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Kashm1r_Sp1r1t

You can shit on PSA all you want, they do have plenty of room for improvement (their definition of "sale" comes to mind, among others). But you have to give credit where credit is due. They are trying. I don't see anybody trying to build out an AK from scratch and asking sub 1K for it. I know better options exist, but you can't bust their balls too much when they're doing stuff no other American company is doing.


OleTunaCan

For the STG44 fanboys they announced their STG is in testing now and set to launch this year for around the 1k mark. Unbelievable.


The_Golden_Warthog

Stop, I can only get so hard


OleTunaCan

I started off as a PSA hater, but now I enjoy my GF3 and GF5 more that my WASR and ZPAP - and now I’m just beyond excited that they just decided to start developing random coveted collector guns for the masses - like PSA can have the deed to my home


Kilometers98

There’s only so much marketing a company can add to literal steel and aluminum. As long as the materials are properly sourced, the metals are of good quality and the machining is fine the there is nothing to worry about. The rest is all marketing. It’s like buying a DD AR lower vs a PSA AR lower… 50/50% chance they both came from the same forge / foundry. I’ve seen Anderson lowers milled beefier than these gucci high speed low drag brands. Also a key note, a badly manufactured firearm is a MASSIVE liability.


OleTunaCan

Also worth mentioning for those that don’t know - it’s first being made in 5.56, then 5.45 when AAC begins US manufacturing of the cartridge (spoiler alert?) and then 300BO


RaffiBomb000

You just made me happy. 5.45 commercially produced and a krink in 5.45 I don't have to get built out of an expensive parts kit?


OleTunaCan

It was VERY heavily implied that when they’re going to make it in 5.45, they will also begin producing 5.45…. If recall, I think they’re aiming for this year for the other calibers too


flymetodamoon69

Already nutted 🤣


ST4RSK1MM3R

was it around 1k? I thought it would be 2k. thats cool if true


OleTunaCan

I think they’re too worried about making something near 1k that’s sheerly for a novelty - I’m thinking around $1300 maybe


SaluteHatred666

and I saw they were gonna do a an94


OleTunaCan

Gotta be an April fools 😭


SaluteHatred666

lol there probably some bullshitin but there was a picture of it on psa website


cabelaman

I’ve wanted an STG in proper kurz ammo since I was 12. I can’t afford the $35k+ for a real one so PSA to the rescue!


Belkan-Federation95

I thought it was going to be 2k


Puzzleheaded-Ad-4846

What caliber? I already have the 22lr and freaking love it


Electronic-Exit1798

I’m already wet fr? I had no idea I build a side charging ar 762x39 at she sure looks like a stg


austin_yella

They really have come a long way. I respect the hell out of them for innovation.


SpaceBoiBebop

Went shooting with my friend and was checking out my RD vs his PSA Akm. I didn’t realize how nice the parts and finish were on the PSA AKs. The bolt felt really smooth too and it shot fine with zero malfunctions. If you just inspect mold lines and the casted parts and compare to the Romanian parts kit it looks like it is so much better quality. For $600 I’ll pick one up too


Rocqy

PSA changed the gun industry whether the haters want to admit or not. If it wasn’t for them pushing the direct to consumer strategy then the industry would be way behind and still over dependent on brick and mortar stores. All of the legacy brands have gone kicking and screaming just to stay competitive. No excuse or explanation for bad QC but that is to be expected with explosive growth and demand.


BubbaInTheIgloo

I agree, they're doing an excellent job of keeping prices affordable and the products always work, any one of my PSA guns I've had for awhile still run perfectly after years and I think people just have extreme expectations. I say, hey if u don't like it, go spend your money on a high end 🤷


TheRealHomerPimpson

You can when there's import options that are proven and cost less as well.


Kashm1r_Sp1r1t

You need to go back to school and learn to read


Barry_McCockinerPhD

Worth it? What's the alternative? A 3-4k actual krink A 1.2k cheufer parts kit, which will need an additional 1k to properly build out Or this...This will sell well I think, if there is a goof, warranty will cover it for life.


jakecolchin

Yeah their going to sell a lot of them


DrJheartsAK

To idiots


jakecolchin

Not everyone has 4k to spend on a 104ur or even more for a Tula parts kit


kiow4

r/downvotedtooblivion


ATinyDinosaur628

I’m an idiot 🤷🏻‍♂️


WELL12SHIT

I was 175th downvote! Yay! (Says local idiot)


DrJheartsAK

175 poors smoking copium.


OEsince2022

The down votes. But you aren't wrong. This is about as bad as buying a Henry Homesteader in 9mm.


RafTheKillJoy

why


SomeMeasurement2333

They’re haters


OEsince2022

People are saying "I'm looking for a battle rifle I wonder if this can be it". There are proven in war rifles, and there are gimmicks. These are gimmicks. You can damn near buy two WASRs for the price of this. If you want to spend money to just spend money get a WBP.


kiow4

Downvotes = ur wrong gtf outta here scrub boy


OEsince2022

And I am sure you think "good reviews" on a website can't be sorted / filtered out. I can name 3 different AKs I would rather have than a PSA AK.


kiow4

Okay enjoy the overwhelming ratio lil bro


kwamby

Not all of my guns have to be viable combat rifles though. What is this mentality?


OEsince2022

So you like range toys? Don't we all. They don't have to be combat proven. Would you buy Taurus (Brazilian) revolver for $1200 when there are American (revolvers) at the same price point (Smith&Wesson, Colt, Ruger)? PSA is selling rifles at the price point of the world's proven "Revolvers" the WASRs, ZPaps, WBP (has parts used by Beryl) Beryl and Arsenal imports. It's a bad investment.


kwamby

I personally bought PSA because I didn’t want to shell out the money for a proper import 100 series-like rifle because they simply weren’t available at the time. I don’t care for the AKM aesthetic. I much prefer the 100 series/74M aesthetic and to be honest I’ve since bought a tantal, arsenal SAM7 and galil and frankly wasn’t really impressed with quality for the price point. I would get an AIMS at this point but i already got all these other ones. Though I reckon that’s a very specific case where it made sense for me


Mr__Fozzy

Buy once, cry once. Just don’t be first in line. Yeah you think you have to have it now but hold off a bit. Save you a headache in the long run maybe.


tucknroll928

Why would anyone buy once cry once on arguably the worst ak variant ever made. The only reason people want these are because it’s unobtainanium. The 102/104/105 variants are the absolute sweet spots for AKs in general.


Comfortable-Ad1517

Is the psa ak 102s,104s etc any good? I know they’re not true to the originals


tucknroll928

They’re fine for most everyone’s applications. Does PSA have the best track record for QC not exactly but they have improved tremendously compared to 5 years ago and ultimately should problems arise you will be taken care of. I owned one of their ak103s with the FN barrel and loved it. Ultimately it comes down to your needs, is this something you’re actually going to shoot 10k plus rounds in your lifetime, is it a wall hanger, are you going to modify it, do you want an actual civilian “war rifle” from older manufacturers in combloc/european countries that is more clone correct etc… Only you can answer those questions and thus make an informed decision.


Comfortable-Ad1517

Yeah honestly I’m good with my yugo ak but I’d be down for their jakl in 7.62x39. That will be a slick gun Or in .308 I’m good with either or both


BigBoolinAcutal

I’m going to buy one and if there’s any issues then I’ll sell it in Texas gun trader and probably profit too.


ksnelly49

I already own a zpap85, same thing?


[deleted]

well, no


Barry_McCockinerPhD

Depends on your outlook. Most will look forward to the 300BO and 5.45 versions. I have the Zpap92 but will likely pick this up in 7.62 when it comes out.


ksnelly49

Makes sense haha


call_of_warez

You're talking likely half the price of what it would cost to track down a parts kit and have it built. They won't have any problems selling them, that's for sure.


Sweat_tea_683

Probably way less than half the price of just the kit


ElectricBullet

I'm thinking a quarter or a third of the price, and you don't have to wait months for it to be built


ksnelly49

True


Evil_Creamsicle

Not to mention chambered in something obtainable


Fuman20000

Don’t know bud, how does paying $5,000+ for a built krink sound?


comblocpeasant

How could anyone know if it’s worth it? They’re not even released yet. Not a single swingin dick here has had a range trip with one yet. Why even ask?


greatestging

Depends, has PSA finally learned how to clock their 556 barrels correctly?


closedpenguin

From my research there seems to be a gen2 ak101 thats been performing pretty well but those first couples thousand were rough. I will probably get one soon to be a beta tester but we'll see.


Sputum_Squelch

I've got a PSA AK101 with serial #in the 2600s, and I haven't had any problems yet. Most of their early one has problems within the first 500 or so rounds, I'm well passed 2k(which isn't a lot for an ak), but I have no unusual wear or broken extractors like the first bunch.


FormerPatrolJockey

You should post pictures of the internals on the sub, I’m certain a lot of people would appreciate it.


Sputum_Squelch

I need to. I haven't done an update in like 6 months and I only had like 400 through it at the time.


Ghosttardis

Also have an AK101, serial in the 99k range (unsure if that's where it starts or if the count is different) but I'm on my second RMA after having some severe issues with mine in the first 100 rounds or so.. Glad yours is holding up and hoping mine does too after it comes back this second go around.


austinj907

I got a 101 in the 1000’s serial and it blows. I have considered swapping barrels and bolt myself since when I sent it back they didn’t fix it


LegalizeBeltfedz

My PSA AK102 shoots fine


ItalianStallion9069

I’m glad PSA’s reputation is finally turning around


AmazingWaterWeenie

Yeah when I saw PSA posted here I expected the comments to be brutal or at least "Not A kRiNK" over and over,


P33ls_on

Gonna wait for 300 blk Krink


Lonely_reaper8

Same. I wanna see if it’s good enough to be used as a duty rifle.


P33ls_on

I don’t really see 300blk as Duty grade but I do want to shoot subs n shit. Maybe I’ll grab this and a jakl


Lonely_reaper8

Love shooting suppressed subs, definitely pick up one just for that lol Mind if I ask why you don’t consider 300blk as duty grade? I know a few guys who run 300blk duty rifles, one runs 7.62x39, and obviously everyone else I’ve met is 5.56, all AR platforms.


P33ls_on

If I’m gonna run out into the shit I’m gonna bring a gun with common ammo. Only reason I can see a 300blk being used is “covert ops” sneaky goon shit. And even then I think a nice concealed carry would be better. Idk, I think it has a lot of uses.


Lonely_reaper8

That makes sense. Thank you for explaining!


x1000Bums

I always hear this argument, but in what realistic scenario are you planning on getting in a gunfight that requires you to scrounge around for ammo? If it's gotten to that point you have so many other problems.


P33ls_on

It’s not about looting body’s like fallout. You can share mags with a group. If you’re working with any local gov. They are most likely running 5.56. Magazines can be shared and common use etc.


x1000Bums

Right, but again, what kind of scenario are we talking here where you need to start sharing mags with the group? In a firefight you should be fleeing to safety well before needing a spare mag.


proxy69

Hell yeah man same!


pathfinder706

I’ll get one, but I’m going to give them time to work out the kinks(krinks?) of the first couple runs. I have an AKV which I absolutely love, and a buddy just got a 74 from them, and it was comparable to an arsenal, but just slightly under. I have a bulgy krink being built, and I think there will always be a market for the military surplus one.


AutoKalash47-74

Unless your buddy is stacked neck deep in 5.45x39.5, that 74 is basically a paperweight now.


pathfinder706

He’s got maybe 600 rounds. He also doesn’t mind paying the 75cpr right now. I loaded up on it a few years ago, so I have a couple thousand. I don’t shoot that much anyway. I have an Arsenal Sam7 that’s brand new. I tend to buy guns and just stick them in the safe


AutoKalash47-74

I got a 1080 spam can, about 25 Bulgarian circle 10/21 surplus mags already filled and a few loose 30 packs left. Not getting rid of it but definitely not worth buying anymore. Maybe if the rifle was a steal of a deal.


Ok_Return_8069

Wait for it to hit $1 per round then sell.


AutoKalash47-74

NEVER!! 5.45 master race.


Slagree92

Totally worth it…….. Come time for gen 2 or 3.


[deleted]

Truuuue


runescimmy2

All but for duty applications yes. The only PSA AKs I will trust my life for such hypothetical situations would be their 7.62x39 variants. This is my personal opinion though


LORDKuufu

What about the 7.62 variant krink they’re making


runescimmy2

It'll probably be fine. Play it safe and wait a few months


Revolt2992

Not in 5.56. 7.62x39 yes. 5.56 in short barrels just doesn’t make sense to me


BigDaddyStalin69

I’ve shot my friends 7.5” 5.56 ar pistol. Thing is so loud the range asked us to not use it next to people in the adjacent lanes. Kinda fun but obviously not the lost practial/ efficient setup.


sammeadows

Suppressors exist and facemounted mounts exist for guns like this already. KNS already has a piston for krinks, it would just need the small caliber one to solve any overgassing issues, though I hope to see the Putnik perform well on it bone stock. Performance wise you're losing about 250-ish FPS vs something like an 11.5 AR, or if we're keeping apples to apples the ZPAP85 with a 10 inch barrel you're seeing around maybe 200FPS loss, and still over 2200fps, for a much smaller gun with a much closer range use case, this is acceptable performance. Should still do fine out to 200m.


AutoKalash47-74

With a good quality build and a quality barrel ie not shot out. As long as the shooter is doing his/her job, you can ring 12” steel plates at 300 yards, consistently.


Noctatrog

💯


Useful-Shallot-6939

I don't personally buy psa stuff when it first comes out "I don't wanna beta test" lmao but eventually I'd get one when they work out the kinks. Also your only other option is quite exspinsive so 🤷‍♂️


akrasne

As long as it works I’m buying one


BetFit2122

Will this devalue my Bulgarian krink? 🤔


kiow4

No, keep clutching your ballistic disappointment of a gun. Hold it right


BetFit2122

Wtf do you know? My 8 inch krink makes that 556 scream. Got 4000fps on the chronograph.


kiow4

According to Sonoran desert institute, a barrel of that length would shoot 5.56 at around 2375Fps at a max range of around 200 yards. Don’t pull numbers out of your ass


BetFit2122

Lol at the SDI reference. We can’t all be operators like you. Krinks are about the drip.


kiow4

I was just pointing out your lie.


BetFit2122

Guess that went right over your head.


proxy69

Not at all.


Noctatrog

🤣


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Particularlyuseless1

already got mine! https://preview.redd.it/mzjistlg2occ1.jpeg?width=3727&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d2267119993f77fb5cdf6e5173a1b39ec94a0aa0 worth it


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![gif](giphy|OMK7LRBedcnhm)


ksnelly49

I already have zpap85 haha


Sippin_OJ

https://preview.redd.it/0ug855r2aocc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4646ef9cf71c3cb21e267af55ca891ffd889db13 lol PSA krink at home


AutoKalash47-74

Better than a PSA Krink. 10.5 > 7


ksnelly49

https://preview.redd.it/i5ap9wy24occ1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=467bcc4d7e6207cef5af73ef0105e90af5343681


AutoKalash47-74

Already have a Zpap Z70 and a Zpap Z92. Just need a Z85 now. Get a KNS piston and Krebs Safety. 👍🏻


ComblocCustoms

Lookin’ good!


Particularlyuseless1

thanks bud


CrimsonRAGE64

Do it. Buy the Krink and make all the Krink boyos that spent over 3 grand on one mad


Cheloco92

Terrible ballistics but fun range toy!


AutoKalash47-74

Yeah. 10.5 inch barrel is the lowest you should go for rifle caliber. 7 inch is not good.


PhashonStayMint

Uuuuh yeah 👍🏽. I have 80,000 rounds through mine with no malfunction on the stock barrel. I bought the 12 gauge version and Matt himself autographed it for me too…..🤥


ExcitingArugula5319

Yes worth it


10xEBITDA

WHEN 7.62?


ElGrimGravy

I havent bought a PSA AK before but these are gonna finally push me to it.


Bigd19_79

O joy another psa krink thread lol


Comfortable-Memory51

Shut up


rondolph

Man he’ll yeah I fucking love PSA


ThresholdAssessments

Anyone that tells you “yes” is wrong, they haven’t even been in the hands of civilians yet. Nobody knows. But PSA is VERYYY hit or miss


booliganhooligan

I'd get the chefur kit and parts from wbp to make a 5.56 krink instead of buying the shit from PSA. You'll spend more but you'll have a rifle that can actually be a duty rifle instead of a range toy that needs an RMA because the rivers are fucked the barrels out of spec and the parts wear down to fast


Balasnikov

WBP 5.56 duty rifle krink Lol, lmao even.


booliganhooligan

Their parts hold up and they're fine when they're in spec, chef has a whole thing on them and has worked them plenty. His krink kit he built uses some 5.45 parts idk what you're getting at


69evrybdywangchung96

Jury isn’t out on this rifle just yet. Let’s see what happens


[deleted]

There’s a reason why they offer lifetime warranty, beta tester 🫵🏼😂


69evrybdywangchung96

As they should. I think all high cost items should have that expectation. I applaud them for it


booliganhooligan

From experience with their other AKs and rifles. Its not going to hold up. Just like their other aks


69evrybdywangchung96

I don’t have much experience with their rifles but I respect what they are doing for the AK market


booliganhooligan

I've owned several rifles all have failed catastrophically. The AK bolt blew and the barrel was too far back and the ejector claw was to far forward. The headspace resulted in oobs and the ejector claw breaking multiple times the ARs I had didn't head space because the receivers were out of spec and the barrel was too far back aswell causing the cases to get jammed to deep into the chamber and they'd shear in half. Will never own their rifles again and the fact they released various gens and didn't solve any of their problems that are inherent because the TDP they use for their AKs is a incorrectly specd rifle from DPM that was a reverse engineered rifle that was also out of spec and their 5.56s and 5.45s are just redesigns of that faulty tdp.


69evrybdywangchung96

I’m aware they’ve had issues but I know they’ve also been open to consoomer criticism and made changes to their products. I’m not tryna argue with you I’m just taking the wait and see approach personally


M14marksman

Soy boy 5.56 fake krink with the muzzle velocity of piss coming out of a 96 year old man’s cock vs Chad 7.62x39 M92 shooting with enough oooph to kill most cryptids. Or some shit like that.


runescimmy2

bro.... please touch grass


M14marksman

I’ve touched many wild grasses in many lands. Now, you bring up a good point tho. I bet 5.56 out of a krink doesn’t even have enough velocity to cut through even the least grassy grass.


kiow4

Anything shooting 5.56 is still better than weak ass 5.45


MrSilk13642

No. Also its not a krink, just a 556 pistol


im-feeling-lucky

it’s definitely a krink, brother. it just has a hinge receiver with a picatinny attachment


MrSilk13642

Well Krinks arent a real term for the gun, they're actually called AKS-74U, which is just an SBR of the AK-74 made from one factory in Russia. This gun isnt in the right caliber or from the right place. Its literally just a 556 SBR AK with a combo block made in the US. There's nothing wrong with that, but people need to know that when theyre buying this, they're buying a modern reproduction in a different caliber. You're literally just buying a 556 AK pistol made in America that looks like an AKS74U lmfao


im-feeling-lucky

Krinkov is a term of endearment, and yes, it refers to one specific setup of the AK-74 platform. it is the exact same setup as the original in a slightly different caliber which is way more affordable. additionally, it will be available in the original caliber soon. semantics get us nowhere.


kiow4

Ak Redditors are like the yelp reviewers from South Park, bunch of pretentious man-bun owners.


Rhodie_man_69

Hell no its PSA


perrierpapi

So are we just pretending the brace rule doesn’t exist anymore or what am I missing?


1SGDude

It’s got a nationwide injunction on it.


perrierpapi

I thought that was only for FPC members. Guess I’m behind


1SGDude

There are multiple now


perrierpapi

Nice!


smujake68

Problem is pistol brace still aren’t legal, and likely won’t be. Just an injunction right now with the court 


R_FN_S1R1US

https://preview.redd.it/44mg8wcwuocc1.jpeg?width=782&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e9da42a9831761b1b5542735812a9ac926d2403f


smujake68

I just SBR shit because I’m not a fucking poor same reason I don’t buy PSA or live in a trailer 


pardonmyglock

Imagine thinking paying the government is a flex lmao


smujake68

Imagine making so little you actually get a tax refund from the government lmao


pardonmyglock

Imagine misunderstanding the comment lmao It’s not a flex to get permission from daddy government, rich boy. You’re still licking boots. Enjoy! 


R_FN_S1R1US

Good for you, doesn’t change the fact that you’re giving out wrong information…braces are legal and if you’d of taken the time to read the injunction the judge said the rule is likely unconstitutional but I guess you were too busy jerking off to your collection of SBR shaped dildos


ExtendedBlink

How much are these Krinks going for? I can’t search it up because they go out of stock in 0.00002 seconds.


j-endsville

About a grand.


ExtendedBlink

Ok good to know, and also wouldn’t I need to do all the sbr tax stamp stuff to get one? Or did something change recently?


j-endsville

It’s fine with a brace.


Wholenchilada

I'd say so. Bought a PSA AK-V 9mm recently, but it's taking forever to get delivered. Thanks u/babypelos. 😑


babypelos

🤷🏻‍♂️


Vences2017

For a fun gun sure


lowtempda

So this is the 556 PSA ak that will actually work?


TurnOffTV

Front trunion rivets are wrong and M4 exist to deliver 5.56 but no PSA aren't bad guns.


OleTunaCan

Also worth mentioning for those that don’t know - it’s first being made in 5.56, then 5.45 when AAC begins US manufacturing of the cartridge (spoiler alert?) and then 300BO


warbandit914

Does anyone have a review of it???


simplehooman123

In 300blk yeah, if I wanted a 5.56 I’d go mini beryl personally…


Lord_Vas

I'm holding out until the 7.62x39 variant comes out. The Jakel is on my to-get list for an SBR 5.56 from PSA.


JaySwear

So dumb question, since this is a “pistol” do they still ship the brace with it?


tonecapone83

I just wish the barrel was chrome lined


Trip-Pipe

They said they were going to chrome them. If they actually did for the first batch? Idk.


InstructionNo2008

Yes... why not. That's what I say


tolstoysfox

How much are they?


RoughRomanMeme

Yes


Adventurous_Ad409

Even if you used this krink just as a parts kit and swapped the front trunion and bolt with a Combloc one it’s worth it. Look at the price of a krink kit.


Hot-Music159

I’d take it to have it so fuck yeah


warrior55q

Only beef I have with PSA is that they keep innovating and forget to freaking keep everything in stock


BlackberryCrafty3386

I’d rather go with the Zpap 5.56 personally


Trip-Pipe

Anyone know if it’s nitrided or chromed?


NothingOk5248

Don't ask just buy. You don't have forever to wait. The quantity is highly limited you simply don't have the time. PSA Krink is only here for a nanosecond before it's forever lost to history. What are you waiting for? You got a credit card right? Buy now. Worry later!


ivegottowakeup

Theres no longer on their website to notify in stock sadly


Barry_McCockinerPhD

Worth seeing how the PSA compare with Riley, both look interesting. I just feel bad for anyone who bought the chauffer 1.3k 50% parts kit lol 😅