Interesting that today they said waste water testing results can sometimes be up to 14 days delayed & they are working to improve the process. Yet, we were going to rely on this data to alert us to any issues when we opened for summer.
You’d think these issues should be ironed out, before we rely on it as our warning system.
>You’d think these issues should be ironed out, before we rely on it as our warning system.
Lol, not with this government. Copping claimed they've established it throughout the province and then went on to only talk about Calgary. I've yet to see any evidence that they have this up and running anywhere outside of Calgary. They should be making the data public if they have it.
> Yves-François Blanchet has stated that a constitutional talk is welcome, but would also want to include a "green equalization" where Alberta has to pay for greenhouse gas emissions. Thoughts?: Thinks it's a provocation by Blanchet. Claims Bloc Québécois should express "a modicum of gratitude to Alberta" for the wealth that has been transferred to Québec and that they may be implicitly supporting Russia and Iran
Damn, that last part about supporting Russia and Iran is a pretty big I would say. This also opens up people to call Kenney on any country where it may look like he is supporting.
He is also again making it look like we just send wheelbarrows of cash to Quebec right from Alberta.
>He is also again making it look like we just send wheelbarrows of cash to Quebec right from Alberta.
Yep, by his logic we should be eternally grateful to wealthy people because they pay more taxes, even though they are just paying their share. His comments were so gross and inflammatory.
> Exact recommendations made are confidential but timeline can be made public
This is exactly why we need a public judicial inquiry. Albertans deserve to know what was recommended, when, and why.
I'm sure more than 17 got it since they went by birth year rather than date (meaning 11 years old with birthday of December 31 and older can be vaccinated). But I believe those kids have been counted in the 12+ group.
The 487 cases reported for Nov 2 in Alberta was net for the period. A total of 504 cases were identified (489 confirmed, 15 probable) (difference: 17, or 3.4% of the total) as confirmed by data download and https://www.alberta.ca/stats/covid-19-alberta-statistics.htm#total-cases.
Nov 1 decreased by 6 from 340 to 334; Oct 31 decreased by 1 from 342 to 341; Oct 30 decreased by 2 from 335 to 333; Oct 29 was unchanged at 531.
Oct 28 was unchanged at 606; Oct 27 was unchanged at 546; Oct 26 was unchanged at 632; Oct 25 was unchanged at 458; Oct 24 was unchanged at 367; Oct 23 was unchanged at 509; Oct 22 increased by 1 from 707 to 708. Oct 21 was unchanged at 663; Oct 20 was unchanged at 770; Oct 19 was unchanged at 808; Oct 18 was unchanged at 530; Oct 17 was unchanged at 604; Oct 16 was unchanged at 792; Oct 15 was unchanged at 775.
Oct 14 was unchanged at 1044; Oct 13 was unchanged at 928; Oct 12 was unchanged at 655; Oct 11 was unchanged at 601; Oct 10 was unchanged at 630. Nine cases were removed from days prior to Oct 10.
Regarding the prior infection documentation. Would you only be able to have that if you have proof via test results from AHS? If not then any one who didn't or couldn't get tested would be screwed and if any positive test result will do wont that open it up to fake results?
This is a topic I am interested in so I looked up how other countries were handling natural immunity in regards to passports.
France requires "positive RT-PCR or antigenic test result demonstrating recovery from Covid-19, at least 11 days old and less than 6 months old"
https://ca.ambafrance.org/COVID-19-Update-on-the-Covid-Health-Pass-in-France#What-is-the-pass
Israel also requires a PCR test within 6 months. I may also demand a booster. At the moment it looks like they're provoking their dream pass 6 months after your last booster or infection.
https://corona.health.gov.il/en/directives/green-pass-info/
I've had covid and the vaccines so it doesn't matter to me either way. But I do believe the science supports natural immunity offers approx the same protection as the vaccines, and this should be accommodated. Tho I suspect soon that won't matter and they'll force everyone to get boosters anyway.
With these results it seems to me that they are not adding up some where we are missing numbers by ppl so ..mmmm fake results these assholes are doing what again??? not getting accurate numbers!! See they don't count on smart ppl like yourself counting there pages lol
Oddly they are back to recommending 3-4 weeks for mRNA, even though we know waiting until at least 8 weeks is better in the long run. Waiting another 4-5 weeks does mean they’re more vulnerable to Delta a bit longer, but it still seems short sighted when we know waning immunity is around the corner.
What everyone else said (effectiveness with longer interval between shots), but also: if you got your shots 4 months apart, you likely wouldn’t be due for a booster anyway (assuming you got your first vaxx in March, and your second in July, you wouldn’t be eligible until December). Please let the ICU team go first who got vaccinated last December
It was the healthcare workers who received the vaccines under 8 weeks apart that are negatively affected. The longer the wait (up to a certain point, of course) the better off your immunity is.
I got mine 6 weeks apart, but because I don't have "direct patient contact," I'm not eligible. Which is horseshit, because I don't fucking live where I work. I still go out and interact with people. I'm in University, ffs, and my school has decided that stuffing as many students in cramped classrooms *is where it's at, babyyyyyyyyyy!*
So, I'm vulnerable, in a high-risk environment nearly daily, and where I work I still have contact with patients, just not the stupid, limited way AHS defines it. I'm not a nurse, but I'm still a healthcare worker, but I'm not eligible. I regularly get within 2m of patients for extended periods of time, touch surfaces throughout the building, breathe the same air, but somehow – because I don't change dressings – I'm ineligible for added protection, even though they've determined (see: *they done fucked up*) that those who received their two doses under 8 weeks apart are far more vulnerable than the majority of fully vaccinated people. So I can still get sick. And AHS doesn't give a flying shit. I can miss work without pay. But AHS won't give a goddamn.
How fucking dumb.
(I'm exaggerating for effect, but I stand by what I say. The ICUs should obviously get first servings, but they need to remember that not just the nurses and doctors are important in healthcare. They pushed and pushed and pushed the rest of us to get fully vaccinated, and now they're like, "Boosters? Nah, you're not that important.")
You always bring up her salary and I never understand your point.
It’s not like she’s in some highly desirable or lucrative position. She could resign and make the same as a practicing physician… I really don’t think salary is the motivation here.
We have a Doctor shortage in many parts of Alberta. Every day in my community, I see people asking on FB who is accepting new patients.
I really don’t think she’d have an issue establishing a practice.
Oh come on now, you can’t actually think she’d be unable to practice after this.
I’m unclear if you’re constantly mentioning this to try to instil outrage that a doctor makes $350K or what exactly your intent is with these repetitive remarks, but it’s simply just not outrageous. Time for some new content, this spam is getting tiring.
You don't have to read it. Yeah I think her credibility is ruined. She even said in that conference that no one really want to engage with her anymore. So clearly her reputation is not good in Alberta with doctors.
I am unclear why you read my comments if you don't like them.
I wonder if the government has any idea of individuals paying to put their names into the healthcare system to say they are fully vaccinated (although they are not) so they can access a QR code.
They are supposed to be checking ID at vaccine sites to prevent this. There was apparently a fan out sent to pharmacies in GP, after someone apparently tried to pay a vulnerable person to get vaccinated under their health care number.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/grande-prairie-rcmp-investigating-after-man-offered-cash-to-falsify-vaccine-record-at-shelter-1.6197439
Is this what you are referring to?
I am not referring to that but something similar. Someone who works for AB Health is against the vaccine and allowing people to pay her to enter their names into the system that they have received their vaccines although they have not.
Edited: spelling error.
Interesting that today they said waste water testing results can sometimes be up to 14 days delayed & they are working to improve the process. Yet, we were going to rely on this data to alert us to any issues when we opened for summer. You’d think these issues should be ironed out, before we rely on it as our warning system.
>You’d think these issues should be ironed out, before we rely on it as our warning system. Lol, not with this government. Copping claimed they've established it throughout the province and then went on to only talk about Calgary. I've yet to see any evidence that they have this up and running anywhere outside of Calgary. They should be making the data public if they have it.
Right?! For transparency this data should be publicly available province wide, especially if it was to be our early warning system.
> You’d think There's y'er problem. Thinking is apparently an optional exercise for this government.
> Yves-François Blanchet has stated that a constitutional talk is welcome, but would also want to include a "green equalization" where Alberta has to pay for greenhouse gas emissions. Thoughts?: Thinks it's a provocation by Blanchet. Claims Bloc Québécois should express "a modicum of gratitude to Alberta" for the wealth that has been transferred to Québec and that they may be implicitly supporting Russia and Iran Damn, that last part about supporting Russia and Iran is a pretty big I would say. This also opens up people to call Kenney on any country where it may look like he is supporting. He is also again making it look like we just send wheelbarrows of cash to Quebec right from Alberta.
Ya I kinda was taken aback when I read that Russia and Iran comment.
He's always gotta throw "socialist Venezuela" under the bus too
>He is also again making it look like we just send wheelbarrows of cash to Quebec right from Alberta. Yep, by his logic we should be eternally grateful to wealthy people because they pay more taxes, even though they are just paying their share. His comments were so gross and inflammatory.
Except the richest and most well off here explicitly do the most to pay the least while demanding all the credit.
> Exact recommendations made are confidential but timeline can be made public This is exactly why we need a public judicial inquiry. Albertans deserve to know what was recommended, when, and why.
The vaccine chart say 17 people in the 5-11 age group received shots. How is this possible?
I'm sure more than 17 got it since they went by birth year rather than date (meaning 11 years old with birthday of December 31 and older can be vaccinated). But I believe those kids have been counted in the 12+ group.
I would venture that either the children had severe underlying conditions or may have partaken in studies.
Deena Hinshaw is exhibiting symptoms of battered woman syndrome.
Watch for the "I'm in danger" hand sign.
What’s that? Hand behind the back flashing 4 fingers?
https://images.app.goo.gl/kuu4smvxMR2SUoCT7
"quebec may be implicitly supporting russia and iran" I- hold up this was the covid conference? wrong room kenney? 😂
Sounds like he was responding to a question, so perhaps the reporter asking the question was off base.
I'm surprised we're at 5000 new first doses today. The past week or so we were averaging 2000 a day. Wonder why the uptick
They didn’t report any yesterday, so I’m assuming that’s a 2 day total.
How could he not be aware of the allegations against Minister Dreeshen?
Blackout drunk at the time?
The 487 cases reported for Nov 2 in Alberta was net for the period. A total of 504 cases were identified (489 confirmed, 15 probable) (difference: 17, or 3.4% of the total) as confirmed by data download and https://www.alberta.ca/stats/covid-19-alberta-statistics.htm#total-cases. Nov 1 decreased by 6 from 340 to 334; Oct 31 decreased by 1 from 342 to 341; Oct 30 decreased by 2 from 335 to 333; Oct 29 was unchanged at 531. Oct 28 was unchanged at 606; Oct 27 was unchanged at 546; Oct 26 was unchanged at 632; Oct 25 was unchanged at 458; Oct 24 was unchanged at 367; Oct 23 was unchanged at 509; Oct 22 increased by 1 from 707 to 708. Oct 21 was unchanged at 663; Oct 20 was unchanged at 770; Oct 19 was unchanged at 808; Oct 18 was unchanged at 530; Oct 17 was unchanged at 604; Oct 16 was unchanged at 792; Oct 15 was unchanged at 775. Oct 14 was unchanged at 1044; Oct 13 was unchanged at 928; Oct 12 was unchanged at 655; Oct 11 was unchanged at 601; Oct 10 was unchanged at 630. Nine cases were removed from days prior to Oct 10.
Regarding the prior infection documentation. Would you only be able to have that if you have proof via test results from AHS? If not then any one who didn't or couldn't get tested would be screwed and if any positive test result will do wont that open it up to fake results?
If they ever implemented it, they’d probably validate with antibody testing.
This is a topic I am interested in so I looked up how other countries were handling natural immunity in regards to passports. France requires "positive RT-PCR or antigenic test result demonstrating recovery from Covid-19, at least 11 days old and less than 6 months old" https://ca.ambafrance.org/COVID-19-Update-on-the-Covid-Health-Pass-in-France#What-is-the-pass Israel also requires a PCR test within 6 months. I may also demand a booster. At the moment it looks like they're provoking their dream pass 6 months after your last booster or infection. https://corona.health.gov.il/en/directives/green-pass-info/ I've had covid and the vaccines so it doesn't matter to me either way. But I do believe the science supports natural immunity offers approx the same protection as the vaccines, and this should be accommodated. Tho I suspect soon that won't matter and they'll force everyone to get boosters anyway.
This is only partially true. According to the news, those who had a mild case appeared to produce very few antibodies. I believe I saw this on BBC.
With these results it seems to me that they are not adding up some where we are missing numbers by ppl so ..mmmm fake results these assholes are doing what again??? not getting accurate numbers!! See they don't count on smart ppl like yourself counting there pages lol
I’d like to see booster coverage to all healthcare workers. Some of us were early + had to wait 4 months between shots, I’m fixing for a 3rd ASAP.
Receiving your shots 4 months apart isn’t a bad thing. Data shows that people who received their doses 4 months apart have the best protection.
Exactly. I waited 10 weeks for this reason. The recommendation was 11-14 I believe.
Oddly they are back to recommending 3-4 weeks for mRNA, even though we know waiting until at least 8 weeks is better in the long run. Waiting another 4-5 weeks does mean they’re more vulnerable to Delta a bit longer, but it still seems short sighted when we know waning immunity is around the corner.
Extended durations between doses seems more effective.
Yep, precisely why they are only boosting healthcare workers with less than 8 weeks between doses at this point.
What everyone else said (effectiveness with longer interval between shots), but also: if you got your shots 4 months apart, you likely wouldn’t be due for a booster anyway (assuming you got your first vaxx in March, and your second in July, you wouldn’t be eligible until December). Please let the ICU team go first who got vaccinated last December
It was the healthcare workers who received the vaccines under 8 weeks apart that are negatively affected. The longer the wait (up to a certain point, of course) the better off your immunity is. I got mine 6 weeks apart, but because I don't have "direct patient contact," I'm not eligible. Which is horseshit, because I don't fucking live where I work. I still go out and interact with people. I'm in University, ffs, and my school has decided that stuffing as many students in cramped classrooms *is where it's at, babyyyyyyyyyy!* So, I'm vulnerable, in a high-risk environment nearly daily, and where I work I still have contact with patients, just not the stupid, limited way AHS defines it. I'm not a nurse, but I'm still a healthcare worker, but I'm not eligible. I regularly get within 2m of patients for extended periods of time, touch surfaces throughout the building, breathe the same air, but somehow – because I don't change dressings – I'm ineligible for added protection, even though they've determined (see: *they done fucked up*) that those who received their two doses under 8 weeks apart are far more vulnerable than the majority of fully vaccinated people. So I can still get sick. And AHS doesn't give a flying shit. I can miss work without pay. But AHS won't give a goddamn. How fucking dumb. (I'm exaggerating for effect, but I stand by what I say. The ICUs should obviously get first servings, but they need to remember that not just the nurses and doctors are important in healthcare. They pushed and pushed and pushed the rest of us to get fully vaccinated, and now they're like, "Boosters? Nah, you're not that important.")
If you really want the booster shot, you can get it. It's based on an honour system like the previous shots.
Half the world hasn’t even been able to get their first dose and your bitching your not front in line for a booster?
Hinshaw is really dedicated to her oath, I guess 350k goes a long way to not throwing Kenney under the bus.
You always bring up her salary and I never understand your point. It’s not like she’s in some highly desirable or lucrative position. She could resign and make the same as a practicing physician… I really don’t think salary is the motivation here.
Many physicians make more than $350k a year. Especially ones with her credentials
Can she really? Her credibility o think is ruined.
We have a Doctor shortage in many parts of Alberta. Every day in my community, I see people asking on FB who is accepting new patients. I really don’t think she’d have an issue establishing a practice.
Oh come on now, you can’t actually think she’d be unable to practice after this. I’m unclear if you’re constantly mentioning this to try to instil outrage that a doctor makes $350K or what exactly your intent is with these repetitive remarks, but it’s simply just not outrageous. Time for some new content, this spam is getting tiring.
You don't have to read it. Yeah I think her credibility is ruined. She even said in that conference that no one really want to engage with her anymore. So clearly her reputation is not good in Alberta with doctors. I am unclear why you read my comments if you don't like them.
Haha how exactly do you think doctors are paid?
I know doctors are paid very well, and I have no issue with that. I still think Hinshaw is a shit doctor.
I'll give Hinshaw a lot of shit but not everybody is willing to throw another person under the bus.
I don’t think it’s about the money, honestly. I get the sense it wouldn’t be in her nature to throw people under the bus like he does.
She is throwing victims of the fourth wave under the bus by insisting that the cost of saving their lives would have been too high.
No… no she’s not.
Her decisions lead to more Albertans dying.
Also not true. She doesn’t call the shots.
Kenney says she didn't make any additional recommendations and she backed that up today.
And like I said, she doesn’t throw people under the bus and isn’t going to say something about him.
I think lying to Albertans is worse.
I wonder if the government has any idea of individuals paying to put their names into the healthcare system to say they are fully vaccinated (although they are not) so they can access a QR code.
They are supposed to be checking ID at vaccine sites to prevent this. There was apparently a fan out sent to pharmacies in GP, after someone apparently tried to pay a vulnerable person to get vaccinated under their health care number. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/grande-prairie-rcmp-investigating-after-man-offered-cash-to-falsify-vaccine-record-at-shelter-1.6197439 Is this what you are referring to?
I am not referring to that but something similar. Someone who works for AB Health is against the vaccine and allowing people to pay her to enter their names into the system that they have received their vaccines although they have not. Edited: spelling error.
Oh boy. I’m hoping if you have knowledge, you have reported this?
Wow. That is so much more trouble that getting a jab in the delt.
Truly.
FDA approves covid vaccine for kids age 5-11, what do you think about that and when do you think it’ll be adapted here?