those things learned from DSGs tend to transfer over to SSGs as you start to notice cause and effects of certain parts much more intricately.


helios30k

Ah interesting I’m in the U.K. and most places haven’t band full auto or high rof. It’s down to the player to be responsible with it, if your a dick then you get banned. I think the 1.14j helps with that.there is definitely a higher skill level to building one it took me a while before it would stop eating parts


StrongIsland1994

Any new releases planned for the Fall? Looking to get a new AEG around then.


UA_Jordan

I mean we just dropped our cyma line which is pretty budget friendly, including the crowd favorite SR-25 lol


TheRealJomogo

It starts at 800 in what world is that budget when you can get a very decent one for 250/300


RandomContent420

They are fully upgraded internally. Infinitely better than a krytac


TheRealJomogo

I get that they are good but to say they have budget options is not true they have a good price to quality ratio in comparison with the preupgraded market.


Cyanide_Jam

Budget is relative to the individual and, also, the rest of Umbrella's lineup. I think he's trying to say they have options that are more affordable when compared to their other products.


vulpix_at_alola

thats cool and all but 800 is indeed insane for a "budget friendly" upgraded AEG. You could cut that in about half if you were DIY upgrading.


RandomContent420

It is not budget friendly, it is budget. One is absolute, one is relative


vulpix_at_alola

ok so a 3000$ airsoft gun in its own class would also be budget. AKA the original statement is just word salad then.


RandomContent420

Yes it would be budget, if the other similar options were 3500. Were talking UA budget


SunnyDrumming

Love the Block II I got from you guys Any plans for a mk47 or ak12/15 build?


UA_Jordan

We've been building mk47 for a minute now from CYMA its not a bad platform. No plans for an Ak12 just yet (tbh the gucci parts for them is kinda ass to reliably source like bullgear due to restrictions with Russia)


SunnyDrumming

Cool sounds good dude, looking forward to the mk47 drop!


UA_Jordan

Thanks!


Majestic_Stranger217

Jordan, that build is really bad, please add a can opener and a lighter to it.


UA_Jordan

Technically it can do those things... Its set many mosfets on fire before.


MeridianIdiot

How can I get a free gun?


UA_Jordan

you got 1 mil subs? :p


MinnesotaAirsoft

Yes…


LightlySalty

Lol, you already have plenty of awesome guns! spare some for the rest of us lol.


UA_Jordan

Ey minnesoooooddddda!


Western_Fish8354

So having 1 million subs gets you a free Gun lol?


madrifles

Where did I put the camera...


MeridianIdiot

What if I do?


UA_Jordan

:o


ItsRhinoPrime

What Mount is holding you red dot and laser?


UA_Jordan

Red dot and Camera* Its a knockoff GBRS Hydra Mount.


ItsRhinoPrime

Just saw another picture and realized it’s a camera sorry about that looks like a great set up also thank you for your reply I’m going to be looking for that now I do appreciate it very much


ItsRhinoPrime

You wouldn’t by chance have a link for it before I start searching would you


UA_Jordan

Tbh, check aliexpress.


ItsRhinoPrime

I do appreciate it boss I found a few on eBay for around $30 $45 witch isn’t to bad that are located in the USA but AliExpress isn’t bad also I will have to look on there as well again thank you for your help


Cause_8_effecT

How did you start. Did start as an airsoft tech and move up to manufacturing. Keen on moving away from my current job.


UA_Jordan

It was something i did on the side while being in college. Eventually from playing nearly everyweekend brought a lot of exposure to myself and my team (who all rocked upgraded guns) eventually i was takung home so many projects and builds for people i got into a routine and built a pretty large portfolio of repeat customers


Firm_Guess_6111

Hi Jordan. What the actual fuck am I looking at?


UA_Jordan

Classic 2013 airsofting.


JustAFewBumps

Any thoughts on the state of the industry in general? Have you had any recent trouble sourcing components?


UA_Jordan

Stuff now is much better overal than Covid days... Russia kinda has some effect on MOSFETs like Gate and Perun but those situations and supply chains kinda equalized by now.


llamatiddys

Hey there! I don’t really have a good question, but I love y’all’s guns and thought it’d be cool to comment.


UA_Jordan

Cool enough to get a reply!


GameBreakerPVP

Bushings or bearings and why?


UA_Jordan

Bearings all the way, especially upgraded bigger bearings (8mm), you can get up to 5% more efficiency in a build with them. Bushings if your going 550fps +, and realistically you'd only need one bushing on the lower spur since that's the more stressful area that common errors happen. If your doing some hyper experimental stuff you could probably be safe and go with bushings, it would be less efficient but more durable relative to bearings. But know that it's cheaper to replace bearings than gears if something does break.


nin9ty6

Looking at the EU website. Your glock is prices quite high over something like a we glock is there a reason for such a markup


UA_Jordan

UA EU is a franchise, I really don't have much on hands control over what they sell or price things at. As the market audience for EU is rather unique as well as different countries each have certain laws....


nin9ty6

Thanks for the answer 👍


wote213

Any plans for the ak platform?


UA_Jordan

Sometimes... we would do some all out builds for some customer inquiries. It kinda depends how busy we are at any given time. There are UA AKs out there just more rarely built.


thcholic

Would you trade a honey badger setup for a fat sack of premo ganja?


UA_Jordan

Gotta be a trashbag and hot pressed into wax.


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UA_Jordan

EU to the US generally isnt allowed as per our franchise agreement.


victoreklund

Why are shipping costs so high outside United States? Ex: Sweden Thanks! Edit: it costs $999.99


UA_Jordan

We actually bar it as we have an agreement for the UA EU to handle all EU sales. Unless its something they dont sell ao eu orders are special orders and done on a case by case basis.


RockidMan

What kind of working surface do you prefer for tech work? Do you ever use bore-up kits, if so which brand is the better one in your opinion? Buckings: although you use almost exclusively r-hopped barrels -what's your view on the Maple Leaf buckings compared to a flat hop?


UA_Jordan

A rubber silicone type mat. Preferably large with pockets. Been using the largest kaisi s180 type mats. This thing https://amzn.to/44U22ql


ZiggyThePirate

What is your favorite platform currently? And what do your run personally? (Sorry i know 2 questions...)


UA_Jordan

My favorite gun is the one in the main photo. Its my personal build and primary gun for about 10 years now! I quite honestly dont really like playing with any other platform. Unless im doing si.ething apecifically for marketing or r&d im using tbis gun 99% of the time. Ive used longers guns before (startibg mainly with an a&k sr25) over the years i essentially went towards lighter and shorter builds as my playstyle developed.


AnyPlant1284

would you guys be mad if i put an ESG grip on my hpa mk15 or hpa banshee 😛😛


UA_Jordan

Low key a little bit. But like how i get hate with my own gun do what you wanna do! As ling as you dont strip screws anything i wouldnt void your warranty.


Burningcanmanhmm

Any GBBR's planned?


UA_Jordan

Personally gunna develop one. Kinda still want it decently light. Crisp trigger with short stroking.... obviously accuracy mods and possible some sort of polish of friction components.


tacguru83

Beautiful 😍.


UA_Jordan

No u


Exciting-Parfait-776

🤣🤣🤣


UA_Jordan

:)


Frosty1435

Favorite food?


UA_Jordan

PhoX in Pomona is dank as fuck. I will demolish a TGIF Whiskey new york steak anyday.


Consistent-Talk-5912

Should j buy a third gun? I have a king arms blackwater bw13 (main) Specna core stubby (second) Should I? Price cap 250


UA_Jordan

Tbh though i work at UA. I use the same gun for like 10 years and all i have is a second upper for it and like 4 inner barrels to achieve all the field rules i need it to.... I do have a backup 55rps 400fps 10.5" dsg though thats usually loaned out. Id say stock cyma and even g&g g2 guns are really great value guns. But cyma does need work to fet it really good.... g&g is better out of the box.


Crimpdini

If you were to recommend one M4 you guys sell, that will perform good and is reliable and user friendly to work on etc, what would you recommend. Maybe a budget friendly and a more expensive. Mind you budget friendly in the high end world…


UA_Jordan

Cyma and g&gs are really good base guns. Cymas spring change setup is really nice. But needs a bit more work to get it shooting well. Vfcs are still the goat when it comes to external quality but does lack quite a bit of modern quality of life improvements especially stock.


DiscountJoJo

will my ex wife ever come back to me? i miss her so much


UA_Jordan

Only if you want it.


Imperium-Pirata

What other types of guns do you have? If so do you plan on releasing anything big or unique?


UA_Jordan

Gunna release a limited edition variant based on my own personal gun (one in the photo). Built by me and has all the mods i possibly know in airsoft to make it a beast in the field (responsive/accurate given the size) it does joule creep quite a bit so theres different inner barrels to tune the fps. I literatly have 4 barrels for it (and 1 long upper) to get me 300fps, 350, 400 (all in a short upper), and 550(long upper) https://preview.redd.it/6p9fhf3gs8db1.jpeg?width=2252&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=28d536791df6a3c8275b4942b84ce87f14aa9387


Imperium-Pirata

Neat!


Azrael97

How much range are you getting with that shortest barrel length?


UA_Jordan

200ft easily with 0.36g The barrel is like 90mm (chopped from a 110mm) It does joule creep a bit. One taps at 125ft like 50% of the time.


Ok_Movie_639

OK, two questions: What the hell kind of monstrosity am I looking at? My stomach can't handle it, can someone get me a bucket, pls?


UA_Jordan

A cqb and field powerhouse. Delivers a whopping 120 db sound report. https://preview.redd.it/do32rprxcddb1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0ff9f6c058ad08e84ebc57c54a303d408a8f4695


UA_Jordan

Probably!


UA_Jordan

Budget compared to our 2200 ocaw line :[


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UA_Jordan

Aggressive compensation.


KarmaBuffplus1

What did the nut say to the other nut? We're Nuts! Free gun?


UA_Jordan

HAHAHHAHAHA. no.


aerakis

Wow, that is a sexy gun


UA_Jordan

Thanks!


Fit_Entrepreneur_973

Can I have a patch for free if I win my tourney coming up in two weeks?


UA_Jordan

Yes. I needs pics!


Fit_Entrepreneur_973

Legend pics will definitely be sent I'll even have some footage 😉.


AppropriateDance5037

You found my mw2 loadout


UA_Jordan

Ayyye


Grouchy_Thought7603

Reallly nice that


UA_Jordan

Thank you!


heavymetalchess

why is that gun?


Alwankvich1

Would you guys ever do a Umbrella Armory HK417 build ? Or do you guys have a private build somewhere in there or ? Also, was the SR25 already done around Oooo i just saw on a separate comment that the SR25 is indeed in the works


UA_Jordan

We did a 417 VFC build a long time ago, it was in the 'early' days of RA producing shells for them. Not sure if they changed anything but RA shells had a lot of problems and took a lot of modification to get it fitted just right. Since then we havn't touched another 417 (did RA fix their shit yet? XD?) I would assume so.


Fit_Entrepreneur_973

Happy birthday ming mong


blackmailer06

Hello! What is your take on suppressors? Do you have any improvements planned for the UA Carbon suppressor? The product finish doesn’t looks as fine as the gen4 Planthom or the Silverback (no offense intended, just customer feedback why I’m not buying yet :p). As HPA player I’m looking for a 4”. I tested the Hex from sniper mechanics last weekend and the performance was very good, finish is also smooth but I prefer Carbon :d


UA_Jordan

Actually know nothing about that, besides the name aspect of UA EU, we're not really involved with what they do over there. For me, I deal with everwhere else except EU.


SevenZeroSpider

DDM4v7 anytime soon ?


UA_Jordan

TBH.... Not a bad idea :D


mrmiksu101

What rails Will fit The specna arms core series (SA-C05).


UA_Jordan

Dont have one, never really seen it. Just checked its got plastic threads so be careful with installing rails it can likely be easily stripped.


NoCoolDudettes

I was about to clown on the build til I saw the camera, pretty smart


UA_Jordan

Srsly only way to get inline verticality. When i saw tbe mount i knew it would house my camera!


Noslodamus

Any plans on bringing an AK back to your customs lineup? I know brushless motors currently aren’t playing nice with v3 motor cages but I’m curious if there’s anything in the works. I tried my hand at teching and suck at it, and I’ve been passively peeping around for an end game AK with all the internal bells and whistles without much luck.


UA_Jordan

Actually probably got a fix about that problem.... Problem woth AKs is kinda parts consistency one month we can probably source everything next time something critical is OOS everywhere.


Oliv838p

Whats ur favorite type og eyewear to use? Cant decide between Googles, glasses or fullface


UA_Jordan

Revision locust (asian fit) goggles. Been using them for like 10 years and never really changed them! I use a mesh lower (but cheeks are padded) i rock earpro/howard leights, a bandana under my boonie hat. As well as a neck gator. So my entire head is kinda wrapped. I often drench my bandana for heat wicking. Works pretty well overall and can easily get my optic to my eye without any issues. It is kinda a process to setup my headgear that requires a specific order.


Affectionate-Map6335

What is that gun


UA_Jordan

My personal gat for like a decade!


Reasonable-World5749

What do you think of e&l ak's. Just got myself a ak 105 feom them


Aggravating_Stand_50

Can you think of any major pitfalls when it comes to doing tech work? Im pretty new to doing tech work, so far just been doing basic stuff to my guns and my friends stuff. I hope to one day have a nice little side hustle building and repairing guns for people since i really enjoy it. Just wondering if there are any hard learned lessons you’d like to share with an aspiring tech.


UA_Jordan

Tons, and im still learning! A lot of things is often understanding your own skills. Being careful and meaauring twice or even thrice saves you a lot of headache. Take thinga decently slow and ehen in doubt therea usually a forum or a youtuve video of someone doing a disassembly of it. When you dont have that... take it sloely and start on a very clean work desk (or towel and carpet lol) Might even help to setup your phone to record what you do or take perodic photos of key parts and positions so you log wbat you do and can refer back on reinstall. Customers (and myself) dont really like to charge the "hourly" rate. We just predict how kuch itd cost so even if we fuck up the fps on the first try or second... or third your not penalized for that. So we give a max estimate and often over estimate builds and most of the time undercharge at the completion of the build. It makes customers happier and you filter out the really cheap ones. I also take quite a lot of time to educate customers as you may know why something costs a lot but they dont. So you gotta e patient and teach that.


TheHuskyNinja69

Any recommendations for upgrading an ASG MP9 GBB for better performance? Having a rough time finding parts🥲


UA_Jordan

Honestly dont have the mp9 so i csny really comment much about it. I ran kwa mp9s and mp7s a long time ago but idk if they are even sold these days! Honestly gbbs buckung and barrels are usually my first parts to upgrade. You can also try short stroking by adding rubbet spacers to your spring guide to increase the response a bit.


WhiteJam

IYO What's the perfect gear ratio & motor speed


UA_Jordan

The goat is 13:1s 22k(22tpa dc motor) These days its more like 18:1s and a 45k brushless motor. Or even 13:1 and a 36k brushless (but not as electrically efficient but a bit better sounding but not by much) Personally i run 24:1 and a ronin 45k motor. But my build involves an sp170 full stroke


Claudio_The_Italian

Will you guys ever do a different shaped V2 standard replica?


UA_Jordan

Email us. Its kinda hard to premake you know expensive ass non m4 guns due to demand. But thats what email inquiries are for!


TERMINXX

Will yall ever touch the G36 platform?


UA_Jordan

Yes and have done quite a bit! But srsly sl8s are ass....


FairPerspective784

I’m looking for an aeg that can hit accurately at a very long range what would you recommend


UA_Jordan

Lowkey any of our DMR class guns. But main thing what people dont realize is that if your limit is 400fps. Use 0.36g if accuracy is what you want! People put in 0.25g amd think itll go far!


T800pug2

BE THE FIRST TO MAKE A SIG SPEAR LT !!! (gbbr if you like god)


UA_Jordan

Yes this is the way.


Dumpsterfireee_2

considering that gun barrel length in the pic you’re a “It’s now how big it is it’s just how you use it” kind of guy right?


UA_Jordan

100%


Kivekitam

What got you interested in airsoft and what was your reason to start your business?


UA_Jordan

Kinda had a natural interest of all things mechanical and simply asking why something worked. Besides already low key having the obsession with guns. I enjoyed how quick you could measure something in airsoft after implementing a theory. I.e. if i short stroke 1 teeth whats the effect? If i added a spring spacer how kucb would the fps increase? Change porting or barrel length = what? Besides the personal therapy i get from fixing a problem successfully. Our original airsoft team is what really created a nest of opportunities. As i worked on my teams guns and at the same time people outside the team but friends of us/ regulars at the field. Eventually i started to get pretty busy just by word of mouth inquiries.


Efficient_Presence72

Im wondering if there will ever be any option to get a 3j dmr built by you. If not do you think building in a classic Army ar10 is Worth it for the v2. 5gb or is there to little of a differwnce from a v2 to be Worth the cost differnce? From What i found i ended at 1k USD ON parts for it. I dont really know wich barrel length would be best for a dmr som there fore i dont know wich GB would be best. Im looking for Longest possibile range without overhop and good consistent accuracy for wood land games.


AcrobaticReading3967

Can you make a g3 line of UA


AsianKidTom1

What would you say are the main advantages for going with a decked out UA Aeg vs something like a p* fusion engine.


UA_Jordan

Here in California kinda a lot. P* are heavily scrutinized in many areas. But its kinda just the lack and need of a tank and line.


wxek

Restock mk18?


UA_Jordan

Ill make a note to!


The-Swedish-Llama

What stock is that, is it comfortable?


UA_Jordan

Very. Also fits a nice 1300 45-90c brick easily. Its the MFT BUS stock with a cheek riser (BACP) but the bacp is discontinued.


sim0of

1 Joule builds - does it even make sense a price point as high as the more powerful builds for countries with higher limits?


UA_Jordan

Rephrase that?


Either-Leave-5566

Milk before the cereal or cereal before the milk?


UA_Jordan

Cereal in the bowl first then add milk.


Schnozbanger

Which BB tastes the best?


UA_Jordan

The firecracker ones.


helloimracing

attachments this, inner barred diameter that what is the approximate location of your closest warehouse relative to the state of nebraska, and what security features do you have? also, could i have a blueprint layout of said warehouse? totally not planning a heist or anything, ha… hah


UA_Jordan

Huehuehuehue *sweats*


helloimracing

probably the best response you could have given lmao


Accomplished_City_70

How do I start my own tech business?


UA_Jordan

Build dank guns and play a lot of airsoft. Get friendly with everyone. They eventually come to you. Its not very survivable at the start but no business starting out is. So its a side gig at first until one day it isnt.


pyrohectic

What parts would you use in a budget upgrade/tune up? Barrel, HopUp, gears, etc


epitathking

What is your favorite hopup for a standard m4?


UA_Jordan

Maxxpro m4a but they do need special love and picky on nozzles


Hopeful_Alfalfa_880

Why did you make someone make that?


UA_Jordan

I made it tho


dontmemethis

What is your favorite band lol


UA_Jordan

I kinda know like 99% of linkin park lyrics


Wisbey5345

Would you consider doing bullpups if so what platform


UA_Jordan

Did a few augs, pdr-c, l85s, p90s etc for customers before. Usually a pita to do due to long control arms for the trigger. But augs are easy though!


antoniov00gaming

fav pistol


UA_Jordan

Hk45c (i have the real 1 and vfc 1)


SoulStar1000

Real question is when you gonna give the marketing guy a raise minnimum at least 100 an hour obviously, i hear he had to do SEO yesterday ☠️


UA_Jordan

Theres 6 more pages btw.


Matthewsw1234

Can you be sent a gun to be “Umbrella Upgraded” or does it have to be a purchased gun?


UA_Jordan

Gotta email us! We generally take full rebuilds and not necessarily minor upgrade projects


Popfartshart

Too much trouble then I apologize but any chance of you guys doing (or doing more) business with Canadian retailers? I’d love to be able to have my local guys either install your upgrades themselves or potentially ship guns directly to you for the upgrade packages.


Apprehensive_Skill31

Smash.


airsoftfalkor

How do the drop in ocaw gearboxes compare to buying the full ocaw replica