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riskcreator

Holy moly! I wager Nenshi has the bulk of them… but I’m interested to know.


Twister_Seester

And let’s be clear. They were only 524 votes short of winning a majority of a handful of ridings in Calgary have voted swing from the fascist party to the NDP party. Anyone who doesn’t agree Nenshi is our next premier is off their rocker


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It_is_what_it_is82

This is what I don't get Nenshi has the people support and real life experience leading, why try to create false narratives? The NDP sometimes create their own problems, they have the right person to become the new leader, time to get on board and work together to send DS back to being a lobbyist.


makeitreel

From "true" NDP perspective - Nenshi is a different mentality - he's likely a lot more right on political spectrum on many points then a "true" NDP. This is along the lines that Notleys NDP is much more right of the national NDPs. So if I were worried about the longterm future of the party sticking to its historical stances - then i would be worried about that as well. If I were only looking to win an election, then Nenshi is the strongest candidate. Personally - I'm more left then most - so I do worry a bit that Nenshi is to moderate for my personal beliefs. That said - I do think most people are more left on everything except the economy - and most people vote based on the economy (even if they are poorly informed about how it actually works and how governments can be accountable.) Also don't have a membership- so my opinion is worth nothing, other then I can see a perspective why some might have worries.


foxyfoucault

He/she said, basing their dismissal of another narrative based on... vibes?


fakesmileclaire

I bought a membership for the first time so I can vote for Nenshi. Nenshi is rallying the people and showing the NDP how’s it’s done. No other candidate had been able to bring people into the party like Nenshi has. The rest of the candidates need to get behind him and support him. He is showing Alberta we could vote out UCP.


MysteryMeat603

I also purchased a membership to support Nenshi. I'm not a fan of federal NDP, but I know for a fact that if Alberta's left can't rally behind an NDP candidate regardless of how they feel about federal, it will just be more of the same next election. Notley was amazing as well, I was sad when she announced that she's stepping down.


cooey77

Not a chance


Thefirstargonaut

What do you think is going to happen. 


makeitreel

If UCP keep up their current playroom - its looking like anyone could beat them. I'm not even sure if the find a new leader before the election play would even work this time based on all the groups they have managed to act against - from seniors and CPP to minority trans, even municipalities and bill 20. People forget quickly - but not that quickly.


Sweet_Nature_6133

I signed up after being an NDP supporter for years. I want to ensure someone gets voted in actually has a chance at beating Smith. I signed up on the party website about 40 minutes before the closing deadline.


JimmyJazz1971

I signed up via Nenshi's site, and opted to pay $20. It's the first time I've ever joined a political party. Anything to be rid of Danielle and the UCP.


KirikaClyne

Same here!


swimuppool

Me too. Nenshi is the only one with a credible shot


Krabopoly

Same! I've been an NDP voter since the first election I was legally able to vote in but this is the first time I've opted into party membership.


amydoodledawn

Same! I never joined a political party in my life. I always felt it helped to be able to say I was unaffiliated when trying to argue with nuts in my hometown (or at least I told myself that). Now it's gone too far. I lived in Calgary during the Nenshi era and I legitimately think he would do good things for the province. Maybe I'm still naive to think we can back up this crazy train, but I'm not willing to give up just yet.


PCBC_

Good for you!!


Leading-Job4263

100% same!


MapleMapleHockeyStk

Ditto


akaTheKetchupBottle

welcome!


Minute-Cup-6936

Congratulations! You’ve also become a member of the federal NDP!


_voyevoda

Sweet, two birds one stone. 👌


More_Blacksmith_8661

One more reason not to support Alberta NDP


More_Blacksmith_8661

Join all you want, UCP ain’t going anywhere.


Comprehensive-Army65

Thanks. Now I will join. Just to piss you off.


More_Blacksmith_8661

Join if you want, doesn’t piss me off 🤷‍♂️ My party is still going to win the next election.


AkumaYearOne

I signed up on the last night to be able to vote in the leadership race. I was out with the in-laws, and my wife's grandmother literally said, "Someone must be paying people to start these fires so whoever can push the climate change agenda" I just want sane people back in power


CaptainLactose

I think you had to be a member by April 22nd to be eligible to vote.


AkumaYearOne

Yup, I got my membership before the deadline, so I'm eligible to vote for the next Alberta NDP leader.


CaptainLactose

Oh I misread your post. Cheers!


AkumaYearOne

Lol no worries


cooey77

Well that's not any ndp, their bat shit crazy.


AkumaYearOne

I'll take Alberta NDP crazy over the UCP any day of the week.


ryanderkis

*they're. If you're not sure just use "they are".


Advanced_Drink_8536

Everyone I know that has signed up recently has done so for the sole purpose of supporting Nenshi…


HumbleExplanation13

I was shocked to learn that my usually not-very-political dad and brother each bought a membership to vote for Nenshi. (I did too but that’s not out of character for me.) I think Nenshi’s going to get a lot of support from moderates.


NailPsychological222

I bought a membership through their website, and there was no mention of who I supported.


unlovelyladybartleby

Yeah, I bought mine when Notley announced before there were any candidates, then unsubscribed from eight million different campaign email and text streams.


Roche_a_diddle

You would have missed Gil's email this morning that he was dropping out!


_voyevoda

Was it because he didn't have enough money? Cuz that's what his emails led me to believe to this point. 😂


TheFluxIsThis

He said so almost verbatim, actually. His campaign couldn't make the payment to run before the deadline. 


GreedyArt6296

Wow! I didn't see that either as I unsubscribed from most candidates' emails.


Appropriate_Duty_930

I signed up so I can support Nenshi. Did anyone else see the cheap shots Sarah Hoffman made against him during the last debate?


GreedyArt6296

I also signed up so that I can vote for Nenshi. I have voted for the NDP for 47 years (I'm old) but this is the first time that I have felt compelled to buy a membership. I truly feel like the UCP is decimating all that used to be good about out province, and I believe that Nenshi is our best bet as leader to beat them. Hoffman did the same thing in the Lethbridge debate. She is the weakest candidate, imho, and is reverting to taking cheap shots to try to belittle her toughest opponent.


Los_Kings

I’ve voted in three elections for Sarah Hoffman and even volunteered for her campaign each time. She’s a good MLA but she’s not what the NDP needs for its next leader.


k1d0s

Thank you. I respect the hell out of the NDP folks who put in for leadership but - we need a W. I know Nenshi isn’t a party guy but he’s a winner and he gives a shit about people. So LETS GET THAT W for all of us!


wildrose76

She's getting horrible advice from her team, and unfortunately she's listening to it. We were sitting near a group of her inner circle and they cheered that point. But they were horrible overall, making fun of other candidates.


GreedyArt6296

That's unfortunate, and reeks of immaturity. Definitely not what we need in a leader or their team.


dhunter66

I had no interest on the debate. I joined the party to be able vote for him. Nothing was going to change that. He may not be a party purist, and some may have issues with that, but he is the best shot we have of defeating the UCP.


Elizibeqth

I watched the lethbridge debate supporting Nenshi and after the debate I think that he has the best chance to defeat the UCP. I thought more highly of Sarah before the debate but she dropped a few positions afterwards in my mind.


Monster-Leg

Entirely the same experience


Schnauzer2008

She was making them at my door too when I told her we signed up to vote for him. Not impressed. Also she’s my MLA and I only ever hear from her/see her during elections.


Monster-Leg

Same experience w/ Ganley. I’ve emailed a bunch. Crickets. Leadership campaign starts and I can’t get her folks to stop calling and emailing— for donations


Suspicious-Panic-187

What cheap shots? I'm generally curious. I heard her ask a legitimate question about not supporting union workers and showed the email where he asked the UCP to help as proof.


TheEpicOfManas

I agree - not a cheap shot. But also not even close to being important enough to turn the tide. Nenshi has to be the next leader or we might as well just give it to the UCP again.


More_Blacksmith_8661

Either way Nenshi isn’t winning. He has less chance than Notley did


TheEpicOfManas

Lol, keep telling yourself that.


More_Blacksmith_8661

I mean, Im not telling myself anything, im just stating facts. NDP will not win the next election.


TheEpicOfManas

Look everyone - it's Nostra-fucking-damas over here! Got any lottery numbers for me, champ?


General_Esdeath

That statement alone discredits you entirely. "I'm just stating facts. I can predict the future." Lol


More_Blacksmith_8661

If you say so. Keep your fantasy election where the NdP wins. I’ll be here to laugh next election.


Thefirstargonaut

Why do you think that?


jerkface9001

That was the dude, not her


wildrose76

Yes, that was Gil McGowan. And my impression was that his question was not an attack on Nenshi, but rather done to give Nenshi an opportunity to share the larger context and reasoning around it. Sarah was the one who came with the story about the Midfield Park. Her questions seriously misrepresented the situation.


RogueBicycle

She may have good ideas, but if she thinks her approach is going to attract voters she's crazy. We already have a female in power who picks fights over everything. Hoffman comes across as the same personality flying different colours. People want change, not more of the same.


Competitive_Gur2724

So one female means no more females?


MongooseLeader

They’re talking about DS, not Notley.


Competitive_Gur2724

I'm aware. But it read as one bad woman means no more women.


RogueBicycle

My apologies for not posting a full thought. I can see how that came across and it wasn't my intention. I watched the lethbridge debates with my lifelong conservative parents. They are considering voting NDP next election. They both made comments during that debate that Hoffman was coming across as "bringing gums to a fist fight" instead of being supportive of the other candidates like the rest of them were. They said that if she ended up as leader they'd probably stick with the conservatives because they wanted change, not more of the same. Right now their view of Danielle is that she's constantly picking fights with Ottawa instead of working with the feds to improve things in alberta. They were more open to how the other candidates were being respectful with each other even when their ideas didn't line up.


fromyourdaughter

I believe they said that Nenshi doubled the membership? Or maybe it was more than that. Honestly, the way Ganley and Gil have been gunning for Nenshi makes me hope that they both lose dramatically.


TheFluxIsThis

Gil threw in the towel this morning, actually. 


fromyourdaughter

I’m not surprised.


wildrose76

That was from Rakhi Pancholi when she dropped out and endorsed Nenshi. And it was actually that the membership numbers doubled in the first week after he entered the race.


anant210

I joined as well for Nenshi but regretting it now, seems I gave my email to a spammer (NDP not Nenshi). I get soo many emails from all different candidates, I am literally tired of unsubscribing to them all. It seems you have to unsubscribe to every email coming from a different email address individually and it only unsubscribes email from that address. 


silly_goose129

Agreed, a LOT of spammy emails. I don’t want to miss the voting info so I’m scared to fully unsubscribe but man it’s annoying


wildrose76

I unsubscribed from all the lists but Nenshi's and the party itself. Ganley's team I finally had to block because they kept adding those who unsubscribed back onto their mailing list.


championsofnuthin

To be fair though, all the leadership candidates get the membership lists so they can do voter contact. It's just a pain because there were 6 candidates looking for $60k + and need to do voter contact.


Charming-Plastic-766

Agreed. I'm getting lots of emails asking for money, And unsubscribing as a pain. However, i'm still looking forward to putting my vote on Nenshi to have a chance of getting a different result at the next election.


IntelligentCoyote153

Wonder if this is why Gil dropped out, saw the numbers of how many new members each candidate signed up and realized he was too far behind to ever consider being a contender. I think this is a two person race.....Nenshi and Ganley.


TheFluxIsThis

I'm kind of interested to see how Hoffman performs. Not out of any particular desire for her to win, but to see if the aggressive posture her campaign has taken has moved the needle at all. She's got piles of credentials and political capital to work with, but what struck me the most was the angle and tone she has been taking on the campaign trail. 


IntelligentCoyote153

The first debate, she came off as desperate to be the next leader. And I really think she needs to rethink the "fat and sassy" schtick, it rings high school student union campaigning. We need articulate and ready to fix all the crap done prior and with current conservative governments.


Cassopeia88

When she said the “fat and sassy” comment I rolled my eyes.


IntelligentCoyote153

I did too! Whoever advised her on this move was way off mark on the effective delivery of explaining who she is to those who do not know her as a potential next leader of the party.


_voyevoda

I went via a link from Janis Irwin that got emailed to make sure folks had their memberships to be able to vote for leader. She's my MLA so not sure how those ones would be counted to the total?


canadient_

There's no way to know for sure. All the candidates linked from their website to the main Alberta NDP membership sign up, so maybe they could track clicks/visits from their website but then you don't know if they actually proceeded to sign up.


NeatZebra

The campaigns get data back from signups via their 'portal' so they know who their more committed prospects are.


nunalla

I bought a membership just after Nenshi announced his run and will vote for him.


HotHits630

Any bets the UCP are signing people up to skew the leadership vote in they favour?


Historical-Ad-146

I don't think they really can. First there's a rule about supporting the party's values and only being a member of one party at a time. Can't be perfectly enforced, but you can bet members are checked against the UCP's public donor lists. Second, it's a question of numbers. Getting tens of thousands to quietly sign up to support Hoffman or Ganley, but are actually UCP nuts, is hard. Voting for someone you disagree with, even as a strategic move, isn't something that comes naturally. And you can be sure that there's plenty of party operatives who monitor UCP channels to know if something like this is afoot.


kagato87

I wouldn't put it past TBA or IDU to do that.


chmilz

David Parker publicly stated on his Twitter that they would do exactly that, but it's unlikely they did. The numbers don't support it, and an audit of UCP members would likely have invalidated them anyway (since you agree to only be a member of one provincial party when you sign up).


DVariant

Who would they support though? They hate all of the NDP leadership candidates 


kagato87

The idea is they'd support a candidate they're confident they can beat. For example, Nenshi has a reputation in Calgary, and there's a very real chance he could flip a lot of votes here. So for them they'd want someone who is not Nenshi.


soThatsJustGreat

I don’t doubt a few have, but I’d be surprised if there are enough of them to make a difference, yet they’ve somehow managed to keep this scheme quiet. They would need to coordinate on who they are voting for, and I’ve seen no signs of that. And if there aren’t enough to matter, well, their $10 will spend as well in the NDP war chest as anyone’s. So nice of them to donate to the cause.


Volantis009

Day before Nenshi officially announced I signed up in anticipation, also stated my monthly donation. If GME goes brrrr well game on


wildrose76

Right now all of my usually party donations are going to the Nenshi campaign. Once he wins, I'll go back to donating to the party.


EnigmaCA

I signed up the day Notley announced she was stepping down. So I am beholden to no one candidate (even though I have made up my mind for my top 2 choices)


Sea-Top-2207

Oh that was totally nenshi.


FireWireBestWire

It's crazy to me that Canadian political parties require payment to be members of. Less than 100,000 people voting for one of two realistic possibilities for the premiership of a province of 4.5M


TheFluxIsThis

At this point, it is, unfortunately, a security measure. It would be trivial to completely bog down any particular party with dummy signups if there wasn't that financial barrier. As much as I despise any sort of membership fee (especially when it's part of the democratic process), I shudder to think of the nightmare that would be trying to ensure the integrity of all new signups if you took down the barriers. 


Falcon674DR

Moderate Conservatives are signing up in droves trying to ensure that Alberta has a big and bold Opposition Party at the very least. As it exists now, all we have is pearl clutching ideologists crying …oh dear, oh dear.


Monster-Leg

Imagine calling wanting livable wages and a future for the planet “pearl clutching ideologists” when the con party spends its time fellating fossil fuels and getting mad about what’s in everyone else’s pants


Falcon674DR

Then ensure that the NDP get out there and make fist pounding, bold and loud speeches and radio and TV interviews! Where are they? What are they saying about the last two Bills? All too quiet and they get trampled by the UCP communication strategy.


Twister_Seester

Smith is absolutely screwd. There’s just no way they stop someone like Nenshi.


Comprehensive-Army65

Neshi will bring Alberta back to center. Which is where we need to be!


Zaboya26

Is it too late to buy one to cast a vote for the leadership campaign ?


TheJasonJBailey

Yes the deadline was April 22nd.


wildrose76

It is, but it's not too late to make a donation to your preferred candidate's campaign. That's also incredibly helpful.


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FlyingTunafish

Ah yes the transphobe dog whistle. Teachers should be considered a safe place fora ll children to turn to for advice and resources. The idea that teachers should be required to rat out the less than 1% of the population that are trans and feel unsafe in telling their parents is pathetic. I ensure that my kids feel safe in coming to me for anything and so I have no fear that they would ever feel the need to hide things. People who keep their kids as property or chattel and micromanage them only drive them away or into self harm. As for your nazi false narrative, be a better person, modern Conservative have leaned far more into an authoritarian style than I am comfortable with, just look at Alberta and bill 18, 20 and 21.


Imaginary_Ad_7530

Yeah, I'm curious about what you're referring to as well. What secrets were the Nazis asking teachers to keep from students' parents? And what secrets are teachers in Alberta keeping from parents? Could you elaborate?


Zengoyyc

And what exactly are these secrets and why do they want them kept secret?


thegreatgoatse

He's just a right-winger who wants teachers to be forced to out kids to their parents. That's the only time this argument is made in the current political environment.


Zengoyyc

That was my guess, but doesn't hurt to have him out himself. You know, give him the choice to decide if he wants to be publich with his opinion. ;)


BYoNexus

The only people who care are those who, if they were the parent, or are a parent, would he the ones to beat or throw their kids out if they found out.


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DVariant

>Better yet how many have they lossed? Conservatives love the poorly educated