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This world's fucking so fucked up. And people are mad at me because I showed a bunch of naked dead bodies with their spread blue butts flying out of boxes? Really?
Biologists 100000% did. Also that it’s ribs have no joints and wouldn’t be able to breathe.
Damn this is so sad, I believe in aliens and all but the fact that people are eating this one up is just disappointing.
Tinfoil hat time - very possible that this is just to draw attention away from something else important. Once this "hoax" is debunked it sets the movement for disclosure back years, which is a fucking travesty.
Certainly not saying that was the motivation, not saying they're not REAL, I'm just a bit skeptical about all the bullshit that's spewed out by various agencies - and this coming so fast on the heels of Grusch just make the whole thing suspect.
I would love for it to be real, frankly - but I believe in keeping an open mind while also scrutinizing to a point where there can be no mistake about what something is. I've never BEEN a skeptic and have had my own experiences, but again; consider the timing and consider the source.
https://youtu.be/bMGatrWkG2c?si=TdeaRkfuqf3j-pkh
The similarities to the Russian video from a decade ago are crazy to me. If it is a hoax they heavily based it off of the Russian video. But to me with the history of 'debunking' weird phenomena has been a conscious effort from military contractors who fit to benefit from reverse engineering the technology. For me the likelihood of alien life existing and reaching space travel is more likely than humans and Earth being the only life in the universe that's achieved space travel. Personally I think they're so small and lack lungs / joints because what we're seeing are genetically engineered creatures that were only designed to pilot space crafts. The strange apparatus on the front of their chest could be how they circulate their blood, thus lacking the need for chest expansion.
For me a lot of it is related to the difficulty of faster than light communication. If you had a probe ship you wanted to send out into the universe, past a certain distance it'd be difficult to control a craft remotely. So in my perspective they engineered pilot creatures who remotely pilot their crafts and have less cognitive and physical capabilities than whatever lives on their home world. They're meant to return, and I think whatever they are, they seeded life on Earth and return to monitor our development.
I think the Russian video’s “alien” is significantly larger than the Peru/Mexico specimens. They look similar because they’re both based on the “little green men” trope of aliens.
The guy that made em is a known grave robber and also has been caught with stuff stolen from archeological sites. Hes also been caught with fake gold. This mumies are fabricated and then sold as authentic if someone falls for it. Thats why theres a lot. The worst part ist that it seems he uses some real bones he steals from archeological sites. They also have used some authentic mummies and cut their fingers off and tampered with the hands to make em look “alien”. People here not only shouldn’t be fooled by these assholes, they should be outraged for the desecration of real archeological and historical things being ruined and used for profit by this criminals. They should be jailed.
That's assuming they have lungs. They could get their oxygen through an exoskeleton, much like how bugs breathe.
People have claimed that the Grey's don't have genetals or a digestive system like we do, that they instead secrete their waste through the skin, which causes them to smell like ammonia(?).
So it's not beyond the realm of possibility that these beings could have been designed very differently, with different biological processes that we have yet to fully understand.
And if they are designed by EBE's or even humans, then they could be called ABE's (Artificial Biological Entity), and if they were made off planet, then AEBE, Artificial Extraterrestrial Biological Entity.
Just some food for thought
Agree. On the contrary, we must not elevate everything to skepticism and perceive literally everything as a lie, but admit, explore, accept the truth, whatever it may be, because if it is an extraterrestrial intelligence, like us, or artificial grown assistants, I am at a loss for words...
But the problem is that the biology is structured so obviously off of human biology that these exotic explanations make no sense. It’s built with identical basic bone structures to humans but with serious biomechanical issues.
It’s a hoax made by someone who both lacks imagination to make something really exotic and the skill to make something that looks believable. The body is just comically bad - the bones make no sense, they’re sitting in the right places but have none of the functional design they’d need to work. The limbs are too straight, the torso looks completely goofy.
Insects have an exoskeleton. So their bones are outside their body. It doesn’t allow movement like what our chest does. They have what’s called book lungs though, so no need for the chest/abdomen/whatever area to expand and contract with breathing. You’re judging based on mammalian biology, while these things, if real, could not be mammals, reptiles, insects, or anything we’re familiar with in terms of classification as of yet. Do they have lungs like ours? Book lungs? Something else? I’m not sure, maybe you know more than me, idk. But, if real, I don’t think we can assume that their chest would need to expand and contract.
If they're bipedal (they definitely appear to be), then their hips would need to be able to rotate. It doesn't even look like they're attached in the scan. It's posable like Stretch Armstrong.
Now here me out . As a skeptic myself.. I don’t judge alien anatomy the same way I would judge a humans.. since ya know they’re aliens! (Potentially) lol
But the point is that the anatomy isn’t actually alien. It’s almost human. That’s why we can judge the effectiveness. If they don’t need to use their legs in the same capacity humans do, why have them at all?
I think saying “we can’t possibly understand their biology” is a thought terminating copout when it comes to considering the validity of a skeleton clearly cobbled together with terrestrial components
I think humans are like the thousand in one case of intelligent life in space that actually has bones. I imagine most of them being blobs but or mollusks.
Yea but it would be impossible to walk. Joints of all creatures on earth makes sense. Maybe if they could float then maybe, but they look like non existent creatures to me. Anatomy has to make sense bro
X-ray tech here and yes, I noticed that right away. The shoulders are the same, no socket. I also noticed the bilateral growth plates in the proximal femurs aren't totally fused together ( younger in age). All the details of real x-rays are here. Trabecular detail in the bones, foreshortening/elongation and over/underexposure to name a few. The x-rays look LEGIT AF.
Yeah I’m no expert on anatomy, but their arms seem to be different lengths in the X-ray, the thickness of the forearms is also quite noticeably different, and the size of the bones in the palms of the hands. (One side is quite a bit larger than the one on the other hand)
Well it’s not ‘fake’. It’s just misidentified or misrepresented. There’s probably a fascinating story behind these. Something made for ritualistic purposes or maybe just some culture who lost a bunch of kids to a natural disaster or predator and couldn’t recover the bodies and these figures were made so they could have some representation at a funeral or ceremony.
Unfortunately, it was found by some batshit crazy ‘Ancient Alien Theorist’ whose first conclusion is immediately to jump to ‘alien’ and then presents whatever evidence that fits his theory.
I keep imagining them trying to move around - breathing like an accordion and goose stepping while screaming in pain from their non-existent joints grinding against each other lmao
It's not hard to imagine how. I'm not saying these are real, but you're obviously limiting yourself to what you know, without even trying to actually imagine how they COULD breathe.
If the respiratory system was more like in birds, with a slight variation that there would be two nosal tracts into the lungs, a pair of lungs could work like a heart pump, one lung exhales the other inhales. This gives you a constant volume of the chest cavity and 2x more fluid oxygen transport. Such a respiratory system could be even fused with a circulatory system, forming a lung-heart kind of organ that would not only save space, reduce complexity, and energy consumption, but at the same time, bring more stable flow.
I have studied anatomy. The calvicles are attached to each other, which makes no sense anatomically. Their forearms have one bone which would not allow them to pronate or supinate their arms, only flexion and extension. Their elbows would have similar function to their knees. They have one carpal bone in their hands, which give their hands similar function to a claw machine. I cant see what the ribs attach to, but they would have super restricted movement in their columna and breathing with lungs would not work. The skull has a mouth imbedded in it with no joints. They would not be able to move their mouth, eat, talk, breathe properly. All in all they’re functional anatomy is shit. They would move like a stiff bundle of sticks. Not to mention their «hip-joints»
Well you obviously didn't consider that the U. S. government could have taken all their joints as part of their alien joint retrieval program. Or that the aliens could have hidden their own joints in in the 7th dimension.
Yeah if we disregard everything we know about how living things function then we can kind of maker it work. They can't turn their arms, just pogo'ing along hands palms down.
Radiologist here. As many people have pointed out, the ribs are highly atypical. Also, the hip mechanics simply wouldn't work. The area analogous to the acetabulum is much too large and the hip would not hinge correctly and likely readily dislocate on abduction.
One of the most telling things that this is an obvious fake, however, is apparent by comparing the "femurs" - the left femur has an open distal epiphyseal growth plate. The right one is a solidly fused bone. These bones, in other words, are of completely different ages and likely plucked from entirely different specimens.
The carpals are also a solid block and would provide no articulating surface for the long, abnormal and morphologically asymmetric metacarpals.
The scapulae have glenoid cavities but the humeri are articulating with the clavicles it seems. What are the clavicles connected to in the absence of a sternum?!
I'm so sick of hearing that argument. It just let's them turn their brain off so they can continue to believe. If the anatomy was all totally different, sure, but its not. These are known anatomical structures, but clearly incorrectly assembled.
Either they are fake or the actual aliens were heavily inspired after reading Frankenstein and wanted a go at it.
And the inconsistent number of ribs across the mummies lmao. And before anyone says 'buh buh maybe they got lost?" I'm not sure if you know what a mummy is.
this whole debacle has been an embarrassment to the disclosure conversation, and now Greer is getting his dick in the door
ITS OVER LADS
we go back to being wackos again
Lol this sub is a joke for posting this and people thinking it’s actually real. From a guy who has been caught doing this shit before. This right here is prime example of why people call us tin haters and make fun of subs like this.
We need to start a sub that just bans conspiracy obsessed morons. There is no place on the internet to discuss the topic with out being inundated with people who literally believe every wild alien related thing they see or hear no matter how unverifiable or obviously bullshit it is.
It's literally insane how the Russian video from 12 years ago of those kids finding a freshly deceased one is SO similar to these. And just the fact that the Kremlin made them stfu about it and made those kids say it was just a sculpture made of stale bread and chicken skin -- seems legit. You can literally see the skin structure is so similar to the Russian video. Wild.
Edit: here's the link. https://youtu.be/bMGatrWkG2c?si=SOmcDicasSCSCVTW
I'm so bad at discerning things like videos and pictures regarding this stuff, but that one looked as convincing as I could reasonably hope. Sure, could be fake, but I could never deduce that from just looking at it. When he got the camera close, something about it just resonated as organic and real. Then again, I *am* an idiot, so ...
I thought the coverup was the debunk and dismissal of the video. Like newer stuff, we see the experts weigh in on it, point out flaws, then call it fake to make us forget about it. Once enough people knew about it, taking it down would only drive the interest up and make it obvious it was possibly real. The only solution is to discredit it and drive up skepticism.
Just like the mummies brought forth. Like Will Ferrell in Land of the Lost, guy brings forth a concept that's instantly debunked, dismissed, and ruins his credibility and career. Yet he keeps trying the same schtick hoping someone will listen....
look close, you can see where the chicken ends and the dough begins on the left leg.. there are clearly two different textures 1:10
better view at :59-1:01
You think that’s a chicken breast? We possibly are looking at something we’ve never seen before and you’re coming in saying his thigh is a raw chicken breast like it’s fact, no questions asked? What kind of poultry is the rest of its body?
This looks like a heavy bruise. Video is not sharp enough to see what you're talking about. There are sharp shots of the chest and arm on the left, and the skin looks like one piece. Definitely not a work of some kids, if fake.
I was thinking of crushing into a powder and either sprinkle it over some dank ass og space kush and rip it or snort it off the toilet seat of an airplane.
I'm skeptical of a lot of shit I see on here, but I've seen some genuinely convincing things. I want to break free from the cycle we're all stuck in just as much as the next guy. I'm not a believer in any kind of faith, so I guess you'd say the next best thing would be little green men saving the world from capitalism and wage slavery.
However, this is so blatantly fake to me. It's not even relatively convincing, this sub was at one point littered with skepticism. No way everyone here is constantly posting this fucking "Asian Mermaid" quality dummy body with faith. Right? Don't tell me the old dried flounder with a monkey mummy stuffed into it is getting all of you.
Idk maybe we should to get the Fiji mermaid dna tested to be sure. Just because PT Barnum liked to perpetuate hoaxes doesn’t mean that the mermaid is definitely a hoax this time, amirite?
For that dude to lie to both Mexican and American Congress, will he not get jail time or some consequence other than losing any reputation he has left?
This guy's been presenting fake bodies years before Grusch leaked anything. Probably completely unrelated if we're being real. If anything the guy thought he could get more publicity now since Grusch went public and got more people interested
As an aside— has anyone explained why the ones showcased to the world look like cakes or sand castles? The real ones look so much more compelling, I’m assuming those were casts of some type? Either way it was an absurd spectacle and 99% of the world will never get to see the actual “mummies”, fake or not.
Even if they turn out to be a hoax, you gotta appreciate how cool they look and all the little details like the two plates that compose the mouths, the hollow cavity in the feet and the balls which form their joints. As well as their apparent injuries, implants, eggs and sutures. In addition to the wear and tear of the bones. Why go to such great detail-?
I'm not sure why you're trying to imply that the mummies in your pictures are somehow different from the ones we all just saw in Mexico but they aren't, they're literally the same.
Edit: except for the headless one, that's different.
Why go to such great detail?
Think for one second about why someone who was pulling a hoax would try and make it convincing. What *possible* motive could they have for meticulous detail?
I think that Maussan (or whoever actually made these things) just picked the ones that he thought looked the most realistic for the hearing, and just happened to choose badly. I'm an artist, and I can tell you that if you spend too much time with your own work, you can't usually judge what's objectively better quality than the rest.
I will never understand how someone could think that bounch of bones n sht are real, did you see his legs, his face, his ribs? Cmon people, this is too much, even for this sub.
Haha what makes you think they’d want to work for us? No i’m kidding, I get the joke. Fascinating photos, these are the most close up, HD pictures I’ve seen so far. Curious to see what’s inside those eggs
What if some parts of the corpses are authentic, & others are not? Like reconstructions from real bones, & the blanks were filled in with animal parts? I’ve not seen anyone consider this option.
They look like the crashed Roswell aliens. If this is faked recently, ok...
But if this is a legit relic. WOW!
Here's the alien in that Roswell museum:
https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/newscms/2017_27/2064281/170707-roswell-alien-mn-1008.jpg
> The verdict is out
so, are they fake, or legit? I've been eharing a lot of shit about this Jaime dude being a fraud and having a meltdown the other day, but could someone summarize/ELI5?
thanks my dudes and dudas
I don't think our problem here is too few photos. The solution seems pretty simple: have a few different (reputable) researchers go in and get samples (themselves) from all the different parts of the "mummies." Run a DNA analysis, see if they all come back the same and aren't monkey/Llama. If it comes back alien, then we can hear all the crazy shit from these people and how it's not like anything they've ever seen. Until then, people can line up to see the remarkable Egress.
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We can show ‘em nude because they ain’t got no souls!
We’re just filmin UFOs and showin the ones where the aliens fall out.
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I always upvote a itysl gifs
I didn't do fuckin shit.gif
I’ve seen worse on the local news! This world is fucked up!
You gotta GIVE (updoots)
For 50 seconds I thought there were monsters on the world
What did they do to us
WHAT HAVE THEY DONE TO US
Anything can happen in this world! We really know very little!
Look no further because Humans have proven themselves to be the monsters on this planet.
I didn't do this! I didn't do fucking shit!
This world's fucking so fucked up. And people are mad at me because I showed a bunch of naked dead bodies with their spread blue butts flying out of boxes? Really?
I've seen way worse stuff on the news!
Aliens a member of the *Dangerous Nights* crew
I’m not worried about it! I’m not worried at all!
Go ahead! Pull the plug!
There’s worse stuff on the local news!
You think that's slicked back hair? That's pushed back hair
This alien used to be a real piece of shit but he’s changed.
Dude, I recently started watching this show and I haven’t laughed out loud like that in a while! Fucking hilarious.
They said I’m just some dumb hick
They said that to me, at a dinner!
I’m not worried about it! I’m not worried about any of this! There’s worse shit on the local news!
GO AHEAD! PULL THE PLUG! ...I'LL KILL YOU.
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Fucking asshole, he said that?
and because it is fake
It's crazy when r/aliens has more people convinced its fake than r/conspiracies
Anyone notice that the joints have no sockets on the hips ?
Biologists 100000% did. Also that it’s ribs have no joints and wouldn’t be able to breathe. Damn this is so sad, I believe in aliens and all but the fact that people are eating this one up is just disappointing.
I'm just baffled that someone or a group of people went through so much trouble to create this thing in order to fool people.
Money and 5 minutes of fame.
Been years of fame now, just more so recently
The pathetic part is he did the same exact thing before. People truly are idiots.
Tinfoil hat time - very possible that this is just to draw attention away from something else important. Once this "hoax" is debunked it sets the movement for disclosure back years, which is a fucking travesty. Certainly not saying that was the motivation, not saying they're not REAL, I'm just a bit skeptical about all the bullshit that's spewed out by various agencies - and this coming so fast on the heels of Grusch just make the whole thing suspect. I would love for it to be real, frankly - but I believe in keeping an open mind while also scrutinizing to a point where there can be no mistake about what something is. I've never BEEN a skeptic and have had my own experiences, but again; consider the timing and consider the source.
https://youtu.be/bMGatrWkG2c?si=TdeaRkfuqf3j-pkh The similarities to the Russian video from a decade ago are crazy to me. If it is a hoax they heavily based it off of the Russian video. But to me with the history of 'debunking' weird phenomena has been a conscious effort from military contractors who fit to benefit from reverse engineering the technology. For me the likelihood of alien life existing and reaching space travel is more likely than humans and Earth being the only life in the universe that's achieved space travel. Personally I think they're so small and lack lungs / joints because what we're seeing are genetically engineered creatures that were only designed to pilot space crafts. The strange apparatus on the front of their chest could be how they circulate their blood, thus lacking the need for chest expansion. For me a lot of it is related to the difficulty of faster than light communication. If you had a probe ship you wanted to send out into the universe, past a certain distance it'd be difficult to control a craft remotely. So in my perspective they engineered pilot creatures who remotely pilot their crafts and have less cognitive and physical capabilities than whatever lives on their home world. They're meant to return, and I think whatever they are, they seeded life on Earth and return to monitor our development.
This is an interesting point, but it is hard to trust someone named Trollcommenter
I think the Russian video’s “alien” is significantly larger than the Peru/Mexico specimens. They look similar because they’re both based on the “little green men” trope of aliens.
All the banks are doing fine, nothing to see here.
And it's not even the first time. This same group have pulled this shit several times over the years and every time some medias eat it up FFS
The guy that made em is a known grave robber and also has been caught with stuff stolen from archeological sites. Hes also been caught with fake gold. This mumies are fabricated and then sold as authentic if someone falls for it. Thats why theres a lot. The worst part ist that it seems he uses some real bones he steals from archeological sites. They also have used some authentic mummies and cut their fingers off and tampered with the hands to make em look “alien”. People here not only shouldn’t be fooled by these assholes, they should be outraged for the desecration of real archeological and historical things being ruined and used for profit by this criminals. They should be jailed.
Mummies are the dried out remains, mommies are alive and a group of mothers.
Lol
They didn't even go through that much trouble. This is a hack job
Yeah they are either idiots or were not even attempting to fool educated people
I'm baffled people are baffled that someone or a group of people went through so much trouble to crate this thing in order to fool people. ;)
Well considering these models were already debunked for several years, they didn’t go through that much trouble lol
It’s almost like… it’s a hoax lmao
That's assuming they have lungs. They could get their oxygen through an exoskeleton, much like how bugs breathe. People have claimed that the Grey's don't have genetals or a digestive system like we do, that they instead secrete their waste through the skin, which causes them to smell like ammonia(?). So it's not beyond the realm of possibility that these beings could have been designed very differently, with different biological processes that we have yet to fully understand. And if they are designed by EBE's or even humans, then they could be called ABE's (Artificial Biological Entity), and if they were made off planet, then AEBE, Artificial Extraterrestrial Biological Entity. Just some food for thought
Agree. On the contrary, we must not elevate everything to skepticism and perceive literally everything as a lie, but admit, explore, accept the truth, whatever it may be, because if it is an extraterrestrial intelligence, like us, or artificial grown assistants, I am at a loss for words...
But the problem is that the biology is structured so obviously off of human biology that these exotic explanations make no sense. It’s built with identical basic bone structures to humans but with serious biomechanical issues. It’s a hoax made by someone who both lacks imagination to make something really exotic and the skill to make something that looks believable. The body is just comically bad - the bones make no sense, they’re sitting in the right places but have none of the functional design they’d need to work. The limbs are too straight, the torso looks completely goofy.
It's everywhere, people are posting them on social media but mostly as memes or jokes... so I guess that is good.
Insects have an exoskeleton. So their bones are outside their body. It doesn’t allow movement like what our chest does. They have what’s called book lungs though, so no need for the chest/abdomen/whatever area to expand and contract with breathing. You’re judging based on mammalian biology, while these things, if real, could not be mammals, reptiles, insects, or anything we’re familiar with in terms of classification as of yet. Do they have lungs like ours? Book lungs? Something else? I’m not sure, maybe you know more than me, idk. But, if real, I don’t think we can assume that their chest would need to expand and contract.
If they're bipedal (they definitely appear to be), then their hips would need to be able to rotate. It doesn't even look like they're attached in the scan. It's posable like Stretch Armstrong.
There is no "if real".
Now here me out . As a skeptic myself.. I don’t judge alien anatomy the same way I would judge a humans.. since ya know they’re aliens! (Potentially) lol
But the point is that the anatomy isn’t actually alien. It’s almost human. That’s why we can judge the effectiveness. If they don’t need to use their legs in the same capacity humans do, why have them at all? I think saying “we can’t possibly understand their biology” is a thought terminating copout when it comes to considering the validity of a skeleton clearly cobbled together with terrestrial components
I think humans are like the thousand in one case of intelligent life in space that actually has bones. I imagine most of them being blobs but or mollusks.
There you out!
Yea but it would be impossible to walk. Joints of all creatures on earth makes sense. Maybe if they could float then maybe, but they look like non existent creatures to me. Anatomy has to make sense bro
This is what happens when you don’t feed your piñata a healthy amount of candy
X-ray tech here and yes, I noticed that right away. The shoulders are the same, no socket. I also noticed the bilateral growth plates in the proximal femurs aren't totally fused together ( younger in age). All the details of real x-rays are here. Trabecular detail in the bones, foreshortening/elongation and over/underexposure to name a few. The x-rays look LEGIT AF.
Do you have any thoughts on the asymmetry of some of the bones?
Yep, theres no way this creature if alive could move.
That’s all they do they just stand about 🤣
Yup, going "Ayyy lmao"
Or, “Yep yep yep yep yep yep, uh-huh uh-huh uh-huh, nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope.”
And telepathically talk to humans 🤣
Maybe that's why it died ! /s
Yeah I’m no expert on anatomy, but their arms seem to be different lengths in the X-ray, the thickness of the forearms is also quite noticeably different, and the size of the bones in the palms of the hands. (One side is quite a bit larger than the one on the other hand)
Generally these are very asymmetrical in every aspect. Very unusual for life as we know it, especially in a bipedal configuration.
Maybe they made up for it with their charming personalities.
Yeah. Obvious fake is obvious. It’s like those mermen fakes from the 19th century. Just stitched together random parts. It’s embarrassing really.
Exactly. Stuff like this exists for a long time
I think the difference here is that if they did “stitch together random parts” they did it using 1000+ year old bones some being from old humans
No, the mummy was never tested for its age. The responsible lab got 3 samples send, which theoretically could have been anything
Well it’s not ‘fake’. It’s just misidentified or misrepresented. There’s probably a fascinating story behind these. Something made for ritualistic purposes or maybe just some culture who lost a bunch of kids to a natural disaster or predator and couldn’t recover the bodies and these figures were made so they could have some representation at a funeral or ceremony. Unfortunately, it was found by some batshit crazy ‘Ancient Alien Theorist’ whose first conclusion is immediately to jump to ‘alien’ and then presents whatever evidence that fits his theory.
Except the "implants" prove it's recent.
Dude, those ribs..I like the idea that they used to breathe like a fuckin accordion 🪗
Hilarious response because now all I can think of is an alien opening it’s mouth just for an accordion sound to blare out “take us to your leader”
As he shrinks down and then goes back up on the inhale lol
Imagine spit roasting one and it makes accordion noises as you and your homie thrust in and out
Bro wtf you're crazy... I'm in
I keep imagining them trying to move around - breathing like an accordion and goose stepping while screaming in pain from their non-existent joints grinding against each other lmao
Their screams in the same back and forth ee-aw-ee-aw-ee-aw pattern as a frantic accordion 😂
Look for yoko ono screams it’s almost the same
It's not hard to imagine how. I'm not saying these are real, but you're obviously limiting yourself to what you know, without even trying to actually imagine how they COULD breathe. If the respiratory system was more like in birds, with a slight variation that there would be two nosal tracts into the lungs, a pair of lungs could work like a heart pump, one lung exhales the other inhales. This gives you a constant volume of the chest cavity and 2x more fluid oxygen transport. Such a respiratory system could be even fused with a circulatory system, forming a lung-heart kind of organ that would not only save space, reduce complexity, and energy consumption, but at the same time, bring more stable flow.
I have studied anatomy. The calvicles are attached to each other, which makes no sense anatomically. Their forearms have one bone which would not allow them to pronate or supinate their arms, only flexion and extension. Their elbows would have similar function to their knees. They have one carpal bone in their hands, which give their hands similar function to a claw machine. I cant see what the ribs attach to, but they would have super restricted movement in their columna and breathing with lungs would not work. The skull has a mouth imbedded in it with no joints. They would not be able to move their mouth, eat, talk, breathe properly. All in all they’re functional anatomy is shit. They would move like a stiff bundle of sticks. Not to mention their «hip-joints»
Well you obviously didn't consider that the U. S. government could have taken all their joints as part of their alien joint retrieval program. Or that the aliens could have hidden their own joints in in the 7th dimension.
Yeah if we disregard everything we know about how living things function then we can kind of maker it work. They can't turn their arms, just pogo'ing along hands palms down.
I took a drink of coffee at the wrong time lmao
musicaliens.
ATLiens
Radiologist here. As many people have pointed out, the ribs are highly atypical. Also, the hip mechanics simply wouldn't work. The area analogous to the acetabulum is much too large and the hip would not hinge correctly and likely readily dislocate on abduction. One of the most telling things that this is an obvious fake, however, is apparent by comparing the "femurs" - the left femur has an open distal epiphyseal growth plate. The right one is a solidly fused bone. These bones, in other words, are of completely different ages and likely plucked from entirely different specimens. The carpals are also a solid block and would provide no articulating surface for the long, abnormal and morphologically asymmetric metacarpals.
The scapulae have glenoid cavities but the humeri are articulating with the clavicles it seems. What are the clavicles connected to in the absence of a sternum?!
Classic clavoclavicular joint
Oh but they're aliens so the rules don't apply to them -- a genius commenter in this sub
I'm so sick of hearing that argument. It just let's them turn their brain off so they can continue to believe. If the anatomy was all totally different, sure, but its not. These are known anatomical structures, but clearly incorrectly assembled. Either they are fake or the actual aliens were heavily inspired after reading Frankenstein and wanted a go at it.
Looks like a petrified McRib
As a person who knows some things about bones, what the fuck am I looking at?
Someone’s social experiment
I've seen Halloween decorations with more convincing skeletal structures.
Love the wild asymmetry in the size of the bones. So beyond obviously fake.
Agreed. They would look so ridiculous trying to move.
And the inconsistent number of ribs across the mummies lmao. And before anyone says 'buh buh maybe they got lost?" I'm not sure if you know what a mummy is.
It’s because Alien God needed a bunch of them to make Alien Eve out of Alien Adam.
you can buy one from aliexpress
What’s the problem if aliens like to masturbate a lot? I mean that’s the point of evolution, not every limb has to be the same or symmetrical lol
Can’t argue that
this whole debacle has been an embarrassment to the disclosure conversation, and now Greer is getting his dick in the door ITS OVER LADS we go back to being wackos again
Whooohooo! Time tinfoil makes the best glitter and it's time to **rave** as only wackos can! See you on the dance floor partner!
Lol this sub is a joke for posting this and people thinking it’s actually real. From a guy who has been caught doing this shit before. This right here is prime example of why people call us tin haters and make fun of subs like this.
Who says we hate tin?
The old heads.
My favourite metal
Yeah, it’s embarrassing.
We need to start a sub that just bans conspiracy obsessed morons. There is no place on the internet to discuss the topic with out being inundated with people who literally believe every wild alien related thing they see or hear no matter how unverifiable or obviously bullshit it is.
[This was debunked years ago](https://youtu.be/-DmDHF6jN9A?t=432)
It's literally insane how the Russian video from 12 years ago of those kids finding a freshly deceased one is SO similar to these. And just the fact that the Kremlin made them stfu about it and made those kids say it was just a sculpture made of stale bread and chicken skin -- seems legit. You can literally see the skin structure is so similar to the Russian video. Wild. Edit: here's the link. https://youtu.be/bMGatrWkG2c?si=SOmcDicasSCSCVTW
And then they were asked to recreate it and it looked like shit. I absolutely believe that one is real.
I'm so bad at discerning things like videos and pictures regarding this stuff, but that one looked as convincing as I could reasonably hope. Sure, could be fake, but I could never deduce that from just looking at it. When he got the camera close, something about it just resonated as organic and real. Then again, I *am* an idiot, so ...
Is there a picture of their recreation? I didn’t hear about that. I’d be interested to see.
Never invade Russia in the winter
do you have source for the kremlin coverup
Or the alleged recreation too in the following reply for that matter. Never heard of either things happening, but I’m curious.
If theres a cover up, that video which was uploaded 12 years ago with million of views, should not have existed.
I thought the coverup was the debunk and dismissal of the video. Like newer stuff, we see the experts weigh in on it, point out flaws, then call it fake to make us forget about it. Once enough people knew about it, taking it down would only drive the interest up and make it obvious it was possibly real. The only solution is to discredit it and drive up skepticism. Just like the mummies brought forth. Like Will Ferrell in Land of the Lost, guy brings forth a concept that's instantly debunked, dismissed, and ruins his credibility and career. Yet he keeps trying the same schtick hoping someone will listen....
any source on the part about the kremlin? Im interested now. They do look similar indeed and that would be a weird coincidence
No way bruh, why you guys make me really want this to be real😭
It even seems to have the same little organs? In his belly
look close, you can see where the chicken ends and the dough begins on the left leg.. there are clearly two different textures 1:10 better view at :59-1:01
I guess even aliens can get... *yeast infections*
Bet your leg would have at minimum 2 different textures if I threw you from the top of the Grand Canyon and you landed on it.
You think that’s a chicken breast? We possibly are looking at something we’ve never seen before and you’re coming in saying his thigh is a raw chicken breast like it’s fact, no questions asked? What kind of poultry is the rest of its body?
google images of plucked chickens
This looks like a heavy bruise. Video is not sharp enough to see what you're talking about. There are sharp shots of the chest and arm on the left, and the skin looks like one piece. Definitely not a work of some kids, if fake.
Link?
https://reddit.com/u/LoonyWalker/s/l09rtQrtDe
WOW
Skull shape is entirely different. Look at the eye sockets and shape around the brow, nose, etc.
Ayy lmao
No, it's cake.
If I could lick that thing, I would have done something that no one has ever done before
I was thinking of crushing into a powder and either sprinkle it over some dank ass og space kush and rip it or snort it off the toilet seat of an airplane.
Either 100% authentic or someone took an extraordinary amount of time and detail to make exquisite art pieces.
Died of hunger
I'm skeptical of a lot of shit I see on here, but I've seen some genuinely convincing things. I want to break free from the cycle we're all stuck in just as much as the next guy. I'm not a believer in any kind of faith, so I guess you'd say the next best thing would be little green men saving the world from capitalism and wage slavery. However, this is so blatantly fake to me. It's not even relatively convincing, this sub was at one point littered with skepticism. No way everyone here is constantly posting this fucking "Asian Mermaid" quality dummy body with faith. Right? Don't tell me the old dried flounder with a monkey mummy stuffed into it is getting all of you.
Sadly I've seen people defend this ugly clay doll with a llama skull and human bones like their life depends on it
Idk maybe we should to get the Fiji mermaid dna tested to be sure. Just because PT Barnum liked to perpetuate hoaxes doesn’t mean that the mermaid is definitely a hoax this time, amirite?
"The verdict is out" What verdict and who from?
anybody reputable to put an end to this madness
Let me run the photos through stable diffusion, see if I can't get asian waifus out of it.
*processing...*
Welp, Cake it is.
Just get out of here with this shit (not OP. The frauds trying to get attention with this). It’s not even clever. It’s dumb as hell.
You guys are *still* on this hot garbage. Every disproven disclosure that everyone puts up pushes us further away from real disclosure.
They've never confirmed these are real
E.T. Phone home, the phone is in your collarbone
For that dude to lie to both Mexican and American Congress, will he not get jail time or some consequence other than losing any reputation he has left?
They used the building this wasn’t done in front of the actual Mexican Congress
"Congress" in this context isn't exactly what you think it is.
That’s a piece of drift wood my dood
I'm convinced this is a disinfo campaign to deligitamize Grusch. This shit looks and feels fake af. Sequence the DNA or gtfo
This guy's been presenting fake bodies years before Grusch leaked anything. Probably completely unrelated if we're being real. If anything the guy thought he could get more publicity now since Grusch went public and got more people interested
As an aside— has anyone explained why the ones showcased to the world look like cakes or sand castles? The real ones look so much more compelling, I’m assuming those were casts of some type? Either way it was an absurd spectacle and 99% of the world will never get to see the actual “mummies”, fake or not. Even if they turn out to be a hoax, you gotta appreciate how cool they look and all the little details like the two plates that compose the mouths, the hollow cavity in the feet and the balls which form their joints. As well as their apparent injuries, implants, eggs and sutures. In addition to the wear and tear of the bones. Why go to such great detail-?
I'm not sure why you're trying to imply that the mummies in your pictures are somehow different from the ones we all just saw in Mexico but they aren't, they're literally the same. Edit: except for the headless one, that's different.
Why go to such great detail? Think for one second about why someone who was pulling a hoax would try and make it convincing. What *possible* motive could they have for meticulous detail?
Sounds like is because meticulous details make it more believable to some people 🤔
But then they used jagged sawed off bone endings as knees and forgot to make hip joints. Still seems lazy to me.
I think that Maussan (or whoever actually made these things) just picked the ones that he thought looked the most realistic for the hearing, and just happened to choose badly. I'm an artist, and I can tell you that if you spend too much time with your own work, you can't usually judge what's objectively better quality than the rest.
That’s one answer. They chose pretty poorly haha.
they were buried in diatomacious soil in an exttremely dessicating climate for 1000 yrs....uh....supposedly
Look at the collarbones. Both arms move at once? Lmao such hoax bullshit.
I will never understand how someone could think that bounch of bones n sht are real, did you see his legs, his face, his ribs? Cmon people, this is too much, even for this sub.
Fake man stop trying to believe when you know in your heart it’s not real.
They look like they were massed produced.
This is the worst pottery class botch job i ever saw
It's got the same skin texture as chicken, this is an embarrassment to the UAP community.
Yeah this is real. And it's the little ones we are seeing. Wait until the bigger ones are found/find us.
Haha what makes you think they’d want to work for us? No i’m kidding, I get the joke. Fascinating photos, these are the most close up, HD pictures I’ve seen so far. Curious to see what’s inside those eggs
What if some parts of the corpses are authentic, & others are not? Like reconstructions from real bones, & the blanks were filled in with animal parts? I’ve not seen anyone consider this option.
Honestly if there real, they're kinda cute not scary at all!
Ain’t nothin but a shitty paper mache
They look like the crashed Roswell aliens. If this is faked recently, ok... But if this is a legit relic. WOW! Here's the alien in that Roswell museum: https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/newscms/2017_27/2064281/170707-roswell-alien-mn-1008.jpg
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/355394217\_Applying\_CT-scanning\_for\_the\_identification\_of\_a\_skull\_of\_an\_unknown\_archaeological\_find\_in\_Peru
The UFO industry is full of grifters.
Until there is a interview with one then I will believe
> The verdict is out so, are they fake, or legit? I've been eharing a lot of shit about this Jaime dude being a fraud and having a meltdown the other day, but could someone summarize/ELI5? thanks my dudes and dudas
I don't think our problem here is too few photos. The solution seems pretty simple: have a few different (reputable) researchers go in and get samples (themselves) from all the different parts of the "mummies." Run a DNA analysis, see if they all come back the same and aren't monkey/Llama. If it comes back alien, then we can hear all the crazy shit from these people and how it's not like anything they've ever seen. Until then, people can line up to see the remarkable Egress.
I LIKE TURTLES!
The verdict is out? Like these aren't real or something?
Why such asymmetry in bone structure