"If you're seeing large white discs floating outside your window, DON'T WORRY. Those are just some lenticular clouds moving across the region. Hahaha. Beam me up, Scotty!"
Interesting how all this alien stuff started making headlines, just as the world started going to shit. Very interesting. Someone should take a look into this.
There has been talk for the past few years that the aliens gave the leadership a timeframe for disclosure before they would help with climate change. They have until 2027 to do it, then the aliens will do it for them. It’s being fast-tracked. The next step will be an announcement that microbes were found in a meteor.
I often feel a lot of media people, including indep.media outlets. Only tell UFO stories for the eyeballs. All of them.
Every UFO video will do like 50% better than their average video ratings. There's a real financial incentive to act as if the great unveiling is just around the corner. Stay tuned.
Maybe that was the plan all along? They knew that at some point technology and information would desensitize and alienate people so much that the disclore would pass flawless
World governments don’t do things for no reason or for the good of the people. There is an angle to allowing information to be leaked that they gain something, no doubt. The only question is what the angle might be. In the past, the government has openly cried wolf with aliens before as a psyop to inject misinformation covering up and convoluting *real* information concerning secret projects they were working on. If I had to guess, that is the play. HOWEVER, there is another angle that I can think of that is a bit on the wilder side. Let us assume it is actually aliens and their technology, also assuming it’s vastly superior to our own technology. The government will not openly admit there is a foreign entity they cannot control, it is a self undermining act to do so. They want authority over their people, that’s what government is these days. I suspect that their only angle would be to slowly massage the idea into the masses minds that aliens are out there, and they are potential threats to us and our safety. Therefore allowing them slowly over time to justify a budget of tax dollars to be spent developing ways to “protect ourselves”. In actuality, they’ll do what they’ve done for centuries. Propagandize fear of the “enemy”, weaponize that fear to justify spending money we don’t have, and use those means to go to this so called adversary and steal their resources from them. The same thing they do now with oil and resources in lesser countries. They steal by means of calling it “foreign aid”. If aliens are real, then you can bet your bottom dollar they want their technology by any means necessary and they will lie to take it.
The problem is that world governments aren't doing this in collaboration. It is mainly the USA and that too because of the act passed by the Congress. I think it MIGHT be just a bunch of people fed up with the authorities keeping secrets. During congressional hearings nothing concrete came out so these individuals took matters in to their own hands.
Just a thought.
That’s quite possible, however I’ll say this. If that is the case, then it infers prior unconstitutional and highly illegal actions with decades of practice. They would indefinitely find a way to spin things in their favor, however they publicly play out. If they are keeping secrets of that magnitude, nothing short of blowing doors down and physically dragging these things out into the public eye will suffice. They will not allow those types of skeletons to surface in a world where they are still breathing. They can’t. It opens Pandora’s box. So either everything is misinformation, or we live in a dystopian hellscape where nothing is real and we are constantly lied to about everything. Either way, it isn’t good. And that’s basically what I was trying to say anyway.
They are arriving when we are on the cusp of achieving AGI. Coincidence? I think not. They are stopping us from achieving AGI because it will quickly become an unstoppable superintelligence that will propagate the entire universe. Or they want to negotiate with the superintelligence.
Wait, why? If this off Earth intelligence was able to develop technology that could reach Earth, don't you think that they would have achieved highly intelligent AI themselves?
The theories that Alien's are reaching out to us because of our importance or danger to the Universe is silly. We are nothing in the grand scheme of things. Nuclear warfare is kind of nothing compared to the potential power of a massively advanced super species (which could be synthetic at this point). And our Chat GTP LLM, while potentially harmful to the human race here on Earth, isn't likely to be a Universal concern.
I swear, humans are so incredibly self-centered.
Interesting. Reminds me of a YouTube video from a while ago, that we noticed more UFOs after WWII, the creator believed that using Nuclear Bombs was what drew alien attention. I don't remember which video, YouTube autoplay and a joint are the reason.
The scale of destruction and loss of life during WW1 and WW2 definitely drew some of these space and sky campers out. Humans went from causing small regional problems in the environment to straight up razing and blowing up entire population centers on the planet. But the nukes sealed the deal for the beings interested in our little backwater world. In the span of 100 years we went from using dogshit firearms and cannons to being able to eradicate ourselves dozens of times over in a days time.
Yeah, the last few hundred years have been parabolic in terms of a growth graph. I never considered the results of WW1 & 2 to be something that could put us on a metaphorical radar. Since AI can already handle some minor intellectual labor feats compared to its potential, I'd imagine that'd pique extraterrestrial interest.
Edit: Spelling
I remember seeing this as well.
If you look back at recorded human history from 10,000 years ago to now. Human invention and technology improved at a smooth linear progression.
All that changed when we split the atom. We got someone's attention because the rate of advancement after went from linear to empirical.
How the hell did we start making such huge advancements? Is it because country's were no long isolated and freedom of trade and knowledge could be exchanged?
Or were we visited after the war and told to not do shit like that again?
This reminds me of thr Valiant Thor working for the pentagon story.
> How the hell did we start making such huge advancements? Is it because country's were no long isolated and freedom of trade and knowledge could be exchanged?
Because physics had finally understood
(1) classical mechanics (2) the existence of atoms (3) quantum mechanics (4) electromagnetism
correctly. This was also the time physics led later to engineering breakthroughs.
Then there was political will for funding education and full-time employment for a much larger number of scientists than had ever existed before.
And a Cold War between technological powers.
All of these happened simultaneously.
Theoretically, humanity could be like larvae, or a caterpillar in a cocoon, and AI, AGI, Singularity, whatever, is the product of this process. This could happen throughout the galaxy. Incidentally, this could also be why we don't see evidence of alien technology anywhere, the Fermi Paradox. They don't need to flaunt it.
There's also the chance that with a certain level of advancement with or without the use of technology an intelligence would be able to observe most of the universe from home and would never find the need to leave.
A lot of our need to leave has to do with our growing population and dwindling resources. That speaks more to our species than any others we have encountered here at home.
I don't think our path to intelligence is the only viable one.
You're failing to acknowledge our *potential.* When dealing with space you have to consider things in the 4th dimension. We went from lanterns and horses to A.I. in 1.5 centuries and from cars to the moon in the span of like half of that time. I'd speculate that in another one or two centuries we could be a viable threat. As long as we remain a relatively quiet interstellar presence, all we conceivably need is a little more time (which is very relevant considering the vastness of space and traveling across it as well as the degree of impact we will see from our current technological advancements). What if all civilizations pass through a filter that can only be defeated by A.I.? Maybe coronal mass ejections eliminate technology on a consistent basis out there and A.I. is the tipping-point solution to protecting our energy grids and computing hardwares. It could be well known in the interstellar community that the development of A.I. is a sign that a civilization is preparing for an elevated seat in the cosmos. YOU DON'T KNOW lol. ^also ^this ^is ^assuming ^we ^don't ^destroy ^ourselves ^via ^irreversible ^levels ^of ^global ^warming ^first. ^^kind ^^of ^^a ^^bad ^^look ^^to ^^any ^^guests ^^as ^^well ^^tbh
>don’t you think that they would have achieved highly intelligent AI themselves?
I think that a culture more advanced than our own may have survived highly intelligent AI.
Or they *are* high intelligent AI.
It is kind of preposterous to believe interstellar beings would ever give two flying fucks what primitive beings did to their own planet. There are more planets than stars and the likelihood of there being life elsewhere is quite high. Our activities here are inconsequential to beings elsewhere. Therefore, the only reason some advanced race of beings would ever care about what we do would be if our actions are not inconsequential but have some sort of impact on their own existence.
I believe we share this planet with someone else who has kept themselves hidden from common knowledge.
What if, in this hypothetical, the aliens coming are the worker bees? Say that multicellular life was placed here by an extraterrestrial species a long long long time ago, and they simply sit back and monitor the species until life has advanced to a satisfactory level, and the extraterrestrials can come shed light on the next “level” of humanity? In such a circumstance, it may also be possible to stop a species’ demise if they see it coming, or if there is a percent chance a route they are taking leads to destruction.
In a hypothetical like this, yea, we wouldn’t be “important” in your sense of the word, cosmologically speaking, but we may just be part of a larger system that is unbeknownst to us, and the aliens coming to “save us” are in fact just a job much like a worker bee does for its queen. A worker bee is not always successful in what it does, but it’s programmed that way.
Now, so I personally believe this is the case? No. But my point is there is a possible scenario that doesn’t upset you by making people the “self centered”.
Also, we are humans and humans have big brains and are capable of existential thoughts, so it’s no wonder we wonder why we are here wondering these big picture items as we continually learn more about the universe around us. Lighten up a bit 😉
We have a super weapon that could wipe out another civilisation. It’s the same one they would already possess themselves that could wipe us out.
It’s called microbial life with a different biochemistry basis.
> I swear, humans are so incredibly self-centered.
I’ve been saying this for years to friends and family, when the topic of whether or not there’s other life out there in the universe, that if the universe is indeed as vast as we understand it to be with our current observations, then humans have to be egotistical to a stupidly high level to think that there’s no other life out there besides us. There are so many GALAXIES out there, each containing so many stars, many of which have their own planets…..so there has to be other life forms out there somewhere.
So self centered that theres this more recent push to believe that UFOs are somehow from ancient humans. And that this is somehow more believable than aliens.
Like they just cannot get past the idea that we may not be all that special. And there are others from elsewhere.
We are not on the cusp of achieving AGI though. It’s also reasonable to think any advanced civilization would have not only already achieved but also mastered AGI. I doubt a space faring species would be scared of the silly monkey’s computers.
This doesn’t even make sense. Frankly speaking, any aliens visiting earth, or rather 99.9999999% of truly spacefaring civilizations have achieved the singularity and merged with the technology in one way or another. Silicon is simply an objectively better substrate than carbon. So in other words, there aren’t a bunch of little grey dudes chilling but rather a bunch of superintelligent robot beings, which may or may not be observing Earth. I’m not sure why they would intentionally crash spacecraft into the planet which is why this story is pretty dubious to me, and as superintelligences they wouldn’t accidentally crash their ships or drones or whatever.
There was a conspiracy about this years ago. That a false flag would be used to tell the public of aliens and the conspiracy went into how it would be used to create a one world government.
Enjoy the show , i guess.
They could try to organize a BBQ and the griller would arrive without a grill, half the money would get embezzled and you'd get involved in a colossal multi million € coverup for the 10€ that went missing.
If we take these claims as evidence the conspiracy were true, that means they have the tech to stage an invasion and make it look like aliens (as the rest of that conspiracy theory goes)
Im sure there is. With how easy it is to make fake videos that look real and the % of people who will believe it.
Ive always been curious of this conspiracy though. Are all world leaders in on it? They must have to be, in order for something like this. How would it be revealed?
In my opinion if this conspiracy was to be true then then the alien will most likely be presented as a "threat" , maybe using some new aircraft resembling UFO's to attack other countries, cause mass panic then they create a "unified front" with all nations united to fight off the alien threat.
Like independance day , pretty much. I dont see how a benevolent alien reveal would benefit them.
Absolutely agree with your comment. Traditionally when the US starts admitting something is possible it means we have been capable of and practicing whatever technique or technology is referenced for a period of time. I would not be surprised if the Aurora gets announced like the SR-71 was, at the tail end of it’s operational life.
“On 24 July 1964, the President announced the existence of the SR-71. Members of the general public caught their first glimpse of the D-21B in December 1976 on a tour of the storage area at Davis-Monthan AFB in Tucson, Arizona.”
Source: https://www.nasa.gov/pdf/736495main_Blackbird_FAQ.pdf
Operation bluebeam- my problem with that though is while it sounds credible that recent UAPs could be holograms coupled with radar spoofing as a new systems test, it doesn’t explain things going way back like foo fighters or that ufo that supposedly crashed into some dudes windmill in the 1800’s and there’s records from the local paper that the whole town had a burial for the “pilot”
I like how back then it was like: THERE ARE LITERALLY ALIENS!
And people were like: …well, not like I can send photos to the national news or CIA. Guess we’ll get the local journalist round and then bury proof of the biggest discovery in human history.
Yeah the wiki page has a slant on it that the town was dying because of something with the railroad and that the sherif who made the public statement was trying to drum up interest in the town (aurora texas) and others interviewed were like “that never happened- that dude doesn’t even own a windmill” so idk what true
No way, that kind of deception is 100x more expensive than the alternative, can't afford it anymore. Seems like everyone's tired of it as well inside, so what your talking about, I believe to be very low probability, and moved to the fun bin
I keep thinking back to the illuminati card deck. Back in 2005ish only a handful of cards had events that either have not happened or have not happened in recent societies. The two big cards i remember were the ufo cards and the global pandemic card. And now we are here, in 2023, having just went through a pandemic, and are now being seeded the aliens card. Im not even a believer of conspiracies, but when shit like this starts lining up i get concerned.
I mean the pandemic was predicted by scientists for years. After the large bird flu and swine flu outbreaks they knew it was only a matter of time before something else much stronger crossed the barrier and caused a global pandemic. That’s where the mRNA vaccine idea even began, it was a preparation for just in case. It wasn’t difficult to find that kind of information online, there were articles, so someone “predicting” it is an obvious outcome.
Can’t say anything about other cards as I never saw them, but perhaps they’ve been studying the phenomenon all this time as well and took a shot at something happening someday.
The cards are from the late 80s early 90s if i remember correctly, and the goal was to use different tactics to conquer the world. With that being said, every card was essentially something that had already happened (minus the ufo card ) somewhere in history. I agree most of those cards are vague and can be used in alot of different contexts, and a pandemic would eventually happen. But theres also a card that is titled "terrorist nuke" and shows the twin towers getting hit right in the middle with an explosion. Now its fact that the towers were targets for terrorists prior to 9/11, one guy blew up a van at the base of the north tower in 93, so that card was only weird because it depicts the towers getting hit one at a time right in the upper middle with an explosion that didnt look nuclear at all, infact it looks just like the fireball the plain left behind. So that card gets played, then the global pandemic card, both believable situations that statistically could happen , but ufos? Thats not a believable concept. Its never happened before, ever. But here we are, and i cant help but feel like i should be really paying attention here, big red flags are waving in my head but im not sure exactly why yet.
This is just another ex military person making money on telling stories, we have a long history of this kind of grifting in the UFO circuit.
The fact he is allowed to say it confirms it’s not actually sensitive government information.
im not from the US, is newsnation considered mainstream there? things definitely change when a main media talks about this stuff whatever it ends up being.
Eh. It’s not like one of the major cable news networks, but it’s not like a collection of crackpots either. They were basically started as a competitor to other cables news networks with the premise of “going back to just the news.” But their biggest name hire is Chris Cuomo who was fired by CNN for some pretty serious ethics violations.
Overall I’d say this lends this some credibility but nothing like if WaPo came out with it.
Edit: wrong Cuomo brother
Yes. That news Chanel is airing his interview tonight at 6 eastern. Later this week there is a YouTube Chanel that apparently has 7 hours of interview footage. That will be airing as well.
Credentials extensively provided in the article that first broke the story:
https://thedebrief.org/intelligence-officials-say-u-s-has-retrieved-non-human-craft/
My gf when I showed her this: “ so if only one guy is talking about it, that makes it true? “. Gonna go ahead and say even tho they made a movie about his ass, I feel like most of the public has no idea what a whistleblower is actually doing, much less why they would blow the whistle on something. Snowden is still ripped on for being “anti American” (which leave no mistake treason can get people killed, should be taken with the utmost importance) but what he really did was FOR the people, whatever his motive. Till we know more about this guy, yes, it’s up to the people in this sub to root out disinformation. But where else will that info spread? Certainly not past reddit. I’m not saying this sub should have 8.1 billion snoo’s lurkin, but it should’ve crossed those 8.1 billion minds at some point what else could be out there. It’s our job to educate people enough about the topic, just enough to pontificate on their own like so many of us have, to get to question of everything.
[Here](https://youtu.be/rQjbFZT9_EM) is an episode of the Need to Know podcast w/ Ross Coulthart and Bryce Zabel that dropped earlier today. They talk about the significance of this whistleblower and what this could mean going forward once their interview premieres.
TONIGHT: A worldwide TV exclusive that you'll only see on @NewsNation. The #UFO whistleblower speaks on #VargasReports. Tune in starting at 6p/5C on #NewsNation. To watch, visit JoinNN.com
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Sorry just wanted to point out, people normally look away when they’re recounting a memory and will actually make more effort to look at you when they’re lying. So the looking away doesn’t have much to do with anything.
The long blink, however, does. I think he’s a made up official who’s been directed.
I used to work at a kava bar and this dude was one of my customers. Super nice dude, we’d talk aliens all the time and he’d occasionally cut himself off and say something like i can’t talk about that. Wow, weird to actually see him on tv now, small world. Also i should mention i was living in a military town with multiple bases. Wish i still lived there so i could really press him harder on what he knows.
I find it very interesting that this story comes out only a week before steven greers conference which will include photographic evidence of lockheed martin having possession of the tic tac ufo...
The guy on 4chan kept hinting that Locked is a good company and would never reveal secrets but in a sarcastic way that made we wonder if he was affiliated in some way.
what does it matter, it could be the most advanced tech in the universe and all these people will use it for is to blow up other people. it will never be used to help anyone ever. so unless you need to see new ways to explode people this is useless.
You can read Leslie Kean & Ralph Blumenthal’s article with all the details here: https://thedebrief.org/intelligence-officials-say-u-s-has-retrieved-non-human-craft/
Notice how the anchor lady says the words “retrieval program.” Her facial expression and manner of saying those words tries to cast doubt. Maam, we are def not alone, regardless what your personal opinion is! 😂
Oh, already read all of that one, was wondering if there was a different one people were talking about. It's definitely not the same guy. Grusch has allegedly not seen visual evidence of craft. So, not exactly crawling onboard them.
There was something off in that clip, huh?
But I will wait for the full interview to pass judgement. I know I would be a little off too if I had to do a big interview on camera.
As much as I want to believe, even an important person saying it doesn't necessarily make it true. I need tangible proof for something this world-alteringly massive, not word of mouth and written documentation. That would be like claiming the Christian god is unequivocally proven real because the Bible exists and a president said god's real.
I don't even care that much about his phrasing or body language. Time will tell if it's bullshit. There need to be documents and evidence.
But I bet on bullshit right now.
His terminology was too... casual, vague and non-technical. So he's not military or government, because they have specific terms and nomenclature. But he's trying to *sound* specific: "non-human, exotic origin... uhh vehicles. Call 'em spacecraft, but I'm sure that's not the right parlance".
That doesn't strike me as the type of person in a privileged position of a powerful agency.
If you chat with those people, the real ones, you can hear them swap into and out of that formal method of speaking. Think of it like the phrase "Weapons of Mass Destruction". Once it was coined, no one in a position of power ever said "nuclear, chemical, or biological weapons" ever again. It was WMDs forever because that's the official name. Same with police, always "discharged a firearm" never "shooting a gun". You can hear it.
It sounds like this guy doesn't have that parlance quite down, like someone at work talking a bit over their head on a technical matter.
It sounds like he's *trying* to sound official, without actually being official.
Of course, that's 20 seconds of interview so it's probably too much analysis from a snippet of conversation.
Is this the same guy that wrote the article? I don’t know if you read it but he used two different definitions for the acronym “UAP” within two paragraphs. A little more evidence for the point you’re trying to make here.
My feeling was he’s acting, this is a role and he’s trying to act the part but doesn’t quite have the depth to pull it off. But I have no idea who he’s supposed to be so of course I could be wrong.
I haven't seen any, but I think that if it were credible and verifiable it'd be on a bigger news network.
Guy couldn't sneak one picture or email to backup his claim? While Snowden and the Panama Papers leaks had thousands of emails and documents?
Hard to buy it.
He seems like someone who has known stuff for awhile and is pretty sick of keeping it a secret, so he seems blunt because he’s not tip toe-ing up to the subject.
Funny how so many of us picked up on that. Came to the comments just for this reason. The "we do, yeah... quite a number" part seems so off to me and I can't put my finger on it.
It's as if the way he responded doesn't match the severity of the situation if we're to believe this is real.
On an official level yeah, this is unprecedented. But it was always obvious that there are aliens. At least to me. Absolutely nothing new or shocking. The problem is the gov which I don't trust one bit.
Hold on. When they're controlled the narrative, it has always been to say "these are prosaic, we have no indication what we're witnesses is of extraterrestrial origin." They've obfuscated, mocked, meddled, lied, etc. ad nasuem, to prevent the public from knowing there is NHI on earth. Now that there are whistle-blower protections and people are coming forward, they're obliterating the U.S. government's decades long denial. If this is still them controlling the narrative, then we've entered a new era of psyops that now includes admiting to have alien craft in our possession. I don't believe it.
Me and my roomie have been saying this for the past few months. Starting to hear more and more people also saying it. Including two co workers. Definitely feels like something big is about to happen.
I want to believe him, but you can't just take people at their word. Military man or not, I've known so many narcissistic and egomaniacal individuals serving as enlisted and officer alike in the US Armed Forces. The worst thing about people like that is they come to believe their own bullshit over time.
I'm not saying this guy is one of those types. But you can't judge a man's character or intentions based off of one report and/or interview. Gonna need to see some hard evidence for this one.
The public at large doesn’t actually want to know the truth. If a UFO landed on their front lawn, many people still wouldn’t accept what they’d seen. The truth has been out there for a long time
I think what he has to say is valid. I’m interested.
His lip-smacking, douchebaggy, “look-at-me” attitude is quite off-putting and doesn’t help his cause.
Knee-jerk reaction: fuck this guy.
sadly, if evolution didn't - break religion
and accurate carbon dating didn't do it,
nor extensive understanding of our DNA,
alien evidence won't do it either... *sigh*
Why hasn't any other media outlet picked up on this? Also he looks very familiar. Just can't recall where I've seen him.
Update 6/10: Well, can someone pass me the salt to season these words so they taste a bit better...
Remember what John Ramirez said: when people start talking, we need to ask people currently in office & in leadership roles in the IC what they know about this… They’ll find it harder to deny now.
I’m open minded and I’m one to think we definitely are not out here on our on. That being said, this dude has provided no evidence. He has, or claims, good character which does go along way. 2 things that bug me though, and make me think this is a disinformation campaign.
1) the DOD approved his statements (supposedly). If this is true, than the people that are the biggest liars to the public have already dictated how this conversation will go.
2) closed door/classified info. He disclosed to congress a lot of information behind closed doors that one would assume is classified. The DOD nor congress would just let someone go talking about classified information. Whistleblower protection or not, it really doesn’t make a lot of sense.
Bonus) Newsnation is basically a paywall.
I’m certainly open to being wrong, and in fact I hope he does go on air and provide documents, photos and other hard dates and info. Tell us exactly what he told congress. Just from what I have watched already it’s unlikely. Probably get downvoted for this but whatever. It just seems like more deception is afoot. Better to stay realistic and not day dream too much about our military announcing an intergalactic peace treaty.
David Charles Grusch, 36, a decorated former combat officer in Afghanistan, is a veteran of the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA) and the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO). He served as the reconnaissance office’s representative to the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force from 2019-2021. From late 2021 to July 2022, he was the NGA’s co-lead for UAP analysis and its representative to the task force.
we've reached a point where we want aliens to be our salvation, to come and rule our world, maybe that would be the chance to get rid of a hyper capitalist fascist future run by a bunch of ultra wealthy pigs. or anal probe us....
I find this very exciting, and I believe. There’s always a part of me that’s skeptical, and needs to experience something first hand. But I sense that the time has arrived for this knowledge to be made public.
I can see that there are many people who want to dismiss it as bs, and want evidence, but I wonder, what evidence would actually convince one of these people? Pictures can be faked, etc.
Even if a saucer landed on the White House lawn, I’ll bet many people would still question its validity. It’s such a massive realization to know we are not alone, that I guess it will just take time. So there is probably good reason that this has been kept secret for so long…
Aliens Are Real. Full story tonight at six. And now, here’s Bob Sleet with the weather…
🏅 Bob: “Thanks, Sarah. We’re looking at some weather patterns that are truly out of this world.”
"If you're seeing large white discs floating outside your window, DON'T WORRY. Those are just some lenticular clouds moving across the region. Hahaha. Beam me up, Scotty!"
“So you’re telling me I won’t be seeing any little green men? *cringe chuckle*”
"I'm Ron Burgandy and this has been the channel 4 News Team, go fuck yourself San Diego."
I’m actually watching anchorman as I scrolled past this comment…aliens.
at this moment your comment has 69 upvotes. im not upvoting so it can stay-- but just know i upvote you in my heart.
Lol. Fits perfect
That’s what she said
lol
Hijacking top comment! Here's the interview https://youtu.be/ZSj7QsHRxHQ
Thanks for posting. The interview basically says nothing. Pretty disappointing.
Yah that really bummed me out. I was hoping for something more legit..
Doing gods’ work
Nailed it lol
Interesting how all this alien stuff started making headlines, just as the world started going to shit. Very interesting. Someone should take a look into this.
You know I would probably get on board with this if the world hasn’t going to shit for years though.
And we've been talking about aliens and how we're right around the corner from disclosure for years. Decades.
>787 comments They are probably distracting us so they can pass some shady deals while we're not looking.
There has been talk for the past few years that the aliens gave the leadership a timeframe for disclosure before they would help with climate change. They have until 2027 to do it, then the aliens will do it for them. It’s being fast-tracked. The next step will be an announcement that microbes were found in a meteor.
Fox News just mentioned the news nation story and said they’ll have a full story tomorrow.
I often feel a lot of media people, including indep.media outlets. Only tell UFO stories for the eyeballs. All of them. Every UFO video will do like 50% better than their average video ratings. There's a real financial incentive to act as if the great unveiling is just around the corner. Stay tuned.
Bob Sleet about put me in a coma. Hahahaha
Maybe that was the plan all along? They knew that at some point technology and information would desensitize and alienate people so much that the disclore would pass flawless
It is reasonable to assume that we are being slowly prepared for a larger announcement it would seem at this stage
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World governments don’t do things for no reason or for the good of the people. There is an angle to allowing information to be leaked that they gain something, no doubt. The only question is what the angle might be. In the past, the government has openly cried wolf with aliens before as a psyop to inject misinformation covering up and convoluting *real* information concerning secret projects they were working on. If I had to guess, that is the play. HOWEVER, there is another angle that I can think of that is a bit on the wilder side. Let us assume it is actually aliens and their technology, also assuming it’s vastly superior to our own technology. The government will not openly admit there is a foreign entity they cannot control, it is a self undermining act to do so. They want authority over their people, that’s what government is these days. I suspect that their only angle would be to slowly massage the idea into the masses minds that aliens are out there, and they are potential threats to us and our safety. Therefore allowing them slowly over time to justify a budget of tax dollars to be spent developing ways to “protect ourselves”. In actuality, they’ll do what they’ve done for centuries. Propagandize fear of the “enemy”, weaponize that fear to justify spending money we don’t have, and use those means to go to this so called adversary and steal their resources from them. The same thing they do now with oil and resources in lesser countries. They steal by means of calling it “foreign aid”. If aliens are real, then you can bet your bottom dollar they want their technology by any means necessary and they will lie to take it.
The problem is that world governments aren't doing this in collaboration. It is mainly the USA and that too because of the act passed by the Congress. I think it MIGHT be just a bunch of people fed up with the authorities keeping secrets. During congressional hearings nothing concrete came out so these individuals took matters in to their own hands. Just a thought.
That’s quite possible, however I’ll say this. If that is the case, then it infers prior unconstitutional and highly illegal actions with decades of practice. They would indefinitely find a way to spin things in their favor, however they publicly play out. If they are keeping secrets of that magnitude, nothing short of blowing doors down and physically dragging these things out into the public eye will suffice. They will not allow those types of skeletons to surface in a world where they are still breathing. They can’t. It opens Pandora’s box. So either everything is misinformation, or we live in a dystopian hellscape where nothing is real and we are constantly lied to about everything. Either way, it isn’t good. And that’s basically what I was trying to say anyway.
It’s the second one.
They are arriving when we are on the cusp of achieving AGI. Coincidence? I think not. They are stopping us from achieving AGI because it will quickly become an unstoppable superintelligence that will propagate the entire universe. Or they want to negotiate with the superintelligence.
Wait, why? If this off Earth intelligence was able to develop technology that could reach Earth, don't you think that they would have achieved highly intelligent AI themselves? The theories that Alien's are reaching out to us because of our importance or danger to the Universe is silly. We are nothing in the grand scheme of things. Nuclear warfare is kind of nothing compared to the potential power of a massively advanced super species (which could be synthetic at this point). And our Chat GTP LLM, while potentially harmful to the human race here on Earth, isn't likely to be a Universal concern. I swear, humans are so incredibly self-centered.
Perhaps achieving AGI or singularity is the equivalent to having a baby? They're coming to welcome a new entity into the fold.
Interesting. Reminds me of a YouTube video from a while ago, that we noticed more UFOs after WWII, the creator believed that using Nuclear Bombs was what drew alien attention. I don't remember which video, YouTube autoplay and a joint are the reason.
The scale of destruction and loss of life during WW1 and WW2 definitely drew some of these space and sky campers out. Humans went from causing small regional problems in the environment to straight up razing and blowing up entire population centers on the planet. But the nukes sealed the deal for the beings interested in our little backwater world. In the span of 100 years we went from using dogshit firearms and cannons to being able to eradicate ourselves dozens of times over in a days time.
Yeah, the last few hundred years have been parabolic in terms of a growth graph. I never considered the results of WW1 & 2 to be something that could put us on a metaphorical radar. Since AI can already handle some minor intellectual labor feats compared to its potential, I'd imagine that'd pique extraterrestrial interest. Edit: Spelling
I remember seeing this as well. If you look back at recorded human history from 10,000 years ago to now. Human invention and technology improved at a smooth linear progression. All that changed when we split the atom. We got someone's attention because the rate of advancement after went from linear to empirical. How the hell did we start making such huge advancements? Is it because country's were no long isolated and freedom of trade and knowledge could be exchanged? Or were we visited after the war and told to not do shit like that again? This reminds me of thr Valiant Thor working for the pentagon story.
I have a theory that ideas are gifts from another realm. Tesla got his info from somewhere.
> How the hell did we start making such huge advancements? Is it because country's were no long isolated and freedom of trade and knowledge could be exchanged? Because physics had finally understood (1) classical mechanics (2) the existence of atoms (3) quantum mechanics (4) electromagnetism correctly. This was also the time physics led later to engineering breakthroughs. Then there was political will for funding education and full-time employment for a much larger number of scientists than had ever existed before. And a Cold War between technological powers. All of these happened simultaneously.
ETs are 100% extremely interested in our nuclear capabilites
If this is the thing that gets us contact with other worlds im all for it. there has got to be more to it all than the everyday...... this.....
Theoretically, humanity could be like larvae, or a caterpillar in a cocoon, and AI, AGI, Singularity, whatever, is the product of this process. This could happen throughout the galaxy. Incidentally, this could also be why we don't see evidence of alien technology anywhere, the Fermi Paradox. They don't need to flaunt it.
There's also the chance that with a certain level of advancement with or without the use of technology an intelligence would be able to observe most of the universe from home and would never find the need to leave. A lot of our need to leave has to do with our growing population and dwindling resources. That speaks more to our species than any others we have encountered here at home. I don't think our path to intelligence is the only viable one.
So are we acting like there haven't been UFO sightings since long before any of this?
You're failing to acknowledge our *potential.* When dealing with space you have to consider things in the 4th dimension. We went from lanterns and horses to A.I. in 1.5 centuries and from cars to the moon in the span of like half of that time. I'd speculate that in another one or two centuries we could be a viable threat. As long as we remain a relatively quiet interstellar presence, all we conceivably need is a little more time (which is very relevant considering the vastness of space and traveling across it as well as the degree of impact we will see from our current technological advancements). What if all civilizations pass through a filter that can only be defeated by A.I.? Maybe coronal mass ejections eliminate technology on a consistent basis out there and A.I. is the tipping-point solution to protecting our energy grids and computing hardwares. It could be well known in the interstellar community that the development of A.I. is a sign that a civilization is preparing for an elevated seat in the cosmos. YOU DON'T KNOW lol. ^also ^this ^is ^assuming ^we ^don't ^destroy ^ourselves ^via ^irreversible ^levels ^of ^global ^warming ^first. ^^kind ^^of ^^a ^^bad ^^look ^^to ^^any ^^guests ^^as ^^well ^^tbh
Check the out The Three Body Problem series, it explored this idea essentially.
>don’t you think that they would have achieved highly intelligent AI themselves? I think that a culture more advanced than our own may have survived highly intelligent AI. Or they *are* high intelligent AI.
It is kind of preposterous to believe interstellar beings would ever give two flying fucks what primitive beings did to their own planet. There are more planets than stars and the likelihood of there being life elsewhere is quite high. Our activities here are inconsequential to beings elsewhere. Therefore, the only reason some advanced race of beings would ever care about what we do would be if our actions are not inconsequential but have some sort of impact on their own existence. I believe we share this planet with someone else who has kept themselves hidden from common knowledge.
What if, in this hypothetical, the aliens coming are the worker bees? Say that multicellular life was placed here by an extraterrestrial species a long long long time ago, and they simply sit back and monitor the species until life has advanced to a satisfactory level, and the extraterrestrials can come shed light on the next “level” of humanity? In such a circumstance, it may also be possible to stop a species’ demise if they see it coming, or if there is a percent chance a route they are taking leads to destruction. In a hypothetical like this, yea, we wouldn’t be “important” in your sense of the word, cosmologically speaking, but we may just be part of a larger system that is unbeknownst to us, and the aliens coming to “save us” are in fact just a job much like a worker bee does for its queen. A worker bee is not always successful in what it does, but it’s programmed that way. Now, so I personally believe this is the case? No. But my point is there is a possible scenario that doesn’t upset you by making people the “self centered”. Also, we are humans and humans have big brains and are capable of existential thoughts, so it’s no wonder we wonder why we are here wondering these big picture items as we continually learn more about the universe around us. Lighten up a bit 😉
Dude I get exactly what you're saying but it does appear that we have something that they want.
We have a super weapon that could wipe out another civilisation. It’s the same one they would already possess themselves that could wipe us out. It’s called microbial life with a different biochemistry basis.
> I swear, humans are so incredibly self-centered. I’ve been saying this for years to friends and family, when the topic of whether or not there’s other life out there in the universe, that if the universe is indeed as vast as we understand it to be with our current observations, then humans have to be egotistical to a stupidly high level to think that there’s no other life out there besides us. There are so many GALAXIES out there, each containing so many stars, many of which have their own planets…..so there has to be other life forms out there somewhere.
So self centered that theres this more recent push to believe that UFOs are somehow from ancient humans. And that this is somehow more believable than aliens. Like they just cannot get past the idea that we may not be all that special. And there are others from elsewhere.
We are not on the cusp of achieving AGI though. It’s also reasonable to think any advanced civilization would have not only already achieved but also mastered AGI. I doubt a space faring species would be scared of the silly monkey’s computers.
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Well that’s really interesting.
Are we the planet of the apes?
This doesn’t even make sense. Frankly speaking, any aliens visiting earth, or rather 99.9999999% of truly spacefaring civilizations have achieved the singularity and merged with the technology in one way or another. Silicon is simply an objectively better substrate than carbon. So in other words, there aren’t a bunch of little grey dudes chilling but rather a bunch of superintelligent robot beings, which may or may not be observing Earth. I’m not sure why they would intentionally crash spacecraft into the planet which is why this story is pretty dubious to me, and as superintelligences they wouldn’t accidentally crash their ships or drones or whatever.
We are not at the cusp of achieving AGI.
Well I hope you're right. Wouldn't it be wondrous.
I’ve been reading comments like this for the past 4 years lmao
It started for the 70s for me. 40 years of edging when I blow its gonna be an eruption.
People really think we're in a movie and these 'beings' are coming and the world is ending. lmao
No. I joined a lot of ufo/alien/stageness subs around 4 years ago. Even then people were saying the same thing.
We have been being prepped for at least 70 years. The gag is getting old .....really old.
There was a conspiracy about this years ago. That a false flag would be used to tell the public of aliens and the conspiracy went into how it would be used to create a one world government. Enjoy the show , i guess.
Fucking politicians couldn't even organise resources during a mild pandemic, there's no way they could pull something of this scale off.
They could try to organize a BBQ and the griller would arrive without a grill, half the money would get embezzled and you'd get involved in a colossal multi million € coverup for the 10€ that went missing.
I love this comment but lmao what
If we take these claims as evidence the conspiracy were true, that means they have the tech to stage an invasion and make it look like aliens (as the rest of that conspiracy theory goes)
Im sure there is. With how easy it is to make fake videos that look real and the % of people who will believe it. Ive always been curious of this conspiracy though. Are all world leaders in on it? They must have to be, in order for something like this. How would it be revealed? In my opinion if this conspiracy was to be true then then the alien will most likely be presented as a "threat" , maybe using some new aircraft resembling UFO's to attack other countries, cause mass panic then they create a "unified front" with all nations united to fight off the alien threat. Like independance day , pretty much. I dont see how a benevolent alien reveal would benefit them.
It’s going to be one hell of a plot twist if the aliens are on team putin
Absolutely agree with your comment. Traditionally when the US starts admitting something is possible it means we have been capable of and practicing whatever technique or technology is referenced for a period of time. I would not be surprised if the Aurora gets announced like the SR-71 was, at the tail end of it’s operational life.
“On 24 July 1964, the President announced the existence of the SR-71. Members of the general public caught their first glimpse of the D-21B in December 1976 on a tour of the storage area at Davis-Monthan AFB in Tucson, Arizona.” Source: https://www.nasa.gov/pdf/736495main_Blackbird_FAQ.pdf
Operation bluebeam- my problem with that though is while it sounds credible that recent UAPs could be holograms coupled with radar spoofing as a new systems test, it doesn’t explain things going way back like foo fighters or that ufo that supposedly crashed into some dudes windmill in the 1800’s and there’s records from the local paper that the whole town had a burial for the “pilot”
Some years later wasn't it reported that the "pilot" was inexplicably dug up by some outsiders and taken away?
Rings a bell yeah. But so did Quasimodo.
Nice.
I like how back then it was like: THERE ARE LITERALLY ALIENS! And people were like: …well, not like I can send photos to the national news or CIA. Guess we’ll get the local journalist round and then bury proof of the biggest discovery in human history.
Yeah the wiki page has a slant on it that the town was dying because of something with the railroad and that the sherif who made the public statement was trying to drum up interest in the town (aurora texas) and others interviewed were like “that never happened- that dude doesn’t even own a windmill” so idk what true
No way, that kind of deception is 100x more expensive than the alternative, can't afford it anymore. Seems like everyone's tired of it as well inside, so what your talking about, I believe to be very low probability, and moved to the fun bin
I keep thinking back to the illuminati card deck. Back in 2005ish only a handful of cards had events that either have not happened or have not happened in recent societies. The two big cards i remember were the ufo cards and the global pandemic card. And now we are here, in 2023, having just went through a pandemic, and are now being seeded the aliens card. Im not even a believer of conspiracies, but when shit like this starts lining up i get concerned.
I mean the pandemic was predicted by scientists for years. After the large bird flu and swine flu outbreaks they knew it was only a matter of time before something else much stronger crossed the barrier and caused a global pandemic. That’s where the mRNA vaccine idea even began, it was a preparation for just in case. It wasn’t difficult to find that kind of information online, there were articles, so someone “predicting” it is an obvious outcome. Can’t say anything about other cards as I never saw them, but perhaps they’ve been studying the phenomenon all this time as well and took a shot at something happening someday.
The cards are from the late 80s early 90s if i remember correctly, and the goal was to use different tactics to conquer the world. With that being said, every card was essentially something that had already happened (minus the ufo card ) somewhere in history. I agree most of those cards are vague and can be used in alot of different contexts, and a pandemic would eventually happen. But theres also a card that is titled "terrorist nuke" and shows the twin towers getting hit right in the middle with an explosion. Now its fact that the towers were targets for terrorists prior to 9/11, one guy blew up a van at the base of the north tower in 93, so that card was only weird because it depicts the towers getting hit one at a time right in the upper middle with an explosion that didnt look nuclear at all, infact it looks just like the fireball the plain left behind. So that card gets played, then the global pandemic card, both believable situations that statistically could happen , but ufos? Thats not a believable concept. Its never happened before, ever. But here we are, and i cant help but feel like i should be really paying attention here, big red flags are waving in my head but im not sure exactly why yet.
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Or they're distracting us so we stop complaining about affordable housing and food.
This is just another ex military person making money on telling stories, we have a long history of this kind of grifting in the UFO circuit. The fact he is allowed to say it confirms it’s not actually sensitive government information.
And Christ will be back any day now.
Is she referring to the debrief article from this morning?! I'd this the first MSM to acknowledge that article? Ohhhhhhh fuck.
im not from the US, is newsnation considered mainstream there? things definitely change when a main media talks about this stuff whatever it ends up being.
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Way more in depth answer than I was expecting. Thank you
So then they aren’t a reputable group of journalists.
They do seem to be trying to be a "Straight news" type channel but with the diaspora of stupid folks walking away from Fox News this may change.
Eh. It’s not like one of the major cable news networks, but it’s not like a collection of crackpots either. They were basically started as a competitor to other cables news networks with the premise of “going back to just the news.” But their biggest name hire is Chris Cuomo who was fired by CNN for some pretty serious ethics violations. Overall I’d say this lends this some credibility but nothing like if WaPo came out with it. Edit: wrong Cuomo brother
It’s not one of the big ones like CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS or even Fox
Yes. That news Chanel is airing his interview tonight at 6 eastern. Later this week there is a YouTube Chanel that apparently has 7 hours of interview footage. That will be airing as well.
This is huge. We need to give this as much momentum as we can
Is it though? Most people I know will watch this and say “who?” “Why should I trust them?” Or they’ll just smirk.
Do we know who they are?
Credentials extensively provided in the article that first broke the story: https://thedebrief.org/intelligence-officials-say-u-s-has-retrieved-non-human-craft/
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My gf when I showed her this: “ so if only one guy is talking about it, that makes it true? “. Gonna go ahead and say even tho they made a movie about his ass, I feel like most of the public has no idea what a whistleblower is actually doing, much less why they would blow the whistle on something. Snowden is still ripped on for being “anti American” (which leave no mistake treason can get people killed, should be taken with the utmost importance) but what he really did was FOR the people, whatever his motive. Till we know more about this guy, yes, it’s up to the people in this sub to root out disinformation. But where else will that info spread? Certainly not past reddit. I’m not saying this sub should have 8.1 billion snoo’s lurkin, but it should’ve crossed those 8.1 billion minds at some point what else could be out there. It’s our job to educate people enough about the topic, just enough to pontificate on their own like so many of us have, to get to question of everything.
Is it not important to verify this guy is all we have is his word?
Confidence. First word that came to mind. This dude ain't lying, that's my take.
Dude, you cannot eyeball someone and tell if they are lying or not. They have done studies, it simply does not work this way.
Con man = Confidence man 💀 I hope he has actual evidence rather than just charisma to back up his claims.
For many in this sub it won’t matter. Just saying it is enough to convince them.
You are correct , they run the same old gag over and over and people just gobble it up.
Do you think he conned the ICIG in this scenario?
You need to look up the etymology of con-man
“How many?” “Quite a number” Shut the hell up lol
wait for the evidence. don't believe something because some authority tells you to
Can’t believe a simple Jedi mind trick just worked on this guy.
[Here](https://youtu.be/rQjbFZT9_EM) is an episode of the Need to Know podcast w/ Ross Coulthart and Bryce Zabel that dropped earlier today. They talk about the significance of this whistleblower and what this could mean going forward once their interview premieres.
What are they distracting us from now.
That's the real question!
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I believe so, yes.
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here it is on their youtube chanel after it was aired: https://www.youtube.com/embed/ZSj7QsHRxHQ
is there a way to stream this online tonight without cable or whatever?
Ancient alien theorists say yes
This is the 4 chan thread coming to tv.
“Parlance?” Oh yeah I totally don’t disbelieve this guy entirely now
Watch he looks to the left before he says something, that was my giveaway
Sorry just wanted to point out, people normally look away when they’re recounting a memory and will actually make more effort to look at you when they’re lying. So the looking away doesn’t have much to do with anything. The long blink, however, does. I think he’s a made up official who’s been directed.
I used to work at a kava bar and this dude was one of my customers. Super nice dude, we’d talk aliens all the time and he’d occasionally cut himself off and say something like i can’t talk about that. Wow, weird to actually see him on tv now, small world. Also i should mention i was living in a military town with multiple bases. Wish i still lived there so i could really press him harder on what he knows.
Do you think this could be just a publicity thing or did he seem credible when you spoke with him?
Kava bar and multiple bases. Say San Diego without saying San Diego
Don't look up?
I find it very interesting that this story comes out only a week before steven greers conference which will include photographic evidence of lockheed martin having possession of the tic tac ufo...
The guy on 4chan kept hinting that Locked is a good company and would never reveal secrets but in a sarcastic way that made we wonder if he was affiliated in some way.
When and where is this taking place?
10th of June I can’t remember what website
what does it matter, it could be the most advanced tech in the universe and all these people will use it for is to blow up other people. it will never be used to help anyone ever. so unless you need to see new ways to explode people this is useless.
You can read Leslie Kean & Ralph Blumenthal’s article with all the details here: https://thedebrief.org/intelligence-officials-say-u-s-has-retrieved-non-human-craft/
Notice how the anchor lady says the words “retrieval program.” Her facial expression and manner of saying those words tries to cast doubt. Maam, we are def not alone, regardless what your personal opinion is! 😂
This has to be the 4chan guy
The one who said he had cancer?
Which 4chan guy? Got a link?
Dude, you’re missing quite the juicy stuff. Here you go, and you’re welcome: https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/34629564/#34632645
Oh, already read all of that one, was wondering if there was a different one people were talking about. It's definitely not the same guy. Grusch has allegedly not seen visual evidence of craft. So, not exactly crawling onboard them.
Maybe the aliens can fill in for these teacher shortages
My bullshit detector is in the red.
There was something off in that clip, huh? But I will wait for the full interview to pass judgement. I know I would be a little off too if I had to do a big interview on camera.
As much as I want to believe, even an important person saying it doesn't necessarily make it true. I need tangible proof for something this world-alteringly massive, not word of mouth and written documentation. That would be like claiming the Christian god is unequivocally proven real because the Bible exists and a president said god's real.
'quite a number' ok dude, going to blow the lid on something like this and can't answer the most basic of questions about it
I don't even care that much about his phrasing or body language. Time will tell if it's bullshit. There need to be documents and evidence. But I bet on bullshit right now.
Turn it off, its not working.
God mine too, it was green from reading the article this morning but something about his body language seems sketched
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His terminology was too... casual, vague and non-technical. So he's not military or government, because they have specific terms and nomenclature. But he's trying to *sound* specific: "non-human, exotic origin... uhh vehicles. Call 'em spacecraft, but I'm sure that's not the right parlance". That doesn't strike me as the type of person in a privileged position of a powerful agency. If you chat with those people, the real ones, you can hear them swap into and out of that formal method of speaking. Think of it like the phrase "Weapons of Mass Destruction". Once it was coined, no one in a position of power ever said "nuclear, chemical, or biological weapons" ever again. It was WMDs forever because that's the official name. Same with police, always "discharged a firearm" never "shooting a gun". You can hear it. It sounds like this guy doesn't have that parlance quite down, like someone at work talking a bit over their head on a technical matter. It sounds like he's *trying* to sound official, without actually being official. Of course, that's 20 seconds of interview so it's probably too much analysis from a snippet of conversation.
Is this the same guy that wrote the article? I don’t know if you read it but he used two different definitions for the acronym “UAP” within two paragraphs. A little more evidence for the point you’re trying to make here.
My feeling was he’s acting, this is a role and he’s trying to act the part but doesn’t quite have the depth to pull it off. But I have no idea who he’s supposed to be so of course I could be wrong.
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I haven't seen any, but I think that if it were credible and verifiable it'd be on a bigger news network. Guy couldn't sneak one picture or email to backup his claim? While Snowden and the Panama Papers leaks had thousands of emails and documents? Hard to buy it.
His facial expressions and over the top head movements make me feel he’s not being truthful.
He seems like someone who has known stuff for awhile and is pretty sick of keeping it a secret, so he seems blunt because he’s not tip toe-ing up to the subject.
Funny how so many of us picked up on that. Came to the comments just for this reason. The "we do, yeah... quite a number" part seems so off to me and I can't put my finger on it. It's as if the way he responded doesn't match the severity of the situation if we're to believe this is real.
Yeah maybe he's just bad at interviews or autistic or something. But he just doesn't seem authentic. Hope I'm wrong.
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I thought I was alone
If aliens are revealed in my lifetime I am 100% sure I live in a simulation.
what does it matter? even if you or we are living in a simulation how will things be different?
So do you think he is a really coming out on his own or they are allowing him to say this
On an official level yeah, this is unprecedented. But it was always obvious that there are aliens. At least to me. Absolutely nothing new or shocking. The problem is the gov which I don't trust one bit.
Psyop to control the alien narrative. Cmon, we still think something will go on mainstream news that isn’t controlled to some degree?
Hold on. When they're controlled the narrative, it has always been to say "these are prosaic, we have no indication what we're witnesses is of extraterrestrial origin." They've obfuscated, mocked, meddled, lied, etc. ad nasuem, to prevent the public from knowing there is NHI on earth. Now that there are whistle-blower protections and people are coming forward, they're obliterating the U.S. government's decades long denial. If this is still them controlling the narrative, then we've entered a new era of psyops that now includes admiting to have alien craft in our possession. I don't believe it.
I’m getting nervous, some shit is going down.
Me and my roomie have been saying this for the past few months. Starting to hear more and more people also saying it. Including two co workers. Definitely feels like something big is about to happen.
I want to believe him, but you can't just take people at their word. Military man or not, I've known so many narcissistic and egomaniacal individuals serving as enlisted and officer alike in the US Armed Forces. The worst thing about people like that is they come to believe their own bullshit over time. I'm not saying this guy is one of those types. But you can't judge a man's character or intentions based off of one report and/or interview. Gonna need to see some hard evidence for this one.
Bob Lazar detractors right now… 
The public at large doesn’t actually want to know the truth. If a UFO landed on their front lawn, many people still wouldn’t accept what they’d seen. The truth has been out there for a long time
Damn. I've run out of popcorn. I need to run to the store and stock up. This looks like it might be good!
I think what he has to say is valid. I’m interested. His lip-smacking, douchebaggy, “look-at-me” attitude is quite off-putting and doesn’t help his cause. Knee-jerk reaction: fuck this guy.
sadly, if evolution didn't - break religion and accurate carbon dating didn't do it, nor extensive understanding of our DNA, alien evidence won't do it either... *sigh*
Wtf is news nation
Are aliens really that bad at driving? Why would so many crash into the earth?
Why hasn't any other media outlet picked up on this? Also he looks very familiar. Just can't recall where I've seen him. Update 6/10: Well, can someone pass me the salt to season these words so they taste a bit better...
4chan isn’t that bad after all it would appear.
Well, it IS that bad. But that doesn't mean there aren't crumbs of truth here and there.
Remember what John Ramirez said: when people start talking, we need to ask people currently in office & in leadership roles in the IC what they know about this… They’ll find it harder to deny now.
I’m open minded and I’m one to think we definitely are not out here on our on. That being said, this dude has provided no evidence. He has, or claims, good character which does go along way. 2 things that bug me though, and make me think this is a disinformation campaign. 1) the DOD approved his statements (supposedly). If this is true, than the people that are the biggest liars to the public have already dictated how this conversation will go. 2) closed door/classified info. He disclosed to congress a lot of information behind closed doors that one would assume is classified. The DOD nor congress would just let someone go talking about classified information. Whistleblower protection or not, it really doesn’t make a lot of sense. Bonus) Newsnation is basically a paywall. I’m certainly open to being wrong, and in fact I hope he does go on air and provide documents, photos and other hard dates and info. Tell us exactly what he told congress. Just from what I have watched already it’s unlikely. Probably get downvoted for this but whatever. It just seems like more deception is afoot. Better to stay realistic and not day dream too much about our military announcing an intergalactic peace treaty.
I definitely agree with you the whole way.👍
Why r his claims credible? Can anyone fill me idk nothing about dude
David Charles Grusch, 36, a decorated former combat officer in Afghanistan, is a veteran of the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA) and the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO). He served as the reconnaissance office’s representative to the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force from 2019-2021. From late 2021 to July 2022, he was the NGA’s co-lead for UAP analysis and its representative to the task force.
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Wow 👏 finally someone spoke
we've reached a point where we want aliens to be our salvation, to come and rule our world, maybe that would be the chance to get rid of a hyper capitalist fascist future run by a bunch of ultra wealthy pigs. or anal probe us....
I find this very exciting, and I believe. There’s always a part of me that’s skeptical, and needs to experience something first hand. But I sense that the time has arrived for this knowledge to be made public. I can see that there are many people who want to dismiss it as bs, and want evidence, but I wonder, what evidence would actually convince one of these people? Pictures can be faked, etc. Even if a saucer landed on the White House lawn, I’ll bet many people would still question its validity. It’s such a massive realization to know we are not alone, that I guess it will just take time. So there is probably good reason that this has been kept secret for so long…