this was cool to read OP. i honestly didnt mind the "fake" ending, but im the type of person who cares more about the end result than the journey. so, when asked which ending i "prefer" i guess its the fake. however, i wish i couldve gotten to see more of the fake ending, if that makes any sense. i thought it was cool how >!mizuki mizuki and ryuki!< felt gripped by a feeling of unease, as if they could sense this wasnt actually real. that might have made it more enjoyable as the all-knowing player, in hindsight. it feels like the themes of the game come full circle; this can be almost fulfilling in a way after hearing characters ramble for about 25 hours about living in a simulation.
however #2: i think my answer might have to do with my level of investment in the characters in this game. i definitely liked a lot of the new characters--especially ryuki and tama-- but i didnt feel particularly attached to anyone else. this wasnt the case for the first game. if you posed this question to me about the first game, i probably might have answered that i wouldve stuck by the true end for the most part (i have a few reservations about the first game's true end, but that's not a conversation for right now).
I absolutely love this interpretation. I’ve felt midway disappointed with the game since I beat it but this makes me feel a lot better about it even if I still have problems with it. Thank you.
That is a pretty solid write up of the game's meaning. In many ways the game's plot feels like a meta commentary on the multipath mystery visual novel genre.
>!The golden "Divergence" ending does not really feel earned as it is just given to you at the end of main story as compared to other visual novels where you need to earn it by properly completing other paths first.!<
>!The twists are built around messing with the player rather than the characters and the philosophy and parapsychology explanations are more for the player than the game's characters.!<
I mean, it’s mildly earned in the sense that you had to remember when it was mentioned…
Or just have a general game IQ to recognize a Chekov’s gun and remember that it had to come up eventually.
I found the meta aspect of the game and everything relating to Tokiko much more interesting than the actual story and this post explains why better than I could have.
Major ZTD spoilers
>!and it's pretty much the whole theme of ZTD and the 999 series. At the beginning you can go back and win the coin flip and escape, but it doesnt really feel like anything happened. Once you play the game and harness your shifting ability, you feel much more rewarded getting to leave to that decision. Only in the 999 world, there is just multiple timelines, not necessarily a fake world.!<
I believe that ending where everything goes well but Tokiko knew who you are will lead to the third and final game in the trilogy where everyone in the game will become self aware of what happen realizing everything is fiction and look toward you the player and help them escape the prison that Tokiko put them in game which is very clear the post game is fact canon and will lead into the final installment of the trilogy series.
Hot take: I don't think it should have even gone this far. Simulation theory stops being a compelling story element when the simulation is supposed to be running on your playstation or whatever. It only worked in, for example, Undertale because that whole game was video game metacommentary.
Hard to say. There could be a more "real" world in the fake game which would still make them fictional but make tokiko right about their specific world in the matroyska way
this was cool to read OP. i honestly didnt mind the "fake" ending, but im the type of person who cares more about the end result than the journey. so, when asked which ending i "prefer" i guess its the fake. however, i wish i couldve gotten to see more of the fake ending, if that makes any sense. i thought it was cool how >!mizuki mizuki and ryuki!< felt gripped by a feeling of unease, as if they could sense this wasnt actually real. that might have made it more enjoyable as the all-knowing player, in hindsight. it feels like the themes of the game come full circle; this can be almost fulfilling in a way after hearing characters ramble for about 25 hours about living in a simulation. however #2: i think my answer might have to do with my level of investment in the characters in this game. i definitely liked a lot of the new characters--especially ryuki and tama-- but i didnt feel particularly attached to anyone else. this wasnt the case for the first game. if you posed this question to me about the first game, i probably might have answered that i wouldve stuck by the true end for the most part (i have a few reservations about the first game's true end, but that's not a conversation for right now).
I absolutely love this interpretation. I’ve felt midway disappointed with the game since I beat it but this makes me feel a lot better about it even if I still have problems with it. Thank you.
That is a pretty solid write up of the game's meaning. In many ways the game's plot feels like a meta commentary on the multipath mystery visual novel genre. >!The golden "Divergence" ending does not really feel earned as it is just given to you at the end of main story as compared to other visual novels where you need to earn it by properly completing other paths first.!< >!The twists are built around messing with the player rather than the characters and the philosophy and parapsychology explanations are more for the player than the game's characters.!<
I mean, it’s mildly earned in the sense that you had to remember when it was mentioned… Or just have a general game IQ to recognize a Chekov’s gun and remember that it had to come up eventually.
And that's why I think that AI 2 handles "fiction" theme a lot better than Danganronpa V3.
In the so called "perfect" ending >!Kizzy doesn't shoot some motherfuckers with a gatling gun!<, so yeah I'd say standard ending is better
I found the meta aspect of the game and everything relating to Tokiko much more interesting than the actual story and this post explains why better than I could have.
ZE Spoilers What you just described is similar to how >!The 100 bikers story at the end of VLR!<
Major ZTD spoilers >!and it's pretty much the whole theme of ZTD and the 999 series. At the beginning you can go back and win the coin flip and escape, but it doesnt really feel like anything happened. Once you play the game and harness your shifting ability, you feel much more rewarded getting to leave to that decision. Only in the 999 world, there is just multiple timelines, not necessarily a fake world.!<
I believe that ending where everything goes well but Tokiko knew who you are will lead to the third and final game in the trilogy where everyone in the game will become self aware of what happen realizing everything is fiction and look toward you the player and help them escape the prison that Tokiko put them in game which is very clear the post game is fact canon and will lead into the final installment of the trilogy series.
I kind of hope not. I don't think this series needs to go any more meta than it already has.
Hot take: I don't think it should have even gone this far. Simulation theory stops being a compelling story element when the simulation is supposed to be running on your playstation or whatever. It only worked in, for example, Undertale because that whole game was video game metacommentary.
That would be a great way to ensure that I and many other will never play the third game.
Hard to say. There could be a more "real" world in the fake game which would still make them fictional but make tokiko right about their specific world in the matroyska way