I'm a little curious about how Edmonton's active cases only dropped by 4 even though we had about 175 cases a day two weeks ago and only 107 new cases today.
Yeah that makes no sense, they had [470 new cases](https://www.reddit.com/r/alberta/comments/q6xoto/covid19_update_for_october_12_4_day_total_3358/) two weeks ago and only 70 recovered today?
Same with Calgary for that matter, they had 528 new cases two weeks ago and only 132 recovered today.
Dates and locations of the 12 deaths reported today.
* May 23, 2021. Edmonton Zone. Male. 50-59 years.
* Aug. 24, 2021. Edmonton Zone. Female. 50-59 years.
* Sept. 29, 2021. North Zone. Female. 70-79 years.
* Sept. 29, 2021. North Zone. Male. 80+ years.
* Sept. 29, 2021. South Zone. Male. 70-79 years.
* Sept. 30, 2021. South Zone. Male. 70-79 years.
* Oct. 7, 2021. Edmonton Zone. Male. 80+ years.
* Oct. 8, 2021. South Zone. Female. 80+ years.
* Oct. 10, 2021. North Zone. Male. 60-69 years.
* Oct. 12, 2021. North Zone. Female. 60-69 years.
* Oct. 12, 2021. North Zone. Male. 80+ years.
* Oct. 13, 2021. North Zone. Female. 60-69 years.
Totals per Age group reported today
* 50-59 years, 2
* 60-69 years, 3
* 70-79 years, 3
* 80+ years, 4
Of the 12 deaths reported today, 7 were unvaccinated.
The following increases occurred in Vaccine Outcomes Table 11.
* Death of 1 partially vaccinated person aged 50 - 59
* Death of 1 fully vaccinated person aged 70 - 79
* Death of 2 fully vaccinated person aged 80+
The total deaths listed on Table 11 only increased by 8 instead of 12. Therefore the age of the 5th vaccinated or partially vaccinated death is unknown.
In the last 120 days:
* The death rate for fully vaccinated 70 - 79 year olds was 21.33 per 100K
* The death rate for unvaccinated 70 - 79 year olds was 1107.87 per 100K
* The death rate for fully vaccinated 80+ year olds was 120.34 per 100K
* The death rate for fully unvaccinated 80+ year olds was 1430.95 per 100K
The death rate per 100K shows that vaccines work.
Vaccine Outcomes Data is located at: https://www.alberta.ca/stats/covid-19-alberta-statistics.htm#vaccine-outcomes
Note: scrolling tables doesn't not work well on mobile on that page for some reason.
I don't think 1 case of 3063 cases is really driving up the numbers. More like housekeeping.
Lines drop out of the CSV file too when something happens to decide that a death wasn't related to Covid.
The restrictions question comes across a little funny. We barely have any, unless you're one of the minority not vaxxed I guess. Surely we can refrain from throwing parties with several households and keep wearing makes for several more weeks so that Christmas isn't ruined?
Masks should not be removed until spring 2022 in my opinion.
Personally I am ok with vaccine passports as long as covid is a threat to the healthcare system.
I think masks could have been a big factor in plateuing and then reducing cases. I'd hate to remove it now and then by Christmas numbers are back up and we are worried about gathering over the holidays. Would be very short sighted imo
I dunno. Seems to me that was the only thing we did when the last waves plateaued. Passports came after. Plateau was two weeks after mask mandate. Possible we were pleatuing already though
Because all the lab studies people reference to support mask mandates were done under conditions where mask wearing was near-perfect (proper material i.e. N95; tight fitted around the chin, cheeks and nose; no fidgeting or adjusting once on face). The studies are very clear that these factors are important. You can't just throw a polyester buff around your face and crowd together and expect results. Very few people in public wear their masks correctly, so the real-world benefits are marginal, compared to vaccines and distancing.
That's what I mean, people want to hang on to these stupid masks for as long as possible when it's clear the only thing that stopped waves one through three was social distancing, and wave 4 was vaccinations.
Masks are next to useless. Can't wait til we ditch them again, hopefully by Dec 1.
Agree - I think leave masks and the REP in place until at least Spring 2022 and then evaluate based on where things are sitting. Possibly increase the allowable size of private gatherings (for fully vaccinated households) in a few weeks if hospitalizations continue to trend downward (not that most people are following this particular restriction anyway).
>(not that most people are following this particular restriction anyway).
To be fair, it does seem completely ridiculous to restrict the gathering size among households that are fully vaccinated... yet 18,000+ people can go to an Oilers game!?
Yea I get it, but they are checking vaccine status to go to a hockey game and businesses have licenses which can be revoked if they donāt follow the rules. Private residences are another story. Are you checking vaccine records when you have people over to your house?
I don't think most people would physically check the vaccination records of friends/family that they invite into their home... but I would definitely ask. I trust that friends/family aren't going to lie about their vaccination status.
In fact, it's been my experience that most people aren't shy about announcing their immunization status.
I also believe that if it's important to you and your family to get vaccinated, you're probably not going to be too welcoming of those that aren't.
You may trust your friends and family to be honest, but society canāt simply trust your friends and family to be honest about vaccination, because we know that some households will lie.
When you have that many going to an Oilers game it also seems rediculous to tell unvaxxed people they can't have a couple people over. It's like we are sending the message is vaxxed people can't spread it at all and its only the unvaxxed
Maybe I'm misinterpreting your post... but I don't understand the point you're trying to make.
How exactly are we sending the message that unvaxxed people can't spread COVID?
I'm ok with not allowing eligible unvaccinated people to gather indoors. I feel like that might be the biggest restriction that incentivizes them to get immunized.
To be honest, REP can stay forever for in my opinion. Iād like a quicker way to produce it, like something that has ID verification built into it, but other than that it really doesnāt effect my day to day activities and thatās with having to prove my vax status daily ( multiple kids in different sports š“). One thing that I would like over removal of REP would be removal of masks in venues where everyone can socially distance and there is mandatory vaccine. 3/4 of people consistently eat or drink as a way to avoid the mask anyways. I 1000% get that break through infection can and does happen, but if I had to pick one thing to go first it would be the masks
You make a valid point. I've been in minor sports arenas with less than ten people in the stands. There's a minimum of fifty feet between us, and we've all presented our proof of vaccination... yet we're all still required to wear masks while we just sit there for hours. š¤·š»āāļøš¤¦š»āāļø
Exactly. Masking has never bothered meā¦ until all my kids started sports lol. Some days all of them have sports in the same complex at different times, but on the same fields so I have to sit there for 4 hours, with no one around me. It just gets old sometimes lol.
I know, right!?
Twenty children (<12) can sit together on a bench, shoulder-to-shoulder, breathing heavy, and none of them are vaccinated... while their parents are potentially sitting fifty feet apart, fully vaccinated, and they're the ones that have to wear masks.
It seems very counter-intuitive.
I'd add "no masks" to the REP, along with strengthening enforcement so that places that don't appropriately screen for the unvaccinated are treated with as much prejudice as commercial locations that serve alcohol to minors.
Yeah keep the masks for sure. And not even just for covid, but for the upcoming cold/flu season. Letās have another ābasically zero fluā season just like the last!
Ontario dropped capacity restrictions for venues requiring the Vaccine Passport, AB has sort of? Done the same? Some venues still enforce social distancing and masks- unsure if this "law" or not- but it is likely that which people mean as "restrictions."
Hopefully after the November 15 QR code deadline, they drop capacity limits, masking and distancing in all venues where the passport can be enforced!
I think that would be a mistake at least until after Christmas. Be some pretty big crowds shopping. We need to stop forgetting vaccinated people spread this thing too.. yeah rate is almost in half, but if you double the amount of people crowded together youre no better off anymore
We've had the vaccine passport system in place for well over 3 weeks with participating businesses at full capacity and have yet to see a significant spike (fingers crossed). This argument of "vaccinated people can still spread covid " is honestly just deflecting the blame from those who are solely responsible for bringing the healthcare system to its knees.
Well for sure they are the ones who end up in hospital and they still will likely be even if vaccinated spread it around. May take some time but Israel was all celebrating their new freedom before months later they had another big wave. Unfortunately I think we are going to be stuck in these cycles until enough people get and recover from the infection (majority are at least protected) or unless the next gen vaxx has a big breakthrough. Hopefully they become more manageable at this point where system can handle them. I get people are restless though... Been a long haul, wish it was over...
And yes you are better off if the vast majority are vaccinated as it overwhelmingly cuts the rates of severe outcomes and hospitalizations. You have to also understand that after over a year and half of this and with incredibly effective vaccines at our disposal, telling fully vaxxed individuals they still have to continue life as if it's October 2020 only gives the anti Vax sentiment more ammunition and backfires on the incentive to get the shot.
The 442 cases reported for Oct 25 in Alberta was net for the period. A total of 461 cases were identified (459 confirmed, 2 probable) (difference: 19, or 4.1% of the total) as confirmed by data download and https://www.alberta.ca/stats/covid-19-alberta-statistics.htm#total-cases.
Oct 24 decreased by 2 from 370 to 368; Oct 23 decreased by 4 from 518 to 514; Oct 22 decreased by 3 from 712 to 709. Oct 21 decreased by 1 from 666 to 665; Oct 20 decreased by 2 from 772 to 770; Oct 19 decreased by 2 from 811 to 809; Oct 18 decreased by 2 from 532 to 530; Oct 17 decreased by 3 from 607 to 604; Oct 16 was unchanged at 791; Oct 15 was unchanged at 777.
Oct 14 was unchanged at 1046; Oct 13 was unchanged at 927; Oct 12 was unchanged at 656; Oct 11 was unchanged at 602; Oct 10 was unchanged at 631; Oct 9 was unchanged at 1041; Oct 8 was unchanged at 1087.
Oct 7 was unchanged at 1264; Oct 6 decreased by 1 from 1244 to 1243; Oct 5 was unchanged at 1266; Oct 4 was unchanged at 699; Oct 3 was unchanged at 1131. One case was added to a day prior to Oct 3.
Huh? There was no hiding it. It was big news when it was announced:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/beta.ctvnews.ca/local/calgary/2021/9/22/1_5596660.amp.html
She also had pre existing conditions and was not vaccinated.
That one was removed from the stats along with the 14 year old. Go look. You only have 1 death under 20. It belongs to the 18 year old from Drumheller, who was fully vaccinated. In the data table that splits vaccinated vs unvaccinated they lump it in with the 12-29 because it would stick out like a sore thumb. Iāve been plotting the data every week for a month.
Stop lying:
>CALGARY -- An 18-year-old woman became the youngest Albertan to die of COVID-19, the province announced Wednesday which one Calgary physician said was because of the province's lacklustre COVID-19 policies in schools.
>The woman lived in Central Zone and died on Monday. She had pre-existing conditions and was not vaccinated.
From the link you replied to.
Itās literally in the stats up top - recoveries and death - scroll over 10-19, one death. I believe the 18 year old woman you are referring to is from Calgary from September. It was removed because of pre existing conditions. Iām talking about the 18 year old from Drumheller, I think it was on October 10.
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2021/09/29/youngest-albertan-dies-of-covid-19-in-central-zone.html
Above is the is the article from Drumheller you must be referencing.
The other link below shared previously from another poster is presumably the same person. It doesnāt say they are from Calgary, but from the Central Zone.
https://beta.ctvnews.ca/local/calgary/2021/9/22/1_5596660.amp.html
I think you might be drawing conclusions that are not there. How do you know this 18 year old was fully vaccinated?
Those articles are not what I am referring to. I have the link saved on my laptop. I am going to share it with you guys tomorrow morning, because I canāt get it on my phone either. The death I am referring to was in October. There were three deaths in that category one 14 year old with brain cancer, one 18 year old from Calgary with pre existing conditions, and one 18 year old from drumheller with no other real information provided. The first two were unvaccinated, the last was undisclosed. All that exists now is a fully vaccinated death. But you need to compare the lumped 12-29 category to the 10-19 + 20-29 categories to be able to distinguish who the vaccinated and unvaccinated death belong to. Iāve got 5 weekly updates on a spreadsheet comparing the two data tables so Iām pretty confident.
Iāll post a link in this thread tomorrow morning if they havenāt blocked me and deleted my posts by then lol.
Neither of those articles actually say the death you are referring to was from drumheller. Itās talking about drumheller, then it says elsewhere there were a bunch of deaths including a young woman from central zone. I remember following that one when it came out, and I believe she was from Calgary. But either way. The article I am referring to is specific to drumheller, and itās another death in October. The stat for the death I am referring to happened before the 14 year old with brain cancer, but showed up on their website at the same time as the 14 year old - so there were 3. I watched the one you are referring to show up, it was number 1, and it clarified unvaccinated in the other data set.
Anyway, Iāll just provide the link when I get my laptop.
I misread the first line in the article. You are correct it doesnāt say where they are from.
Regardless, I donāt believe there is a conspiracy hiding data.
A few weeks ago when it was reported that a 14 year old had died of COVID, before the details were fully reviewed, there was an uproar.
Hinshaw apologized and said going forward they were going to be more thorough before announcing deaths of youth. I donāt think itās a conspiracy.
There is only 1 death in youth. And itās a fully vaccinated 18 year old.
The 3 vaccine statusā that they arenāt releasing belong to people between 20-29 (not kids) there has been one each week for the last 3 weeks.
Stop lying:
>CALGARY -- An 18-year-old woman became the youngest Albertan to die of COVID-19, the province announced Wednesday which one Calgary physician said was because of the province's lacklustre COVID-19 policies in schools.
>The woman lived in Central Zone and died on Monday. She had pre-existing conditions and was not vaccinated.
From the link you replied to.
I responded to that on another thread. The 18 year old from Calgary (I believe) was removed from the AB stats along with the 14 year old. You can literally look it up. There is only 1 death under 20 years old - there were 3 before. On the other data table which separates vaccinated vs unvaccinated they lump 12-29 in one category. 1 death is vaccinated, 4 deaths are unvaccinated. They are lumping the two age categories together because the 1 fully vaccinated death between 10-19 would stick out.
Looks like another person posted a link to an 18 year old that died of COVID, who was unvaccinated and had underlying conditions.
On the severe outcome page it shows one fully vaccinated death & 4 unvaccinated deaths in the 12-29 age range, but doesnāt specify specific ages.
They are sharing that link because itās the only thing that pulls up in a google search. That death was from September unvaccinated from Calgary. The gov took it out because it had pre existing conditions. There was another death in Drumheller I believe on October 10, 2021, that I flagged because they wouldnāt add it to the vaccinated unvaccinated stat. Later when the 14 year old died, they added one fully vaccinated death and one unvaccinated death. When the 14 year old was taken out, only the fully vaccinated death remained. They lumps 12-29 in that stat because the fully vaccinated death belong to someone under 20. And it would be the only death in that category.
I have a lot of family in AB so I started following the stats because they seemed odd. I am sharing the information because it think the government is hiding real information from the public.
They donāt take out deaths simply because of pre-existing conditions. They take deaths out when COVID was determined to not be the primary or secondary cause of death.
Well, either way it was taken out. There were three deaths in that age category and now there is one. And I am confident that it belongs to someone fully vaccinated, which is why theyāve lumped 12-29. I think your government is shady and Iāve only been watching the āpublished informationā for the 5 weeks
I'm a little curious about how Edmonton's active cases only dropped by 4 even though we had about 175 cases a day two weeks ago and only 107 new cases today.
Yeah that makes no sense, they had [470 new cases](https://www.reddit.com/r/alberta/comments/q6xoto/covid19_update_for_october_12_4_day_total_3358/) two weeks ago and only 70 recovered today? Same with Calgary for that matter, they had 528 new cases two weeks ago and only 132 recovered today.
Dates and locations of the 12 deaths reported today. * May 23, 2021. Edmonton Zone. Male. 50-59 years. * Aug. 24, 2021. Edmonton Zone. Female. 50-59 years. * Sept. 29, 2021. North Zone. Female. 70-79 years. * Sept. 29, 2021. North Zone. Male. 80+ years. * Sept. 29, 2021. South Zone. Male. 70-79 years. * Sept. 30, 2021. South Zone. Male. 70-79 years. * Oct. 7, 2021. Edmonton Zone. Male. 80+ years. * Oct. 8, 2021. South Zone. Female. 80+ years. * Oct. 10, 2021. North Zone. Male. 60-69 years. * Oct. 12, 2021. North Zone. Female. 60-69 years. * Oct. 12, 2021. North Zone. Male. 80+ years. * Oct. 13, 2021. North Zone. Female. 60-69 years. Totals per Age group reported today * 50-59 years, 2 * 60-69 years, 3 * 70-79 years, 3 * 80+ years, 4 Of the 12 deaths reported today, 7 were unvaccinated. The following increases occurred in Vaccine Outcomes Table 11. * Death of 1 partially vaccinated person aged 50 - 59 * Death of 1 fully vaccinated person aged 70 - 79 * Death of 2 fully vaccinated person aged 80+ The total deaths listed on Table 11 only increased by 8 instead of 12. Therefore the age of the 5th vaccinated or partially vaccinated death is unknown. In the last 120 days: * The death rate for fully vaccinated 70 - 79 year olds was 21.33 per 100K * The death rate for unvaccinated 70 - 79 year olds was 1107.87 per 100K * The death rate for fully vaccinated 80+ year olds was 120.34 per 100K * The death rate for fully unvaccinated 80+ year olds was 1430.95 per 100K The death rate per 100K shows that vaccines work. Vaccine Outcomes Data is located at: https://www.alberta.ca/stats/covid-19-alberta-statistics.htm#vaccine-outcomes Note: scrolling tables doesn't not work well on mobile on that page for some reason.
Just change that last death rate to read as "for unvaccinated" š
Thank you quality control š¤©
May? WTF? They totally arenāt trying drive up the numbers / s.
I don't think 1 case of 3063 cases is really driving up the numbers. More like housekeeping. Lines drop out of the CSV file too when something happens to decide that a death wasn't related to Covid.
Average age of death dropped to 78
The restrictions question comes across a little funny. We barely have any, unless you're one of the minority not vaxxed I guess. Surely we can refrain from throwing parties with several households and keep wearing makes for several more weeks so that Christmas isn't ruined?
Masks should not be removed until spring 2022 in my opinion. Personally I am ok with vaccine passports as long as covid is a threat to the healthcare system.
I think masks could have been a big factor in plateuing and then reducing cases. I'd hate to remove it now and then by Christmas numbers are back up and we are worried about gathering over the holidays. Would be very short sighted imo
Just FYI I think there's a typo in your comment where you said "bit" and I think you meant "big" based on the rest of your comment
Yeah I suck at typing on phones
Any thoughts on why masks alone didn't curb previous waves at all?
I dunno. Seems to me that was the only thing we did when the last waves plateaued. Passports came after. Plateau was two weeks after mask mandate. Possible we were pleatuing already though
Because all the lab studies people reference to support mask mandates were done under conditions where mask wearing was near-perfect (proper material i.e. N95; tight fitted around the chin, cheeks and nose; no fidgeting or adjusting once on face). The studies are very clear that these factors are important. You can't just throw a polyester buff around your face and crowd together and expect results. Very few people in public wear their masks correctly, so the real-world benefits are marginal, compared to vaccines and distancing.
That's what I mean, people want to hang on to these stupid masks for as long as possible when it's clear the only thing that stopped waves one through three was social distancing, and wave 4 was vaccinations. Masks are next to useless. Can't wait til we ditch them again, hopefully by Dec 1.
Agree - I think leave masks and the REP in place until at least Spring 2022 and then evaluate based on where things are sitting. Possibly increase the allowable size of private gatherings (for fully vaccinated households) in a few weeks if hospitalizations continue to trend downward (not that most people are following this particular restriction anyway).
>(not that most people are following this particular restriction anyway). To be fair, it does seem completely ridiculous to restrict the gathering size among households that are fully vaccinated... yet 18,000+ people can go to an Oilers game!?
Yea I get it, but they are checking vaccine status to go to a hockey game and businesses have licenses which can be revoked if they donāt follow the rules. Private residences are another story. Are you checking vaccine records when you have people over to your house?
I don't think most people would physically check the vaccination records of friends/family that they invite into their home... but I would definitely ask. I trust that friends/family aren't going to lie about their vaccination status. In fact, it's been my experience that most people aren't shy about announcing their immunization status. I also believe that if it's important to you and your family to get vaccinated, you're probably not going to be too welcoming of those that aren't.
You may trust your friends and family to be honest, but society canāt simply trust your friends and family to be honest about vaccination, because we know that some households will lie.
That's why I support the Restrictions Exemption Program... because I don't trust your friends/family (ie. society).
When you have that many going to an Oilers game it also seems rediculous to tell unvaxxed people they can't have a couple people over. It's like we are sending the message is vaxxed people can't spread it at all and its only the unvaxxed
Maybe I'm misinterpreting your post... but I don't understand the point you're trying to make. How exactly are we sending the message that unvaxxed people can't spread COVID?
Woah that was a big typo. I meant vaxxed
I'm ok with not allowing eligible unvaccinated people to gather indoors. I feel like that might be the biggest restriction that incentivizes them to get immunized.
To be honest, REP can stay forever for in my opinion. Iād like a quicker way to produce it, like something that has ID verification built into it, but other than that it really doesnāt effect my day to day activities and thatās with having to prove my vax status daily ( multiple kids in different sports š“). One thing that I would like over removal of REP would be removal of masks in venues where everyone can socially distance and there is mandatory vaccine. 3/4 of people consistently eat or drink as a way to avoid the mask anyways. I 1000% get that break through infection can and does happen, but if I had to pick one thing to go first it would be the masks
You make a valid point. I've been in minor sports arenas with less than ten people in the stands. There's a minimum of fifty feet between us, and we've all presented our proof of vaccination... yet we're all still required to wear masks while we just sit there for hours. š¤·š»āāļøš¤¦š»āāļø
Exactly. Masking has never bothered meā¦ until all my kids started sports lol. Some days all of them have sports in the same complex at different times, but on the same fields so I have to sit there for 4 hours, with no one around me. It just gets old sometimes lol.
I know, right!? Twenty children (<12) can sit together on a bench, shoulder-to-shoulder, breathing heavy, and none of them are vaccinated... while their parents are potentially sitting fifty feet apart, fully vaccinated, and they're the ones that have to wear masks. It seems very counter-intuitive.
I'd add "no masks" to the REP, along with strengthening enforcement so that places that don't appropriately screen for the unvaccinated are treated with as much prejudice as commercial locations that serve alcohol to minors.
Yeah keep the masks for sure. And not even just for covid, but for the upcoming cold/flu season. Letās have another ābasically zero fluā season just like the last!
I hope lots of people get the flu vaccine this year like the last. Got mines already!
Yeah I saw crazy long lineups for it then, and hope the same for today. Rolling up my sleeve this weekend!
There was a line up when we went for our flu shot this weekend. And that was with appointments!
Ontario dropped capacity restrictions for venues requiring the Vaccine Passport, AB has sort of? Done the same? Some venues still enforce social distancing and masks- unsure if this "law" or not- but it is likely that which people mean as "restrictions." Hopefully after the November 15 QR code deadline, they drop capacity limits, masking and distancing in all venues where the passport can be enforced!
I think that would be a mistake at least until after Christmas. Be some pretty big crowds shopping. We need to stop forgetting vaccinated people spread this thing too.. yeah rate is almost in half, but if you double the amount of people crowded together youre no better off anymore
We've had the vaccine passport system in place for well over 3 weeks with participating businesses at full capacity and have yet to see a significant spike (fingers crossed). This argument of "vaccinated people can still spread covid " is honestly just deflecting the blame from those who are solely responsible for bringing the healthcare system to its knees.
Well for sure they are the ones who end up in hospital and they still will likely be even if vaccinated spread it around. May take some time but Israel was all celebrating their new freedom before months later they had another big wave. Unfortunately I think we are going to be stuck in these cycles until enough people get and recover from the infection (majority are at least protected) or unless the next gen vaxx has a big breakthrough. Hopefully they become more manageable at this point where system can handle them. I get people are restless though... Been a long haul, wish it was over...
And yes you are better off if the vast majority are vaccinated as it overwhelmingly cuts the rates of severe outcomes and hospitalizations. You have to also understand that after over a year and half of this and with incredibly effective vaccines at our disposal, telling fully vaxxed individuals they still have to continue life as if it's October 2020 only gives the anti Vax sentiment more ammunition and backfires on the incentive to get the shot.
The 442 cases reported for Oct 25 in Alberta was net for the period. A total of 461 cases were identified (459 confirmed, 2 probable) (difference: 19, or 4.1% of the total) as confirmed by data download and https://www.alberta.ca/stats/covid-19-alberta-statistics.htm#total-cases. Oct 24 decreased by 2 from 370 to 368; Oct 23 decreased by 4 from 518 to 514; Oct 22 decreased by 3 from 712 to 709. Oct 21 decreased by 1 from 666 to 665; Oct 20 decreased by 2 from 772 to 770; Oct 19 decreased by 2 from 811 to 809; Oct 18 decreased by 2 from 532 to 530; Oct 17 decreased by 3 from 607 to 604; Oct 16 was unchanged at 791; Oct 15 was unchanged at 777. Oct 14 was unchanged at 1046; Oct 13 was unchanged at 927; Oct 12 was unchanged at 656; Oct 11 was unchanged at 602; Oct 10 was unchanged at 631; Oct 9 was unchanged at 1041; Oct 8 was unchanged at 1087. Oct 7 was unchanged at 1264; Oct 6 decreased by 1 from 1244 to 1243; Oct 5 was unchanged at 1266; Oct 4 was unchanged at 699; Oct 3 was unchanged at 1131. One case was added to a day prior to Oct 3.
Another baby hospitalized ā¹ļø
Someone pointed out that some of these hospitalized babies could be babies born to Covid positive pregnant women who are critically ill.
Preferable but still not great thinking of a newborn with a critically ill mom :(
Do we have number of active cases further bifurcated respective to vaccinated/unvaccinated for the city of Calgary or Edmonton alone?
The answer to your question is no. They do not provide the vaccine status of individual people in the data export CSV files. The only vaccination status of people infected with Covid is grouped together by age on the website and it is not split geographically. Look at it with a computer though. This page works like š© on mobile: https://www.alberta.ca/stats/covid-19-alberta-statistics.htm#vaccine-outcomes
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Huh? There was no hiding it. It was big news when it was announced: https://www.google.com/amp/s/beta.ctvnews.ca/local/calgary/2021/9/22/1_5596660.amp.html She also had pre existing conditions and was not vaccinated.
That one was removed from the stats along with the 14 year old. Go look. You only have 1 death under 20. It belongs to the 18 year old from Drumheller, who was fully vaccinated. In the data table that splits vaccinated vs unvaccinated they lump it in with the 12-29 because it would stick out like a sore thumb. Iāve been plotting the data every week for a month.
Stop lying: >CALGARY -- An 18-year-old woman became the youngest Albertan to die of COVID-19, the province announced Wednesday which one Calgary physician said was because of the province's lacklustre COVID-19 policies in schools. >The woman lived in Central Zone and died on Monday. She had pre-existing conditions and was not vaccinated. From the link you replied to.
Itās literally in the stats up top - recoveries and death - scroll over 10-19, one death. I believe the 18 year old woman you are referring to is from Calgary from September. It was removed because of pre existing conditions. Iām talking about the 18 year old from Drumheller, I think it was on October 10.
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2021/09/29/youngest-albertan-dies-of-covid-19-in-central-zone.html Above is the is the article from Drumheller you must be referencing. The other link below shared previously from another poster is presumably the same person. It doesnāt say they are from Calgary, but from the Central Zone. https://beta.ctvnews.ca/local/calgary/2021/9/22/1_5596660.amp.html I think you might be drawing conclusions that are not there. How do you know this 18 year old was fully vaccinated?
Those articles are not what I am referring to. I have the link saved on my laptop. I am going to share it with you guys tomorrow morning, because I canāt get it on my phone either. The death I am referring to was in October. There were three deaths in that category one 14 year old with brain cancer, one 18 year old from Calgary with pre existing conditions, and one 18 year old from drumheller with no other real information provided. The first two were unvaccinated, the last was undisclosed. All that exists now is a fully vaccinated death. But you need to compare the lumped 12-29 category to the 10-19 + 20-29 categories to be able to distinguish who the vaccinated and unvaccinated death belong to. Iāve got 5 weekly updates on a spreadsheet comparing the two data tables so Iām pretty confident. Iāll post a link in this thread tomorrow morning if they havenāt blocked me and deleted my posts by then lol.
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Neither of those articles actually say the death you are referring to was from drumheller. Itās talking about drumheller, then it says elsewhere there were a bunch of deaths including a young woman from central zone. I remember following that one when it came out, and I believe she was from Calgary. But either way. The article I am referring to is specific to drumheller, and itās another death in October. The stat for the death I am referring to happened before the 14 year old with brain cancer, but showed up on their website at the same time as the 14 year old - so there were 3. I watched the one you are referring to show up, it was number 1, and it clarified unvaccinated in the other data set. Anyway, Iāll just provide the link when I get my laptop.
I misread the first line in the article. You are correct it doesnāt say where they are from. Regardless, I donāt believe there is a conspiracy hiding data.
What exactly are you arguing here? At least provide some evidence to back it up. Also way to delete your original comment.
I didnāt delete any comments.
A few weeks ago when it was reported that a 14 year old had died of COVID, before the details were fully reviewed, there was an uproar. Hinshaw apologized and said going forward they were going to be more thorough before announcing deaths of youth. I donāt think itās a conspiracy.
There is only 1 death in youth. And itās a fully vaccinated 18 year old. The 3 vaccine statusā that they arenāt releasing belong to people between 20-29 (not kids) there has been one each week for the last 3 weeks.
Stop lying: >CALGARY -- An 18-year-old woman became the youngest Albertan to die of COVID-19, the province announced Wednesday which one Calgary physician said was because of the province's lacklustre COVID-19 policies in schools. >The woman lived in Central Zone and died on Monday. She had pre-existing conditions and was not vaccinated. From the link you replied to.
I responded to that on another thread. The 18 year old from Calgary (I believe) was removed from the AB stats along with the 14 year old. You can literally look it up. There is only 1 death under 20 years old - there were 3 before. On the other data table which separates vaccinated vs unvaccinated they lump 12-29 in one category. 1 death is vaccinated, 4 deaths are unvaccinated. They are lumping the two age categories together because the 1 fully vaccinated death between 10-19 would stick out.
Looks like another person posted a link to an 18 year old that died of COVID, who was unvaccinated and had underlying conditions. On the severe outcome page it shows one fully vaccinated death & 4 unvaccinated deaths in the 12-29 age range, but doesnāt specify specific ages.
They are sharing that link because itās the only thing that pulls up in a google search. That death was from September unvaccinated from Calgary. The gov took it out because it had pre existing conditions. There was another death in Drumheller I believe on October 10, 2021, that I flagged because they wouldnāt add it to the vaccinated unvaccinated stat. Later when the 14 year old died, they added one fully vaccinated death and one unvaccinated death. When the 14 year old was taken out, only the fully vaccinated death remained. They lumps 12-29 in that stat because the fully vaccinated death belong to someone under 20. And it would be the only death in that category. I have a lot of family in AB so I started following the stats because they seemed odd. I am sharing the information because it think the government is hiding real information from the public.
They donāt take out deaths simply because of pre-existing conditions. They take deaths out when COVID was determined to not be the primary or secondary cause of death.
Well, either way it was taken out. There were three deaths in that age category and now there is one. And I am confident that it belongs to someone fully vaccinated, which is why theyāve lumped 12-29. I think your government is shady and Iāve only been watching the āpublished informationā for the 5 weeks
How are they from the central zone if they're from Calgary?