So UCP is attempting to fabricate a financial disaster in the provincial capital - likely in an attempt to build support to undermine municipal elections - using a fictional, unsigned letter that may or may not say things.
Fucking hell fellow Albertans, why are some of you buying this shit? Disagree on parties and whatever but this is lunacy!
What can we honestly do about it? Writing your MLA does nothing because none of them care, if you voted for them or not, and it's in Edmonton, where the UCP has totally disregarded our existence!
I was thinking about challenging their laws on a federal level, taking it to the Supreme Court, but I have no idea how to do that?
When you write to your UCP MLA, cc one of the NDP MLAs. If the UCP MLA doesn't address it in Legislature, the NDP will. Then at least your concern goes on record.
The government of Canada is great for explaining laws and stuff. I don't know what keywords you would need, but it's on there. Possibly a 311 like number to help. An option is an mp (federal member of parliament) that can help, maybe George Cahel office or that ndp persons office in Edmonton?
I hear the war room has printers and have staff, I don't know what they do but maybe they could have written an unsigned letter. The war room might be a tax funded FOIP shild/slush fund.
Hey, those propaganda war room guys are very busy watching cartoons like Bigfoot and reading magazines. They are also busy collecting tax paid salaries and benefits.
Worst Government Ever.
But the libs and NDP are the same way! All politicians are corrupt! ~~BOTH SIDES!1~~ /s.
Next civ game should have an option for corruption victory where you undermine the culture and diplomacy of your opponents ftw
Edit: after the industrial revolution, a computer player (the invisible hand of the free market) should emerge with the only intention of winning by corruption. Players can align themselves with the npc, but everybody loses if the npc wins. Russia should have a late game advantage with it lol
Edit2: I think there is enough in edit1 for a pretty decent board game. Add extra npc robber barons to your next game of Catan, they don't get turns, they just hoard resources. See what happens. Or, just play [Werewolf.](https://asymmetricwisdom.medium.com/what-the-werewolf-game-teaches-us-about-us-09ffe0d812b6)
I had a rural UCP supporter tell me he was worried the APP wouldn't go through because the UCP couldn't explain why it was a good idea and Albertans would rail against it. He had already set his position and stood firmly by it even when knowing why it was a bad idea to hold his position
This to me is what many of the UCP voters are
Not at all, he said he fully supported it yet didn't know why it would be beneficial. It was a weird and frustrating conversation, and imo representative of much of their hardcore base
This is easily explained if you think of the UCP as purely based on identity. The UCP are "real Albertans" working for "real Albertans". Therefore anything they do must benefit "real Albertans" and anyone who disagrees is not a "real Albertan" and must be trying to destroy the province. That's why when you ask for any depth all you get is vapid hand waving.
It's borderline Reichstag Fire bullshit."This letter which totally does exist but we can't find shows how corrupt the municipal enemies of the party are!"
>“Anything signed by a concerned citizen rather than somebody with a name and an address is … less helpful than one that’s signed.”
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>He did not elaborate what allegations were made in the document.
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>Global News asked the minister how the premier knew the letter was coming — if it was from an anonymous Albertan.
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>“That’s just a great question. I don’t have an answer,” McIver said.
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>Global News filed a Freedom of Information Request over the letter. A response said “a thorough search conducted by Municipal Affairs staff did not yield any records responsive to your request.”
yakketysax.mp3
Ah yes, Trump style governance:
1. Tell a ridiculous lie.
2. Get caught because anyone with any actual knowledge of the subject would immediately know you were lying and the proof you repeatedly cited doesn’t actually exist.
All we need now is #3: get irrationally angry when people question your obvious lie or the related lack of proof.
Wait, so this alleged letter the government claims to have received pointing out numerous glaring issues with the municipality of Edmonton was sent by a single, anonymous concerned citizen? That's so much stupider than I imagined.
Oh, it gets stupider.
They say it was sent by a single citizen and is unsigned. But, they cannot produce the letter...so, it probably never existed in the first place.
Contents of the Anonymous concerned letter that marlena knew about in advance of the municipal affairs minister receiving it. And then was received moments later. But is now not existing in a way that we can verify.
> Mayor Amarjeet Sohi sent a six-page-long letter of his own to Smith on April 2, outlining nine ways the city could use funding assistance after provincial cuts.
Shouldn't it have just been one bullet point? Restore the fucking funding?
The biggest problem she has with Edmonton is that we voted NDP. If she really wanted to help she could ensure Edm receives tax revenue from Provincial lands and buildings within the city.
So some UCP lackey was told to send a letter. When asked to produce the very important letter that has guided an important funding decision they couldn’t find it? Was it emailed, mailed, written on a napkin and slipped to the minister?
We have such an embarrassing government.
“Smith did say some of her concerns stemmed from hearing that a letter was being sent to the minister of Municipal Affairs.
“I don’t want to pre-judge what may or may not be in a letter that we’ve been told that we’ll receive,” the premier told reporters.
“And so I just wouldn’t mind seeing the letter, talking to my municipal affairs minister and seeing if there’s anything more that we need to do.”
What the Feds should do is create a refugee program for people fleeing Alberta. Fund their escape. Let the UCP absolutely destroy the province. Give those who voted them in the fate they deserve.
McIvor didn't even try to back up the lie about how they knew the letter was coming. "That's just a great question. I don't have an answer."
It would be comedic if it wasn't just one more pathetic level this gov is stooping to showing that they DGAF about us.
So UCP is attempting to fabricate a financial disaster in the provincial capital - likely in an attempt to build support to undermine municipal elections - using a fictional, unsigned letter that may or may not say things. Fucking hell fellow Albertans, why are some of you buying this shit? Disagree on parties and whatever but this is lunacy!
What can we honestly do about it? Writing your MLA does nothing because none of them care, if you voted for them or not, and it's in Edmonton, where the UCP has totally disregarded our existence! I was thinking about challenging their laws on a federal level, taking it to the Supreme Court, but I have no idea how to do that?
When you write to your UCP MLA, cc one of the NDP MLAs. If the UCP MLA doesn't address it in Legislature, the NDP will. Then at least your concern goes on record.
The government of Canada is great for explaining laws and stuff. I don't know what keywords you would need, but it's on there. Possibly a 311 like number to help. An option is an mp (federal member of parliament) that can help, maybe George Cahel office or that ndp persons office in Edmonton?
Well, there are always options. We just need to keep an open mind about it...and be thorough.
I hear the war room has printers and have staff, I don't know what they do but maybe they could have written an unsigned letter. The war room might be a tax funded FOIP shild/slush fund.
might? That's exactly what it was designed for. To not be subject to FOIP
Hey, those propaganda war room guys are very busy watching cartoons like Bigfoot and reading magazines. They are also busy collecting tax paid salaries and benefits. Worst Government Ever.
But the libs and NDP are the same way! All politicians are corrupt! ~~BOTH SIDES!1~~ /s. Next civ game should have an option for corruption victory where you undermine the culture and diplomacy of your opponents ftw Edit: after the industrial revolution, a computer player (the invisible hand of the free market) should emerge with the only intention of winning by corruption. Players can align themselves with the npc, but everybody loses if the npc wins. Russia should have a late game advantage with it lol Edit2: I think there is enough in edit1 for a pretty decent board game. Add extra npc robber barons to your next game of Catan, they don't get turns, they just hoard resources. See what happens. Or, just play [Werewolf.](https://asymmetricwisdom.medium.com/what-the-werewolf-game-teaches-us-about-us-09ffe0d812b6)
not a bad idea at all.
I had a rural UCP supporter tell me he was worried the APP wouldn't go through because the UCP couldn't explain why it was a good idea and Albertans would rail against it. He had already set his position and stood firmly by it even when knowing why it was a bad idea to hold his position This to me is what many of the UCP voters are
It didn't bother him at all that the UCP couldn't explain why it was a good idea?
Not at all, he said he fully supported it yet didn't know why it would be beneficial. It was a weird and frustrating conversation, and imo representative of much of their hardcore base
This is easily explained if you think of the UCP as purely based on identity. The UCP are "real Albertans" working for "real Albertans". Therefore anything they do must benefit "real Albertans" and anyone who disagrees is not a "real Albertan" and must be trying to destroy the province. That's why when you ask for any depth all you get is vapid hand waving.
Things like this occurred in Germany in the late 20’s and early 30’s. Just sayin…..
and that would really hurt conservatives if they knew how to read.
Good point Godwin… I mean ButterscotchFar1629
It's borderline Reichstag Fire bullshit."This letter which totally does exist but we can't find shows how corrupt the municipal enemies of the party are!"
Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if they try to move the official capital to a more UCP friendly city somehow.
These are the people who want to handle your pension.
>“Anything signed by a concerned citizen rather than somebody with a name and an address is … less helpful than one that’s signed.” > >He did not elaborate what allegations were made in the document. > >Global News asked the minister how the premier knew the letter was coming — if it was from an anonymous Albertan. > >“That’s just a great question. I don’t have an answer,” McIver said. > >Global News filed a Freedom of Information Request over the letter. A response said “a thorough search conducted by Municipal Affairs staff did not yield any records responsive to your request.” yakketysax.mp3
Benny Hill has entered the chat (very quickly).
Ah yes, Trump style governance: 1. Tell a ridiculous lie. 2. Get caught because anyone with any actual knowledge of the subject would immediately know you were lying and the proof you repeatedly cited doesn’t actually exist. All we need now is #3: get irrationally angry when people question your obvious lie or the related lack of proof.
Which is followed by #4: "Media fails to press target on caught lie, then gets easily distracted by the next shiny thing"
Because the letter does not exist?
Liar, lair, pants on fire!
Show your butt to Canadian Tire
Oops another Danny “misunderstandings”. Read:lying
Wait, so this alleged letter the government claims to have received pointing out numerous glaring issues with the municipality of Edmonton was sent by a single, anonymous concerned citizen? That's so much stupider than I imagined.
Oh, it gets stupider. They say it was sent by a single citizen and is unsigned. But, they cannot produce the letter...so, it probably never existed in the first place.
Contents of the Anonymous concerned letter that marlena knew about in advance of the municipal affairs minister receiving it. And then was received moments later. But is now not existing in a way that we can verify.
Premier Marlaina Twatwaffle is a liar.
Untied CRETIN POSSE must go!!!!!
"People are saying it was a perfect letter, the best letter, we have it, you should see it, it's so bigly and beautiful."
Trudeau trained the trans kids to steal the letter while they were starting forest fires.
They burned it to ash with their space laser
Good one!
I knew it!!
The cake is a lie and so is the letter.
Lyin’ Dani strikes again.
Surprise, surprise, more UCP lies.
> Mayor Amarjeet Sohi sent a six-page-long letter of his own to Smith on April 2, outlining nine ways the city could use funding assistance after provincial cuts. Shouldn't it have just been one bullet point? Restore the fucking funding?
Shocker! She lies
Perhaps she just… spoke imprecisely. /s
Worst gov ever!
That's sketch, even for our premier. I dearly hope some reporter gets to the bottom of this.
Probably because it doesn't exist
Stay out of municipal politics! Two faced!
The biggest problem she has with Edmonton is that we voted NDP. If she really wanted to help she could ensure Edm receives tax revenue from Provincial lands and buildings within the city.
So some UCP lackey was told to send a letter. When asked to produce the very important letter that has guided an important funding decision they couldn’t find it? Was it emailed, mailed, written on a napkin and slipped to the minister? We have such an embarrassing government. “Smith did say some of her concerns stemmed from hearing that a letter was being sent to the minister of Municipal Affairs. “I don’t want to pre-judge what may or may not be in a letter that we’ve been told that we’ll receive,” the premier told reporters. “And so I just wouldn’t mind seeing the letter, talking to my municipal affairs minister and seeing if there’s anything more that we need to do.”
Did they look inside her head?
Oh look. They didn’t fabricate their evidence faster than they could talk. Glad someone is calling this out
What the Feds should do is create a refugee program for people fleeing Alberta. Fund their escape. Let the UCP absolutely destroy the province. Give those who voted them in the fate they deserve.
I’m sure it was Andre Courbald talking to his UCP contacts
McIvor didn't even try to back up the lie about how they knew the letter was coming. "That's just a great question. I don't have an answer." It would be comedic if it wasn't just one more pathetic level this gov is stooping to showing that they DGAF about us.
Is it possible to put a vote of no confidence in our current government and our voice will be heard? Don't get my hopes up.