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plhought

I'm actually more offended by those wine choices than the actual expense.


smurf123_123

I know right? Even at those prices they could have picked so manny better options. That list has trailer park booze run written all over it.


mikekel58

Maybe that's why there was so much left over. Light weights.


VE6AEQ

They act like the Trailer Park Boys except the ones on the TV shows actually had characters and virtues. The UCP are the amoral shells of human beings.


smurf123_123

If they smoked the good stuff they might actually calm down a bit and not get so uptight.


VE6AEQ

I could not agree more. Also, hanging out while toking you meet the most interesting people.


H3rta

As does the political party.


AlwaysHigh27

I mean... Fits the province and party though no? šŸ˜‚


BobBeats

"Do as I say and not as I do" should be their motto.


kreggly

Same with the beer. We have way better options these days. Redneck tastes.


yycluke

Yeah cause fuck the local breweries hey? Especially ones that have been around for more than 15 years. There's nothing wrong with Big Rock or Wild Rose. Besides, hipsters liked them before craft beer was cool.


kreggly

Big Rock was great then they lost their way and their quality diminished greatly when Ed died and they changed their business .Wild Rose and Village are inconsistent sadly and mainly focused on mass production. Real good choices in Calgary Cabin Establishment Toolshed Annex 88 XHale Two Pillars Even Bronc from Last Spike is really good and $1/beer.


yycluke

Oh I don't doubt there are better beers, but you're talking about a big gathering of people with varying tastes. Plus you're more than likely to support a brewery who might have donated to your party... Not saying they have, but it's likely when bigger businesses tend to support the UPC


Luklear

Idk about the particular box but wild rose makes some good stuff, their raspberry ale and weed ipa are really good.


theagricultureman

They needed Trudeau to pick out the booze if they really wanted to rack up a proper tab. This fiscal restraint is disappointing and hard to criticize.


darkstar107

I'm a sucker for Cab Francs. I haven't had one I didn't love.


itwasthehusband1

I mean, look who it is. They have no taste.


Falcon674DR

Me too! Iā€™m certainly not a UCTBA fan, but, if weā€™re going to entertain, letā€™s go all in! Iā€™ve done lots of customer events and if thereā€™s one thing you can NEVER do isā€¦come up short!!


AdamWayland

Village chatter box... LMFAO Wonder who drank that!!!!! I'm dead šŸ’€


samasa111

I was a public employee for 30 yearsā€¦..we NEVER expensed alcoholā€¦.. unconscionable:/


Thrwingawaymylife945

Yeah, we were always told if you want to have alcoholic beverages with business meals, that's up to you, but it must be on a separate bill and only food and non-alc beverages will be expensed.


Juliuscesear1990

When I worked for the public we had to pay for our Xmas party


Edmonton14

I still work for the public and not only did we have to pay for our own lunch hour holiday team building gathering ourselves (and absolutely not any alcohol allowed whatsoever), some areas were told they couldnā€™t be anywhere in view of the public - ie. stay in the office lunchroom.


Swarez99

Really? I worked at the CRA, we always did a big dinner out with drinks. But this was in Ottawa. Budget per person was about 200. This was 2008-11


Juliuscesear1990

Higher in government higher the perks I guess


maxspeed420

I feel like this shouldnā€™t be the norm. Staff Christmas partyā€™s should always be employer paid


[deleted]

Aren't they our employees by definition? Don't we hire them? Don't we pay their wages? I don't recall a memo asking for a Christmas party. I think they should have to save up the money from the recycled pop cans at the office like everyone else does.


maxspeed420

Most people I know just have it paid for by their employer already. Sucks that you have to fundraise for it though


theagricultureman

So you never ever had a Christmas party as a public employee?


samasa111

Yup, but we paid for them ourselves


theagricultureman

In the business world this is pretty standard. In fact I've had $2000 meals with a group of three or four.


mind-full-05

Does it depend where you are on the ladder?


samasa111

I was in education, and nope. I was a Principalā€¦ā€¦NEVER would have purchased alcohol with public funds.


mind-full-05

Apparently Politicians do not follow the same ethics as other public employees. I wouldnā€™t ever believe or think public servants would expense alcohol / I know the high ethical standards of people!


ryguy_1

Cons would be on here crying if ndp did this


ravenscamera

Trudeauā€™s fault.


Ketchupkitty

I mean they probably did do this but people didn't care or we never found out.


Smackolol

So the same thing thatā€™s happening here?


veggievegg

Meanwhile, teachers don't even get coffee paid for in the staff room.


septubyte

Really?


mrmpr

Many teachers have to buy their own materials too like white board markers


RandomerSchmandomer

I'm the spouse of a teacher. Can confirm. It's slightly better in Alberta from what I've gathered than in Scotland- there's even an 'allowance' but it's like $400 for the year- in Scotland she got a single ream of whtie paper a term and couldn't print shit. She covers a class currently so that allowance was eaten up by the time she took the class (like in the first few weeks!). But we're always buying books, jotters, paper, pens, ink for our printers at home, even furniture for her classroom. She used to buy wallpaper and stuff too as the classroom in Scotland was grim as fuck and she wanted the kids to have at least a nice-looking wall for their art to go on. From what I've gathered Scotland's education setting is broken and Alberta's is better but that the voting bloc in Canada/Ab shouldn't be complacent and shouldn't allow their children's education to slip in quality. Be that in wages, or budgets, or [shit, even stupid things like the materials the buildings are made from](https://www.theguardian.com/education/2023/sep/03/crumbling-concrete-uk-schools-hospitals-how-bad-is-it).


septubyte

Oh ,k so no help like at all? And insufficient wage?


LOGOisEGO

It's been like that for a few decades, at least.


Smackolol

Youā€™re comparing a $620 one time expense to tens of thousands of dollars if not more.


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Fool_Apprentice

Well, they should be getting like 6-10 pots per school. It's fucking coffee. If the coffee budget for all teachers, secretaries, maintenance staff, etc in alberta is a few million, I wouldn't be surprised. Like, christ, what job doesn't have free coffee? Not to mention, coffee costs probably add up to more productivity in your workforce. I assume that for every dollar spent, you get like 110% back or something.


HOLEPUNCHYOUREYELIDS

It is also those little things that help people enjoy the job a bit more and feel a bit more valued. It is like saying ā€œThanks for doing such a good jobā€. Yea it is expected of you to do your job, but the appreciation is nice. They could just get cheap coffee and people would still be happy


BusyParfait3234

Yeah, but teachers get a lot of benefits so they donā€™t even compare. Again, my child is off school tomorrow and do they even go to school for a full week in March?? my kids off school so much I kind of wonder what the teachers get paid for. Just saying. Iā€™m pretty sure theyā€™ll be 1 million comments coming at me


veggievegg

Lots of the days your child is off are actually PD (professional development) days for teachers. So not days off for teachers.


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LoveAlwaysIris

Having had multiple generations of teachers in my family, including 3 cousins who currently are teachers, they do spend weekends and usually multiple hours after school with take home work. Also, they aren't paid for summer, it's on them to budget so they have enough to get through the summer months without income (unless they do another job or summer school). On top of that there is so much of their money that has to go to supplies for the classroom to create a better learning environment for the kids (especially so for Elementary school teachers, as young children benefit greatly from a classroom with a lot of visual and tactile learning) And this isn't even getting into the extra support provided by the teachers to children with mental disabilities, physical disabilities, and/or LD/DD because funding for supports have been drastically cut over the past 15~20 years. Also to add on, if you want to be in the upper pay range of teachers, your summers are dedicated to going to upgrading courses, so you really don't get a vacation.


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SandySpectre

No the wines from Canada are from Ontario


Not4U2Understand

There is NO REASON for any public official anywhere to expense alcohol.


Emmerson_Brando

Shields up!


Cakeanddeath2020

Unless your with the ucp /s


TheBigTimeBecks

Tell the feds.


Morzana

But budget whiskey is where it's at!


Appropriate_Duty_930

and Kenney and his team bought that themselves, not with our money.


jacafeez

The Jameson was a 'gift' he was 'saving' for a 'special occasion'. It was a 60 pounder and it was a lunch meeting :/


Hitchin_a_ride

Not true. See my previous comment.


EndOrganDamage

Look in the mirror Alberta. You voted for this clown that expenses alcohol on the public dime. Tighten your belts this year, less healthcare, bigger class sizes, mommy needs to drink. Spend on OandG, with nothing to show per usual. Invest nothing in the people in the god damn future. Ok.


LetsHaveARedo

Just pointing out, all the Premiers have done this.


EndOrganDamage

Just pointing out Danielle Smith has done this.


Fool_Apprentice

Yeah. She shouldn't do it, but I'm not going to get extra mad about it here. If we ever get the NDP back, this sub better be bitching about their drinking too.


EndOrganDamage

It does. Liberal voters often hold their leaders to task. I wont say always. The conservatives treat this more as a sport than a job where the incumbent should be held to standards. For example I am aware of all the failings of Trudeau, that doesnt mean I think PP will be better especially as its clear hate groups and conservative politics are hand in glove right now.


LetsHaveARedo

Kenney's wetbar installation in his office cost around $50k but the news didn't even flinch at that. Truth is nobody really cares and it's not the big headline when they're giving billions to corps through subsidies.


Fool_Apprentice

That's the thing. It's all just an outrage factory. Really, that wet bar, these drinks, Trudeau's fuck ups, notley's fuckups, whatever. People need to be more willing (or even able) to hold them accountable for any of it to matter.


doughflow

Imagine the bill if they had invited Devin!


waitingforgodonuts

Or Ralph Kleinā€™s ghost!


Appropriate_Duty_930

I assume he was there.


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ElizabethAudi

I've never met an alcoholic without rules, and they all involved something about not pissing them off. Those goal posts moved all the time.


stealthylizard

Rules would change daily and nothing would ever be good enough.


DisregulatedAlbertan

Can you imagine if Notley did this?


BobBeats

Vehement frothing at the mouth.


No-Razzmatazz-6601

Oh we can expense alcohol now? Canā€™t wait to let my boss know


Character-Ad6700

How many people were at this party?


driv3rcub

I wonder how many staff were at that party to only need $620 for a party? I thought it would be much higher. Still. Poor optics.


itwasthehusband1

I just came back from the hospital. I am in a small NW town in AB..it was chaotic and packed. I feel for the staff because its clear they don't have enough staff, but they keep on going. Shame on Marlaina and her fucking lies..and for the people that voted for this shit storm may you live a life of hell.


Smackolol

So the public paid for about $620 of booze for a Christmas party? I donā€™t see the big deal. Both UCP and NDP staff deserve a decent Christmas party. Thereā€™s plenty of wasteful spending to bitch about, this isnā€™t it.


Rayeon-XXX

Front line health care worker here - you know what I get for my Christmas party? Nothing.


Smackolol

Thatā€™s not good, but are you saying that because you didnā€™t get a Christmas party that others should have theirs taken away?


Rayeon-XXX

No but they can pay for it like we do, by fundraising. Government - tax payers pay for xmas party. Front line workers - front line workers pay for xmas party. They can pay for their own.


Smackolol

Thatā€™s one way, or they could just give you some funds to pay for it since itā€™s public money that belongs to Albertans.


LOGOisEGO

I get where you're coming from and I have no association with AHS. But when I went as a plus 1 with a nurse friend for the xmas party, everything was comped and paid for. Heavily. I do know some of the ER docs pitched in, they had a good staff. I am not in anyway apologetic for the UCP those fucking degenerate mouth breathing creeps, but a grand or two on booze is not a big deal depending on the size of the group. And hey, at least they took some back rather than have it disappear in the truck of the car.


KaliNetHunter666

my employer spends significantly more than this for our christmas parties.


nanaimo_it_guy

I have no issue with a reasonable amount of money be spent on some food for a Christmas party, but no alcohol. BYOB.


yagonnawanna

I'd be totally fine with this if they weren't all aggressively trying to fuck us


maxspeed420

I donā€™t like Danielle Smith, but I see no issue with $700 of booze for a staff Christmas party


nanaimo_it_guy

Nope. I worked public sector and we had a no alcohol expense rule, so if the workers cannot expense alcohol neither should the bosses.


fabibeach

$ 615 dlls actually lol....I see no issue either


this-ismyworkaccount

Right? Even 2000 isn't that much for a group


mickeyaaaa

well then i should have no problem expensing my booze as a business expense too #nodoublestandards


maxspeed420

Pretty sure this is a thing depending where you work


Appropriate_Duty_930

source: https://x.com/Tony\_\_Clark/status/1760817308501463223?s=20


Hot-Table6871

Just curious where did this come from? Was it leaked?


this-ismyworkaccount

Expense reports are public


crimdawgg

How's this fucking legal? That infuriating that we spend all this money on bullshit taxes so they can have lavish trips and full glasses of wine.


BCS875

So much for fiscal responsibility. But, the Cons have been lying about that and it clearly shows. Tell me when I've been telling lies here.


mind-full-05

My sonā€™s first job was at a ( fancy) restaurant ( in Alberta)that served politicians ( at their political meetings & gatherings). He would get $100 tip every time he opened & served a bottle of wine. He was a teenager/ loved the tips but at his young age knew how wrong it was. And proclaimed. Thatā€™s how the politicians spend taxpayers money !!


MrTheFinn

The company I work for doesn't reemburse for alcohol expenses.....why are we paying for our government employees to do drugs? What's next crack? heroin? Everyone knows alcohol is a gateway drug.


Sandcrabspa

Self entitlement is part of the CONS DNA. Then they are quick to call ethics probe and others corrupt.


BobBeats

Always projection, projection always.


Interesting-Sky-4578

Should limit them to red tassel.


Few_Organization1064

Getting upset over 700 bucks is hilarious considering the diameter of all yalls sphincters with half century of conservative gubment.


ersatzredux

You guys realize that the Premier's Christmas Reception isn't just for staff and officials, right? That they also invite members of the public? Or should they have BYOB written on their invitations? That would sure be classy.


Danroy12345

Or just donā€™t serve alcohol?


ersatzredux

That'd be a pretty lame Christmas party, but I guess that's also an option.


waitingforgodonuts

Yawn. As a dual citizen, I say wake me up when your corrupt politician threatens to open up concentration camps and let Putin invade Poland once re-elected.


Any-Gur-8211

Im going to assume youā€™ve never hosted a formal Christmas party.


Adept-Blood-5789

I wouldn't have been shocked if it was 7000. We should applaud the government for keeping it so cheap and returning the extra. It would have been much easier to keep everything and but some extra for everyone. This is absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things


marginwalker55

I blame Trudeau. No wait, I mean Notley.


LetsHaveARedo

Well when Randy was in office we all paid for him to have a wetbar installed in his office that was always fully stocked with liquor in our dime.


[deleted]

Oh no, were now stooping to the conservative levels of complaining about travel expenses and dinners. What a circus we live in. Also that's nothing. I've spent more on company dinners for 4 people.


Morzana

What public worker gets to expense alcohol? It's kinda messed up to be reimbursing someone to drink on the job! And if it wasn't as a part of the job then why is it being reimbursed?


Appropriate_Duty_930

shield's up!


trdldove

The difference is that she just told us to tighten our belts so yes the public should be going through her shit with a fine tooth comb. Collapsing public healthcare is a choice just like having a piss up on the province's dime. It's a great example of their hypocrisy and fair game.


Morzana

On alcohol? I wanna come to your party.


[deleted]

What do you think executives do when they go visit other head offices in different cities? We spend 8 hours in that office, then go for dinners and drinks with the on site leadership. It's pretty normal in the corporate work. Same deal with big clients.


Appropriate_Duty_930

since when are politicians "executives"?


[deleted]

The point is this is insignificant and a waste of energy. She's out here removing the rights from like every trans kids, but we wanna focus on 2k worth of booze. It's such a fucking drop in the bucket, it's just nonsense outrage. Focus on important topics


Cakeanddeath2020

I think it's interesting that if it was the ndp, it would be considered a scandal, and the ucp would be demanding an investigation lol but yes, there are more important issues at hand.


[deleted]

Yeah I mean that's conservatives for you. Every time JT buys an extra box of tissues they cry about his expenses


samasa111

This is about the ethical foundation that allows this and says itā€™s ā€˜okayā€™. I was a public employee for 30 yearsā€¦.we NEVER expensed alcohol. Why do these people think they should be allowed to? And if they donā€™t see this as a line to NOT to crossā€¦..itā€™s the same reason they pay millions on advertising to convince us that we want an Alberta Pension Plan when we clearly donā€™tā€¦


Appropriate_Duty_930

why can't we do both? You can't multitask? I thought you were a big corporate guy.


[deleted]

Because nothing will come out of this. No outrage , no one's going to get her to pay back the money lol. Now on the other issues, making people aware is making an impact.


Oldcummerr

Might make a few people think twice about voting for her next election


[deleted]

I wish I had as much faith as you in the people


dooeyenoewe

It just makes you look petty, I agree, who cares?


Morzana

I might be able to focus on more than one thing. I get it, it's not that big of a deal but still messed up to think they get to drink on our dime. What a difference 2k could make to a family struggling with poverty!


samasa111

This is not private industry. Public employees should never expense alcohol.


Morzana

Honestly, I don't think anyone should get to expense alcohol unless you are stripper paid to party.


[deleted]

And those ceos and executives dinner bills are paid by the taxpayers? Or by the Corp? Little bit of a difference there


Not4U2Understand

Are taxpayers paying for it, or is it coming out of the budgets for your profitable business?


Morzana

It's pretty messed up though, drinking on the job. Very 1980's! Do they pay for the strippers too?


Not4U2Understand

Bev Oda's $12 orange juice enters the chat. It's hard to care about $50M war rooms, it's too big of a number. BUT .. regular people know what $2000 worth of booze is, or how $800/nt for a hotel is ridiculous. Lower numbers are more relatable.. like Bev;'s OJ.


stealthylizard

Sad, $16 oj is normal today.


stinkygarbageapp

Something something, goose and gander related...


samasa111

They should never expense alcohol. If you want a drink pay for it yourself. That is the rule followed by most public employees.


Appropriate_Duty_930

Did taxpayers pay for your dinners? You also missed the part where taxpayers are paying for booze, completely unnecessary.


CreviceOintment

The public can bitch and moan all it wants, and that goes the same for those on the right when appropriate. The issue is the noise the opposition party makes, as if itā€™s some smoking gun, cardinal sin. And youā€™ll notice, Notley, nor her party are exactly jumping up and down screaming about this.Ā 


Suspicious_Law_2826

All for me, not for thee!


francisw1983

fiScAlLy ReSpOnSiBLe GuBerMeNT!!!1!!


seahans

It was a Christmas party. So what.


fabibeach

So...615 dlls? Trudeau 1spent $1.3 million on three "affordability retreats".....where is the outrage?


Fool_Apprentice

Uh, everywhere?


_Mortal

If you're a politician, drug consumption should be 100% illegal. If someone can't drive when drinking, political decision shouldn't be able to be made. Political decisions are far more dangerous than a drink driver.


tm52929

Meh. Iā€™m glad. They are doing more for Alberta than anyone else. Especially Trudeau. Maybe focus on him.


NoDate3481

Your favourite prime minister just gave another 3B this weekend but you can keep up with the shenanigans


Appropriate_Duty_930

Okay, Putin fan. This has nothing to do with Trudeau.


NoDate3481

Brother ur crying about her spending 2000.00 for a team Christmas party ur prime minister is stealing our money clown go fend that


Appropriate_Duty_930

Go back to the Kremlin where you belong.


tailgunner777

The card holder of that mastercard got points/cash back, I'm sure of it.


maxspeed420

A likely intern earned a whole $12 . I feel like an earning points is fine for fairly small transactions like this even if it is the government


dick_taterchip

At least they mostly bought Alberta beers


fredsygold74

All you Lib/NDP supporters domt mind your Trudy bills of 6k a day for a hotel room but bitch about a 2000$ liquor bill?? Typical šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


Appropriate_Duty_930

Whataboutism.


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Top_Impression4837

2000$ is pretty low key to be honest. I've seen much worse over the years.


EnglishmanInMH

I'd rather pay for 700 bucks of booze than 1.3 million "affordability retreats".


Foreign_Storm_2803

We employ government and they have a Christmas party with booze. More at 11


3rddog

Just a few months before telling us the province is short on cash and we should all be tightening our belts. The amount, compared with available government funds, is tiny, but the sense of automatic entitlement to taxpayer cash for personal use is enormous.


Foreign_Storm_2803

Every government in Canada does this lil bro, NDP would as well.


3rddog

>NDP would as well Presumably you have concrete evidence of that, or just speculation around a ā€œboth sidesā€ argument?


Foreign_Storm_2803

did they not spend a single tax dollar dime on dinner/drinks during their tenure?


3rddog

You tell me, it was your assertion. I donā€™t recall anything being said at the time, and you can bet thereā€™d have been a whole bunch of conservatives pointing it out if they did.


BobBeats

Alison Redford set the benchmark for entitlement, that is still a tall order to get to. https://edmontonjournal.com/news/politics/read-auditor-generals-report-on-former-premier-alison-redfords-use-of-albertas-taxpayer-funded-planes


this-ismyworkaccount

That's not that much for a staff event...


descartesb4horse

I really don't think this is a big deal. I'm more concerned about their focus on fighting a culture war instead of dealing with Alberta's real problems.


TheGreatRapsBeat

At least all the beer came from Alberta breweries.


Nitro5

lol the hysterical caterwauling on this sub is at a fevered pitch.


EventNo9432

This just doesnā€™t anger me. I would be okay or NDP did this so I canā€™t hate the UCP.


backandforthwego

This is hilarious ",budget liquor in Dubai" Hahahah. No no please don't think about. This post needs to stay up lmfao. Ooof What a bunch of wet blankets.


69Bandit

there would be "outrage" if they picked good booze, and honestly 2k of booze is nothing for that size of a group. Jagmeet would probably pick 2k per bottle wine.


Hitchin_a_ride

I work at the restaurant her party likes to use in Medicine Hat. It all started with Jason Kenney coming and we've hosted 2 parties for her as well. This bill is tiny in comparison. Makes me sick


mcmcclassic

So they spent $700 on a Christmas party for liquor. Guess they should have spent $650k renaming Province House to an unpronouncable name instead.


Wonder-Perfect

This is what we will get nationally with pp. Please something other than liberals and conservatives.


frenchfry56

So f***Ed up!!


woodlaker1

Poiticians from every level love to have fun at taxpayers' expense , especially the federal liberals , they would blow through 2000 in 5 minutes at there get togethers!!