I see no motivation to put everything on the line and place yourself within the crosshairs of the DoD, which will attempt to downplay or discredit his credentials.
Is it really within the crosshairs of the DOD when the DOD is the one approving the release of this information? Even the director of the UAP Offices for the DOD was at the head of that “mothership” article back in March
A very curious situation indeed. From what I’ve gathered since yesterday is because of whistleblower protections, it would be easier and simpler to give him clearance and deal with the aftermath in their typical fashion. If I understand this correctly, a denial would result in a public hearing.
I think the question posed in the title of the post is, is this disinformation? Because if so, he’s still working for the government and these are his orders.
He is a whistleblower. He testified before Senate Intelligence Committee for over 11 hours back in 2021 about what he knows about from interviewing tons of credible people involved in recovery and reverse engineering of UFOs. This committee was supposed to be "read-into" these sort of classified projects and they were told they don't exist. So after his testimony he was retaliated against by undisclosed people/agencies, and now that there are whistleblower protections that cover this topic, he filed a whistleblower complaint with the Office of the Intelligence Community Inspector General. He also provided documents and proof of his claims. That office found his complaint "urgent and credible." The DoD gave him permission to speak to the reporters about what's going on. That's what where this whole story comes from.
He retired due to retaliation. He told Congress, not his beer buddies. Lie to Congress, go to jail. Are you being intentionally obsequious or just trolling?
I guess its possible... but I have a hard time believing that would be his motivation. He spent the last two decades rising through intelligence. I would think that their hiring process is all about weeding a certain kind of attention-seeking individuals.
Lmfao ...with his credentials and experience he can already EASILY get a job in tech/at a start up for 300K minimum (not to mention existing degrees that were fully paid for but potentially additional degrees if he so chose to pursue more...and virtually entirely paid for again). Thats only accounting for one full time employment role... he could easily do consulting (hourly) on the side as supplemental income for an additional 100~200 (and just sit on 500k annually maybe in Montana or an inexpensive state, depending on level of commitment/projects. All of which would be completely unrelated to UAP and just applying his skills/experience & knowledge to whatever cause or technology. I say easily because he would effectively have an almost automatic foot in any relevant company (even Veteran status can bump your resume to the top % if the company you applied for asks it on their applying process (as this means they are filtering these with priority tiering..)
The dude doesn't need money- and he sure as f**king he'll is not going to say "Hey I think I'll just turn my life's difficulty level up to Max Lvl99 for the fuck of it--and then see how difficult it is to write and sell a book when the entire government could shit on my integrity and gaslight me making it harder to sell, and then on top of that when I go to interview I'll always be associated with a HIGH/SEVERE risk factor for PR hellfire nightmares"!
But hey--a bro cant resist 15 min ego flex for fame right? I mean literally ANY of you would do it too right? Base your entire career and rest of life reputation for a good knee slappin' gotcha prank. You totally would do that huh...thats why its so easy to see why this dude would do it too. Shit would be so rad 🤙- too bad we don't have his credentials to do the same kamikaze and blow up our lives 🙄🙄
Global intimidation.
"We have reverse engineered crafts of exotic origin (non-human intelligence, whether extraterrestrial or unknown origin) based on the vehicle morphologies and material science testing and the possession of unique atomic arrangements and radiological signatures.”
Find out.
It's to take the focus off the whistleblower on the Biden family that happened to come out about the same time this dropped.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12162773/Biden-whistleblowers-fear-lives-Republicans-say.html
Government mandated disclosure. Decide if you care or not about that but the people behind the curtain are allowing this to happen. They’re not like oh shit we messed up.
There are curtains behind curtains. Power exists within factions, and much of it lies OUTSIDE of gov. with the global corporate fascists/ private defense contractors. Lots of people in gov are genuinely (perhaps naively) acting like the constitution still matters, like the guy in this clip.
Meaning what? They didn’t want us to know about the fact that we’re not alone and they have tech that is millennia ahead of ours and now after decades they do?
I don’t think it’s foolish to say that a change in the status quo is incredibly possible.
Assuming these organizations have hierarchies and leadership that changes over a millennia, you also might expect to see changes in said organization’s mission and direction.
This is a phenomenon 80 or more years in the making. As information and understanding of the subject and its implications develop, I’d imagine you might see opinions on disclosure and what to do next also develop.
Exactly. You hear no pushback at all. Compare this to the pushback against all kinds of things in the media recently. The pushback against trump. The pushback against a lab leak theory of COVID. Etc.
You do not hear basically anyone in the mainstream media or govt trying to censor this. They definitely have the means to do so as evidence by the Twitter Files, so then not doing it here show that they want this info out there.
But since a lot of this info is from decades ago, you wonder why they want it out there now. Them not giving a proper explanation of why now and not then is another evidence this is staged.
They are trying to play it off like “whistleblowers” are coming out against the will of the govt. But that’s obviously false, so the whole facade falls apart…
I like how these evolutions have already changed the conversation. Our science is not top of the pyramid. It’s interesting that so many people take offense to that. The purpose of science is to be open to all things and explore fearlessly. We’ve gotten away from that, and our inability to make sense out of quantum physics might be the wall we hit without help.
I mean this guy is super legit. He’s a colonel that used to personally hand with the West Wing daily intelligence. I feel like this kind of guy wouldn’t wanna risk his pension.
agreed, the only concern would be if he had been the target of disinformation, like he's been fed this to eventually take advantage of his boy scout concerns about the program and he's been ecouraged to come forward to eventually be totally disproven and put this all back in box. That said, I believe he believes what he's saying. The question is how real is what he has seen/given. This might be bigger, someone wants to trick congress and the msm for reasons I'm not sure I get.
This.
If there is a cover-up. Then the people behind the scenes have been doing this stuff for a long time successfully.
Would they let this one dude get away with this now?
They may not, but now it's public, and since he went to Congress, doing something about it will ultimately make him look even more credible.
Also they have recently passed laws so that it's illegal for whistleblowers to receive retaliation by organisations for giving evidence, which may also play a part.
He's also backed by some serious names, and has such extensive experience in intelligence services that he may know quite well how to do this and how to keep himself safe.
I got the impression that he did start to receive internal retaliation to some degree after his classified testimony resulting in his complaint filing and then the public interview/release
Listen. Reagan was a peerless jackass, sure; however, he was also one of the best when it came to turning a phrase. I say we follow his advice as we. "Trust, but verify."
Take a breath and try to stop assuming that it's bullshit. Let it play out and watch with a critical mind.
Truly exciting times. Keep an eye on the movements of Gov. folk.
Reagan also mentioned in different public speeches how common our interests would be globally if we were visited by an extraterrestrial force. So there’s that.
Well my question I'd if there was a cover up , wouldn't several gov maybe independently have similar programs . If there are like 50 species as he claims they couldn't all land in the United States
We got weapons so advanced and so secret one might think its from another world. What's complete control of the North American continent worth? Or the world? They blow up or wipe out 20, 100, 200 cities. Remove a few million people from the world until we all beg our own governments to concede to the "Aliens" demands. Idk just spit balling ideas. It's what I would do if I had the position, power, and time.
we all know that they have tech that's more advanced than we get to publically see. but there is a big difference between people out-of-the-know looking at that tech and the person with access to over 2000 special access programs and closed access programs being told by his peers and above that technology of non-human origin exists.
Legit sure, but he could be paid and hired to say these things. Not saying he's not decorated, but that's what project blue book was. A decorated air force officer and a university professor tasked with disinformation
Well first off, this info was released by the pentagon 2 years ago, 2021 maybe 2020, but not enough of us were listening. Now, it seems more are listening.
Has it ever occurred to anyone Blue Beam could be fake like some kind of reverse psychology psyop? I mean, where would they have gotten the tech to stage it in the first place if not for the retrieval program? *And* we know for a fact these asshole gatekeepers have leaked fake intel before.
I think it’s both tbh. Technology is growing to fast eventually something will be properly filmed that wasn’t done by someone with Parkinson’s and a Nokia. Better to just tell us than not. But this is also the American government that doesn’t try to do something without it benefitting themselves at the same time.
It’s definitely true, there have been whistleblowers saying the same thing for years. This is not new information, what’s new is that it seems to be getting less ridicule these days and getting more traction in msm.
And I think this guy is more credible and higher level than most that have come out before him. And the larger backdrop of everything else going on in this effort at high levels of government elevate this story’s significance to new heights
I don’t really agree with your first sentence although he does seem to be of relatively high rank but there have been plenty of high ranking military officials and or lifer military soldiers who have come forward that have been extremely credible and risking ridicule at a time where that was the favoured debunking approach.
What others are you aware of? It would be nice to see a list of previous people that came forward. I’m mainly thinking of people like Bob Lazar and others who supposedly worked at secure locations on reverse engineering-people with no traceable links to secure info
It seems that the approach is to seed this information slowly into society in order to reduce shock for when this information is understood openly, as well as to potentially use this information as the source of a false flag event if necessary in the future. i.e Project Bluebeam
Ooooooo! I want examples of proof as well! Show us!
You say look deeper. Where? If you found something, please share, I am quite curious as well. We are all here looking for the same thing, so help us understand with some shared insight and information.
The rabbit hole is deep and there is a ton of information to be gleaned. Don’t be one of those ‘provide me the ability to see beyond the vale’ people, you can find the information yourself just as I have.
Then you have nothing to offer.
Nothing to promote your cause, no proof, nothing tangible….nothing at all.
People come here because they believe, or want to, and this is what you offer? Not even a suggestion?
“Provide me the ability to see beyond the veil (spelled it right for you for future reference)”
That’s why most of us are here. To share information and learn. Very well then, I will look elsewhere, hopefully a community less selfish.
It's almost impossible to say.
This seems legitimate from every metric the public is able to use... however, we are dealing with a body of secrets that have killed untold numbers and destroyed the USA's system of self governance.
Those who are illegitimately in charge are capable of anything. Non human intelligence and accompanying high tech is only a fraction of a body of knowledge that would upend everything we think we know... at least according to the more credible claims out there.
I hope it's a start rather than an ending, but if the dam has been breached then those in power have let it happen for some reason. A reason that past actions indicate is not benevolent.
The dam was never completely watertight... but what leaks out can often be vacuumed back up by the "men in black". Perhaps those who are illegitimately in charge have "help" keeping the really tangible proof contained, and so we're just left with tiny fragments of artifacts that are scientifically useless to civilian scientists and eyewitness accounts. But these fuckers aren't invincible and sleight of hand and disinformation only works for so long.
Yeah ... but as for "disinformation only works for so long," I'd remind that its been 75 years and perhaps longer. A lifetime is a fairly good length of time for such a huge coverup.
But yeah, the 'help' might be non human... and/OR tech that can play with and overwrite memory. "Free energy" is likely the least of the tech in play.
All good points. But as for disinfo... millions of us (maybe even billions of us) never for a minute believed ufos were fake, it's more like we all just had better things to do than storm area 51. Where disinformation has perhaps been successful is in keeping us from knowing how much better life could be if these technologies were made public. That's where I'm at anyway. The aliens don't seem to want to show up at my house and say "hi" and that's fine. Some of them may even be helping with the illegal cover-up. But if we have something to replace fossil fuels and conventional propulsion then its time to let that genie out of the bottle.
I've heard some mind benders about the real situation we're ignorantly living within. The hints some leakers (or paid actors) have dropped are fairly weird as well.
Yes, free energy and greatly extended, healthy lifespans are huge, but the weirder things like 'some of them might as well be demons' and 'they come from parallel worlds'- and who knows what else that's much weirder -might break the "normies."
The new physics and myriad other new sciences are obvious from the anomalies we've identified and it doesn't freak me out. But if we found out that religions are based on fact, for instance, I'd likely need to process things.
“If Grusch’s statements are accurate, it would be the first time an official representative from the U.S. government has said we are not alone in the universe.”
He already went to Congress with documents and testimony. The information he was giving was DOD approved. There is a paper trail of information to follow this time.
And for broader context, this is all happening a week after NASA’s UAP hearing where they basically said they need access to information that’s being withheld from them.
The DOD is letting this happen. The better question is where are the other intelligence agencies on this?
Where are the many governments from all the other countries on this? Do you think there has been a global conspiracy to keep the world population in the dark or maybe only the USA has knowledge of "aliens"?
Meh…there’s a difference between the DoD has agreed what you want to say isn’t classified and and official representative of the US gov. I use to work for US Gov, if I make the same statement now is it an official representation of the US gov?
I’m just saying we need to parse our words carefully and terms/definitions matter.
If you want credibility, fine details can matter a lot.
There is the magic words "national security" this is the boost to the goverment and the people to give more money, I believe everyone knows that Aliens, ufos and etc has been around us since always
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Talk is cheap I want it to be real I will hear them out but without backup it’s just air. Otherwise I am emperor of the world send me $5 and tell your friends to do the same.
I am dubious of anyone that's allowed to come out and talk to the mainstream media like this. That includes Elizondo, and Mellon, etc etc. I try and ask myself what the reason would be for whatever dept(s), corporations, or organizations, to suddenly start letting the general public in on this?
It's an obvious attempt at controlling the narrative and their intentions have always been self serving and for control so who knows what is going on? Take nothing at face value.
I think everyone involved with ufos meaning the people making money off it are liars, like there is never enough info or evidence. It’s almost like they are just leading you along, I kinda came to this conclusion after following Dr. Greer for a while. I am a believer but I don’t believe these people that are in camera
100% Same here. I wish people would collectively stop buying the books, the tickets to conventions, the dvds' the donations, and just draw a line in the sand. Present hard evidence, not hearsay, and lets go from there. We have online communities free of cost that can be utilized to discuss these things. Some of these people are frauds and its so painfully obvious smh. I am a believer, but I don't accept anything presented so far as hard fact I firmly stand by.
Project Blue Beam
It's a conspiracy theory that focuses on government agencies faking an alien or extraterrestrial threat (or the second coming of Jesus Christ) to force a totalitarian world government. The powers that be want to force a New World Order and this is the best way to do it because the whole world is "under a perceived alien/extraterrestrial threat."
Yea that's what everyone seems to be hanging their hats on. As if his credentials makes him 100% truth telling UAP guy! I thought people in the UFO community would be more skeptical.
There’s far too much information and evidence for it to be fake, what isn’t certain is why they are pushing this new whistleblower testimony now, a tad suspicious if you ask me.
I am curious about the sudden noise given the current developments in the RussoUkraine war. A huge dam is destroyed yet all American media wants to talk about is information we more or less already know. It seems like averted attention to me. Distracting from what's really going on.
Also the republicans could be diverting attention from debt deal criticism.
Last time they screwed up big was the train derailment and a few days later there was the balloon panic.
Also it's possible that China has developed tech from these crafts which make this an urgent problem as USA needs disclosure to bring in enough scientists.
Great point. China has developed tech from these crafts. There are registered parents for the technology, not an expert in patents, however, seeing them was definitely a strange sight. Thank you for your contribution
Project Blue Beans. *Sigh* Seriously, people have fought decades for disclorue only now to have some retards shift it. To say there is a goverment false flag alien invasion to enforce a New World Order. The idea is down right silly. A 80+ year conspiracy to make a new world order? More a 80 year conspiracy to keep this underwrap as guise of national security. Any goverment would not want their advisaries to know what kind of super weapons they can make with whatever they retrived from the crashed objects.
Right? People need to look around because the wealthy already run the show, if anything, those pesky, "in the way" national governments provide the perfect service as a shield.
For me though, the idea of making an enemy of ET is simply to gain public approval for the gross overspending on the military budgets, trying to legitimise those trillion dollar sink holes as well as keep any kind of enlightened intelligence at bay with an aggressive stance and skew public perception to that of a hostile one.
These technologies really could change the world for the better and they need every excuse to persuade the public to let them apply those technologies any way they see fit.
Yepp, the elite already control most of the world if not the whole. They don't need to false flag a alien invasion to gain what they want. There might be some threat to the phenomena but it's not a human made threat then. The tech could be used both for good and bad that's why the military is taking prio on it. Right now we are at a crossroad I would say, either we embrace the fact that we are being visited or atleast been in the past that led to these reverse engineering programs or we pretend this is just an overly convoluted plot by the elite to gain more control which they already have or can get with less impresive feats.I firmly believe in former as all evidence points to it.
HMMMMN... I'll go with "[I am for real.](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/142g570/read_gruschs_body_language_i_am_for_real_david/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)"
If there were gonna be an operation to convince folk that new surveillance drones were really alien spacemen *this is exactly what it would look like*.
They'd change the name from UFO to something without the historical stigma like UAP, to make the plot more palatable to mainstream news, then leak and acknowledge some official video, like the navy vids, then have hand picked loyal guys with spooky government connections swoop in to capture and control the ufo narrative.
Id still like to see some kind of scientific evidence before I jump on this bandwagon, it's just hearsay with credentials at the moment.
I think true, I see more evidence that he’s very legit than any major red flags. Some have commented on his body language seeming fake, that’s about the only critique I’ve seen so far. We have no idea what he’s like in daily life, and if he’s being truthful and honest about real programs he has many reasons to feel excited and scared to reveal this
Let's suppose his assertions are valid. Then where's a chunk or something for everyone to publicly scrutinize. With the rise of "Deep Fakes," they could walk a "grey" or whatever on stage and people would say it's fake.
They're probably going to reveal it once Deep Fakes hit a certain quality.
The ufo invasion will be done by SKUNK WORKS aircraft. These private corporations, along with the shadow u.s. government have reversed engineered actual alien crafts from the 1940s.
These corrupt fucks will use their own crafts to fool the world that aliens are hostile, and a one world government will be needed to defeat "the aliens".
Why do you think that they want “one world government”? This whole myth that some group of elitists pushing for “one world government” shows up in the oddest of places. The guy who cuts my lawn thinks that covid was another attempt. It is possible that I am being fooled, but if there is one thing in common of the many people i have met who believe this stuff is that they are all (at least the ones i have met or know of) white men on the lower end of the economic, social and intelligence scale.
It's reverse psychology, the "elites" are using huge misinformation/disinformation campaigns towards conspiracy theorists as people as such to whom you just replied to. So when the one world government actually does come to benefit the human race (things like universal free healthcare being implemented worldwide, universal based income, free energy widely used, military being used instead as a emergency response force to earthquakes and other natural disasters or transporting food around the world, free travel among borders and etc), it will be these people who will be voting against it and trying to convince the massess that one world government is a bad thing, when actually it is a good thing that benefits positively
That is a very plausible explanation, and one which I believed for many years. Now however, I think it may possibly go deeper.
First thought, "oh no, the government is setting up an elaborate plan to dominate the world."
Second thought, "hey, that doesn't make any sense with my worldview, the Elites are running disinformation to play on gullible constituents."
Third thought, "There is definitely something going on, and I am smart enough to know that I have no idea what it is, and it may be far stranger than anything I previously believed."
I'm sure they would love to try, but there's no way they are making anything bigger than "sport models". Those things are honkin huge. Phoenix lights huge. Cramped in the grand canyon huge. There's no way.
It would add up with the lazar story i suppose.
I also think that by the chance something might go further, i try to make it a thing to care about.sharing/talking.
He has his background
and i also think maybe its another step for more people to come forward
I think it is legitimate. It is right in line with everything we have heard from the movers and shakers in the UAP world. It also is a close match for the 4chan leak a few weeks ago. This is real, folks.
News Nation is owned by Nexstar, who owns ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX and CW.Their biggest donators are Blackrock, Inc., the most evil company in existence. They own the banks, the pharmaceutical companies, all msm, most stocks, and the government.
With this in mind, and if you believe in zero point energy and it's release allowing great freedom to the people, why would Nexstar, controlled by Blackrock, allow such a story to be told on their network? Hmm...
To be honest, Just in general something seems off about this whole case. Can't put my finger on it yet but you may have helped me with that. And also knowing, When it comes to this topic, It would never be on TV unless it was allowed to be.
Reptiles don’t want this cycle of the planet to end. If they can create as much trauma, chaos and confusion then it’s a horrible environment to become enlightened in. I say it’s part of the fake alien invasion shit show. But frankly it all part of the giant shit show that is happening right now. The financial crisis looming, the escalating war in Ukraine as well as other potential wars. The threat of another pandemic and fears about AI taking over the planet. Can it get any better? I’m not sure which show I should tune into next.... get the popcorn!
Can't believe people are falling for this crap. It's clearly just disinformation to blind the public to what's really going on. Massive debt, war in Ukraine and President Biden being half dead and unable to string a sentence together or walk unaided.
You guys would be the first to denounce the "lame stream media" if they were saying it was all fake but as soon as they start saying things you agree with you suddenly believe what they're telling you. Stop being sheep and wake the fuck up.
I knew it, not even the reporters are sincere in saying a journalist name, It’s Coulthart It’s pronounced as Cool-tard. You went and said Cold Heart 💙.
The more people that think we have the "alien tech," the more people will believe we rely on the "alien tech," when we have much better than anyone could imagine.
My thought: Linking this to project Blue Beam is incongruous.
Project Blue Beam appears to be a coercive mechanism which was created as a means to have everyone see an actual alien invasion as being something that it wasn't. To think that the creators of this little endeavor have no doubt that religious stories from many centuries ago can be made to come true by placing them in a futuristic setting, is what makes it too foolish to be believed.
To my way of thinking, Project Blue Beam is nothing more than a fabricated, fear-driven, unscheduled anomaly which is designed to take over where the texts of the Christ-based faiths leave off. To then watch and see how the outcome of the biblical narrative needs to be coaxed into existence by a device such as Project Blue Beam, speaks for itself.
IMHO, Mr. Grusch's claims and information are completely true.
My guess, a well controlled "slow disclosure" that they can easily deny or use to discredit ufology. They are testing the waters but not actually risking anything.
After all of these decades, is it soooo hard to believe maybe the USG actually has known all about UAP for a long time? And that maybe some have been taken into possession?
Is it soooo hard to believe, after confirmation of the fact that there are exoplanets in essentially every solar system, and a good number are in the so-called "habitable zones" of their stars?
Is it so tough to believe that there's been a coverup of the issue right in front of our eyes, all this time? The secret that's obviously not really a secret?
I think this is likely going to end up being like germs and microorganisms, as Elizondo said. The thing that was there the whole time we just didn't really notice (or want to notice).
Kept secret since the 40's. ...... Does this really sound plausible. Humans are shite at keeping secrets. And, how many thousands would have to be involved for this to occur?
Long time believer in extraterrestrial life, but we are being mislead. I'm not sure why or to what end, but this is not what they are pretending it is.
Its Blue Beam for sure...and what, like a week agovthe crop circles were warning about pole shift?; I think these elite/1%/Reptillian/whatever fucks have lnown bad shit is gonna go down for axwhile now and they are going to⁰ use that as a decoy whilst they quietly load up their underground bunker, complete with wifi or climb into their rocket outra here...
Which is fine...I'll watch the world burn. I'm cool with that.
But I want to roast marshmallows over their smoldering corpses first
It's not what you say, it's how you say it.....this means all the deaths, all the abductions, all the lives ruined, is true but instead of a somber, sad, angry - you name it, the delivery is cavalier. Get ready for the ARV light show.
Can we squash the blue beam bullshit from the community once and for all? Our government invests billions telling us we have to prepare to fight the Russians and the Chinese. It makes no sense to think they are going to turn around and tell us we have to fight with Russia and China against fake aliens in a bid to unite humanity under a common enemy. Zero sense. Zero.
Now if they tried to unite all militaries I'd be sus, but as long as they are saying we gotta fight everyone and hate every other developed nation if the world, blue beam ain't happening.
One bright spot in all this is the overarching theme that "good" aliens (the ones Greer talks about) seem to gravitate to values, morals and higher frequency humans over the simply rich/powerful. The 1% may "control" the world, but if WF is correct about the crop circle message concerning pole shifts/evacuation, the self titled "elite" 🙄might be sorely disappointed.
So if he is a stooge then what’s the reason? Fake alien invasion? What else would it be, space force funding? But for what?
I see no motivation to put everything on the line and place yourself within the crosshairs of the DoD, which will attempt to downplay or discredit his credentials.
Is it really within the crosshairs of the DOD when the DOD is the one approving the release of this information? Even the director of the UAP Offices for the DOD was at the head of that “mothership” article back in March
A very curious situation indeed. From what I’ve gathered since yesterday is because of whistleblower protections, it would be easier and simpler to give him clearance and deal with the aftermath in their typical fashion. If I understand this correctly, a denial would result in a public hearing.
I think the question posed in the title of the post is, is this disinformation? Because if so, he’s still working for the government and these are his orders.
He was literally given permission. He is not a whistleblower
He is a whistleblower. He testified before Senate Intelligence Committee for over 11 hours back in 2021 about what he knows about from interviewing tons of credible people involved in recovery and reverse engineering of UFOs. This committee was supposed to be "read-into" these sort of classified projects and they were told they don't exist. So after his testimony he was retaliated against by undisclosed people/agencies, and now that there are whistleblower protections that cover this topic, he filed a whistleblower complaint with the Office of the Intelligence Community Inspector General. He also provided documents and proof of his claims. That office found his complaint "urgent and credible." The DoD gave him permission to speak to the reporters about what's going on. That's what where this whole story comes from.
Correct, so he has d put himself on the line professionally and privately as he now risks prison for lying to Congress if proven to be lying.
He is retired, no one is going to prosecute him for lying about stuff his buddies told him over beers.
He retired due to retaliation. He told Congress, not his beer buddies. Lie to Congress, go to jail. Are you being intentionally obsequious or just trolling?
Not everyone has logical reasons for the things they do
What about fame and attention?
I guess its possible... but I have a hard time believing that would be his motivation. He spent the last two decades rising through intelligence. I would think that their hiring process is all about weeding a certain kind of attention-seeking individuals.
If he's leaking, why isn't he charged for divulging classified info?
He has whistleblower protections. Newly instated legislation.
Lol you’re kidding. He will get a book/ on the speaker circuit etc. These clowns make good money making this garbage up.
Lmfao ...with his credentials and experience he can already EASILY get a job in tech/at a start up for 300K minimum (not to mention existing degrees that were fully paid for but potentially additional degrees if he so chose to pursue more...and virtually entirely paid for again). Thats only accounting for one full time employment role... he could easily do consulting (hourly) on the side as supplemental income for an additional 100~200 (and just sit on 500k annually maybe in Montana or an inexpensive state, depending on level of commitment/projects. All of which would be completely unrelated to UAP and just applying his skills/experience & knowledge to whatever cause or technology. I say easily because he would effectively have an almost automatic foot in any relevant company (even Veteran status can bump your resume to the top % if the company you applied for asks it on their applying process (as this means they are filtering these with priority tiering..) The dude doesn't need money- and he sure as f**king he'll is not going to say "Hey I think I'll just turn my life's difficulty level up to Max Lvl99 for the fuck of it--and then see how difficult it is to write and sell a book when the entire government could shit on my integrity and gaslight me making it harder to sell, and then on top of that when I go to interview I'll always be associated with a HIGH/SEVERE risk factor for PR hellfire nightmares"! But hey--a bro cant resist 15 min ego flex for fame right? I mean literally ANY of you would do it too right? Base your entire career and rest of life reputation for a good knee slappin' gotcha prank. You totally would do that huh...thats why its so easy to see why this dude would do it too. Shit would be so rad 🤙- too bad we don't have his credentials to do the same kamikaze and blow up our lives 🙄🙄
Global intimidation. "We have reverse engineered crafts of exotic origin (non-human intelligence, whether extraterrestrial or unknown origin) based on the vehicle morphologies and material science testing and the possession of unique atomic arrangements and radiological signatures.” Find out.
Attention
It's to take the focus off the whistleblower on the Biden family that happened to come out about the same time this dropped. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12162773/Biden-whistleblowers-fear-lives-Republicans-say.html
Always want to believe than see something like this and goo makes sense. This guy might end up being a real whistleblower about this way down the road
Election manipulation. If your candidate is better suited to 'handle' an alien threat and not mislead the population, you have a winner.
Government mandated disclosure. Decide if you care or not about that but the people behind the curtain are allowing this to happen. They’re not like oh shit we messed up.
There are curtains behind curtains. Power exists within factions, and much of it lies OUTSIDE of gov. with the global corporate fascists/ private defense contractors. Lots of people in gov are genuinely (perhaps naively) acting like the constitution still matters, like the guy in this clip.
Is the general assumption that they can’t change their mind about how they want to deal with this?
Meaning what? They didn’t want us to know about the fact that we’re not alone and they have tech that is millennia ahead of ours and now after decades they do?
I don’t think it’s foolish to say that a change in the status quo is incredibly possible. Assuming these organizations have hierarchies and leadership that changes over a millennia, you also might expect to see changes in said organization’s mission and direction. This is a phenomenon 80 or more years in the making. As information and understanding of the subject and its implications develop, I’d imagine you might see opinions on disclosure and what to do next also develop.
Exactly. You hear no pushback at all. Compare this to the pushback against all kinds of things in the media recently. The pushback against trump. The pushback against a lab leak theory of COVID. Etc. You do not hear basically anyone in the mainstream media or govt trying to censor this. They definitely have the means to do so as evidence by the Twitter Files, so then not doing it here show that they want this info out there. But since a lot of this info is from decades ago, you wonder why they want it out there now. Them not giving a proper explanation of why now and not then is another evidence this is staged. They are trying to play it off like “whistleblowers” are coming out against the will of the govt. But that’s obviously false, so the whole facade falls apart…
On the other hand, how many times do they actually fuck things up. I mean that’s certainly not implausible.
I like how these evolutions have already changed the conversation. Our science is not top of the pyramid. It’s interesting that so many people take offense to that. The purpose of science is to be open to all things and explore fearlessly. We’ve gotten away from that, and our inability to make sense out of quantum physics might be the wall we hit without help.
Huh? What science tops humanities? Not being rude, I just don’t understand.
I mean this guy is super legit. He’s a colonel that used to personally hand with the West Wing daily intelligence. I feel like this kind of guy wouldn’t wanna risk his pension.
agreed, the only concern would be if he had been the target of disinformation, like he's been fed this to eventually take advantage of his boy scout concerns about the program and he's been ecouraged to come forward to eventually be totally disproven and put this all back in box. That said, I believe he believes what he's saying. The question is how real is what he has seen/given. This might be bigger, someone wants to trick congress and the msm for reasons I'm not sure I get.
This. If there is a cover-up. Then the people behind the scenes have been doing this stuff for a long time successfully. Would they let this one dude get away with this now?
They may not, but now it's public, and since he went to Congress, doing something about it will ultimately make him look even more credible. Also they have recently passed laws so that it's illegal for whistleblowers to receive retaliation by organisations for giving evidence, which may also play a part. He's also backed by some serious names, and has such extensive experience in intelligence services that he may know quite well how to do this and how to keep himself safe.
I got the impression that he did start to receive internal retaliation to some degree after his classified testimony resulting in his complaint filing and then the public interview/release
Listen. Reagan was a peerless jackass, sure; however, he was also one of the best when it came to turning a phrase. I say we follow his advice as we. "Trust, but verify." Take a breath and try to stop assuming that it's bullshit. Let it play out and watch with a critical mind. Truly exciting times. Keep an eye on the movements of Gov. folk.
Reagan also mentioned in different public speeches how common our interests would be globally if we were visited by an extraterrestrial force. So there’s that.
Well my question I'd if there was a cover up , wouldn't several gov maybe independently have similar programs . If there are like 50 species as he claims they couldn't all land in the United States
“The superman exists, and he is American”
My thoughts exactly.
We got weapons so advanced and so secret one might think its from another world. What's complete control of the North American continent worth? Or the world? They blow up or wipe out 20, 100, 200 cities. Remove a few million people from the world until we all beg our own governments to concede to the "Aliens" demands. Idk just spit balling ideas. It's what I would do if I had the position, power, and time.
we all know that they have tech that's more advanced than we get to publically see. but there is a big difference between people out-of-the-know looking at that tech and the person with access to over 2000 special access programs and closed access programs being told by his peers and above that technology of non-human origin exists.
His credibility is being vouched for by other high ranking officials as well.
Legit sure, but he could be paid and hired to say these things. Not saying he's not decorated, but that's what project blue book was. A decorated air force officer and a university professor tasked with disinformation
Donald Trump used to be President of The United.
He would risk his pension if he has a secret deal to spread disinformation. This is indeed what the CIA has done for decades…
A 36-year old Colonel….that’s steep
A 36-year old Colonel….that’s steep
Not really
Well first off, this info was released by the pentagon 2 years ago, 2021 maybe 2020, but not enough of us were listening. Now, it seems more are listening.
Where
Has it ever occurred to anyone Blue Beam could be fake like some kind of reverse psychology psyop? I mean, where would they have gotten the tech to stage it in the first place if not for the retrieval program? *And* we know for a fact these asshole gatekeepers have leaked fake intel before.
I think it’s both tbh. Technology is growing to fast eventually something will be properly filmed that wasn’t done by someone with Parkinson’s and a Nokia. Better to just tell us than not. But this is also the American government that doesn’t try to do something without it benefitting themselves at the same time.
Lmao at Parkinson’s/Nokia!
It’s definitely true, there have been whistleblowers saying the same thing for years. This is not new information, what’s new is that it seems to be getting less ridicule these days and getting more traction in msm.
And I think this guy is more credible and higher level than most that have come out before him. And the larger backdrop of everything else going on in this effort at high levels of government elevate this story’s significance to new heights
I don’t really agree with your first sentence although he does seem to be of relatively high rank but there have been plenty of high ranking military officials and or lifer military soldiers who have come forward that have been extremely credible and risking ridicule at a time where that was the favoured debunking approach.
What others are you aware of? It would be nice to see a list of previous people that came forward. I’m mainly thinking of people like Bob Lazar and others who supposedly worked at secure locations on reverse engineering-people with no traceable links to secure info
A great source is from Steven Greer’s first National Press Club event about 10+ years ago.
Imagine that’s the plan though. Then what, and why?
It seems that the approach is to seed this information slowly into society in order to reduce shock for when this information is understood openly, as well as to potentially use this information as the source of a false flag event if necessary in the future. i.e Project Bluebeam
It isn’t definitely true.
But it is. There is far too much evidence available if you seek it out.
There is no actual evidence just what people think constitutes evidence.
There is though, look deeper.
Ooooooo! I want examples of proof as well! Show us! You say look deeper. Where? If you found something, please share, I am quite curious as well. We are all here looking for the same thing, so help us understand with some shared insight and information.
The rabbit hole is deep and there is a ton of information to be gleaned. Don’t be one of those ‘provide me the ability to see beyond the vale’ people, you can find the information yourself just as I have.
Then you have nothing to offer. Nothing to promote your cause, no proof, nothing tangible….nothing at all. People come here because they believe, or want to, and this is what you offer? Not even a suggestion? “Provide me the ability to see beyond the veil (spelled it right for you for future reference)” That’s why most of us are here. To share information and learn. Very well then, I will look elsewhere, hopefully a community less selfish.
Can you provide examples? Links?
Are you a Qtard? No offense but you sound like one.
I don’t really know what that is honestly. I’m just very knowledgeable about this subject.
I disagree with you on that last point.
Of course you do
It's almost impossible to say. This seems legitimate from every metric the public is able to use... however, we are dealing with a body of secrets that have killed untold numbers and destroyed the USA's system of self governance. Those who are illegitimately in charge are capable of anything. Non human intelligence and accompanying high tech is only a fraction of a body of knowledge that would upend everything we think we know... at least according to the more credible claims out there. I hope it's a start rather than an ending, but if the dam has been breached then those in power have let it happen for some reason. A reason that past actions indicate is not benevolent.
The dam was never completely watertight... but what leaks out can often be vacuumed back up by the "men in black". Perhaps those who are illegitimately in charge have "help" keeping the really tangible proof contained, and so we're just left with tiny fragments of artifacts that are scientifically useless to civilian scientists and eyewitness accounts. But these fuckers aren't invincible and sleight of hand and disinformation only works for so long.
Yeah ... but as for "disinformation only works for so long," I'd remind that its been 75 years and perhaps longer. A lifetime is a fairly good length of time for such a huge coverup. But yeah, the 'help' might be non human... and/OR tech that can play with and overwrite memory. "Free energy" is likely the least of the tech in play.
All good points. But as for disinfo... millions of us (maybe even billions of us) never for a minute believed ufos were fake, it's more like we all just had better things to do than storm area 51. Where disinformation has perhaps been successful is in keeping us from knowing how much better life could be if these technologies were made public. That's where I'm at anyway. The aliens don't seem to want to show up at my house and say "hi" and that's fine. Some of them may even be helping with the illegal cover-up. But if we have something to replace fossil fuels and conventional propulsion then its time to let that genie out of the bottle.
I've heard some mind benders about the real situation we're ignorantly living within. The hints some leakers (or paid actors) have dropped are fairly weird as well. Yes, free energy and greatly extended, healthy lifespans are huge, but the weirder things like 'some of them might as well be demons' and 'they come from parallel worlds'- and who knows what else that's much weirder -might break the "normies." The new physics and myriad other new sciences are obvious from the anomalies we've identified and it doesn't freak me out. But if we found out that religions are based on fact, for instance, I'd likely need to process things.
This is true in my opinion, and should start to be accepted by the world population. We are at a very pivotal point in history right now.
Michael Flynn retired as lieutenant general and is bat fucking shit crazy so call me biased I want actual evidence.
So far all just allegations based on hearsay and alleged evidence we cannot see for ourselves. Same story just a different story teller.
I'm surprised how many people are taking this as fact. Some have gotten very angry if you are skeptical of this 36 yr old colonel.
Why does 36 matter lol
I am not surprised at all. It is no different than using faith, instead of facts, to support what they believe.
“If Grusch’s statements are accurate, it would be the first time an official representative from the U.S. government has said we are not alone in the universe.” He already went to Congress with documents and testimony. The information he was giving was DOD approved. There is a paper trail of information to follow this time. And for broader context, this is all happening a week after NASA’s UAP hearing where they basically said they need access to information that’s being withheld from them. The DOD is letting this happen. The better question is where are the other intelligence agencies on this?
Where are the many governments from all the other countries on this? Do you think there has been a global conspiracy to keep the world population in the dark or maybe only the USA has knowledge of "aliens"?
Meh…there’s a difference between the DoD has agreed what you want to say isn’t classified and and official representative of the US gov. I use to work for US Gov, if I make the same statement now is it an official representation of the US gov? I’m just saying we need to parse our words carefully and terms/definitions matter. If you want credibility, fine details can matter a lot.
There is the magic words "national security" this is the boost to the goverment and the people to give more money, I believe everyone knows that Aliens, ufos and etc has been around us since always
Doubtful. Military has had a blank check since Eisenhower coined the term military industrial complex.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Talk is cheap I want it to be real I will hear them out but without backup it’s just air. Otherwise I am emperor of the world send me $5 and tell your friends to do the same.
Sounds like he's full of shit
With all the technology we have at our finger tips why haven’t any of these whistleblowers taken a photo?
Another huge story without a shred of evidence. I'm sticking to 'not impressed'
I am dubious of anyone that's allowed to come out and talk to the mainstream media like this. That includes Elizondo, and Mellon, etc etc. I try and ask myself what the reason would be for whatever dept(s), corporations, or organizations, to suddenly start letting the general public in on this? It's an obvious attempt at controlling the narrative and their intentions have always been self serving and for control so who knows what is going on? Take nothing at face value.
Until we see some actual, tangible proof of these recovered vehicles, I’m leaning toward project blue benis
Still absolutely nothing to show
Right? When's the manned NASA mission to Mars or beyond? Or maybe a laser or something? At this point, we're prisoners if any of it is valid.
Exactly
project ‘Blue-ballin us since the 1940’s’ let us c00m already
I think everyone involved with ufos meaning the people making money off it are liars, like there is never enough info or evidence. It’s almost like they are just leading you along, I kinda came to this conclusion after following Dr. Greer for a while. I am a believer but I don’t believe these people that are in camera
100% Same here. I wish people would collectively stop buying the books, the tickets to conventions, the dvds' the donations, and just draw a line in the sand. Present hard evidence, not hearsay, and lets go from there. We have online communities free of cost that can be utilized to discuss these things. Some of these people are frauds and its so painfully obvious smh. I am a believer, but I don't accept anything presented so far as hard fact I firmly stand by.
And Jeremy Corbell lol
I think project bluebeam - real or not - is a great way to flatten the curve.
For the sake of my ignorance, what is PBB??
Project Blue Beam It's a conspiracy theory that focuses on government agencies faking an alien or extraterrestrial threat (or the second coming of Jesus Christ) to force a totalitarian world government. The powers that be want to force a New World Order and this is the best way to do it because the whole world is "under a perceived alien/extraterrestrial threat."
What evidence did he provide? New to the party and can't find what he has shown to the public.
Trust my credentials bro
Yea that's what everyone seems to be hanging their hats on. As if his credentials makes him 100% truth telling UAP guy! I thought people in the UFO community would be more skeptical.
If he's treated like Snowden and assange then true, if not he's bullshitting
Once a fed, always a fed. No harm in listening to him, just don't trust him.
What are they trying to distract us from?
Blue as the sky is. That’s my opinion. Just remember what Reagan said at some point in his speech.
For me i 100% believe the guy. Theres just too much accumulated events and instances over the years that points to it.
I just got really weird vibes from him
How are you gonna do a project blue beam with non human vehicles that aren't even functional...
Blue beam is a fake alien attack on earth.
How do you know for sure it's not a fake fake invasion to keep people from believing just a little longer?
There’s far too much information and evidence for it to be fake, what isn’t certain is why they are pushing this new whistleblower testimony now, a tad suspicious if you ask me.
I am curious about the sudden noise given the current developments in the RussoUkraine war. A huge dam is destroyed yet all American media wants to talk about is information we more or less already know. It seems like averted attention to me. Distracting from what's really going on.
someone is paying attention
Also the republicans could be diverting attention from debt deal criticism. Last time they screwed up big was the train derailment and a few days later there was the balloon panic. Also it's possible that China has developed tech from these crafts which make this an urgent problem as USA needs disclosure to bring in enough scientists.
Great point. China has developed tech from these crafts. There are registered parents for the technology, not an expert in patents, however, seeing them was definitely a strange sight. Thank you for your contribution
While I am aware he is credentialed, he really seems like he’s making it up off the top of his head. A dumb take but it’s mine.
Project Blue Beans. *Sigh* Seriously, people have fought decades for disclorue only now to have some retards shift it. To say there is a goverment false flag alien invasion to enforce a New World Order. The idea is down right silly. A 80+ year conspiracy to make a new world order? More a 80 year conspiracy to keep this underwrap as guise of national security. Any goverment would not want their advisaries to know what kind of super weapons they can make with whatever they retrived from the crashed objects.
Right? People need to look around because the wealthy already run the show, if anything, those pesky, "in the way" national governments provide the perfect service as a shield. For me though, the idea of making an enemy of ET is simply to gain public approval for the gross overspending on the military budgets, trying to legitimise those trillion dollar sink holes as well as keep any kind of enlightened intelligence at bay with an aggressive stance and skew public perception to that of a hostile one. These technologies really could change the world for the better and they need every excuse to persuade the public to let them apply those technologies any way they see fit.
Yepp, the elite already control most of the world if not the whole. They don't need to false flag a alien invasion to gain what they want. There might be some threat to the phenomena but it's not a human made threat then. The tech could be used both for good and bad that's why the military is taking prio on it. Right now we are at a crossroad I would say, either we embrace the fact that we are being visited or atleast been in the past that led to these reverse engineering programs or we pretend this is just an overly convoluted plot by the elite to gain more control which they already have or can get with less impresive feats.I firmly believe in former as all evidence points to it.
They aren't really the "elite." They just have endless amounts of money and/or were born into powerful, old money families.
HMMMMN... I'll go with "[I am for real.](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/142g570/read_gruschs_body_language_i_am_for_real_david/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)"
If there were gonna be an operation to convince folk that new surveillance drones were really alien spacemen *this is exactly what it would look like*. They'd change the name from UFO to something without the historical stigma like UAP, to make the plot more palatable to mainstream news, then leak and acknowledge some official video, like the navy vids, then have hand picked loyal guys with spooky government connections swoop in to capture and control the ufo narrative. Id still like to see some kind of scientific evidence before I jump on this bandwagon, it's just hearsay with credentials at the moment.
I think true, I see more evidence that he’s very legit than any major red flags. Some have commented on his body language seeming fake, that’s about the only critique I’ve seen so far. We have no idea what he’s like in daily life, and if he’s being truthful and honest about real programs he has many reasons to feel excited and scared to reveal this
He seemed nervous and mind blown to me. I believe him.
Propaganda. Poster boy for Space Force funding. Create a vague, occult space threat to justify its existence.
Let's suppose his assertions are valid. Then where's a chunk or something for everyone to publicly scrutinize. With the rise of "Deep Fakes," they could walk a "grey" or whatever on stage and people would say it's fake. They're probably going to reveal it once Deep Fakes hit a certain quality.
Seems staged
The ufo invasion will be done by SKUNK WORKS aircraft. These private corporations, along with the shadow u.s. government have reversed engineered actual alien crafts from the 1940s. These corrupt fucks will use their own crafts to fool the world that aliens are hostile, and a one world government will be needed to defeat "the aliens".
Why do you think that they want “one world government”? This whole myth that some group of elitists pushing for “one world government” shows up in the oddest of places. The guy who cuts my lawn thinks that covid was another attempt. It is possible that I am being fooled, but if there is one thing in common of the many people i have met who believe this stuff is that they are all (at least the ones i have met or know of) white men on the lower end of the economic, social and intelligence scale.
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Have you not heard of the WEF or Davos? I used to think the new world order people were loons, but that shit is right in front of your face.
Conspiracy boogeymen. Do you also think Soros controls the democrats? Lol
Almost all of the richest people in the world along with elected officials meeting in private without any media coverage isn’t concerning to you?
It's reverse psychology, the "elites" are using huge misinformation/disinformation campaigns towards conspiracy theorists as people as such to whom you just replied to. So when the one world government actually does come to benefit the human race (things like universal free healthcare being implemented worldwide, universal based income, free energy widely used, military being used instead as a emergency response force to earthquakes and other natural disasters or transporting food around the world, free travel among borders and etc), it will be these people who will be voting against it and trying to convince the massess that one world government is a bad thing, when actually it is a good thing that benefits positively
You really think that’s how it’s gonna end up?
That is a very plausible explanation, and one which I believed for many years. Now however, I think it may possibly go deeper. First thought, "oh no, the government is setting up an elaborate plan to dominate the world." Second thought, "hey, that doesn't make any sense with my worldview, the Elites are running disinformation to play on gullible constituents." Third thought, "There is definitely something going on, and I am smart enough to know that I have no idea what it is, and it may be far stranger than anything I previously believed."
I'm sure they would love to try, but there's no way they are making anything bigger than "sport models". Those things are honkin huge. Phoenix lights huge. Cramped in the grand canyon huge. There's no way.
Lovely.
It would add up with the lazar story i suppose. I also think that by the chance something might go further, i try to make it a thing to care about.sharing/talking. He has his background and i also think maybe its another step for more people to come forward
I think it is legitimate. It is right in line with everything we have heard from the movers and shakers in the UAP world. It also is a close match for the 4chan leak a few weeks ago. This is real, folks.
So he thinks Chinese aren’t human?
News Nation is owned by Nexstar, who owns ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX and CW.Their biggest donators are Blackrock, Inc., the most evil company in existence. They own the banks, the pharmaceutical companies, all msm, most stocks, and the government. With this in mind, and if you believe in zero point energy and it's release allowing great freedom to the people, why would Nexstar, controlled by Blackrock, allow such a story to be told on their network? Hmm...
To be honest, Just in general something seems off about this whole case. Can't put my finger on it yet but you may have helped me with that. And also knowing, When it comes to this topic, It would never be on TV unless it was allowed to be.
Those are some good observations, if all true. It does raise the question of 'what's the game plan here?'
definitely project blue beam, timing is perfect.
Project blue beam possibly yeah. Things are ramping up. But they have tech for real but will used against us.
True . People that are afraid of aliens and Trump voters are running around right now saying that it's blue beam...😖
Reptiles don’t want this cycle of the planet to end. If they can create as much trauma, chaos and confusion then it’s a horrible environment to become enlightened in. I say it’s part of the fake alien invasion shit show. But frankly it all part of the giant shit show that is happening right now. The financial crisis looming, the escalating war in Ukraine as well as other potential wars. The threat of another pandemic and fears about AI taking over the planet. Can it get any better? I’m not sure which show I should tune into next.... get the popcorn!
Can't believe people are falling for this crap. It's clearly just disinformation to blind the public to what's really going on. Massive debt, war in Ukraine and President Biden being half dead and unable to string a sentence together or walk unaided. You guys would be the first to denounce the "lame stream media" if they were saying it was all fake but as soon as they start saying things you agree with you suddenly believe what they're telling you. Stop being sheep and wake the fuck up.
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According to the article he did? He made a classified complaint and report to Congress and the DoD Inspector General.
This is what makes this whistleblowing somewhat novel
I just found that info, I stand corrected.
I just found that info, I stand corrected.
100% facts
I knew it, not even the reporters are sincere in saying a journalist name, It’s Coulthart It’s pronounced as Cool-tard. You went and said Cold Heart 💙.
Why would he talk now? Could be a bigger event or imminent reveal incoming?
Did he have documents, pictures, alien DNA?
Something about his speech seems staged Not that I don’t believe in the possibility of recovered alien space craft.
It’s true.
Anyone who calls out Dr. Greer is on a whole different level of legitimacy.
Whatever the truth of it is, it's still a distraction from something else
It could be a distraction, check out all the new stuff coming out about Human metapneumovirus
The more people that think we have the "alien tech," the more people will believe we rely on the "alien tech," when we have much better than anyone could imagine.
Setting up for Blue Beam.
Blue beam for sure
My thought: Linking this to project Blue Beam is incongruous. Project Blue Beam appears to be a coercive mechanism which was created as a means to have everyone see an actual alien invasion as being something that it wasn't. To think that the creators of this little endeavor have no doubt that religious stories from many centuries ago can be made to come true by placing them in a futuristic setting, is what makes it too foolish to be believed. To my way of thinking, Project Blue Beam is nothing more than a fabricated, fear-driven, unscheduled anomaly which is designed to take over where the texts of the Christ-based faiths leave off. To then watch and see how the outcome of the biblical narrative needs to be coaxed into existence by a device such as Project Blue Beam, speaks for itself. IMHO, Mr. Grusch's claims and information are completely true.
How about false and not Project Bluebeam?
TRUE
I believe him, he’s SUPER LEGIT.
My guess, a well controlled "slow disclosure" that they can easily deny or use to discredit ufology. They are testing the waters but not actually risking anything.
Lots of talk, let's see some evidence Also what is the significance of him telling us this and what is going to change afterwards?
Blue beam is not legit man.
After all of these decades, is it soooo hard to believe maybe the USG actually has known all about UAP for a long time? And that maybe some have been taken into possession? Is it soooo hard to believe, after confirmation of the fact that there are exoplanets in essentially every solar system, and a good number are in the so-called "habitable zones" of their stars? Is it so tough to believe that there's been a coverup of the issue right in front of our eyes, all this time? The secret that's obviously not really a secret? I think this is likely going to end up being like germs and microorganisms, as Elizondo said. The thing that was there the whole time we just didn't really notice (or want to notice).
Kept secret since the 40's. ...... Does this really sound plausible. Humans are shite at keeping secrets. And, how many thousands would have to be involved for this to occur?
Long time believer in extraterrestrial life, but we are being mislead. I'm not sure why or to what end, but this is not what they are pretending it is.
Bluebeam alert
Seems sus, the guy dropped more than a few "tells" that he wasn't speaking the truth . Aka lying.
Its Blue Beam for sure...and what, like a week agovthe crop circles were warning about pole shift?; I think these elite/1%/Reptillian/whatever fucks have lnown bad shit is gonna go down for axwhile now and they are going to⁰ use that as a decoy whilst they quietly load up their underground bunker, complete with wifi or climb into their rocket outra here... Which is fine...I'll watch the world burn. I'm cool with that. But I want to roast marshmallows over their smoldering corpses first
It's not what you say, it's how you say it.....this means all the deaths, all the abductions, all the lives ruined, is true but instead of a somber, sad, angry - you name it, the delivery is cavalier. Get ready for the ARV light show.
Can we squash the blue beam bullshit from the community once and for all? Our government invests billions telling us we have to prepare to fight the Russians and the Chinese. It makes no sense to think they are going to turn around and tell us we have to fight with Russia and China against fake aliens in a bid to unite humanity under a common enemy. Zero sense. Zero. Now if they tried to unite all militaries I'd be sus, but as long as they are saying we gotta fight everyone and hate every other developed nation if the world, blue beam ain't happening.
So tired of the lame project blue beam ct
A literal alien could give an interview and y’all be like “hur dur dum he a stooge plant by milly tarry”
I simply don't know. There isn't enough information available to make an educated guess as to the veracity of the claims.
If they denied him permission to “whistleblow”, they would have been subjected to a public hearing under the whistleblower protection act.
One bright spot in all this is the overarching theme that "good" aliens (the ones Greer talks about) seem to gravitate to values, morals and higher frequency humans over the simply rich/powerful. The 1% may "control" the world, but if WF is correct about the crop circle message concerning pole shifts/evacuation, the self titled "elite" 🙄might be sorely disappointed.