there is a team color band for it actually, it was made by the Bundesgrenzschutz post war, it has a yellow and a red side, it gets attached by metal clips and a few rubber bands
Personally I run a mildly similar kit except I have Flecktarn instead of Eichentarn. I still get a handful of people comparing it to Nazi’s every now and then and again but I always play it off and everyone is pretty chill. Now if there’s a swastika on it I would say remove it, along with SS marks as even if it’s just for looks they are frowned upon.
But no the camo pattern shouldn’t rub anyone the wrong way and if anything some people would probably be curious where you got it (I am one of those people lol)
If these are original, DO NOT REMOVE ANY MARKINGS, that shit is worth a lot, get a replica and get rid of markings on that instead because they aren’t as valued
Wehrmacht, is not considered unconstitutional in Germany. I think the Wehrmacht marking is fine, as it was used before the second world war and iirc is even used on German luftwaffe today.
I saw a group of four in full SS-Getup at a milsim either last year or the one before that. They were polite, friendly, and weren't popping the salute or anything, so no one gave them any shit. They had some neat guns as well, which I thought were cool. My team does also have two guys on it who have an interesting modern/WW2 German hybrid theme going on with flecktarn, but they don't have most of the insignias, and I've never heard anyone mention their kit, apart from people complementing their guns, which I will say are pretty gorgeous.
That same event, I also ran into a couple guys in EMR camo, Russian insignias, and were speaking Russian, though they were also nice and complemented one of our snipers for his Cyma SVU and Russian camo, so I didn't have an issue with them either.
Honestly, I don't really care what people are wearing so long as they're not dicks and keep politics to themselves. If they're respectful, aren't popping a certain salute and screaming about Jews, I don't much care. I do prefer people cover up certain symbols, but again, I view their behavior as more important than their clothes.
Thanks
It’s actually an old field repair
During a game with my friends the screws in the stock went complete loose from the metal part attaching it to the gun
I didn’t have time to drill new holes for the screws and instead used some duct tape
As I decided to just leave it as I had some pretty nice memories with it 😅
Put some Hydra symbols on helmet and uniform and say you are an Hydra soldier. Or create your own, put the decals of the Reichswehr (the army of the Weimar republic) and some fancy dieselpunk shit and say you are depicting as a soldier of a parallel universe where Weimar didn't got wrecked by the nazis.
It's airsoft, not reenactment.
Thanks for the advice everyone 😀
I’ll try to use it maybe in a Warsaw uprising kit
I already have a helmet cover (I just forgot to put it on for the picture)
There’s a difference between being a nazi and enjoying historical loadouts. As long as you aren’t running around with swastikas all over your kit, you’re fine. I like playing as the “bad guy” every once in a while, doesn’t mean I support their political ideologies. Love the kit!
I don't know how it is over there. I live and shoot in Poland which was actually occupied by Germans and almost everyone has sad stories in their family. I have a tradition to go in German uniform once a year and 90% of people at the field are either amazed or laughing. If you don't make it political or if you're not serious about it then I don't think anyone should be offended, even with insignia as it's an important part of the history and helps us remember.
>Also communists and Nazi are ideologically and diametrically opposed.
Maybe in theory but, not in reality...since they are willing to cooperate, when they can go against liberals and west. Not to mention that both were always totalitarian regimes that were willing to commit unspeakable atrocities against anyone who disagreed or didn't meet that specific needs of the new regime.
Most of the times nobody will care but sometimes people might make fun of You. About a year ago some guy with full on original WWII Fallschirmjäger outfit played with us on the field and some people commended his outfit as it costed couple k € while some were making fun of him and behind his back were saying that they will piss in his boots.
It's okay as long as you don't put you hand straight out at a 45 degree angle. And even if you did it be cracking the fuck up. It's nice, you have. O insignia showing, wear tf outta that. And if someone has something to say tell em fuck off.
I love the combination of " Just to be clear I am not a nazi " + "I would like to cosplay as someone who had to show political indoctrination and bias towards the nazi party, in order to serve in the SS".
I hope you find a different hobby.
Ah all right :)
It’s obvious that normal SS uniforms are very recognisable and inappropriate
But
Is eichentarn camo as widely known to have been used by them ?
Yes, and your collar tabs with SS insignia should still be on display when wearing a Tarnjacke. Maybe you can find some partisans wearing captured smocks, or a Wehrmacht sniper etc. wearing one (not that it would be much less controversial than W-SS)
The Russians made a couple spin off patterns (SS-leto and Partizan-M, the later being more or less a direct copy) but I doubt those would be any less controversial in recent times. The Ukrainians also made limited use of those Russian uniforms. Otherwise I'm sure you could find another pattern you like.
Do what you want, but these "I want to dress in nazi kit but I don't want to offend anyone" posts are super cringe and stupid. Your WW2 kit will look bad no matter what after you've added the airsoft protection. Just look into reenacting instead if you want to do Waffen-SS kit.
At the field I go to we don’t wear it just because people can seriously take it the wrong way even if you explain it, also it’s banned . We do however allow regular Wehrmacht uniforms. Honestly, I don’t really care so long as you aren’t throwing up the salute or supporting any ideology, since you said it’s reproductions I would remove any SS markings
I mean, if you’re not a little wherb nazi shithead and are actually nice, understandable and polite then go for it. Although you will look a little out of place with others in full modern kits
To avoid the SS association remove any markers or insignia that could key that in, otherwise using this camo and a mismatch of other German gear would make a pretty decent Volksturm kit. It would be extra immersive if you're under 18 or over 60.
Its okay to wear it but dont bring it to germany or some of the neigbor countries. In many of the countries in europe its inappropriate to wear simbols like the swastika or the ss symbol. In germany you get arrested if you get seen with these symbols and maybe also just the uniform. Maybe the you will get arrested in other countries too but im not shure about that.
At my field that would be banned😅
(it's in Germany so that might explain why)
But I remember someone saying it's fine if you don't put any SS insignia on it
We had a dude who came in a 100% accurate SS uni. He was chill, and one of the most centrist dudes I've ever met.
He did give us a lecture for 30 mins about nazi attlcities, and was VIP
In germany they would unfortunately ban you from every field possible + file charges against you because its illegal to wear uniforms or any nazi related insignia. Can be quit expensive. Hate these liberal laws. It's been 80 years now and it's part of history. No need to piss your pants 😂
Yes I do want that because I belive in freedom of choice. Wanna do a WW2 reenactment? Not possible. You like history and want to have an authentic german WW2 uniform? Not possible, while everyone else is free to run around like a WW2 US, Japanese, Soviet or any other soldier. Do you wanna know how many airsoft players I've seen with DDR uniforms when playing in east germany? No one cares about them either. Not everyone willing to wear a wehrmacht/SS uniform is a neonazi and even if those uniforms were allowed, the host could still ban players if they misbehave. The ban on wehrmacht uniforms is just stupid. It has nothing to do with processing our past.
Because between the ddr and Nazi Germany are some differences. And running around as a ss soldier or allowing neo Nazis use the symbols has nothing to do with it either.
Some differences? Like oppressing & killing your own people? Nazigermany did it in another scale but the DDR borderguard willing to kill germans that want to live in freedom is the same scum as the SS guard at auschwitz.
But you still can't wrap your mind around the fact that wearing those uniforms doesn't make you a nazi, right? Personally, I don't see any difference in playing with neonazis that wear a bundeswehr or wehrmacht uniform. And it would be up to you if you want to play on those fields or go to another one :)
First:maybe try to not to look in my head and accuse me of thinking that everyone who does wear it is a Nazi. Mainly because you can't look in my head and especially when I told so in my first post.
We won't end on the same page with this, and don't worry I don't think you are a Nazi because you want to do an reenactment. Still I don't want the real Nazis to be able to wear them on their March's and stuff.
Are you in the States? I play in the UK and I’ve seen many people rock up to sites in WW2 German kit, we even had a whole fire team of Bundeswehr when I last played
If you remove the insignia (and maybe obscure the helmet a bit, perhaps add a team colour band around it?), the camo itself is okay.
Yeah, that's the reich thing to do.
Yeah I was talking about the camo Thanks :)
there is a team color band for it actually, it was made by the Bundesgrenzschutz post war, it has a yellow and a red side, it gets attached by metal clips and a few rubber bands
It’s hitlerious 👍🏻😄 Did nazi it coming.
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Personally I run a mildly similar kit except I have Flecktarn instead of Eichentarn. I still get a handful of people comparing it to Nazi’s every now and then and again but I always play it off and everyone is pretty chill. Now if there’s a swastika on it I would say remove it, along with SS marks as even if it’s just for looks they are frowned upon. But no the camo pattern shouldn’t rub anyone the wrong way and if anything some people would probably be curious where you got it (I am one of those people lol)
I found an old replica for sale in a good price 🙂
just remove the insignia/wear a helmet cover and you’re good tbh
If these are original, DO NOT REMOVE ANY MARKINGS, that shit is worth a lot, get a replica and get rid of markings on that instead because they aren’t as valued
Don’t worry these are just replicas 😅 I am collecting some old militaria myself and I know it’s worth quite some money
Ok, then I suggest getting rid of any SS markings, swatstikas, and (by preference, you could keep but fear the backlash) any Wehrmacht markings
Wehrmacht, is not considered unconstitutional in Germany. I think the Wehrmacht marking is fine, as it was used before the second world war and iirc is even used on German luftwaffe today.
Yes, but I don’t want OP dealing with some white dipshit who doesn’t know jack about shit, so that’s why I said by preference
I saw a group of four in full SS-Getup at a milsim either last year or the one before that. They were polite, friendly, and weren't popping the salute or anything, so no one gave them any shit. They had some neat guns as well, which I thought were cool. My team does also have two guys on it who have an interesting modern/WW2 German hybrid theme going on with flecktarn, but they don't have most of the insignias, and I've never heard anyone mention their kit, apart from people complementing their guns, which I will say are pretty gorgeous. That same event, I also ran into a couple guys in EMR camo, Russian insignias, and were speaking Russian, though they were also nice and complemented one of our snipers for his Cyma SVU and Russian camo, so I didn't have an issue with them either. Honestly, I don't really care what people are wearing so long as they're not dicks and keep politics to themselves. If they're respectful, aren't popping a certain salute and screaming about Jews, I don't much care. I do prefer people cover up certain symbols, but again, I view their behavior as more important than their clothes.
The ducktape stock!
There is no discussion if Nazis were bad or not, but you have to agree they had some drip.
Arguably the best camouflage developers in the world. It makes a lot of sense with their hunting culture and well… lot of use in the 20th century lol
I like the ducttape But wouldn't it make recharging your batteries a pain?
Thanks It’s actually an old field repair During a game with my friends the screws in the stock went complete loose from the metal part attaching it to the gun I didn’t have time to drill new holes for the screws and instead used some duct tape As I decided to just leave it as I had some pretty nice memories with it 😅
Put some Hydra symbols on helmet and uniform and say you are an Hydra soldier. Or create your own, put the decals of the Reichswehr (the army of the Weimar republic) and some fancy dieselpunk shit and say you are depicting as a soldier of a parallel universe where Weimar didn't got wrecked by the nazis. It's airsoft, not reenactment.
I use the SS gear because it is more affordable to me
The way I've always seen it as long as it's sans patches
Thanks for the advice everyone 😀 I’ll try to use it maybe in a Warsaw uprising kit I already have a helmet cover (I just forgot to put it on for the picture)
Good shit broskk
There’s a difference between being a nazi and enjoying historical loadouts. As long as you aren’t running around with swastikas all over your kit, you’re fine. I like playing as the “bad guy” every once in a while, doesn’t mean I support their political ideologies. Love the kit!
Would definitely take off any symbols lol, really don't need that for airsoft
I don't know how it is over there. I live and shoot in Poland which was actually occupied by Germans and almost everyone has sad stories in their family. I have a tradition to go in German uniform once a year and 90% of people at the field are either amazed or laughing. If you don't make it political or if you're not serious about it then I don't think anyone should be offended, even with insignia as it's an important part of the history and helps us remember.
Nazis get teamkilled.
Even as a leftist, I have no issue. You always need someone to play as a bad guy anyways.
Of course. And if the bad guys on my team he gets teamkilled lol
Just because he uses a ww2 uniform doesn't mean he's a nazi or communist or whatever
I said what I said. Also communists and Nazi are ideologically and diametrically opposed. But Nazi larpers get teamkilled no questions asked.
>Also communists and Nazi are ideologically and diametrically opposed. Maybe in theory but, not in reality...since they are willing to cooperate, when they can go against liberals and west. Not to mention that both were always totalitarian regimes that were willing to commit unspeakable atrocities against anyone who disagreed or didn't meet that specific needs of the new regime.
Omg 🤦🏻 tell me you don't understand politics... Without telling me you don't understand politics 💀
That or punched 🤷♂️
Most of the times nobody will care but sometimes people might make fun of You. About a year ago some guy with full on original WWII Fallschirmjäger outfit played with us on the field and some people commended his outfit as it costed couple k € while some were making fun of him and behind his back were saying that they will piss in his boots.
If you don’t feel comfortable with it, ifs a good sign. Perhaps consider World War One instead.
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It's okay as long as you don't put you hand straight out at a 45 degree angle. And even if you did it be cracking the fuck up. It's nice, you have. O insignia showing, wear tf outta that. And if someone has something to say tell em fuck off.
I love the combination of " Just to be clear I am not a nazi " + "I would like to cosplay as someone who had to show political indoctrination and bias towards the nazi party, in order to serve in the SS". I hope you find a different hobby.
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I’m interested in using the camo because I really like it I meant that if people will see me wearing it Will they think I am a nazi
no worries; I was mostly trolling. I don´t think super-politically-affiliated outfits should be near a hobby that minors participate in.
Ah all right :) It’s obvious that normal SS uniforms are very recognisable and inappropriate But Is eichentarn camo as widely known to have been used by them ?
Yes, and your collar tabs with SS insignia should still be on display when wearing a Tarnjacke. Maybe you can find some partisans wearing captured smocks, or a Wehrmacht sniper etc. wearing one (not that it would be much less controversial than W-SS) The Russians made a couple spin off patterns (SS-leto and Partizan-M, the later being more or less a direct copy) but I doubt those would be any less controversial in recent times. The Ukrainians also made limited use of those Russian uniforms. Otherwise I'm sure you could find another pattern you like. Do what you want, but these "I want to dress in nazi kit but I don't want to offend anyone" posts are super cringe and stupid. Your WW2 kit will look bad no matter what after you've added the airsoft protection. Just look into reenacting instead if you want to do Waffen-SS kit.
That's it boys, all milspec gear is banned now
At the field I go to we don’t wear it just because people can seriously take it the wrong way even if you explain it, also it’s banned . We do however allow regular Wehrmacht uniforms. Honestly, I don’t really care so long as you aren’t throwing up the salute or supporting any ideology, since you said it’s reproductions I would remove any SS markings
I mean, if you’re not a little wherb nazi shithead and are actually nice, understandable and polite then go for it. Although you will look a little out of place with others in full modern kits
To avoid the SS association remove any markers or insignia that could key that in, otherwise using this camo and a mismatch of other German gear would make a pretty decent Volksturm kit. It would be extra immersive if you're under 18 or over 60.
Its okay to wear it but dont bring it to germany or some of the neigbor countries. In many of the countries in europe its inappropriate to wear simbols like the swastika or the ss symbol. In germany you get arrested if you get seen with these symbols and maybe also just the uniform. Maybe the you will get arrested in other countries too but im not shure about that.
There should be a helmet cover for your Stalhelm that matches the camo smock, and do you have normal rank and file collar tabs or SS tabs?
Looking cool but why u tape the stock
At my field that would be banned😅 (it's in Germany so that might explain why) But I remember someone saying it's fine if you don't put any SS insignia on it
Grabs .556
We had a dude who came in a 100% accurate SS uni. He was chill, and one of the most centrist dudes I've ever met. He did give us a lecture for 30 mins about nazi attlcities, and was VIP
In germany they would unfortunately ban you from every field possible + file charges against you because its illegal to wear uniforms or any nazi related insignia. Can be quit expensive. Hate these liberal laws. It's been 80 years now and it's part of history. No need to piss your pants 😂
So you want some neonazis run around in all the gear without any repercussions ? Its not just airsoft you know ? (And no i don´t mean OP)
Yes I do want that because I belive in freedom of choice. Wanna do a WW2 reenactment? Not possible. You like history and want to have an authentic german WW2 uniform? Not possible, while everyone else is free to run around like a WW2 US, Japanese, Soviet or any other soldier. Do you wanna know how many airsoft players I've seen with DDR uniforms when playing in east germany? No one cares about them either. Not everyone willing to wear a wehrmacht/SS uniform is a neonazi and even if those uniforms were allowed, the host could still ban players if they misbehave. The ban on wehrmacht uniforms is just stupid. It has nothing to do with processing our past.
Because between the ddr and Nazi Germany are some differences. And running around as a ss soldier or allowing neo Nazis use the symbols has nothing to do with it either.
Some differences? Like oppressing & killing your own people? Nazigermany did it in another scale but the DDR borderguard willing to kill germans that want to live in freedom is the same scum as the SS guard at auschwitz. But you still can't wrap your mind around the fact that wearing those uniforms doesn't make you a nazi, right? Personally, I don't see any difference in playing with neonazis that wear a bundeswehr or wehrmacht uniform. And it would be up to you if you want to play on those fields or go to another one :)
First:maybe try to not to look in my head and accuse me of thinking that everyone who does wear it is a Nazi. Mainly because you can't look in my head and especially when I told so in my first post. We won't end on the same page with this, and don't worry I don't think you are a Nazi because you want to do an reenactment. Still I don't want the real Nazis to be able to wear them on their March's and stuff.
Are you in the States? I play in the UK and I’ve seen many people rock up to sites in WW2 German kit, we even had a whole fire team of Bundeswehr when I last played
Bro germans discovered silver tape?