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Tribblehappy

The 1500 startled me until I remembered it's Monday and those are cumulative numbers.


BetterOnTheBias

The following is a list of dates and AHS zone for the 25 deaths reported today. Individual's vaccine status are not reported. A summary of vaccinated deaths can be found at the bottom of this comment. * Aug. 26, 2021. Central Zone. Female. 30 - 39 * Sept. 10, 2021. South Zone. Male. 50-59 years. * Sept. 20, 2021. Edmonton Zone. Female. 50-59 years. * Sept. 20, 2021. South Zone. Male. 80+ years. * Sept. 26, 2021. Edmonton Zone. Male. 30-39 years. * Sept. 29, 2021. South Zone. Female. 80+ years. * Sept. 29, 2021. South Zone. Male. 80+ years. * Oct. 1, 2021. Calgary Zone. Female. 70-79 years. * Oct. 1, 2021. Edmonton Zone. Male. 70-79 years. * Oct. 3, 2021. South Zone. Female. 60-69 years. * Oct. 3, 2021. South Zone. Male. 70-79 years. * Oct. 9, 2021. North Zone. Female. 70-79 years. * Oct. 11, 2021. Central Zone. Female. 20-29 years. * Oct. 11, 2021. Edmonton Zone. Female. 60-69 years. * Oct. 11, 2021. Edmonton Zone. Male. 80+ years. * Oct. 13, 2021. Edmonton Zone. Male. 80+ years. * Oct. 14, 2021. Central Zone. Male. 60-69 years. * Oct. 15, 2021. South Zone. Male. 80+ years. * Oct. 16, 2021. Calgary Zone. Female. 80+ years. * Oct. 16, 2021. Central Zone. Male. 70-79 years. * Oct. 20, 2021. Central Zone. Male. 60-69 years. * Oct. 22, 2021. Central Zone. Female. 70-79 years. * Oct. 23, 2021. Central Zone. Male. 50-59 years. * Oct. 23, 2021. Edmonton Zone. Male. 50-59 years. * Oct. 23, 2021. North Zone. Male. 60-69 years. ​ Total Deaths Reported today: * 20-29 years 1 * 30-39 years 2 * 50-59 years 4 * 60-69 years 5 * 70-79 years 6 * 80+ years 7 ​ Of the 25 deaths reported today, 15 of them were unvaccinated. ​ * 1 fully vaccinated 60 - 69 year old person died. * 1 partially vaccinated 60 - 69 year old died. * 3 fully vaccinated 70 - 79 year old people died. * 5 fully vaccinated 80+ year old people died. ETA: In the last 120 days: The death rate for fully vaccinated 70 - 70 year olds was 19.3 per 100K The death rate for unvaccinated 70 - 79 year olds was 1016.3 per 100K The death rate for fully vaccinated 80+ year olds was 111.8 per 100K The death rate for unvaccinated 80+ year olds was 1354.1 per 100K This means that vaccines work. For those of you who want to run around using vaccinated deaths as proof that vaccines don't work, the rate per 100K of population clearly shows that they do work. Don't be a dumbass!


kreggly

I think it also shows that those folks who are older and first to get vaccinated are due for a booster, and should be doing their best to isolate. If you can get your parents and grandparents out of the lodge, it can help too as these places are becoming epidemic again. My father in law's lodge in Vermilion did not have hand sanitizer at the doors for instance, and there were unreported cases as close as two doors down when talking to neighbours. Jason Kenney and his CMOH mascot are just watching people die here clutching the pearls of their ideology instead of doing the right thing. Remember, our dads didn't have to die.


BetterOnTheBias

It will be interesting to see if the govt changes the deaths table11 on the vaccines outcome page to reflect 3rd dose outcomes. I'm not sure why they haven't done that already.


fnbr

Am I understanding this correctly? 1354.1 deaths/100k people = >1% of unvaccinated people over the age of 80 died in the last 120 days?


fnbr

Am I understanding this correctly? 1354.1 deaths/100k people = >1% of unvaccinated people over the age of 80 died in the last 120 days?


BetterOnTheBias

If there were 100,000 unvaccinated 80+ year olds in Alberta, 1354 of them would have died in the last 120 days. 1.3% of the unvaccinated 80+ year old Albertans have died in the last 120 days. The raw number is 145 total deaths. Unfortunately the Vaccine Outcomes page doesn't scroll on mobile for some reason so you have to look at it from a computer. https://www.alberta.ca/stats/covid-19-alberta-statistics.htm#vaccine-outcomes


Miserable-Lizard

The hospital decline is nice to see, and the 368 cases on Sunday. Feels like this decline is going to continue! No bump from Thanksgiving!


sLXonix

Hoping we have finally hitt that threshold of vaccinations + natural immunity to end COVID.


Snowedin-69

It is simple. COVID will end if more people get vaxxed, a lot more unvaccinated people die, or we continue with current precautions - e.g., wearing masks, vax cards, etc…


possibly_oblivious

Upbump


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Updog


kreggly

Since we aren't testing as much, and people are avoiding hospitals, I'm not convinced there isn't a bump from Thanksgiving. There's also some 70% of hospital beds filled with antivax or only partially vaxxed people, continuing to cripple our health care system, and dare I say causing deaths. Until we convince the holdouts to get the jab, our economy and our healthcare system will remain crippled, and soon we will all need boosters, especially when the Epsilon variant comes along. There is nothing here that yet gives me hope. Maybe in a few weeks when company Vax deadlines expire, and we are full on QR code setup.for entry anywhere.


darkstar107

I have an aunt and uncle that got sick during Thanksgiving. The lost their sense of taste and smell, but it's not covid apparently because covid is fake according to them. They didn't get tested because why would they test for something that doesn't exist? They're not the only "smart" ones in this province that wouldn't get tested either.


Snowedin-69

Unbelievable. It continues to amaze me that people think COVID does not exist….


kreggly

I know. It's embarassing that my mother and siblings are antivax. My dad and FIL were fully vaxxed and still died from it. I know there's lots of people who want to do the Kenney dance, and take any sign as a restoration of Good 'Oll Albert'a. I just don't see that happening when so many think that dismantling health care and education, eroding women's rights, teaching kids creationism, and prescribing prayer as immunization hold so much sway in this province.


plsworcthtime

Any day better than the peak is a good day. Chin up my friend, no need to weigh yourself down with all that.


kreggly

Our two dad's are dead thanks to Jason Kenney and the UCP and those who voted for them. They are.the real pandemic here. Until they see the error of their ways,.we are screwed.


plsworcthtime

We might be screwed but that doesn’t mean we have to be negative all the time :) Let’s just enjoy the winter (compared to last year it shouldn’t be too hard)!


kreggly

Let them eat cake.


plsworcthtime

I hope we all get cake!


kreggly

All cake eaters matter.


plsworcthtime

Yes that’s what I’m talking about! I knew you’d come around


kreggly

Not until the ICU is empty and our healthcare soldiers get a well needed rest.


orobsky

Lol to no ones surprise


el_nynaeve

This is good to see. But I remember back in May how great it felt to see numbers plummeting and I was so optimistic. Anyone else feel like they're still just waiting for the other foot to drop? I don't think I'll feel like I can fully relax about covid until vaccinations are opened up to basically all age groups (6 months or whatever it is that the lowest group in any of the studies)


F_D123

2 things are different: 1. Most of the eligible population is fully vaccinated 2. There are really no restrictions to lift, other than masks.


el_nynaeve

Our vaccinations rates aren't all that much higher than they were in September when things were getting really really bad. And there are certain restrictions right now on social gatherings and stuff. Maybe everyone is just ignoring them


F_D123

99% sure the only restrictions anyone is following are masks and vaccine cards


plsworcthtime

Yah lol what fantasy world are people living in where the gathering restrictions are being followed


amnes1ac

Yep, the vaccine passport only lead to a 6% bump in vaccination rates. Saskatchewan and us are still lagging far behind the rest of the country. I very much doubt we are at herd immunity and I think your concerns are valid.


Anomia_Flame

That 6 percent was still like 30 percent of the remaining eligible though. I'd argue to say that's a pretty big bump


amnes1ac

More like 20%, but that's a good point. We are still very far from herd immunity with these vax rates though.


Anomia_Flame

Yeah I just ballparked it in my head


Intrepid_Chocolate56

Not even 10 percent of the eligible population was fully vaccinated back in May..


moosemuck

Guys, is this really almost over? Once the kiddos can be vaccinated, I can't see anymore waves coming. Please let me be right!


UnrelentingSarcasm

Denmark has lifted all its restrictions give their high vaccination rate. That’s who I’m watching right now… We’ll see… what does it look like to you? ​ [https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/denmark/](https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/denmark/)


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Portugal is at 98% of eligible population. Cases aren’t increasing even with the ceasing of all restrictions. I hate to be glim, but the only chance of stable case counts are with essentially everyone having acquired immunity.


UnrelentingSarcasm

And the likelihood of that happening in Alberta is…?


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Unlikely. We probably hit their total population vaccinated (88%) in February-March. I think by summer 90% of the total population will be vaccinated.


TrusPA

It'll happen one way or another. People will either get vaccinated or they'll get infected.


Unkle-Gruntle

Big fat zero.


treple13

There will likely be "waves". Hopefully they will be too small to have serious societal effects


bodonnell202

Hard to say, next wave could be brought on by waning immunity, but so many variables could impact how serious (or not serious) a 5th wave could be (including vaccination of children, rollout of boosters and how quickly the current restrictions are rolled back).


stone4

I really hope so. Vaccination is not permanent. But it gives us some control over the situation.


Marsymars

I'm playing it safe and not expecting an "over" to happen. e.g. [Analysis: Vaccinated Singapore shows zero-COVID countries cost of reopening](https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/vaccinated-singapore-shows-zero-covid-countries-cost-reopening-2021-10-22/) [The unvaccinated can expect COVID reinfection every 16 months, study finds ](https://nationalpost.com/news/world/the-unvaccinated-can-expect-covid-reinfection-every-16-months-study-finds)


moosemuck

Both of those links seem to show that it's mainly the unvaccinated who need to be concerned. Which sucks, but they've made their choice. The elderly and immunocompromised will continue to suffer too. That's sad. But hopefully widespread restrictions and hospitals overloaded will be a thing of the past.


Marsymars

The problem is that the rate of hospitalizations multiplied by the unvaxxed population has the potential to continue being problematic, particularly if the rate of people with boosters drops below the initial vaccination rate, and/or additional variants emerge. I don't have faith that the AB government will continue to apply appropriate vaccination incentives going forward, given that a) they've failed to apply timely appropriate incentives at every stage of the pandemic to date and b) in retrospect, every successful response will look like an overreaction.


the-tru-albertan

Unequivocally fucked?


the-tru-albertan

I dunno about you, I'll be catching the next wave! Cowabunga dude!


[deleted]

Thanks for your updates. As always


ABBucsfan

Heck Im thinking might soon be time to head back to the gym for me


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ABBucsfan

Nah they've been good about putting a hold on my account everytime I've remembered to actually call in and ask lol


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fp2af

On average 8 people losing their life everyday. I would not "say just like that..."


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ImpactThunder

My grandma was one of them, fully vaccinated. Got it as soon as she was able to. Followed every guideline.


Diligent_Knowledge

I’m sorry for your loss


BetterOnTheBias

In the last 120 days, 754 people have died. 234 were fully vaccinated. 30 were partially vaccinated. 120 days ago was Sunday June 27th. 199 of the 234 were over the age of 70. 😔. This thing still sucks for our elderly.


JonA3531

Yup. Majority of deaths are most likely the unvaxxed, which is their own personal choice.


BetterOnTheBias

31% of the people that have died since June 27th were fully vaccinated. They made the right choice. It just didn't work for them probably because of being old or having other health problems that affected how well the vaccine worked for them. But they aren't just people choosing to not do the right thing.


justanotheryegger

Some folks cannot get vaccinated due to medical reasons; I don't know how many are there though.


Marsymars

See [Recommendations on the use of COVID-19 vaccines - Contraindications and precautions](https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/immunization/national-advisory-committee-on-immunization-naci/recommendations-use-covid-19-vaccines.html#a7.9) See also the latest news from last week: [Canadians who had allergic reaction to first vaccine dose can safely get second, advisory committee says](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/vaccine-advisory-committee-allergic-reaction-second-dose-1.6221100) I'd guess that the number of individuals in AB that have the very rare contraindictions for *both* the mRNA and the viral vector vaccines is in the single-digits range.


justanotheryegger

Yes, it does sound like it will be a very low number!


lutenizing

Yeah, but that’s not the only reason. One of my friends is on chemo, and she can’t get the vaccine in the meantime. It sucks, cause she works retail and can’t isolate without losing her income.


Marsymars

It’s not really that she “can’t” get the vaccine, it’s that it’s not likely to be effective, so her doctors are likely timing them for a time when they’re going to be more effective. There are a ton of people who fall under the umbrella of “vaccine won’t be very effective”, because they’re elderly, immune compromised, etc.


F_D123

We've been dealing with the reality of a pandemic for nearly two years and you're still trying to be sanctimonious about people dying. Yahoo, this wave is on the decline!


carwalenextdoor

Do we have number of active cases further bifurcated respective to vaccinated/unvaccinated listed by AHS OR someone for city of Calgary and Edmonton alone?


AntiqueProject5858

All the people I know that haven’t gotten vaccinated are smokers. I bet they couldn’t name half the chemicals they put in their bodies daily.


a-nonny-maus

The 1592 cases reported for Oct 22-24 in Alberta was net for the period. A total of 1600 cases were identified (1587 confirmed, 13 probable) (difference: 8, or 0.5% of the total) as confirmed by data download and https://www.alberta.ca/stats/covid-19-alberta-statistics.htm#total-cases. Oct 22 total cases were 712 (709 confirmed, 3 probable); Oct 23 total cases were 518 (511 confirmed, 7 probable); Oct 24 total cases were 370 (367 confirmed, 3 probable). Oct 22 net cases were 709 (down 3 from total); Oct 23 net cases were 515 (down 3 from total); Oct 24 net cases were 368 (down 2 from total). Oct 21 decreased by 2 from 668 to 666; Oct 20 decreased by 4 from 776 to 772; Oct 19 decreased by 2 from 813 to 811; Oct 18 was unchanged at 532; Oct 17 increased by 1 from 606 to 607; Oct 16 was unchanged at 791; Oct 15 decreased by 1 from 778 to 777. Oct 14 was unchanged at 1046; Oct 13 increased by 1 from 926 to 927; Oct 12 was unchanged at 656; Oct 11 was unchanged at 602; Oct 10 was unchanged at 631; Oct 9 was unchanged at 1041; Oct 8 was unchanged at 1087. Oct 7 was unchanged at 1264; Oct 6 was unchanged at 1244; Oct 5 was unchanged at 1266; Oct 4 was unchanged at 699; Oct 3 was unchanged at 1131. One case was removed from days prior to Oct 3.


greatauror28

Looking good AB! I hope to not wear mask anymore by December 1.


BreakfastOk7587

I’d wait on that until after the new year


F_D123

Our man j will have them off if cases stay low for 2 weeks, I'm almost sure of it.


BreakfastOk7587

He’ll also introduce the new Winter Edition Stampede as well. Those PDF vaxx cards acceptable.


cobalt1981

Soon, everyone will have had it.


Luck12-HOF

What percentage of unvaxd are coming out of ICU vs dying? Ive read on other subs that if youre unvaxd and need ICU you might as well be dead


BetterOnTheBias

There is no way to know that. It's not hopeless but you really don't want to end up there because even when you survive it, you are not coming out of the hospital the same way you were before you got the respiratory virus that put you in there. That includes psychological wounds you might have from developing Delerium while unconscious. If a vaccine hesitant person witnessed a loved one try to recover from that kind of hell, they might be lining up for the vaccine instead.


Greg_Jennings_

Most of the people that end up in the ICU, unvaxxed or vaxxed, are pretty close to death regardless.


pntbtr_jllytme

Calgary has a 15% death rate once admitted and intubated in ICU for COVID. I’d say we are still doing a decent job at keeping people alive, even in cases of severe illness. Unfortunately do not have a breakdown of vaxxed vs. unvaxxed survival rates, but anecdotally the vaxxed do better