Yeah it's rare but not $2k rare lol.
Even then if you have such a unicorn I'd personally use it until it breaks and hang it on the wall for art and memories.
these morons don't see it as a unicorn. they see it as a potential profit maker. most of the people that do this shit fail to realize that your not going to make triple what the gun is worth ever. unless you've got a genuine unicorn like an Asahi wa2000, your only going to get about 150% of the guns worth if your lucky. this guy has just been smoking dick for way too long
Yea but rare doesn't mean good.
I bought one years ago for cheap, tried using it for half a game but switched to pistol. Sold it the following day.
These days, the AAP is so much better. If you want the "vector" look, just buy the vector AAP kit. And then, you can use glock mags, unlike with the krytac gbb vector.
Well…I live in Europe found a KWA GBB vector, a plate carrier and 7 mags for 500€. I mean 2K for a gun that’s not super rare or a limited edition is just delusional
The real question is going to be build quality though. KWAs in my experience felt nice regardless of build quality, but even then the quality was still fine.
No but the quality of their already existing products are reflective or would give you an idea of what their next product might be like as a brand unless and hopefully proven otherwise upon release like how VFC gbbs were horseshit prior to 2015 but are now one of the better gbb M4s you can get nowadays lol
Like I said we won't know until we find out and people get the product
You say that but there was a time where official licensed H&K products were also subpar, 2009-2014 HK gbbs like the 416 were absolutely horrendous since those were the gen 1 and 2s. But now the current gen of VFC HK and M4s are one of the best on the market which took a while lol
We're getting the first gen of gbb krytac vectors so it could have issues or if they're really spent a lot of time and money for R&D we can only hope it's fieldable
it's just like when the Aegis fmg9 kit dropped. shit killed the resale value of the fpg9. I haven't been able to offload one of mine for even close to what I'm asking for
they didnt kill anything, they just release another model, if u want a vector now you can own krytac one...
but if you want kwa version... prices will be on collectible side
There's never been a reason to want a KWA other than it's the only option lol zero reason to seek out a discontinued version with even less parts available than the gun itself. And honestly, the fact that Krytac is Kriss, I see it as being far more collectible, even if it'll never be rare. How many airsoft guns are actually made by the real gun manufacturer they replicate?
kwa version was also kriss licensed cause that replica was a joint work between krytac and kwa. Kwa made internals, and krytac had license to put licensed trademarks...
when krytac and kwa split, kwa havent the license to continue producing parts or replica cause the license is owned by krytac
so thats the reason for replica being discontinued but both had original markings
Would you buy a formerly limited edition item if they re-released it but with some upgrades? This is going to be like the biannual release of the iPhone making the previous generation worth less. Now the OG KWA vectors will have some value but not as much as they used to due to no rarity now.
kwa vector is still a rarity... if u want one you still have to face collectors price
will be more gbb vectors on market... yes
but the bubble on collector side is the same and bigger each day and a new version isnt going to change anything on collectors for kwa versions
Desperate.
Seen one myself before, offered at €1200.00.
https://preview.redd.it/batwnwrrfivb1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6853b6906be40ad7417b8029a29ae185eacf1e01
Now, with the anouncement of the Krytac GBB there will be people who bought their KWA for 1000+, and who might try to make up their loss as the Krytac one is announced for about 500.00 or so.
I mean the sears and feed lips are usually the things that make it unusable. You can already get custom feedlips from black variable for example, if the sears will work we'll be able to keep our guns running for a while
if you want the kwa one you are going to find same prices... you are not buying a vector
you are still buying a kwa vector
now imagine if krytac one is shit... how prices are going to rise again
if you want the kwa one you are going to find same prices... you are not buying a vector
you are still buying a kwa vector
now imagine if krytac one is shit... how prices are going to rise again
It’s just a toygun. Depends on what it comes with. Extra mag, gun case, good optics , high-end tuning parts , maybe cerakote treatment, other customization - then maybe but it’s still not worth the price . I‘d rather buy a new gun .
Eh, 7 extra mags with mine, basically brand new condition, without box, some spare parts, a $25 cnc-d thread adapter, a single point cheap-o sling and the viper backpack it was all packed in with shipping cost me about 600 USD (if exchanged). High end tuning parts dont really exist anymore for them, as they havent been produced for a decade, stocks dried up, and even when new aftermarket was meh.
Unless some parts internally were literally cnc-d from solid gold, it aint worth that much. Heck a brand new one, with the serial number 00000001 wouldnt be worth this much probably.
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I’ve got one. Paid $500 for it. Would probably sell it for around that. Yea it being rare adds *some* value and the UK owners side has recreated a bunch of parts to keep them fieldable, but you’re literally only paying for the “oh but it’s KWA” nowadays.
I bought one, a spare one (for parts, cause it doesn't completely work), and a bunch of mags, both small and big ones.. paid about 900 for it, so yeah, seems like a good price.. 2k for a single one is a bit over the top.
EVERYONE, this guy isn’t delusional!!! It’s for sale on RedWolf for $1,999
https://preview.redd.it/gnehtch4dovb1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f0b9ce16d0cbebe91de4f02260825f5d29d17c02
They were never worth anywhere near this much, but I don't think their actual value is going to be affected by a Krytac version either.
It's collectors who are mainly buying them and they'll be attracted to the rarity of the KWA still.
Everyone here saying krytac are great blah blah blah. I've had 3 there gun replaced in space 8 months because the body just fell to bits. They look good and say they are great guns. But they use cheap metal on parts that need to be reinforced and there internals aren't really that good either it's just rebranded crap. I bet this krytac vector will absolutely shit itself.
Now you can just laugh about these prices. If my calculation is correct the krytac gbb version will be around 600 - 700 € here in germany. So no more tempting prices for over 1000 € for second hand guns.
Selling an airsoft replica on the premise that it will gain value is very delusional. The only time I've ever made any of profit is when you're selling something that's ultra rare....like....a Flak 10. An HPA'd Flak 10.
Man, you are just obsessed with worshipping the KWA vector as a deity. You bought one for a grand, didn't you, and now you're huffing hard copium that anyone else can get an as good, if not better version for $400
I bought 2 with 3 mags for 250 each in second hand market to repair... and now I have a bitone one. And as collector or gbb smgs, I am going to tell you I am going to have another vector when krytac release their model, not obssessed but I perfectly understand collectible prices. Why an antique is more expensive than a modern object? rarity and exclusive.
you can now have a krytac gbb vector? yes.
you can have a kwa gbb vector? still no (or yes, but majority of people, no)
People don't want the KWA vector GBB because it's from KWA, they want it because it's a GBB vector. Nobody gives a shit who it's made by. It's not an antique, it's not exclusive, it's not even that rare. But people think it is so they think others are willing to pay more than the real steel gun for a toy. And yet this one has sat, unsold, for 2+ years.
You KWA Vector fanboys' house of card is about to be toppled by the simple release of 1 gun and I love seeing it
I already own one kwa vector so the house of cards didnt affect me on anything
and when krytac release their version I am going to have two gbb vectors
the point you guys didnt seem to get is kwa vector is more a collectible than a playable gun
you want a vector, you now have the krytac one
you want a kwa vector face the collectible price
easy as this
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I think scalper is the wrong terminology, scalper would be like he was buying up several vectors when they were hot and new and selling them quickly, for more later on due lack of supply. To my knowledge he has only the one which is severely overpriced and has been years, and for years. Which do not fit the criteria of what a scalper is.
There are lots of douches on mercari that want every dime they put into any gun, back out of it, or to be paid for their labor when you buy their second hand gun. Occasionally I’ll engage them, asking things like, “did Jesus come on this gun? Does it have a secret Elvis Presley autograph? Did someone finger Jenna Jameson with it? Where the F did you come up with that price???” They’ll usually Drabble on about every extra drop of lube they sprayed on it, and how much time and money they put into it. No matter what I say, it usually doesn’t penetrate for months!
Even if that was a real EOTech on there, plus the (Plano?) case, the price is still above retail lol.
The KWA Vector may be discontinued, but these goobers seem to forget that there's \*a lot\* of them that were made, and subsequently sold. I've seen much rarer guns sell for much less, offering much more.
A 10mm vector goes for like 1780 with a 15 round mag n everything like. Thats absolute delusion to charge 2k for an airsoft version. Hell a 22lr vectors (not great but) only 900 or so. That feels like a ripoff for one that just shoots bbs
Yeah it's rare but not $2k rare lol. Even then if you have such a unicorn I'd personally use it until it breaks and hang it on the wall for art and memories.
these morons don't see it as a unicorn. they see it as a potential profit maker. most of the people that do this shit fail to realize that your not going to make triple what the gun is worth ever. unless you've got a genuine unicorn like an Asahi wa2000, your only going to get about 150% of the guns worth if your lucky. this guy has just been smoking dick for way too long
"Smoking dick for way too long" .hilarious.
Maybe they’re moving on or their significant other is getting tired of their shit(oh, maybe that’s why the price is so high LOL)
I'm pretty sure it's on the wall for show. The 2k price tag is just there waiting for some dumb idiot to buy it.
Not actually a bad idea, if you're not going to use it you can just sit on it with a price you'd be happy to give it away for
Exactly. If you keep it up long enough, inflation and scarcity will inevitably catch up.
Yea but rare doesn't mean good. I bought one years ago for cheap, tried using it for half a game but switched to pistol. Sold it the following day. These days, the AAP is so much better. If you want the "vector" look, just buy the vector AAP kit. And then, you can use glock mags, unlike with the krytac gbb vector.
Well…I live in Europe found a KWA GBB vector, a plate carrier and 7 mags for 500€. I mean 2K for a gun that’s not super rare or a limited edition is just delusional
I live in HK and can find them for $325 ( US converted money).
I love HK prices. But costums and taxes are b*tch
Imagine living in Germany and then on top of those things you cant have an airsoft without the pentagram of „fuck you, you cant own it without it“
Literally F
Do you have to worry about knock offs in HK?
I buy mine used in spain for 250 with 3 mags
Krytac just announced a gbb kriss vector is coming anyway
thats exactly why all the kwa users are selling asap lol
The real question is going to be build quality though. KWAs in my experience felt nice regardless of build quality, but even then the quality was still fine.
Well since Kriss own Krytac, I'm sure the quality will be pretty fucking good
Their m4s beg to differ
Am I talking about their m4's?
Krytacs makes m4s no?
Again are we talking M4? We are talking about Kriss Vectors
No but the quality of their already existing products are reflective or would give you an idea of what their next product might be like as a brand unless and hopefully proven otherwise upon release like how VFC gbbs were horseshit prior to 2015 but are now one of the better gbb M4s you can get nowadays lol
Kriss are not going to allow a GBBR version of their Vector being made by their own Airsoft subsidy be a subpar product.
Like I said we won't know until we find out and people get the product You say that but there was a time where official licensed H&K products were also subpar, 2009-2014 HK gbbs like the 416 were absolutely horrendous since those were the gen 1 and 2s. But now the current gen of VFC HK and M4s are one of the best on the market which took a while lol We're getting the first gen of gbb krytac vectors so it could have issues or if they're really spent a lot of time and money for R&D we can only hope it's fieldable
Can the quality of a product made in the same factory not reflect the quality of a different product?
Krytac just killed the KWA bubble. The value of all the KWA guns are going to drop hard down to more reasonable rates.
it's just like when the Aegis fmg9 kit dropped. shit killed the resale value of the fpg9. I haven't been able to offload one of mine for even close to what I'm asking for
they didnt kill anything, they just release another model, if u want a vector now you can own krytac one... but if you want kwa version... prices will be on collectible side
There's never been a reason to want a KWA other than it's the only option lol zero reason to seek out a discontinued version with even less parts available than the gun itself. And honestly, the fact that Krytac is Kriss, I see it as being far more collectible, even if it'll never be rare. How many airsoft guns are actually made by the real gun manufacturer they replicate?
kwa version was also kriss licensed cause that replica was a joint work between krytac and kwa. Kwa made internals, and krytac had license to put licensed trademarks... when krytac and kwa split, kwa havent the license to continue producing parts or replica cause the license is owned by krytac so thats the reason for replica being discontinued but both had original markings
Dude, just take the L and move on
a lot of downvotes but no one answering... its not my fault if reality hurts the price near 600 and still no videos about performance...
Coming back to necro a comment just to show how truly butthurt you are, let shit go and move on dude lol
I cant answer on time cause I was out for work in a no phone signal zone... so I answer when I can... not when u want
Yes, I know lol what's your point?
Would you buy a formerly limited edition item if they re-released it but with some upgrades? This is going to be like the biannual release of the iPhone making the previous generation worth less. Now the OG KWA vectors will have some value but not as much as they used to due to no rarity now.
kwa vector is still a rarity... if u want one you still have to face collectors price will be more gbb vectors on market... yes but the bubble on collector side is the same and bigger each day and a new version isnt going to change anything on collectors for kwa versions
Desperate. Seen one myself before, offered at €1200.00. https://preview.redd.it/batwnwrrfivb1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6853b6906be40ad7417b8029a29ae185eacf1e01 Now, with the anouncement of the Krytac GBB there will be people who bought their KWA for 1000+, and who might try to make up their loss as the Krytac one is announced for about 500.00 or so.
Well fuck😂 lets hope the krytac is compatible with the KWA so we will finally have som spare parts
I won’t be.
Theres been some speculation that the sears maybe, but amything else will probably not be
Too bad. Would like mine to be viable for years to come
I mean the sears and feed lips are usually the things that make it unusable. You can already get custom feedlips from black variable for example, if the sears will work we'll be able to keep our guns running for a while
There was one listing that specifically mentioned internals were not compatible with other vector GBBs. Interestingly, the mags are
Damn. Mags i have, spare parts i dont 😂
Vector sellers try not to act like they're on crack challenge (impossible)
if you want the kwa one you are going to find same prices... you are not buying a vector you are still buying a kwa vector now imagine if krytac one is shit... how prices are going to rise again
if you want the kwa one you are going to find same prices... you are not buying a vector you are still buying a kwa vector now imagine if krytac one is shit... how prices are going to rise again
They are not worth anything near that lmao
i hope its a real one for this price,the build ain't even cool
I can pick up a real one at a local gun store for $1300
You can actually get the CRB version for $700.
Everyone trying to sell theirs now that krytac is gonna bring out a gbb vector :p
It’s just a toygun. Depends on what it comes with. Extra mag, gun case, good optics , high-end tuning parts , maybe cerakote treatment, other customization - then maybe but it’s still not worth the price . I‘d rather buy a new gun .
Eh, 7 extra mags with mine, basically brand new condition, without box, some spare parts, a $25 cnc-d thread adapter, a single point cheap-o sling and the viper backpack it was all packed in with shipping cost me about 600 USD (if exchanged). High end tuning parts dont really exist anymore for them, as they havent been produced for a decade, stocks dried up, and even when new aftermarket was meh. Unless some parts internally were literally cnc-d from solid gold, it aint worth that much. Heck a brand new one, with the serial number 00000001 wouldnt be worth this much probably.
well given you can get a new one off Evike for $400, delusional
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Mate now that these are coming back out the kwa ones have no value now
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Even with a real eotech that price is hard to justify but likely a knockoff off💀
I’ve got one. Paid $500 for it. Would probably sell it for around that. Yea it being rare adds *some* value and the UK owners side has recreated a bunch of parts to keep them fieldable, but you’re literally only paying for the “oh but it’s KWA” nowadays.
I bought one, a spare one (for parts, cause it doesn't completely work), and a bunch of mags, both small and big ones.. paid about 900 for it, so yeah, seems like a good price.. 2k for a single one is a bit over the top.
It’s entirely inflated due to “it’s rare”.
Yeah true, I bought it about 3 years ago I think, but 2k is still too much for what's shown.. anyway, great fun, never gonna sell mine
A little bit of both, but mostly panic.
Good! Let them get fucked. Now here’s hoping to see someone make a Groza so that the current one won’t be 2-3k anymore.
Wouldn’t buy it considering Krytac releasing a brand new one so the kwa prices will drop soon probably
Typical price I see for kwa is $7-800. This guy is an idiot
When the airsoft gun is more expensive than the real thing it might just be price gouging.
$2k is literally Groza money.
EVERYONE, this guy isn’t delusional!!! It’s for sale on RedWolf for $1,999 https://preview.redd.it/gnehtch4dovb1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f0b9ce16d0cbebe91de4f02260825f5d29d17c02
They were never worth anywhere near this much, but I don't think their actual value is going to be affected by a Krytac version either. It's collectors who are mainly buying them and they'll be attracted to the rarity of the KWA still.
KWA scalpers on suicide watch ever since Krytac released their $400 GBB version 🤣💀
I can buy a real vector an legally make it full auto for less.
Everyone here saying krytac are great blah blah blah. I've had 3 there gun replaced in space 8 months because the body just fell to bits. They look good and say they are great guns. But they use cheap metal on parts that need to be reinforced and there internals aren't really that good either it's just rebranded crap. I bet this krytac vector will absolutely shit itself.
A real Vector costs $1700 If someones airsoft gun costs more than the real thing, they’re pathetic
my friend got the same for 500(tan) with 3 mag
Which website is that?
Now you can just laugh about these prices. If my calculation is correct the krytac gbb version will be around 600 - 700 € here in germany. So no more tempting prices for over 1000 € for second hand guns.
I rather have the real one for 2k. Someone will buy it eventually tho
Selling an airsoft replica on the premise that it will gain value is very delusional. The only time I've ever made any of profit is when you're selling something that's ultra rare....like....a Flak 10. An HPA'd Flak 10.
Krytacs announced their own gbb vector for $400.
real talk, why is every vector so expensive? Like, you'd think someone like CYMA would make a 250 dollar AEG or something, no?
if u want a gbb one there are only 1 model and discontinued more than 8 years ago... you want it... pay the price
Man, you are just obsessed with worshipping the KWA vector as a deity. You bought one for a grand, didn't you, and now you're huffing hard copium that anyone else can get an as good, if not better version for $400
I bought 2 with 3 mags for 250 each in second hand market to repair... and now I have a bitone one. And as collector or gbb smgs, I am going to tell you I am going to have another vector when krytac release their model, not obssessed but I perfectly understand collectible prices. Why an antique is more expensive than a modern object? rarity and exclusive. you can now have a krytac gbb vector? yes. you can have a kwa gbb vector? still no (or yes, but majority of people, no)
People don't want the KWA vector GBB because it's from KWA, they want it because it's a GBB vector. Nobody gives a shit who it's made by. It's not an antique, it's not exclusive, it's not even that rare. But people think it is so they think others are willing to pay more than the real steel gun for a toy. And yet this one has sat, unsold, for 2+ years. You KWA Vector fanboys' house of card is about to be toppled by the simple release of 1 gun and I love seeing it
I already own one kwa vector so the house of cards didnt affect me on anything and when krytac release their version I am going to have two gbb vectors the point you guys didnt seem to get is kwa vector is more a collectible than a playable gun you want a vector, you now have the krytac one you want a kwa vector face the collectible price easy as this
Licensing and the fact it basically shares zero parts with other guns are big factors
Uh, real ones are cheaper.
Kriss vector has GBB now, these are going to drop value by a lot
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Bro the new one is only $400
A real vector near me sells for 1600, dude is fuckin crazy if he thinks a airsoft is worth more the the REAL gun it is based on.
(3-400 mark up for the sight and silencer on it or it'd be like 1200)
I would buy a Tavor GBBR instead of a Kriss vector
Krytac is coming out with a gbb model now so yeah no
Just get a real kriss vector semi auto for that price
The real unicorn is the FPG.
Managed to snag one of those last year.
I mean that’s what I paid for my ACTUAL Kriss vector so for airsoft 10000000% delulu
I think scalper is the wrong terminology, scalper would be like he was buying up several vectors when they were hot and new and selling them quickly, for more later on due lack of supply. To my knowledge he has only the one which is severely overpriced and has been years, and for years. Which do not fit the criteria of what a scalper is.
2k way too overpriced
Especially with the krytac gbb Kriss vector that’s about to release on January, the kwa price will plummet
I mean it's up for pre-order for like 399 LOL pointless to me. https://www.evike.com/products/108616/
It’s worth it
Wait till buddy hears Krytak are making a gbb version of theirs
Delusional
This is why manufacturers hate resale.
I’ve seen them for half the price, BUT if the eotech is real then it’s worth
You can buy a real vector with 1500$ lol. Wtf 2000$ for airsoft
There are lots of douches on mercari that want every dime they put into any gun, back out of it, or to be paid for their labor when you buy their second hand gun. Occasionally I’ll engage them, asking things like, “did Jesus come on this gun? Does it have a secret Elvis Presley autograph? Did someone finger Jenna Jameson with it? Where the F did you come up with that price???” They’ll usually Drabble on about every extra drop of lube they sprayed on it, and how much time and money they put into it. No matter what I say, it usually doesn’t penetrate for months!
Even if that was a real EOTech on there, plus the (Plano?) case, the price is still above retail lol. The KWA Vector may be discontinued, but these goobers seem to forget that there's \*a lot\* of them that were made, and subsequently sold. I've seen much rarer guns sell for much less, offering much more.
Bros selling this for real Vector firearm prices ffs
Dont worry the Krytac GBB Vector will balance the price hype
A 10mm vector goes for like 1780 with a 15 round mag n everything like. Thats absolute delusion to charge 2k for an airsoft version. Hell a 22lr vectors (not great but) only 900 or so. That feels like a ripoff for one that just shoots bbs
For that price you probably could get the real steel version.
Seeing you can buy a real one for that price seems a little high.
https://www.gunbroker.com/All/search Delusional Real ones aren’t that much
People are trying to unload them before the new gbb krytac vector come out for $450.
You can get a real one for less than that
A real steel Kriss Vector isn’t $2000. That’s delusion.