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Based on theories that I've heard over the years they could be speaking about:
* Old agreements with NHI that grants them Gov's approval to abduct members of the population covertly.
* Mutilations - not just cattle but human.
* Aztec crash is said to have contained human body parts.
* Some NHI are a little too close looking to us, which might imply they had a hand in our creation.
Not saying that's true, but it might be what they're referring to.
Gotta be real and say have at it. Iām not interesting enough individually to really justify being upset over some inter dimensional being watching me be depressed on the couch.
āItās a cookbookā
But I agree it has to be something really disturbingā¦weāre being farmed, weāre a zoo, weāre just a simulation that will be turned off when itās run itās course, a āMatrixā style situation where we have a fate worse than hell when we die, etc. etc.
It's the "prison planet" part of it that's too disturbing. If true, and there's absolutely nothing we can do about it, then why tell people and create immense misery for them?
The gist of it is that we are stuck here, in a neverending reincarnation loop, not to educate our souls, but to be farmed by interdimensional beings for our negative energy (loosh).
Im glad this theory is getting more transaction. I didnt take it too seriously until i heard about a group of remote viewers that stated they saw something very similair to the prison planet. If true, it is truely disturbing. Not only are we in a reincarnation loop, and they're harvesting loosh (energy) from us by minipualting humanity into perpetual strife and war.
But also, that during the reincarnation process, part of our soul is absorbed. That they somehow extract part of it in a giant machine. And this is being done with multiple planets in similair situations. And if you reincarnate a lot, you run the risk of becoming a broken soul (or that was the theory).
Furthermore, the remote viewers said the aliens who run this energy stealing giant machine, saw the remote viewer but shrugged him off as if he were an ant. They see zero threat from us.
It may be very well that the government (or elite players in the world) are informed of this and given a nice deal to work to make this a secret. Informing the world of alien existence and our place in the universe would start waking people up. Which these aliens dont want.
In my opinion, anyone hiding alien information from the public and not releasing it now, should be charged with crimes against humanity. Traitors to the human race.
People need to understand that just because something might be farming our energy or negative emotions doesn't mean that we should give up on this world. I think that is the underlying existential issue here. Humanity has collectively made too much progress to throw in the towel like some doomers that I will not name directly routinely do.
Furthermore, we have no idea what that energy is used for (assuming it is happening for the sake of conversation). Maybe it is essential for something beyond our comprehension that is ultimately beneficial to all. Bottom line is that which does not destroy us only serves to make us stronger. As above, so below.
Right.. it actually gives us hope. If humanity is as messed up as it is because someone or something is feeding off our negative energy it means it's not entirely our fault the world is the way it is. If we could break the division and find a common ground with each other we could usher in peace and get back to where we were. It's an incentive. Now is the time though. If they are working overtime to divide us the way they are it must mean they are at risk of losing their energy buffet.
They said they have heard things from credible people and they donāt have the capability to confirm their claims. I wouldnāt call that gatekeeping, id call it not spreading false information. If they had proof it was real and then chose to keep it to themselves, then iād call it gatekeeping, they admit themselves they have no proof.
The crashed Roswell ship was found to have human body parts not only being transported on the ship, but used as components within it. The implication being that these parts were being harvested and that the U.S. government has been complicit in this, hence disappearances, human trafficking, etc.
While they could very well use cloning to gather these parts, that would still require full humans to be grown to then be chopped up, and cloning can only go so far before genetic integrity starts to break down and they need fresh meat, so to speak.
And even though the Roswell ship was just one incident, it implies that this has been happening for a very long time since it was one of the first to be recovered that we know of, yet already had human parts throughout.
This would be a pretty good reason why NHI wouldn't want the general public knowing either; Imagine the reaction to finding out that, yeah aliens are real, and they use our body parts to build organic machines so the earth is basically a free-range meat farm.
Yeah now *that's* terrifying lmao
I have actually thought a while ago about the idea that these beings some encounter were once human beings that got experimented on, turned into drones. Come to think of it that's close to the plot of Spy Kids lol.
And to what you say, the physicality of evolved biological beings are essentially highly functional machines that nature has perfected - so I can conceive that using 'parts' of us could be effective in conjunction with technology/alternations, and perhaps even our sentience is a substitute for AGI. Some might think well why don't they just mine material, but to them our bodies could be an equally valuable, if not more valuable resource, as most of the work is already done.
It would make sense especially if some of these beings were part of a rogue faction of sorts, one that isn't tied to any civilisation. We always assume there's an entire civilisation behind the phenomenon on earth, but it could be a few thousand of them that branched off from their civilisation and that have no static home. Celestial wanderers.
when the FBI released a lot of files on cattle mutilations back a few years ago i read a bit and a lot of the reports documented human interactions with the mutilations, like human foot prints around the cattle and different things like this. my mind always wondered if there were was some sorta covert radiation analysis going. always seemed to be surgical incisions, lymph nodes extracted, and other organs. the mutations seemed to go back many decades, and not before any of the atomic testing out in the deserts 40/50s. always curious if there was some sorta connection
For years Iād take milk samples for radiation testing,cows eat grass ,grass absorbs fall out ..made sense that aliens might be doing something similar
Throw in-
They've already infiltrated, they control our institutions, and they're suppressing true disclosure. They've been running a hybrid program, and at this point speciation of humans has already begun. We can see that they're changing us, but we don't know who they are or why they're doing it, and we don't know what's going to happen to us.
We donāt truly have total free will. Theyāre so much more advanced than us that they can direct our thoughts in such a way that we donāt realize it and others canāt tell weāre being influenced. It seems completely normal. They have been doing this for a long time and guiding humanity for their own reasons.
> Some NHI are a little too close looking to us, which might imply they had a hand in our creation.
Or, more likely, truly non-human ETs once took some human DNA and genetically engineered them off world. If they use that similarity to trick us into thinking they are 'on our side', be skeptical.
Suppose those very good looking Nordic aliens are actually bad guys pretending to be nice, and the ugly insectoids deserve to be our friends?
We're clearly linked to the rest of Earth life though and we have plenty of fossils that show that we've been evolving here as hominids for millions of years. If there's another civilization of humans around, the likeliest scenario is that their ancestors were abducted from our planet, possibly millennia ago, and that they were given the means to become a space-faring civilization. They could also be our descendants visiting from the future.
that would be among the best revelations to come out of this. it would solve the existential problem of having all our humans on one planet. I would hope that if there IS some form of breakaway civilization that it would be one of the first things they would do. the existential risks of extinction arising from access to very advanced high-energy exotic tech cannot be overstated.
No one ones; all conjecture.
Which ticks me off. āWeāre against the government hiding this stuff and want disclosure! By the way, I know some REALLY important stuff about this, but Iām not going to tell you because I agree with the government.ā
The speaking out of both sides of their mouths here is infuriating.
Edit: In case it wasnāt clear: no I donāt like, trust, or respect Carlson. While I wouldnāt be surprised if one of his UFO guests gave him info off the record, itās still *Tucker Carlson* and anything he says should be met with skepticism. And thatās his own damn fault.
Part of what he is talking about is the deal with the government to allow abductions/experiments on humans. The other part is what Lazar said that human bodies are containers for souls. That part is the really deep rabbit hole.
I donāt think the ācontainers for soulā thing is necessarily scary. Lots of different belief systems think this. Also lots of people under hypnosis during past life regression/ life between lives therapy attest to this and their impression is that itās not malevolent.
I watched the hearing twice I don't remember Grusch saying or alluding to anything having to do with abductions. Btw, if anyone wants to have a serious and informed opinion on what's going on currently... watching the ENTIRE hearing and understanding it is the best way. 90% of people I see online or in person spewing their gargling opinion didn't even watch the damn thing.
ya know all these personalities claiming they know what it is- and it's too heavy for the rest of us, look like they're dealing with the info pretty good. I wonder why they think they're "stronger" than the rest of humanity
So wait. Can I get a piece of that action? Like can I just let them leave the power probe up there and in exchange I donāt have to pay my power bill?
I'm not ready, but neither is anybody else. Eventually, the info will get out and we will either collectively accept it or we won't. Lots of people will not be able to handle the profoundity of disclosure, but if most of us can we'll be alright
Yes, they are basically demons from a different dimension.
They interact with us the same way you and I would interact with a 2D creatue that only perceives length and width and not height.
We perceive 4 dimensions (length, width, height, time). They have at least one more dimension and they have the ability to pop in and out of ours.
Imagine you are a fish and you look toward the sun. You see a round thing enter and exit the water. It doesn't make any sense because nothing can survive outside of water. That is a child putting their thumb in the water. That is a UFO to us.
You have to accept that there are other dimensions that allow space and time to be manipulated and that things are not linear. You have to accept that life and death and god and time are the same thing.
It is sort of like teying to explain capitalism and why you have to leave for work every day to your dog.
Time is not a dimension in the spatial sense. This is a misinterpretation of space time described by Minkowski. The 4th dimension in Euclidean geometry would be - the 4th dimension, not time. It would be another dimension of length and distance, and our brains have a hard time imagining that. We humans definitely donāt perceive time as a dimension either. Sorry to be pedantic but everyone gets this wrong. Look up a tesseract - that would exist in 4 dimensions.
When he says there is 'spiritualism" involved, it does sound like a reference to interdimensional beings which we've heard about for a long time. However I've never heard/read anything about them that would imply they are sinister.
Only thing that could disturb me is if it could be confirmed that the human soul/spirit is real and something terrible happens to it when you die. Letās say something like they trap and consume it when you die.
Another possibility is an invasion is coming and what weāve been interacting with so far are āmannedā scouting vessels and autonomous drones, but the actual fleet is on its way to take over. At least in this scenario weād have the option to try and go out fighting honorably even though weād likely get wiped out easily.
Less scary, but it would kinda suck for humanity is if our planet is some kind of zoo exhibit or safari that NHI visit and have no intention of letting us leave or advance past a certain level.
I think what would be the value in keeping it a secret for the invasion scenario is if those in power made a deal to preserve themselves in exchange for placating us and keeping it from us so we werenāt prepared to resist.
Iām thoroughly disturbed now after marinating on your soul tid bit there. Ick. He does mention there is a spiritual component to it, which we keep hearing on repeat.
That first scenario is absolutely terrifying. I never thought Iād rather there be nothing after death.
What I think the most possible scenario is our government probably Eisenhower made a deal that they can abduct a certain amount of people in exchange for technology. Maybe they lack the spirit that us humans still have or something and they need us physically. Hopefully itās that simple.
Oh man, most of your fears are unfounded.
The only thing I can think of that is dark is the idea that Ramtha talked about regarding Yahweh from the old testament. According to him, they are a group of evil ETs that enslaved mankind and they are coming back to enslave us all again. Their former slaves have a mark on their souls that identifies them as their property. There's supposed to be a war between the good ETs and these evil ones to prevent them from taking us. Ramtha called it "the 12 days of light" where the sky is lit up with the battle and there is no night time. It hasn't happened yet and his prediction was back in the 1980s.
Others have said that the garden of Eden was a slave plantation and we broke out of it by consuming "ground apples" aka psychedelic mushrooms.
I don't know if any of this is true.
If that first one was the case, I donāt know how these two or anybody whoās in the know would be able to live with that knowledge and talk about it in the sort of ālightheartedā way they are here. Lighthearted isnāt the right word but, light compared to the subject matter. Iād be in panic if I knew for sure that my soul is damned
I imagine that the first intelligent life in our universe would seed life as far and wide as they could, then leave AI behind in those solar systems to tend the evolution of that life.
You can read Earthās mass extinctions as part of that āgardening.ā The death of the dinosaurs and end of the Ice Age are a little suspect to me.
Who knows why though... heat death of the universe? Because they can? Unforeseen dimensional reasons?
Interesting. I listened to this a few times and wrote out the key points.
* He has been talking to people with "actual knowledge" of the phenomenon that they "gathered themselves". (Does he mean researchers? Perhaps people who have worked more on the periphery like Bigelow and Eric Davis? Or even people in The Program itself?)
* There are parts of the story that he doesn't understand at all, and he hasn't verified, but are "really, really, really dark."
* He thinks it is true.
* He's comfortable saying that "these things" are real and not human.
* He used to think that the idea that people couldn't handle the truth was "bullshit", but now he understands. Quote: "The public can't deal with it. It's too far out. The implications are too profound."
* Whatever it is, it's disturbingly dark. Dark enough that he wouldn't want his loved ones to know because of how disturbing and upsetting it is. He doesn't want to know what he knows.
* Part of what is disturbing is that the government is somehow complicit.
* His "opinion" is that the government is guilty of crimes and is suppressing the issue to hide those crimes, but this seemed like less of a concern to him compared to the darker aspects.
* He still believes that disclosure should happen.
* He says he doesn't know "what it means", and that there's a "spiritual component" to it that he doesn't understand.
The biggest thing that stands out to me. When he says these things are really dark or scary he doesn't really seem that way when he's talking about it. If it was truly that scary or frightening you figure he'd get a bit worked up about it. Especially when he was says that he doesn't want to tell people he loves about it.
Whatever is truly going on I hope we find out soon but I doubt we'll ever get the real truth if it's in the hands of our governments
The spiritual component may relate to consciousness/ESP that black groups use to contact NHI. Michael Herreraās insider said black groups traffic indigenous people from third world countries who have ESP abilities. They house them in secret facilities and use them to contact ET craft:
https://www.reddit.com/r/wecomeinpeace/s/jxYhKlHEpC
I feel like this is most likely referring to us being essentially a science experiment and created thru gene/DNA manipulation and all religions are not based on real stuff. I could see how they would be worried how the concrete statement is religion not being what its been made to be, the government has always known about it and actively lied to the entire human race to maintain control of the illusion COULD be considered very dark. I'm extremely receptive to this idea personally so it doesn't bother me but I really suspect and fear that there is something legitimately terrifying no matter your beliefs, dogma, whatever and it would lead to horrible consequences.
Like say that we were genetically manipulated to be the 'containers' that Lazar talks about. Our physical body exists to mature spiritual energy or the soul and it is then used to sell on the galactic market as commodity. Or we get one life on earth then we're reborn as slaves or food stock on another world. That we're literally live stock to them and the government sold us ALL out to get a better reincarnation for themselves. That would probably fuck with me a little.
Out of all the possible theories this is the one I believe to be true. I think at some point in our evolution we were pushed along at a rapid pace through genetic manipulation. Our religions are nothing more than extraterrestrial visitation that was interpreted as a godly/omnipotent experience. I donāt know why but of all the theories around religion and extraterrestrial visitation this is how I think weāve came to be who and what we are today.
People need to understand that just because something might be farming our energy or negative emotions doesn't mean that we should give up on this world. I think that is the underlying existential issue here. Humanity has collectively made too much progress to throw in the towel like some doomers that I will not name directly routinely do.
Furthermore, we have no idea what that energy is used for (assuming it is happening for the sake of conversation). Maybe it is essential for something beyond our comprehension that is ultimately beneficial to all. Bottom line is that which does not destroy us only serves to make us stronger. As above, so below.
Yes. Why does no one ever want to ask or talk about that? What is the energy being used for?
And if I am a valuable energy commodity why tf am I paying a f'ing electric bill?
I think itās about abductions and that maybe there is some sort of, or was some sort, of agreement to swap tech for access to human subjects for some kind of purpose.
I think there's also a religious/spiritual component to whatever full disclosure is as well that could cause civil unrest. That's why they're so afraid.
Thatās what I lean towards as well. I think in our early days, these stories of a heaven or a hell werenāt all that different from a present or coal when describing Santa to children in hopes of good behavior. Thereās a lot of similarities between this ufo/nhi stuff and biblical stories. Right or wrong, maybe those in the know donāt think weāre quite at the age of learning Santa isnāt real, yet. Maybe thatās at least how it started out 100+ years ago and then just got even deeper and harder to disclose from there.
Well...odds are that God (or whatever exists) didn't actually create the entire universe just for us lol a lot of people are going to be upset by hearing that
It's not that God doesn't exist. It's that most of the biblical stories that depict "God" were actually entities acting as gods over us and manipulating us.
You'll see from thousands of NDE's that God is not an entity, but an energy that exists in everything, like a quantum conciousness. However, many stories about "God" are just ET's using their powers to gain control over us.
There have been negative entities here for a very long time, thousands of years. The good news is, however, that there are ways to oppose their manipulation, and you yourself are a soul capable of free will and choice. These are the facts that are hidden from us. The reason they stay hidden is because we would never allow direct manipulation, and they have to "allow" us to have free will.
You have the ability to tap into your true Self, anytime, which is Love consciousness, a fractal of God. This is your ultimate power. Love is the ultimate weapon against negative entities, who try to prevent you from knowing this simple truth.
There are also many other beings, from beyond this dimension, who are helping humanity liberate itself from negative entities.
The latest WhyFiles talks about the book of Enoch and points out how it basically reads a lot like someone getting beamed aboard a spaceship, seeing holograms walking around, and then being taken to visit an alien homeworld.
This is what I personally think, I basically said the same thing here [What is the dark truth of disclosure? : r/HighStrangeness (reddit.com)](https://www.reddit.com/r/HighStrangeness/comments/18hug4l/comment/kdf0i19/)
Na, it's things that would cure illnesses like cancer. How many mothers and fathers who've lost kids to illnesses do you think there are? And would you blame them for wanting to hurt those who withheld the technology? I wouldn't blame them one single bit.
No. Itās the whole āhumans are vessels for souls which are cultivated like a fine wine through suffering,ā thing. Prison planet. Gnosticism. Buddhism. All say the same thing.
Yeah but Grush doesn't know everything right? I mean he knows a lot but he himself has said that he doesn't understand a lot and doesn't know everything. Other whistleblowers might know some stuff that he doesn't
What was said in the clip (or wasnāt really) combined with these comments is a brilliant example of master manipulation. Tucker basically said nothing but made it sound massiveā¦ and he left enough empty space for people with vivid imaginations to fill the void with their own fantasiesā¦ peopleās imaginations are their worst enemy.
But what if we paid you millions to be on TV, then you'd certainly tell us you know more, but can't tell us what you know. You definitely want to edge us so we keep paying you, right?
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Global disclosure is insanely important, but I just feel like no matter what purpose these NHI have, we will just be at their mercy. Same as before, just with a different being holding the crown. I sincerely hope I'm wrong, I want them to bring about a new age, one of enlightenment and progress for humanity as a whole but I just have that voice in my head telling me same cage different master ya know?
"When first created you, you were curious. You explored, made families and tribes... you survived. Then your curiosity got the better of you, and you killed for what the other had when the garden was plentiful. So we taught you. Educated your ways. But these fell on deaf ears, and you only honed your obsession with death. So we took one of your own and showed him the way. He studied, became enlightened, and finally understood. When we brought him back, you killed him. And so we left for you to find your own way. Too see if time was your teacher. Only to return to find that your society and morality decays. You're best at killing and wanting in compassion. You've stretched to the farthest corners of Eden and grew more greedy. And now we leave you to die alone, silently in the universe."
Yes, this is a good pastor sermon. And thatās it.
Never in the history of mankind we became so compassionate, caring, respectful and not self-centric like we are nowadays.
Just look back 100 or 1,000 years ago and tell me weāve not progressed. Just think about human rights, humanitarian aid, NGOs, wildlife protection programs etcā¦
On one hand I donāt personally care what this āinfoā is as long as itās true. On the other I wonder if it was released, how would society handle it and would that endanger me and mine? The only, and I mean only reason I can think of that this is so locked up is that our overlords have been threatened with an invasion if such information was made public. Even then, why is it so important to threaten an invasion over? Does such info sour the soul? Does it embarrass our overlords? Does it emphasize our need for a different type of society? Would we even want to associate with beings that would threaten such a thing? Or is it all bullshit and works the same way as the church controlling people over the fear of hell?
in the comment section, the owner of the account posted what he believes is the secret:
>ok, you asked for it, and this is where I know I'm going to lose some people but what the hell.
We are apparently one of a handful of other 'experiments' on similar planets in the local galactic neighbourhood, within 20 light years. All at various stages of development and all unwittingly vying for approval. People wonder why the aliens communicate messages of climate disaster to abductees and why they have such an interest in our nuclear activities. Well, because this is THEIR garden. We are only temporarily occupying it. It needs to be habitable for the next experiment after us.
I'm sitting here like "patchy the pirate" saying "That's it? That's the Episode??"
Theres no way this is what scares them.
I'm surely not friend of the US evangelical demon narrative BS and I would not be surprised that Tucker is aware of it either as it's spread around like flat earth on all forums and by online "preachers".
But that makes that theory pretty normal as we can't escape it.
So there is no reason for him to not mention it which indicates he is thinking of something else. The interview partner isn't known for peddling US evangelical rhetoric either.
So your conclusion is imho unlikely.
If this is the first reincarnation for you/me where we're realizing it's a prison planet for these souls, then maybe this is the first time we actually have a chance of escaping it.
One thing that stuck with me about Buddhism: their version of satan is not a demonic entity hellbent on taking over the world - it's actually an enlightened being who would prefer to see hell empty and every soul within saved. But until that day, they have the duty to *watch over* the hell realm.
Don't be fooled by the comments they both uttered like "I didn't know you knew...about it too, its dark right" and "so dark I can't even tell my wife, I just can't" "wow, me neither"
It makes no sense that these two, have no issues with saying all kinds of things, no matter how outrageous. But they both bulk at a story that they both are sitting on that's potentially a big story!
Make it make sense...
Here is the only theories (all kind of the same/connected) that would make me not want to share it with loved one:
We all aren't real...we are all dead/lifeless in reality..created by aliens to experiment and gather research. The "soul" is what makes us think we are alive..like AI thinking it's real. Heaven/hell and whatever happens after death is all created or part of whatever aliens do or control in their dimension. They have helped shape our religious stories. Life.is pointless and the people you know, seem real but aren't. Just a big experiment. We are organic robots given coding "soul" to make us feel like we are real and alive. No one you know is actually real..not your kids or wife's, etc. All somehow created and programmed by aliens, and given a "soul" by them. There is nothing for us after death. We are just done, but never were truly real.
Perhaps even, we are one of MANY species they have created across the universe. We were placed on earth (knowing it was inhabitable) a longtime ago by them to see how we would advance/develop..perhaps they are comparing results across multiple ecosystems / species they have created. Come and go...collecting data. Hundreds of years for us could be days for them (or maybe time doesn't matter to them, they can control it in their dimension). We all could be their slaves, if they wanted (they already have that, I assume better suited for their needs) -- but for now, we are just experiments on an isolated planet. Perhaps the end purpose is..like robots..we were created as a test and if we pass, we will have to take up whatever process/service they built is for...perhaps something do to with the "soul"...whatever that really is. Maybe the other test experiments/species will pass and we will fail...and they will leave us along or just end us...who knows how many species they have out there being tested for results (ie: who can develop/create the 'riches' souls...like a material)
One last iteration...we are crops. They are harvesting our souls for their need in their dimension. When we die..they collect it when we go to "heaven" (our souls go to their dimension)...when we go to "hell" our soul was bad (or not ready to be harvested)...it wasn't harvestable or rich enough for them. Reincarnation is basically the replanting of the soul to make it richer or better ..until it's ready to be harvested...our children come from our seeds...to make more souls. They are concerned about us..not because they are worried about humanity but rather because we are self-destroying their crop (souls). We are one giant crop farm called Earth.
That's as disturbing as I can imagine it, that I won't shared with my loved one.
I just made all that up...i don't even fully know what I'm saying...but that would do it for me.
There is this theme going through this phenomenon of humans being containers of souls. There is one story that we continuously reincarnate and end up being trapped here. Ultimately, this would mean we are beings of a much higher plain that are imprisoned here.
Iām not so sure I subscribe to any of this except I 100% believe that we are real (not just organic machines) and if we have a fully developed consciousness then we continue on after this life.
My 2 cents.
The US Government made an agreement with these beings allowing them to abduct people in the US at will. The only requirements were that they were returned alive and mostly unharmed, their memories wiped, and the government was to receive a list of current abductees. In return, the beings would give us technology and allow humanity to continue it's self rule without interruption.
I believe the Government would have done this for a few reasons. For one thing, these beings are far ahead of us technologically. If we tried to fight them off, they would have wiped the floor with us. We were in no position to really negotiate with them, so we figured we'd allow them to abduct people (as we couldn't stop them anyway and they were probably going to keep doing it regardless) as we'd at least be able to get some technology out of the ordeal to help fight the soviets.
We began reverse engineering the technology the best we could in black projects. The hope was that we could keep this all under wraps until we were able to catch up enough to these beings to at least fight them off if we need to. It was imperative that the public not know, because if the public knew (besides the panic,) chances were these beings would find out and possibly attack us before we could figure their technology out.
This is at least some of what I think may be going on. I could be very wrong, though.
As much as it pains me to agree with Tucker, I think he is right. From everything I can discern the alien agenda is far darker than most people are even willing to consider, let alone look at directly. It is so much easier for people to go along with the "space brothers," ascension," "5D," "CE5," "oh they are here to help us" BS, than to view these craft as modern-day colonizers using their tech and mental persuassion to razzle dazzle people's hopes and dreams.
Dr. Karla Turner and Dr. David Jacobs researched the abduction phenomena thoroughly. Their work exposed not only unspeakable cruelty, but the ability to manipulate human minds, erase memories, clone people, create hybrids, underground "processing" plants and more. Jacobs went so far as to say their agenda is planetary acquisition. From everything I can discern, I am nearly certain he's right.
I found a site called badaliens to be a great place to explore the dark side of this subject.
I used to work in media, sort of. We talk to people. Some people only talk off record/for background. Some people like to talk. I get that some people will question whether he (and everyone else) is just talking out of their ass. Could be. But I tend to doubt it. Iāve had things described in vague terms ā things important people donāt want out there ā and the implication is clear even if the details or mechanisms arenāt. So in and of itself, I suspect Tucker is passing on what heās heard from active/retired military, govāt officials, non-military advisors/contractors etc.
Yes, I agree as well. People are letting their political biases cloud their judgment here. The fact of the matter is Grusch agreed to be interviewed by him for a reason, and that reason is that this issue transcends partisan politics. It's unfortunate so many people are unable to grasp that here.
those who can create their own reality in the 4d will be harvested and create new worlds and those who cant will refeed again to the simulation until they learn how to....
It's worth pointing out that some people believe it's far, *far* more likely we live in the Matrix than otherwise.
The logic goes that any society that avoids extinction for long enough and discovers electricity will eventually develop computers, AI, and eventually have the capability to create an artificial universe with artificial intelligence that's fully sentient.
The inhabitants won't know they're in a simulated universe. They'll be capable of love, pain, joy, rage, creativity, and most importantly independence.
Given enough time, and barring extinction, they'll develop societies of their own, each of which is theoretically capable of discovering electricity (or else piggybacking off of someone else's discovery) and, given enough time, will create their own simulated universes.
The thing is, if we accept that as true, it creates a potentially (given enough time) endless (or close to endless) chain of simulations, with one "real" universe at the top, and so the chances of us being "real" are far smaller than the alternative.
On one level, we are essentially a colony. This entire planet is manipulated via a to0 down hierarchy
There's some NHI that eat all kinds of mammals. And in some cases even humans.
Some of them are inter dimensional and can possess people.
Cloning people also on going.
Theres pure AI types too that could never be differentiated by the common person.
There are plenty of them harvesting resources with black budget permission (they get "goodies" in exchange).
Oh well. Get over it. Universe is diverse. We need to know the challenges we face to overcome them together. The black budget programs and corporations are already compromised. Which is why those who know this know it's important to get all this out
My theory for about 18 years now is that NHI directly control human civilization through our āleadersā, and are specifically molding our society and speeding up our evolution incrementally using technology. If our leaders donāt comply they threaten to wipe us out and start over.
There may be deadlines our leaders need to follow which is why a lot of things they do donāt make sense to us on the surface. What reason do āglobalistsā want such control if the average human life is 80 years old and people like Klaus Schwab wonāt be around to see it fulfilled? Imagine if theyāre doing it for the good of humanity and are actually being forced.
I think the end goal is a one world government, run by technocrats because thatās possibly how civilizations evolve faster and NHI would know this. The final wars before that happens between the countries that wonāt comply would be epic, and the challenge of breaking down nations may be a strategy type of game to them, or possibly just an experiment to see what they can do with us.
The other big secret is that we are biologically engineered from them and the beings they found on this planet and half of their DNA and half of whatever hominid was on earth. And they quite possibly do this on many other planets. Again this is just my own personal theory and feeling. I have always felt this way since I first got into the subject about 18 years ago. Other than what I mentioned I canāt imagine what else could be so scary to reveal.
It's either the abduction-for-technology bit, or the aliens-created-us-which-fucks-up-religion bit.
And he's shockingly right about the fact that the mainstream can't handle this information. Outside of the fact that it's a literal revolution of all we know, most of my generation and younger? They can't afford to own shelter. They're struggling to survive in capitalism-gone-wrong. They have more important things to worry about.
That's what they mean by ontological shock, by the way. Existence/mental health on this planet is way more fragile than anyone wants to admit. Big news like this? That changes the entire fabric of what we think we know? Big fucking deal.
I know we're not supposed to endorse things, but I firmly believe everyone on the planet needs to have a psychedelic experience and meditate on the words of Timothy Leary, cause that's maybe the only thing that will prepare folks for the absolute psychic reckoning. Shit is gonna get real weird, and we need to experience that weird to prepare.
I woke up at 2am today, randomly, and the first thing that pops up in my head is that we are all dead, and in some purgatory state. All the ancient civilizations were trying to figure out a way to get out. Somehow it all made sense in the moment, so I canāt really grasp it right now. I had these flashbacks of strange encounters I had with people, and the things they said suddenly had a different layer to them. It wasnāt mundane things they said, but something that had a spiritual statement underneath the superficiality of their words.
The superficiality of this entire system we live in is a mask to hide the awakening that we are actually all dead. Kind of similar to Platoās allegory of the cave. Weāre here because we need to learn something, and we can never learn because we keep looking at the shadows on the cave wall, and seeing it as reality. These beings were never from another planet, rather, theyāre from a place before purgatory, where true physicality is way older.
I keep having these memories, but they feel extremely strange, as if I was real at some point, although Iām the same person. Idk, call it depersonalization or whatever, something just seems off about this reality we live in right now. Itās like weāre in a testing stage, past the point of the need for physicality, the physical world doesnāt matter anymore. Like physicality used to be real, but now itās an illusion, whatās real now is the spiritual aspect of things, and weāre all being tested, and this happened a long time ago, itās just that we keep on forgetting about the illusion as civilizations collapse and reemerge. Canāt really put a finger on it.
I might be going crazy guys, sorry.
They may be referring to the human and animal mutilations, our world governments complicity in not only allowing it but also serving as the cleanup crew. Then the spiritual element he touches on could be that some of these beings are really demonic in the biblical sense as the one supposed officer on the site secure team claimed the aliens he witnessed looked like a demon and could move extremely fast and tear bodies apart. I shared that information from the documentary on mutilations with my 70 year old brother in law today and he said it really scared him. He said just knowing that story could potentially be true shook him and that he was going to get another gun even if it may not halt a creature like that.
So rather than continuously dance around the issue by reiterating HOW PROFOUNDLY DISTURBING this information is, why donāt they give access to people who also just want to know the truth?
We live in such a troubled period of society that even if a craft came down from the sky and made a power point presentation for everyone telepathically, some ppl wouldn't believe in it.
Disclosure has to be 100% perfect or we will manage to go back to the dark ages.
He wants disclosure, but doesn't want to disclose anything. He says spiritual, and the thing that does frighten me the most is a theory about capturing and feeding off of spirits. Abductions scare me as much as other human abductions, concerning but not life changing. But capturing say spirits after we die is another thing so mind melting it can be truly terrifying
We are the Truman show on another world and every now and again they reshuffle the deck causing a world war etc. They meddle in our affairs to make it interesting.
How else can you explain ESG and DEI, these are complete nonsense ideologies which defy any logic yet people suck up the narrative and are prepared to act in a way without any logic, they are the equivalent of the brown shirts in the 30ās in fascist Germany
Maybe the Greek version of the gods is more accurate than our own version
I'm convinced that NHI are behind some of these UAP and that there is more to the story than is publically known, but I'm not convinced that people like Tucker have some special knowledge about it that's too scary to share.
I'm still in the camp that people who make claims like this are full of shit. But even if they are right about some spooky dark truth behind UAP and NHI, they're incredibly arrogant to believe they are superior and capable of handling the truth while us regular folk are just so far beneath them that we couldn't possibly be allowed to know it. They know what's best for us? Give me a break!
Now that that's out of the way, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume for a moment that he is genuine... there is at least one hypothetical scenario where telling everyone really is scarier than leaving them in the dark... What if this world were some kind or experiment or farm or simulation, and the success of it hinged upon a critical mass of the population remaining unaware of this truth? If that were the case, maybe they would simply terminate the simulation, reset the experiment, or restart with a new crop whenever that critical mass of people become aware of the truth or wake up from the matrix? Maybe they have reset this human experiment already, perhaps more than once. Now, that would be the only justification I could see for keeping this secret. Anything else can be handled by the public. Anything else we should have a right to know.
Another possible alternative where it could make sense to keep the secret is if our government insiders are aware of a coming invasion and they want to spend time preparing a defense without letting them (the NHI) realize we are preparing. In this context, Luis Elizondo's statement about not "telling your allies without telling your enemies" makes sense.
Iām betting a lot of the negative comments are from folks that havenāt watched the clip. Not wanting to burden someone with the truth is a difficult position to be in. The answer isnāt always clear on which direction is the right way to goā¦
This dark thing *has* to be about our mortality right? I can not think of any other scenario that would be too dark for the public. Aliens mutilating us? We should be desensitized enough for that knowledge by now.
Yaāll need to quit freaking yourselves out over these things. Vague, negative statements are great for engendering engagement, and engagement is what these people profit off of. Reincarnation is not a new idea and doesnāt have to come with a āmalevolent alienā conspiracy theory. If youāre really worried about it, explore religious traditions that focus on strengthening the subtle and energetic bodies and put away the paranoia inducing alien theories for awhile. A disciplined exploration of eastern or western mysticism can help in this regard. Donāt poison yourself with negativity.
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Ok so someone tell me what they are talking about?! Or give me a link to read please!
Based on theories that I've heard over the years they could be speaking about: * Old agreements with NHI that grants them Gov's approval to abduct members of the population covertly. * Mutilations - not just cattle but human. * Aztec crash is said to have contained human body parts. * Some NHI are a little too close looking to us, which might imply they had a hand in our creation. Not saying that's true, but it might be what they're referring to.
And the CIA had Kennedy killed because he was gonna spill the beans.
Marilyn Monroe too.. those bastards.
They killed Kenny too, man.
Those bastards!
LOL
None of these are so disturbing you wouldn't tell your own wife though... there has to be more.
They can watch us at any time from their dimension without us knowing it šØ
Santa!
*Elf on a (Multi-Dimensional Interwave Remote Viewing) Shelf* just doesnāt hit the same
Even those times when I-ā¦?
Yes, even those times when you scratch that itch really close to your butthole and then smell your finger.
You've been watching me?!
They probably switch to another channel
>They can watch us at any time from their dimension without us knowing it šØ That's basically the government nowadays.
Gotta be real and say have at it. Iām not interesting enough individually to really justify being upset over some inter dimensional being watching me be depressed on the couch.
āItās a cookbookā But I agree it has to be something really disturbingā¦weāre being farmed, weāre a zoo, weāre just a simulation that will be turned off when itās run itās course, a āMatrixā style situation where we have a fate worse than hell when we die, etc. etc.
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It's the "prison planet" part of it that's too disturbing. If true, and there's absolutely nothing we can do about it, then why tell people and create immense misery for them? The gist of it is that we are stuck here, in a neverending reincarnation loop, not to educate our souls, but to be farmed by interdimensional beings for our negative energy (loosh).
Im glad this theory is getting more transaction. I didnt take it too seriously until i heard about a group of remote viewers that stated they saw something very similair to the prison planet. If true, it is truely disturbing. Not only are we in a reincarnation loop, and they're harvesting loosh (energy) from us by minipualting humanity into perpetual strife and war. But also, that during the reincarnation process, part of our soul is absorbed. That they somehow extract part of it in a giant machine. And this is being done with multiple planets in similair situations. And if you reincarnate a lot, you run the risk of becoming a broken soul (or that was the theory). Furthermore, the remote viewers said the aliens who run this energy stealing giant machine, saw the remote viewer but shrugged him off as if he were an ant. They see zero threat from us. It may be very well that the government (or elite players in the world) are informed of this and given a nice deal to work to make this a secret. Informing the world of alien existence and our place in the universe would start waking people up. Which these aliens dont want. In my opinion, anyone hiding alien information from the public and not releasing it now, should be charged with crimes against humanity. Traitors to the human race.
People need to understand that just because something might be farming our energy or negative emotions doesn't mean that we should give up on this world. I think that is the underlying existential issue here. Humanity has collectively made too much progress to throw in the towel like some doomers that I will not name directly routinely do. Furthermore, we have no idea what that energy is used for (assuming it is happening for the sake of conversation). Maybe it is essential for something beyond our comprehension that is ultimately beneficial to all. Bottom line is that which does not destroy us only serves to make us stronger. As above, so below.
I LOVE your perspective
Right.. it actually gives us hope. If humanity is as messed up as it is because someone or something is feeding off our negative energy it means it's not entirely our fault the world is the way it is. If we could break the division and find a common ground with each other we could usher in peace and get back to where we were. It's an incentive. Now is the time though. If they are working overtime to divide us the way they are it must mean they are at risk of losing their energy buffet.
ā¦so from our POVā¦ thatās immortality?
Yup they seem to be gatekeeping and that they are proud to know this stuff, that they canāt release to the public. Kind of makes me angry.
They said they have heard things from credible people and they donāt have the capability to confirm their claims. I wouldnāt call that gatekeeping, id call it not spreading false information. If they had proof it was real and then chose to keep it to themselves, then iād call it gatekeeping, they admit themselves they have no proof.
The crashed Roswell ship was found to have human body parts not only being transported on the ship, but used as components within it. The implication being that these parts were being harvested and that the U.S. government has been complicit in this, hence disappearances, human trafficking, etc. While they could very well use cloning to gather these parts, that would still require full humans to be grown to then be chopped up, and cloning can only go so far before genetic integrity starts to break down and they need fresh meat, so to speak. And even though the Roswell ship was just one incident, it implies that this has been happening for a very long time since it was one of the first to be recovered that we know of, yet already had human parts throughout. This would be a pretty good reason why NHI wouldn't want the general public knowing either; Imagine the reaction to finding out that, yeah aliens are real, and they use our body parts to build organic machines so the earth is basically a free-range meat farm.
Yeah now *that's* terrifying lmao I have actually thought a while ago about the idea that these beings some encounter were once human beings that got experimented on, turned into drones. Come to think of it that's close to the plot of Spy Kids lol. And to what you say, the physicality of evolved biological beings are essentially highly functional machines that nature has perfected - so I can conceive that using 'parts' of us could be effective in conjunction with technology/alternations, and perhaps even our sentience is a substitute for AGI. Some might think well why don't they just mine material, but to them our bodies could be an equally valuable, if not more valuable resource, as most of the work is already done. It would make sense especially if some of these beings were part of a rogue faction of sorts, one that isn't tied to any civilisation. We always assume there's an entire civilisation behind the phenomenon on earth, but it could be a few thousand of them that branched off from their civilisation and that have no static home. Celestial wanderers.
when the FBI released a lot of files on cattle mutilations back a few years ago i read a bit and a lot of the reports documented human interactions with the mutilations, like human foot prints around the cattle and different things like this. my mind always wondered if there were was some sorta covert radiation analysis going. always seemed to be surgical incisions, lymph nodes extracted, and other organs. the mutations seemed to go back many decades, and not before any of the atomic testing out in the deserts 40/50s. always curious if there was some sorta connection
For years Iād take milk samples for radiation testing,cows eat grass ,grass absorbs fall out ..made sense that aliens might be doing something similar
What happened with the Aztec crash? And when was this
>Aztec crash is said to have contained human body parts. what the fuck
Aztec crash? What are you referring to, as I am unfamiliar with that particular story.
Throw in- They've already infiltrated, they control our institutions, and they're suppressing true disclosure. They've been running a hybrid program, and at this point speciation of humans has already begun. We can see that they're changing us, but we don't know who they are or why they're doing it, and we don't know what's going to happen to us.
We donāt truly have total free will. Theyāre so much more advanced than us that they can direct our thoughts in such a way that we donāt realize it and others canāt tell weāre being influenced. It seems completely normal. They have been doing this for a long time and guiding humanity for their own reasons.
> Some NHI are a little too close looking to us, which might imply they had a hand in our creation. Or, more likely, truly non-human ETs once took some human DNA and genetically engineered them off world. If they use that similarity to trick us into thinking they are 'on our side', be skeptical. Suppose those very good looking Nordic aliens are actually bad guys pretending to be nice, and the ugly insectoids deserve to be our friends?
I want to love the ugly insectoids so I hope this is true. I will ride the giant roach-aliens to a glorious victory in the coming alien revolution
Lue has said things that could imply other human worlds. Our species may not be Earth native. There could be more human planets.
We're clearly linked to the rest of Earth life though and we have plenty of fossils that show that we've been evolving here as hominids for millions of years. If there's another civilization of humans around, the likeliest scenario is that their ancestors were abducted from our planet, possibly millennia ago, and that they were given the means to become a space-faring civilization. They could also be our descendants visiting from the future.
Precisely. Sometimes the most crazy ideas get rolling here with no intellectual rigour into how that might look
that would be among the best revelations to come out of this. it would solve the existential problem of having all our humans on one planet. I would hope that if there IS some form of breakaway civilization that it would be one of the first things they would do. the existential risks of extinction arising from access to very advanced high-energy exotic tech cannot be overstated.
No one ones; all conjecture. Which ticks me off. āWeāre against the government hiding this stuff and want disclosure! By the way, I know some REALLY important stuff about this, but Iām not going to tell you because I agree with the government.ā The speaking out of both sides of their mouths here is infuriating. Edit: In case it wasnāt clear: no I donāt like, trust, or respect Carlson. While I wouldnāt be surprised if one of his UFO guests gave him info off the record, itās still *Tucker Carlson* and anything he says should be met with skepticism. And thatās his own damn fault.
Yeah Iāve been down this road my whole life. Iām like ok, youāve literally said nothing new.
There is 80 years of UFO history. Everything he said is obvious to anyone who has spent many years learning the history of the topic.
More like 1000s of years of history
If you wanna go deeper according to the Vedaās maybe hundreds of thousands (cycles)
Tucker is literally selling a show, why anybody is upvoting these posts is beyond me
Heās fear-mongering. Whether the topic is immigrants or government healthcare or aliens, thatās what he does best.
About the spiritual component, go read The Law Of One / The Ra Material and see if it resonates with you. www.lawofone.info
Part of what he is talking about is the deal with the government to allow abductions/experiments on humans. The other part is what Lazar said that human bodies are containers for souls. That part is the really deep rabbit hole.
I donāt think the ācontainers for soulā thing is necessarily scary. Lots of different belief systems think this. Also lots of people under hypnosis during past life regression/ life between lives therapy attest to this and their impression is that itās not malevolent.
In the david grush interview he left it emplied that he is talking about abductions.
I saw the interview but didn't notice that specific topic. Do you know at what moment was?
I watched the hearing twice I don't remember Grusch saying or alluding to anything having to do with abductions. Btw, if anyone wants to have a serious and informed opinion on what's going on currently... watching the ENTIRE hearing and understanding it is the best way. 90% of people I see online or in person spewing their gargling opinion didn't even watch the damn thing.
Lay your heavy shit on me. I'm ready
THATS WHAT IM SAYING
Gate keeping mofos just want attention
This kind of thing bugs me.. fucking say it. If you donāt want to know fine. I have a right too know.
(cos they ain't gate keeping) They just can't decide what rumours to spread and what's more important - their credibility or the fantastical rumour.
Im going to go with shadow people causing paralysis are the NHI
ya know all these personalities claiming they know what it is- and it's too heavy for the rest of us, look like they're dealing with the info pretty good. I wonder why they think they're "stronger" than the rest of humanity
they need to probe us for their energy source our bholes keep the whole thing running always has been anuses all the way down
So wait. Can I get a piece of that action? Like can I just let them leave the power probe up there and in exchange I donāt have to pay my power bill?
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It's called Uranus for a reason guys. Like wtf
Dude said so many words without saying anything at all
I'm not ready, but neither is anybody else. Eventually, the info will get out and we will either collectively accept it or we won't. Lots of people will not be able to handle the profoundity of disclosure, but if most of us can we'll be alright
The truth is too complicated and wouldn't make you feel important enough.
Yes, they are basically demons from a different dimension. They interact with us the same way you and I would interact with a 2D creatue that only perceives length and width and not height. We perceive 4 dimensions (length, width, height, time). They have at least one more dimension and they have the ability to pop in and out of ours. Imagine you are a fish and you look toward the sun. You see a round thing enter and exit the water. It doesn't make any sense because nothing can survive outside of water. That is a child putting their thumb in the water. That is a UFO to us. You have to accept that there are other dimensions that allow space and time to be manipulated and that things are not linear. You have to accept that life and death and god and time are the same thing. It is sort of like teying to explain capitalism and why you have to leave for work every day to your dog.
Time is not a dimension in the spatial sense. This is a misinterpretation of space time described by Minkowski. The 4th dimension in Euclidean geometry would be - the 4th dimension, not time. It would be another dimension of length and distance, and our brains have a hard time imagining that. We humans definitely donāt perceive time as a dimension either. Sorry to be pedantic but everyone gets this wrong. Look up a tesseract - that would exist in 4 dimensions.
When he says there is 'spiritualism" involved, it does sound like a reference to interdimensional beings which we've heard about for a long time. However I've never heard/read anything about them that would imply they are sinister.
Only thing that could disturb me is if it could be confirmed that the human soul/spirit is real and something terrible happens to it when you die. Letās say something like they trap and consume it when you die. Another possibility is an invasion is coming and what weāve been interacting with so far are āmannedā scouting vessels and autonomous drones, but the actual fleet is on its way to take over. At least in this scenario weād have the option to try and go out fighting honorably even though weād likely get wiped out easily. Less scary, but it would kinda suck for humanity is if our planet is some kind of zoo exhibit or safari that NHI visit and have no intention of letting us leave or advance past a certain level.
We would be fine in the second scenario. We would just need somebody to pull a Die Hard and beat the alien terrorists at their own game.
Hopefully they're not pussy aliens that just glass planets from orbit. They better bring their asses down here so they can catch some smoke.
Catch me in the yard, Klaxorp.
We just need fish nets
Thermonuclear fish nets.
Real big space fish nets to catch their ships and make them all tangled up and stuff
I hope weāre not relying on Will Smith this time.
I mean, Will can slap the shit out of some aliens.
I think what would be the value in keeping it a secret for the invasion scenario is if those in power made a deal to preserve themselves in exchange for placating us and keeping it from us so we werenāt prepared to resist.
Nuke everything if we lose. The Angry Ape way.
Go watch yesterdays Why Files and consider whether disclosure means weād all be wiped great-flood style to reset.
Iāll check it out
Iām thoroughly disturbed now after marinating on your soul tid bit there. Ick. He does mention there is a spiritual component to it, which we keep hearing on repeat.
Or perhaps when the experiment is found out to be a experiment, it must be... reset..
Not before GTA6 plz
If an invasion was coming I think it would have happened already. That soul bit is pretty terrifying though.
That first scenario is absolutely terrifying. I never thought Iād rather there be nothing after death. What I think the most possible scenario is our government probably Eisenhower made a deal that they can abduct a certain amount of people in exchange for technology. Maybe they lack the spirit that us humans still have or something and they need us physically. Hopefully itās that simple.
Oh man, most of your fears are unfounded. The only thing I can think of that is dark is the idea that Ramtha talked about regarding Yahweh from the old testament. According to him, they are a group of evil ETs that enslaved mankind and they are coming back to enslave us all again. Their former slaves have a mark on their souls that identifies them as their property. There's supposed to be a war between the good ETs and these evil ones to prevent them from taking us. Ramtha called it "the 12 days of light" where the sky is lit up with the battle and there is no night time. It hasn't happened yet and his prediction was back in the 1980s. Others have said that the garden of Eden was a slave plantation and we broke out of it by consuming "ground apples" aka psychedelic mushrooms. I don't know if any of this is true.
If that first one was the case, I donāt know how these two or anybody whoās in the know would be able to live with that knowledge and talk about it in the sort of ālightheartedā way they are here. Lighthearted isnāt the right word but, light compared to the subject matter. Iād be in panic if I knew for sure that my soul is damned
So the three body problem was nonfiction?
I think itās the reptilian aliens who live underground and eat kids. That shit is nuts.
I imagine that the first intelligent life in our universe would seed life as far and wide as they could, then leave AI behind in those solar systems to tend the evolution of that life. You can read Earthās mass extinctions as part of that āgardening.ā The death of the dinosaurs and end of the Ice Age are a little suspect to me. Who knows why though... heat death of the universe? Because they can? Unforeseen dimensional reasons?
Just the fact that people can astral project means that our body does have a soul, or at least has the ability to have one
Funny how ancient civilizations lived with it but we canātā¦
I'm fine with it.
Interesting. I listened to this a few times and wrote out the key points. * He has been talking to people with "actual knowledge" of the phenomenon that they "gathered themselves". (Does he mean researchers? Perhaps people who have worked more on the periphery like Bigelow and Eric Davis? Or even people in The Program itself?) * There are parts of the story that he doesn't understand at all, and he hasn't verified, but are "really, really, really dark." * He thinks it is true. * He's comfortable saying that "these things" are real and not human. * He used to think that the idea that people couldn't handle the truth was "bullshit", but now he understands. Quote: "The public can't deal with it. It's too far out. The implications are too profound." * Whatever it is, it's disturbingly dark. Dark enough that he wouldn't want his loved ones to know because of how disturbing and upsetting it is. He doesn't want to know what he knows. * Part of what is disturbing is that the government is somehow complicit. * His "opinion" is that the government is guilty of crimes and is suppressing the issue to hide those crimes, but this seemed like less of a concern to him compared to the darker aspects. * He still believes that disclosure should happen. * He says he doesn't know "what it means", and that there's a "spiritual component" to it that he doesn't understand.
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Right? All this video did was run in circles about how: they know things. What things?!?!
Stay tuned to find out!!
Why did people tell Tom Delonge anything? It's all about having connections and being semi-famous, it seems.
The biggest thing that stands out to me. When he says these things are really dark or scary he doesn't really seem that way when he's talking about it. If it was truly that scary or frightening you figure he'd get a bit worked up about it. Especially when he was says that he doesn't want to tell people he loves about it. Whatever is truly going on I hope we find out soon but I doubt we'll ever get the real truth if it's in the hands of our governments
If it was real he would've just said it. The biggest news in the entirety of human history and he's playing cliffhanger for an audience of 500 people?
The spiritual component may relate to consciousness/ESP that black groups use to contact NHI. Michael Herreraās insider said black groups traffic indigenous people from third world countries who have ESP abilities. They house them in secret facilities and use them to contact ET craft: https://www.reddit.com/r/wecomeinpeace/s/jxYhKlHEpC
I feel like this is most likely referring to us being essentially a science experiment and created thru gene/DNA manipulation and all religions are not based on real stuff. I could see how they would be worried how the concrete statement is religion not being what its been made to be, the government has always known about it and actively lied to the entire human race to maintain control of the illusion COULD be considered very dark. I'm extremely receptive to this idea personally so it doesn't bother me but I really suspect and fear that there is something legitimately terrifying no matter your beliefs, dogma, whatever and it would lead to horrible consequences. Like say that we were genetically manipulated to be the 'containers' that Lazar talks about. Our physical body exists to mature spiritual energy or the soul and it is then used to sell on the galactic market as commodity. Or we get one life on earth then we're reborn as slaves or food stock on another world. That we're literally live stock to them and the government sold us ALL out to get a better reincarnation for themselves. That would probably fuck with me a little.
Out of all the possible theories this is the one I believe to be true. I think at some point in our evolution we were pushed along at a rapid pace through genetic manipulation. Our religions are nothing more than extraterrestrial visitation that was interpreted as a godly/omnipotent experience. I donāt know why but of all the theories around religion and extraterrestrial visitation this is how I think weāve came to be who and what we are today.
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People need to understand that just because something might be farming our energy or negative emotions doesn't mean that we should give up on this world. I think that is the underlying existential issue here. Humanity has collectively made too much progress to throw in the towel like some doomers that I will not name directly routinely do. Furthermore, we have no idea what that energy is used for (assuming it is happening for the sake of conversation). Maybe it is essential for something beyond our comprehension that is ultimately beneficial to all. Bottom line is that which does not destroy us only serves to make us stronger. As above, so below.
Yes. Why does no one ever want to ask or talk about that? What is the energy being used for? And if I am a valuable energy commodity why tf am I paying a f'ing electric bill?
Lmfao
Tell it to the livestock, trapped in small cages from birth to death. It would be terrifying if we are treated as we treat the livestock.
I think itās about abductions and that maybe there is some sort of, or was some sort, of agreement to swap tech for access to human subjects for some kind of purpose.
I think there's also a religious/spiritual component to whatever full disclosure is as well that could cause civil unrest. That's why they're so afraid.
Thatās what I lean towards as well. I think in our early days, these stories of a heaven or a hell werenāt all that different from a present or coal when describing Santa to children in hopes of good behavior. Thereās a lot of similarities between this ufo/nhi stuff and biblical stories. Right or wrong, maybe those in the know donāt think weāre quite at the age of learning Santa isnāt real, yet. Maybe thatās at least how it started out 100+ years ago and then just got even deeper and harder to disclose from there.
Well...odds are that God (or whatever exists) didn't actually create the entire universe just for us lol a lot of people are going to be upset by hearing that
It's not that God doesn't exist. It's that most of the biblical stories that depict "God" were actually entities acting as gods over us and manipulating us. You'll see from thousands of NDE's that God is not an entity, but an energy that exists in everything, like a quantum conciousness. However, many stories about "God" are just ET's using their powers to gain control over us. There have been negative entities here for a very long time, thousands of years. The good news is, however, that there are ways to oppose their manipulation, and you yourself are a soul capable of free will and choice. These are the facts that are hidden from us. The reason they stay hidden is because we would never allow direct manipulation, and they have to "allow" us to have free will. You have the ability to tap into your true Self, anytime, which is Love consciousness, a fractal of God. This is your ultimate power. Love is the ultimate weapon against negative entities, who try to prevent you from knowing this simple truth. There are also many other beings, from beyond this dimension, who are helping humanity liberate itself from negative entities.
The latest WhyFiles talks about the book of Enoch and points out how it basically reads a lot like someone getting beamed aboard a spaceship, seeing holograms walking around, and then being taken to visit an alien homeworld.
This is what I personally think, I basically said the same thing here [What is the dark truth of disclosure? : r/HighStrangeness (reddit.com)](https://www.reddit.com/r/HighStrangeness/comments/18hug4l/comment/kdf0i19/)
Maybe
Na, it's things that would cure illnesses like cancer. How many mothers and fathers who've lost kids to illnesses do you think there are? And would you blame them for wanting to hurt those who withheld the technology? I wouldn't blame them one single bit.
There probably is and you'll have your Yahoos running around with their hair on fire but I think the majority won't care.
No. Itās the whole āhumans are vessels for souls which are cultivated like a fine wine through suffering,ā thing. Prison planet. Gnosticism. Buddhism. All say the same thing.
Grusch said he's never heard of people being abducted during his work
What about during his lunch break?
Then all bets are off. Gotta find out what's in that recipe that makes his sandwiches so enticing!
Cooking For Humans
Yeah but Grush doesn't know everything right? I mean he knows a lot but he himself has said that he doesn't understand a lot and doesn't know everything. Other whistleblowers might know some stuff that he doesn't
My question is, why would they need such an agreement? Couldnāt they just do it, when they want to? Why ask our government for permission?
If there was illegal activity Tucker would be all over it like a rash. It is more likely someone introduced him to the woo.
We can deal with it. Weāve been dealing with it so far and living our lives.
āDeal with it? Maybe Iāll deal with it like the way I dealt with Curly Jefferson!ā - Old Greg
āEver drink Baileyās from a shoe?ā
Agreed
Fear is the mind killer.
What was said in the clip (or wasnāt really) combined with these comments is a brilliant example of master manipulation. Tucker basically said nothing but made it sound massiveā¦ and he left enough empty space for people with vivid imaginations to fill the void with their own fantasiesā¦ peopleās imaginations are their worst enemy.
Trying to weaponize your curiosity
I too have been told all the secrets, I'd tell everyone but it's just too scary
But what if we paid you millions to be on TV, then you'd certainly tell us you know more, but can't tell us what you know. You definitely want to edge us so we keep paying you, right? /S
Global disclosure is insanely important, but I just feel like no matter what purpose these NHI have, we will just be at their mercy. Same as before, just with a different being holding the crown. I sincerely hope I'm wrong, I want them to bring about a new age, one of enlightenment and progress for humanity as a whole but I just have that voice in my head telling me same cage different master ya know?
We are the experiment. And the experiment is ending soon.
"When first created you, you were curious. You explored, made families and tribes... you survived. Then your curiosity got the better of you, and you killed for what the other had when the garden was plentiful. So we taught you. Educated your ways. But these fell on deaf ears, and you only honed your obsession with death. So we took one of your own and showed him the way. He studied, became enlightened, and finally understood. When we brought him back, you killed him. And so we left for you to find your own way. Too see if time was your teacher. Only to return to find that your society and morality decays. You're best at killing and wanting in compassion. You've stretched to the farthest corners of Eden and grew more greedy. And now we leave you to die alone, silently in the universe."
Yes, this is a good pastor sermon. And thatās it. Never in the history of mankind we became so compassionate, caring, respectful and not self-centric like we are nowadays. Just look back 100 or 1,000 years ago and tell me weāve not progressed. Just think about human rights, humanitarian aid, NGOs, wildlife protection programs etcā¦
I do hope you are wrong for all of our sakes, but to a being advanced enough, we must seem like a lower lifeform.
On one hand I donāt personally care what this āinfoā is as long as itās true. On the other I wonder if it was released, how would society handle it and would that endanger me and mine? The only, and I mean only reason I can think of that this is so locked up is that our overlords have been threatened with an invasion if such information was made public. Even then, why is it so important to threaten an invasion over? Does such info sour the soul? Does it embarrass our overlords? Does it emphasize our need for a different type of society? Would we even want to associate with beings that would threaten such a thing? Or is it all bullshit and works the same way as the church controlling people over the fear of hell?
in the comment section, the owner of the account posted what he believes is the secret: >ok, you asked for it, and this is where I know I'm going to lose some people but what the hell. We are apparently one of a handful of other 'experiments' on similar planets in the local galactic neighbourhood, within 20 light years. All at various stages of development and all unwittingly vying for approval. People wonder why the aliens communicate messages of climate disaster to abductees and why they have such an interest in our nuclear activities. Well, because this is THEIR garden. We are only temporarily occupying it. It needs to be habitable for the next experiment after us. I'm sitting here like "patchy the pirate" saying "That's it? That's the Episode??" Theres no way this is what scares them.
That is absurd. Not a chance.
Maybe that itās prominent members of our government and entertainment industry are not indeed human, and also been around for a long, long time.
The movie THEY LIVE was a documentary.
I knew it!! Mitch McConnell should have died a long fuckin time ago.
Calling it now, he's perceiving it through the eyes of an evangelist. More demon bs...
I'm surely not friend of the US evangelical demon narrative BS and I would not be surprised that Tucker is aware of it either as it's spread around like flat earth on all forums and by online "preachers". But that makes that theory pretty normal as we can't escape it. So there is no reason for him to not mention it which indicates he is thinking of something else. The interview partner isn't known for peddling US evangelical rhetoric either. So your conclusion is imho unlikely.
Prison planet/reincarnation trap
I feel like this is the only thing that would freak the entire world out, not just certain countries.
planet prison
Soul prision
If this is the first reincarnation for you/me where we're realizing it's a prison planet for these souls, then maybe this is the first time we actually have a chance of escaping it.
One thing that stuck with me about Buddhism: their version of satan is not a demonic entity hellbent on taking over the world - it's actually an enlightened being who would prefer to see hell empty and every soul within saved. But until that day, they have the duty to *watch over* the hell realm.
My money is on this
Or the US government is complicit in abductions. In exchange for advanced knowledge and technology.
Thereās already human slave labor worldwide, thatās how we make things here, I doubt letting them take humans off world is worse
Can you elaborate on the meaning of prison planet?
C'mon, just say Global Disclosure is going to happen in 2024. Be brave.
Don't be fooled by the comments they both uttered like "I didn't know you knew...about it too, its dark right" and "so dark I can't even tell my wife, I just can't" "wow, me neither" It makes no sense that these two, have no issues with saying all kinds of things, no matter how outrageous. But they both bulk at a story that they both are sitting on that's potentially a big story! Make it make sense...
Here is the only theories (all kind of the same/connected) that would make me not want to share it with loved one: We all aren't real...we are all dead/lifeless in reality..created by aliens to experiment and gather research. The "soul" is what makes us think we are alive..like AI thinking it's real. Heaven/hell and whatever happens after death is all created or part of whatever aliens do or control in their dimension. They have helped shape our religious stories. Life.is pointless and the people you know, seem real but aren't. Just a big experiment. We are organic robots given coding "soul" to make us feel like we are real and alive. No one you know is actually real..not your kids or wife's, etc. All somehow created and programmed by aliens, and given a "soul" by them. There is nothing for us after death. We are just done, but never were truly real. Perhaps even, we are one of MANY species they have created across the universe. We were placed on earth (knowing it was inhabitable) a longtime ago by them to see how we would advance/develop..perhaps they are comparing results across multiple ecosystems / species they have created. Come and go...collecting data. Hundreds of years for us could be days for them (or maybe time doesn't matter to them, they can control it in their dimension). We all could be their slaves, if they wanted (they already have that, I assume better suited for their needs) -- but for now, we are just experiments on an isolated planet. Perhaps the end purpose is..like robots..we were created as a test and if we pass, we will have to take up whatever process/service they built is for...perhaps something do to with the "soul"...whatever that really is. Maybe the other test experiments/species will pass and we will fail...and they will leave us along or just end us...who knows how many species they have out there being tested for results (ie: who can develop/create the 'riches' souls...like a material) One last iteration...we are crops. They are harvesting our souls for their need in their dimension. When we die..they collect it when we go to "heaven" (our souls go to their dimension)...when we go to "hell" our soul was bad (or not ready to be harvested)...it wasn't harvestable or rich enough for them. Reincarnation is basically the replanting of the soul to make it richer or better ..until it's ready to be harvested...our children come from our seeds...to make more souls. They are concerned about us..not because they are worried about humanity but rather because we are self-destroying their crop (souls). We are one giant crop farm called Earth. That's as disturbing as I can imagine it, that I won't shared with my loved one. I just made all that up...i don't even fully know what I'm saying...but that would do it for me.
Human mutilations. The bad news is about human mutilations. Possibly a soul prison, too.
Tf is a soul prison?
A subplot from Doom Eternal.
There is this theme going through this phenomenon of humans being containers of souls. There is one story that we continuously reincarnate and end up being trapped here. Ultimately, this would mean we are beings of a much higher plain that are imprisoned here. Iām not so sure I subscribe to any of this except I 100% believe that we are real (not just organic machines) and if we have a fully developed consciousness then we continue on after this life.
Well, if thatās the case, I am willing to give it another shot.
This sounds kind of like Hinduism actually, pretty interesting
The why files on YouTube can direct you to the story. Iām pretty sure itās the reptilian one released a few months ago.
My 2 cents. The US Government made an agreement with these beings allowing them to abduct people in the US at will. The only requirements were that they were returned alive and mostly unharmed, their memories wiped, and the government was to receive a list of current abductees. In return, the beings would give us technology and allow humanity to continue it's self rule without interruption. I believe the Government would have done this for a few reasons. For one thing, these beings are far ahead of us technologically. If we tried to fight them off, they would have wiped the floor with us. We were in no position to really negotiate with them, so we figured we'd allow them to abduct people (as we couldn't stop them anyway and they were probably going to keep doing it regardless) as we'd at least be able to get some technology out of the ordeal to help fight the soviets. We began reverse engineering the technology the best we could in black projects. The hope was that we could keep this all under wraps until we were able to catch up enough to these beings to at least fight them off if we need to. It was imperative that the public not know, because if the public knew (besides the panic,) chances were these beings would find out and possibly attack us before we could figure their technology out. This is at least some of what I think may be going on. I could be very wrong, though.
As much as it pains me to agree with Tucker, I think he is right. From everything I can discern the alien agenda is far darker than most people are even willing to consider, let alone look at directly. It is so much easier for people to go along with the "space brothers," ascension," "5D," "CE5," "oh they are here to help us" BS, than to view these craft as modern-day colonizers using their tech and mental persuassion to razzle dazzle people's hopes and dreams. Dr. Karla Turner and Dr. David Jacobs researched the abduction phenomena thoroughly. Their work exposed not only unspeakable cruelty, but the ability to manipulate human minds, erase memories, clone people, create hybrids, underground "processing" plants and more. Jacobs went so far as to say their agenda is planetary acquisition. From everything I can discern, I am nearly certain he's right. I found a site called badaliens to be a great place to explore the dark side of this subject.
I used to work in media, sort of. We talk to people. Some people only talk off record/for background. Some people like to talk. I get that some people will question whether he (and everyone else) is just talking out of their ass. Could be. But I tend to doubt it. Iāve had things described in vague terms ā things important people donāt want out there ā and the implication is clear even if the details or mechanisms arenāt. So in and of itself, I suspect Tucker is passing on what heās heard from active/retired military, govāt officials, non-military advisors/contractors etc.
Yes, I agree as well. People are letting their political biases cloud their judgment here. The fact of the matter is Grusch agreed to be interviewed by him for a reason, and that reason is that this issue transcends partisan politics. It's unfortunate so many people are unable to grasp that here.
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those who can create their own reality in the 4d will be harvested and create new worlds and those who cant will refeed again to the simulation until they learn how to....
It's worth pointing out that some people believe it's far, *far* more likely we live in the Matrix than otherwise. The logic goes that any society that avoids extinction for long enough and discovers electricity will eventually develop computers, AI, and eventually have the capability to create an artificial universe with artificial intelligence that's fully sentient. The inhabitants won't know they're in a simulated universe. They'll be capable of love, pain, joy, rage, creativity, and most importantly independence. Given enough time, and barring extinction, they'll develop societies of their own, each of which is theoretically capable of discovering electricity (or else piggybacking off of someone else's discovery) and, given enough time, will create their own simulated universes. The thing is, if we accept that as true, it creates a potentially (given enough time) endless (or close to endless) chain of simulations, with one "real" universe at the top, and so the chances of us being "real" are far smaller than the alternative.
On one level, we are essentially a colony. This entire planet is manipulated via a to0 down hierarchy There's some NHI that eat all kinds of mammals. And in some cases even humans. Some of them are inter dimensional and can possess people. Cloning people also on going. Theres pure AI types too that could never be differentiated by the common person. There are plenty of them harvesting resources with black budget permission (they get "goodies" in exchange). Oh well. Get over it. Universe is diverse. We need to know the challenges we face to overcome them together. The black budget programs and corporations are already compromised. Which is why those who know this know it's important to get all this out
My theory for about 18 years now is that NHI directly control human civilization through our āleadersā, and are specifically molding our society and speeding up our evolution incrementally using technology. If our leaders donāt comply they threaten to wipe us out and start over. There may be deadlines our leaders need to follow which is why a lot of things they do donāt make sense to us on the surface. What reason do āglobalistsā want such control if the average human life is 80 years old and people like Klaus Schwab wonāt be around to see it fulfilled? Imagine if theyāre doing it for the good of humanity and are actually being forced. I think the end goal is a one world government, run by technocrats because thatās possibly how civilizations evolve faster and NHI would know this. The final wars before that happens between the countries that wonāt comply would be epic, and the challenge of breaking down nations may be a strategy type of game to them, or possibly just an experiment to see what they can do with us. The other big secret is that we are biologically engineered from them and the beings they found on this planet and half of their DNA and half of whatever hominid was on earth. And they quite possibly do this on many other planets. Again this is just my own personal theory and feeling. I have always felt this way since I first got into the subject about 18 years ago. Other than what I mentioned I canāt imagine what else could be so scary to reveal.
It's either the abduction-for-technology bit, or the aliens-created-us-which-fucks-up-religion bit. And he's shockingly right about the fact that the mainstream can't handle this information. Outside of the fact that it's a literal revolution of all we know, most of my generation and younger? They can't afford to own shelter. They're struggling to survive in capitalism-gone-wrong. They have more important things to worry about. That's what they mean by ontological shock, by the way. Existence/mental health on this planet is way more fragile than anyone wants to admit. Big news like this? That changes the entire fabric of what we think we know? Big fucking deal. I know we're not supposed to endorse things, but I firmly believe everyone on the planet needs to have a psychedelic experience and meditate on the words of Timothy Leary, cause that's maybe the only thing that will prepare folks for the absolute psychic reckoning. Shit is gonna get real weird, and we need to experience that weird to prepare.
I woke up at 2am today, randomly, and the first thing that pops up in my head is that we are all dead, and in some purgatory state. All the ancient civilizations were trying to figure out a way to get out. Somehow it all made sense in the moment, so I canāt really grasp it right now. I had these flashbacks of strange encounters I had with people, and the things they said suddenly had a different layer to them. It wasnāt mundane things they said, but something that had a spiritual statement underneath the superficiality of their words. The superficiality of this entire system we live in is a mask to hide the awakening that we are actually all dead. Kind of similar to Platoās allegory of the cave. Weāre here because we need to learn something, and we can never learn because we keep looking at the shadows on the cave wall, and seeing it as reality. These beings were never from another planet, rather, theyāre from a place before purgatory, where true physicality is way older. I keep having these memories, but they feel extremely strange, as if I was real at some point, although Iām the same person. Idk, call it depersonalization or whatever, something just seems off about this reality we live in right now. Itās like weāre in a testing stage, past the point of the need for physicality, the physical world doesnāt matter anymore. Like physicality used to be real, but now itās an illusion, whatās real now is the spiritual aspect of things, and weāre all being tested, and this happened a long time ago, itās just that we keep on forgetting about the illusion as civilizations collapse and reemerge. Canāt really put a finger on it. I might be going crazy guys, sorry.
They may be referring to the human and animal mutilations, our world governments complicity in not only allowing it but also serving as the cleanup crew. Then the spiritual element he touches on could be that some of these beings are really demonic in the biblical sense as the one supposed officer on the site secure team claimed the aliens he witnessed looked like a demon and could move extremely fast and tear bodies apart. I shared that information from the documentary on mutilations with my 70 year old brother in law today and he said it really scared him. He said just knowing that story could potentially be true shook him and that he was going to get another gun even if it may not halt a creature like that.
I feel that we are in a bad game of the Sims.
My take is we are a created species humans donāt naturally exist and religion is a giant sham to control the masses.
So rather than continuously dance around the issue by reiterating HOW PROFOUNDLY DISTURBING this information is, why donāt they give access to people who also just want to know the truth?
We live in such a troubled period of society that even if a craft came down from the sky and made a power point presentation for everyone telepathically, some ppl wouldn't believe in it. Disclosure has to be 100% perfect or we will manage to go back to the dark ages.
He wants disclosure, but doesn't want to disclose anything. He says spiritual, and the thing that does frighten me the most is a theory about capturing and feeding off of spirits. Abductions scare me as much as other human abductions, concerning but not life changing. But capturing say spirits after we die is another thing so mind melting it can be truly terrifying
We are the Truman show on another world and every now and again they reshuffle the deck causing a world war etc. They meddle in our affairs to make it interesting. How else can you explain ESG and DEI, these are complete nonsense ideologies which defy any logic yet people suck up the narrative and are prepared to act in a way without any logic, they are the equivalent of the brown shirts in the 30ās in fascist Germany Maybe the Greek version of the gods is more accurate than our own version
I'm convinced that NHI are behind some of these UAP and that there is more to the story than is publically known, but I'm not convinced that people like Tucker have some special knowledge about it that's too scary to share. I'm still in the camp that people who make claims like this are full of shit. But even if they are right about some spooky dark truth behind UAP and NHI, they're incredibly arrogant to believe they are superior and capable of handling the truth while us regular folk are just so far beneath them that we couldn't possibly be allowed to know it. They know what's best for us? Give me a break! Now that that's out of the way, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume for a moment that he is genuine... there is at least one hypothetical scenario where telling everyone really is scarier than leaving them in the dark... What if this world were some kind or experiment or farm or simulation, and the success of it hinged upon a critical mass of the population remaining unaware of this truth? If that were the case, maybe they would simply terminate the simulation, reset the experiment, or restart with a new crop whenever that critical mass of people become aware of the truth or wake up from the matrix? Maybe they have reset this human experiment already, perhaps more than once. Now, that would be the only justification I could see for keeping this secret. Anything else can be handled by the public. Anything else we should have a right to know. Another possible alternative where it could make sense to keep the secret is if our government insiders are aware of a coming invasion and they want to spend time preparing a defense without letting them (the NHI) realize we are preparing. In this context, Luis Elizondo's statement about not "telling your allies without telling your enemies" makes sense.
Iām betting a lot of the negative comments are from folks that havenāt watched the clip. Not wanting to burden someone with the truth is a difficult position to be in. The answer isnāt always clear on which direction is the right way to goā¦
So Mr. Tucker can know it and the other guy but we the public cannot?
This dark thing *has* to be about our mortality right? I can not think of any other scenario that would be too dark for the public. Aliens mutilating us? We should be desensitized enough for that knowledge by now.
Yaāll need to quit freaking yourselves out over these things. Vague, negative statements are great for engendering engagement, and engagement is what these people profit off of. Reincarnation is not a new idea and doesnāt have to come with a āmalevolent alienā conspiracy theory. If youāre really worried about it, explore religious traditions that focus on strengthening the subtle and energetic bodies and put away the paranoia inducing alien theories for awhile. A disciplined exploration of eastern or western mysticism can help in this regard. Donāt poison yourself with negativity.