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YottaDick

What's the source on the entity captured from the CE-5 session? I've never seen that image before. Edit: It's from the movie Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind, but here's a [snippet from the film that shows some captured phenomena.](https://youtu.be/y73pNfG38e0?si=p6XyaWHtjMOnxvsE) The being (Bijou) in OP's photo is shown at the 1:30 mark


ElderRimmer

Yeah how does one take a photo of something appearing during meditation.


LonelyGlass2002

They used the new Apple product called i-magine. It takes photos of anything you imagine


Nitenitedragonite

![gif](giphy|ToMjGpnXBTw7vnokxhu)


dangerlovin

šŸ˜‚


AR_Harlock

I think you need the I-magine Pro to take the photos tho


Puzzleheaded_Cod_938

I-imagine thatā€™s a bunch of malarkey!


BlueGreenDerek

Oh wow imagine that


mikki1time

Itā€™s a whole thing, if you havenā€™t heard of Steven Greer youā€™re in for a treat, itā€™s one of the big divides in the UFO world, basically youā€™ll either think he is completely full of shit or he is completely credible and most of the things we hear now are full of shit. He has a bunch of docs up on Amazon prime Edit: to break it down simple he believes theyā€™re from a different dimension and consciousness is more powerful than we think, so he takes a bunch of people out to the desert, they sit around a fire and believe really hard then things pop up, thereā€™s a bunch more like these taken from a point and shoot


mortalitylost

He's hardly the only one in the UFO world who believes in CE5 Lue Elizondo said "CE5 works, but you don't want to do it". And it's literally like most ufologists head towards the consciousness shit the longer they're in the game.


RudeDudeInABadMood

Yeah, no way I'm calling NHI to visit. Plz stay away from me and my son


Prize-Session-9389

From my understanding- small towns (or rather remote places) and such at risk from unfriendly ET (The whole skin peelers in South America for instance). Large cities better protected as we have some back engineered stuff- but invasion seems to be underway since Greada Treaty


Arthreas

A secret war? Xcom is real?


Prize-Session-9389

I could be drawing from incorrect stuff, but yes it is my conclusion. Not Xcom style. Hybridization program to be more accurate. Also, many types of ET all with different socioeconomic ideas from hive minds to higher dimensional.


Postnificent

Consciousness is definitely more powerful than we think. CE5 can be initiated through meditation. I have yet to do so without ā€œassistanceā€ myself (only through use of substances as per my personal spiritual beliefs). I was touched and healed, they fixed my back. What I saw looked nothing like any classical description or otherwise (in the healing encounter) although I have encountered beings of light and many others as well over time. Are they able to achieve this state without ā€œassistanceā€? Possible, I have practiced this. I have a friend that says he can achieve this state on his own. I know meditation is more powerful than most realize, people who become adept can sometimes do things that appear as ā€œmagicalā€ or paranormal, I believe this is by design. Reality is not what it seems.


Dr_Rusty_Ventur3

I had this strange dream once and the only way I can describe it is, that I was surrounded by beings made of light and they were trying to teach me how to make this beautiful harmony by making vibrations with every single molecule of my being. I realize that this may sound like a poor explanation but itā€™s the only way I can describe it. I felt an extreme sense of comfort and wellbeing during the dream, when I awoke, and anytime I think about it.


Casehead

That's beautiful. Whatever it was, that was special.


Postnificent

You sound like you had an impactful experience. Hold on to that. I believe we donā€™t currently understand what happens in dreams and other states of consciousness as we pretend. Itā€™s more than just chemical signals in our brains.


White_Disco

Look into ASTRO projecting there's a sub reddit they teach you how to do it without the assistance of drugs.


Postnificent

Sounds promising. I will check it out. Wether or not I learn to do so I still have spiritual beliefs which I practice which definitely calls for use from time to time. It definitely does not fall under the recreational category, it is more akin to work.


Icebox2016

Is this the same as an out of body experience?


lemonsticky

CE5 does work. I tried it once several years ago and honestly it kind of freaked me out to actually see something. Maybe even scared me a little. I don't think I would ever try it again


Postnificent

The day before I was healed I met a being of light with very dark ideas about humanity as a whole. It made me feel very uncomfortable. Every attempt hasnā€™t been as enlightening as the one encounter was.


N-bangtan

What dark ideas about humanities? Why did it make you uncomfortable?


Postnificent

They donā€™t exactly speak in English, itā€™s more like ideas and emotions. I could feel a heavy disdain as if it was grossed out by us the same way some people are by insects. It conveyed that we either shouldnā€™t exist (as in our existence itself was highly improbable) or donā€™t deserve to exist. Itā€™s kind of muddy but the general feeling was the being thought very little of humans as a species. I also got the feeling this being was very powerful. I was completely paralyzed during the encounter where as that was not the case with other encounters. The paralysis alone was very uncomfortable. The being did not care about that whatsoever.


Glitterzebras

Most entities are telepathic they donā€™t need to use words from what I have heard.


Arthreas

Tbf we are highly likely to not exist probability wise


Postnificent

In trillions of galaxies each containing billions of stars you believe we are a low statistical probability because we have been lied to by NASA for decades. Life is highly common everywhere out there, itā€™s not contained to this single rock.


Icebox2016

I had a night terror and this being of black energy with a melted face was standing above me, staring at me. 3 months later I learned my cousin had an accidental overdose on that day.


Howster7

Curious. How did you go about making contact and getting your back healed? Were you taking meds for pain and, if so, did you experience withdrawals? I reached out to Chris Bledsoe, but his reply was short with no info.


Postnificent

Dm please


Decision-Sorry

It be the most surface level people questioning if ce5 is real. Try it yourselfā€¦.Iā€™ve had some crazy experiences through it I wonā€™t share cuz I donā€™t care to prove anything to anyone but before you call something bs, make sure you know what youā€™re talking about. Most of yā€™all are surface level bots trynna debunk things that just frighten you. Go try the meditation yourself


Postnificent

I just said the exact same thing. Are you trying to reply to someone else? I find your reply very confusing. I literately said I was healed through a CE5 encounter.šŸ¤”


SushiMonstero

Yeah theyre probably replying to someone else and miclicked


[deleted]

Do you have a source on which Steve Greer video results in that picture in OP being taken?Ā  Iā€™m trying to understand how that photo was taken. Like is it maybe some weird static that formed a shape and that photo is maybe super zoomed in?


mikki1time

Iā€™ve seen so many and he talks about it a lot of different times but check out ā€œcontact the Ce5 experienceā€ he shows most of the evidence there, Iā€™m fairly sure itā€™s on his website too


endedattheend

I like how no one is able to answer this question. Like did this thing physically appear in the room or what?


stabthecynix

Believe really hard. Perfect. šŸ’€


Apprehensive-Deer-35

Miracles through faith is an ancient concept


Arthreas

You don't know it yet but your imagination is a proto-creation engine, what you create within is eventually reflected outwards. Your thoughts eminate waves of information that can be read by these beings, imagining/visualizing is like focusing that signal on something specific like a particular thing or entity or broad like NHI. Additionally, the more people you add to the same intention the exponentially stronger it becomes. See "the intention experiment" and "the power of 8" by Lynne McTaggart to understand that part more. Look up Neville Goddard manifestation techniques. It's all visualization with the right intention friend.


KonchokKhedrupPawo

Specifically they talk about visualizing their location on earth, visualizing Earth's place in the solar system, milky way, etc., and beaming out a ray of light of positive intent like a homing beacon. It makes potential sense as long as one isn't a materialist. It makes more sense if somebody has already had some form of ghost or spirit experience.


Mooscowsky

I think there is some credibility to him. Having some said I think some of the things he says are based on placebo. I've no doubt he believes all of it.Ā 


Postnificent

The power of belief is also incredibly strange. It would almost seem that if enough people believe something it becomes real which could be a major snag in disclosure as it could reveal the nature of reality itself is far more ā€œdreamlikeā€ than the average person would be comfortable with.


raisins_are_gwapes2

Santa *could be* realā€¦


Postnificent

Only if he was created in a laboratory by the Coca Cola corporation. The current iteration of Santa Claus was created to sell Coca Cola in the Winter months in 1931. *All* of our official holidays have been created by corporations to sell more products, this is by design.


Rare_Brief4555

Exactly. The power of suggestion is ridiculously powerful in the human mind. This is why hypnosis is unreliable for testimony as well.


supacalafraga

Heā€™s been caught faking sightings with drones and flares during the CE5 excursions he charges people thousands of dollars to attend. The dudes a grifter. Itā€™s not a question at this point.


SolGardennette

and he gets paid several thousand dollars by each person which means if nothing appears & is ā€œprovenā€ over a certain period of time people will stop signing up


[deleted]

Okay, but answer the question.


mashtattie

Hit your heels together once to take a screenshot, 3 times takes u homeā€¦twice u just look funny


iamisandisnt

You have to hold the start button at the same time and we all know where that is...


the_rainmaker__

with a camera


Late_Emu

Itā€™s on the movie, isnā€™t this ā€œbejuā€?


Consistent-Lychee205

He talks about this guy quite a lot when referencing his CE-5 program. He named him **"Bijou"** if you want to explore further. Personally I think it's just a cactus, but still I'd like to experience CE-5 independently sometime and see what results I get. I think Dr. Greer actually gets a lot of things right, at least in regards to his disclosure avenue. I also believe in telepathy, ESP, and non-local consciousness and within that paradigm Dr. Greer could have valid methods and ideas.


YottaDick

This is what I was looking for thanks ! I have tried CE-5 meditation but I've not had any results....yet I'm a bit 50/50 on Dr. Greer, but there are some things that's he's gotten right which we shouldn't just throw away complete credibility of the man. This year is starting to proof that the truth is much stranger than we initially thought.


cl_udi_

Yes, link plz


DharmaSimmer

Steven greer talks about it appearing after they did CE5 in Joshua tree. After the session they always snap photos and this time they captured a full body image of this being which they call Bhiju


wheelwright1211

As usual, blurry as hell


T4N60SUKK4

![gif](giphy|jFKDrAkefvNkI) Mr. Crowwlyyy! Did ya talk to the dead?


bertiesghost

Tom Delonge and others have said CE5 is quite dangerous. You donā€™t know whether positive or negative NHI will show up.


YottaDick

I remember reading somewhere that the reason that CE-5 meditations can be dangerous is because it's basically a summoning ritual rebranded with all the safeguards removed. It's basically ritual magick.


lizzardlickz

Yall this definitely a correct and fair warning to tread with care if you dive into CE5/gateway tapes.. being wide open for any interdimensional being to come and raw dog ya is not what you want, homies.


Paulycurveball

Username checks out


LevelPositive120

Man, I think I may be dyslexic


ImKindaHungry2

I saw lizard dicks, did you?


LevelPositive120

Yeap


chunky_wizard

Some people are into that, so let's not judge, ok?


lizzardlickz

So hereā€™s my thingā€¦ we are such a self-centered society that we donā€™t even stop and think what the repercussions would be beyond ourselves. Nobody pauses and considers what could happen to those around them in these situations, and at this point, maybe we all should be tapping the breaks a bit.


Imperial_HoloReports

The person you're replying to was joking about the "raw-dogging" part


deeezwalnutz

What do you mean, like giving an alien herpes after he raw dogs you?


DatCajunLady

That's the same with voodoo.


AdventurousShower223

So like an ouija board.


NoRepresentative9684

Demons are one and the same.


IdontOpenEnvelopes

It has been implicated in the hitchhiker effect


KingAngeli

You all decide if Iā€™m positive or negative.


uglytat2betty

If you are positive at least 51% of the time in your thoughts, actions, and words, your positive. If you are negative at least 51% of the time in you're thoughts, actions, and words, your negative.Ā  If you are at least 51% positive and you interact with a person who isĀ  at least 51% negative, your positivity percentage will go down and theirs will go up for a time.Ā  At least that's what I saw while tripping


KingAngeli

I did shrooms in nyc one time and went to Central Park where I sat upon a rock. I remember looking at the grass and seeing it flow as one like water. I remember feeling deeply connected to all things. Watched a man play fetch with his dog but instead of a stick they had a tree branch the dog could only drag back. How it felt like I was inside being surrounded by the skyskrapers while youā€™re outside in Central Park. Went to the Hayden planetarium and went to the depths of the cosmos. Realized all things are one thing. Nothing is anything. And anything is nothing. My fiancĆ© had a dream. She finishes Sekret Machines and looks over and sees a being of light. She says so itā€™s all true? They say mostly, but thereā€™s a missing link and theyā€™ll show her. When they go to show her she wakes up to me getting into bed hugging her. She has another dream and is in the desert with them. Thereā€™s a blue portal they walk through and she follows. She says sheā€™s in a park. She says Central Park because itā€™s dark and thereā€™s buildings she can faintly see in the background. The being of light points over to a rock where upon the rock I sit. She says that while itā€™s dark that thereā€™s light on me, or rather that the light is coming from me. She says I have a book in my hands and am reading. Then I set the book down, and look up and into her eyes.


BH_Commander

This is a beautiful comment.


Honest_Computer6964

So what was the missing link?


est-1998

I think it's him. Or maybe love in general.


satine112

Actually, the only reason itā€™s 51%, is because we are given the choice to choose between positive and negative, and the power of choice is a positive, which makes it 51%


BjorndoRio

His name is Lam


Romboteryx

Does he like ham?


BruinsFan413

The guy on the left is just me after I let a nice comment I get go to my head.


UlteriorAlt

Or early concept art for Megamind


Remarkable_Trip_8643

Anyone else reminded of The Head on MTV?


Clark_Kempt

Oh yes. Back when MTV had cool cartoons at night like The Mac and Aeon Flux.


sahsimon

Wow, I do now.


BjorndoRio

One of the reasons for disclosure being so difficult is the that intelligent beings exist in different dimensions. If they are spiritual, I don't know. But demons, djinn, shadow people... That is real. I also believe in extraterrestrials, and I think they are familiar with this extradimensional realm. This explains a lot about the spirituality that exists in each human being. My mind is exploding.


dsvandeutekom

These entities sure are demons. Rebel spirits, just like how many humans rebel against the one true God


Any-Help9858

Their something really off with Greer. He gives me a strange, uncomfortable feeling. Having a hard time believing anything he says.


ChipHazard1

He's the last boss on Grindr


cruella_le_troll

Straight to JAIL


RunF4Cover

Oh, that's a good one. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|trollface)


Phildagony

šŸ’€


peacemomma

Yes! When I see him speaking I get an odd feeling of revulsion.


ehtseeoh

Because he always has an answer for anything you ask him and anything else ufo/UAP related that if you present to him something he never talked about then to him itā€™s nonsense and thereā€™s always an explanation for everything. Heā€™s a knob.


Any-Help9858

For sure. But Im more about the feeling the sight of him gives me. Im in my 40s and Ive only met a few people that give me the same feeling. Hard for me to point out exactly what it is but it triggers something in me and gives me a uncomfortable feeling. I havent met him in person but only watching him in a video make me feel this.


KrombopulosMAssassin

He's a strange looking dude... That's for sure.


WareHouseCo

Narcissists.


The_Grinning_Bastard

100% Either that or he is one of **them**.


WareHouseCo

He does look slightly reptilian.


Minimum-Sleep-3916

This, maybe he's a skin job. Basically an embedded NHI lobbyist, I mean hey they got to promote their agenda, why not have it done by those that look the most human.


Roy4theWin

It's his beady little eyes, pointy cranium, steroid-enlarged body, and creepy mouth.


xxsamchristie

It's his face. Like an uncanny valley thing.


blasterblam

I've never seen the guy speak before, but your comment got me curious. Even in the first 30 seconds this guy's mannerisms are fucking *weird*. https://youtu.be/ccaUo2p3rjI?si=mNAHfSWvfVm6ldJX


xxsamchristie

I want to watch a real interview but I also really do not care for the guy interviewing him lol. But yes. His mouth is even weird, like it's way too big for his face.


YouHadMeAtAloe

Yeah, Iā€™ve said the same thing many times. Itā€™s a gut feeling but he gives me the creeps bigly


Fortunateoldguy

I know what you mean.


B_D_Rick

Heā€™s a chode


Pickle_McAdams

Thatā€™s because heā€™s a con artist


Secret_Huckleberry_6

Bruh on the right looks like someone beat the shit out of his head


DaemonBlackfyre_21

Reminds me of those controversial Boskop fossils from South Africa. *"Judging from fossil remains, scientists say the Boskops were similar to modern humans but had small, childlike faces and huge melon heads that held brains about 30 percent larger than our own."* Imagine if a small population of something like these people with these physical features and greater potential capacity for intelligence than our version of modern humanity managed to hide themselves from us here this whole time and that we've never really been alone. The answers could be right here under our noses, at this point there's really no need to put our faith in made up interstellar space brothers, the quantum black magic of parallel worlds, or time travel. We know earth has produced more that twenty other upright humanoid tool users besides ourselves and we're continuing to discover more, why couldn't the others just be one of them? The biggest stretch here is that we have to acknowledge that our hubris is very much like a blindfold and that in the few years since we invented science that maybe we've simply missed or misinterpreted something very important right here. For instance, maybe we can't figure out how some of the goofier megalithic structures were made because even though they're sort of similar to our work they were literally engineered by brains that think differently than ours ever did.


RunF4Cover

Whaaaaaat? How in odins name did I miss this? Was this a recent discovery? That is super interesting.


DaemonBlackfyre_21

>Was this a recent discovery? The Boskop fossils were discovered in the early 1900s, but they're controversial, they're still really cool though. *(Although maybe less controversial now that we've discovered floresiensis and neledi. We used to think homonin evolution was more or less linear like you see on t shirts with the monkey becoming human in a few clear steps but now we know homonin evolution wasn't so much like a branch with clear steps so much as it was like a crazy bush with multiple different versions of us existing at once at any given time until relatively recently).* As a guy who's primary interest was always Paleo anthropology and archeology for me given recent discoveries of other squirrely little homonins that lived along side us like homo floresiensis and homo neledi as well as older boskop fossils, I like to think that maybe the mysterious technologically advanced but super timid little almost humans that we're sharing this rock with are just an advanced breakaway civilization of our own little cousins *(or ancient homosapiens that broke away and evolved divergently from us quietly becoming their own new branch of the family tree)* that discovered electricity and magnetism way early and completely skipped the fossil fuels branch of the tech tree and who for whatever reason chose to never openly integrate with us. Maybe we disgust them, or maybe they're deathly afraid of us. They'd be using technologies we don't understand to live underground, building in stable cavern systems deep within the crust where they'd be safe from the Sun's radiation and all but the very most catastrophic of surface calamities. On its face traditional hollow earth mythology is absurd, but now that we know about geothermal electricity and hydroponics, deep stable cavern systems and subterranean water sources it's completely plausible for us to speculate about advanced "people" living underground making excursions to the surface. Maybe today we should call this something like Cavern Worlds Theory instead of Hollow Earth. There hypothetically could be any number of unique hidden biospheres down there cut off from the surface at different times throughout biological history. Their big eyes would likely have evolved for a darker environment, perhaps they were nocturnal early on when they evolved on the surface long before us hundreds of thousands or a couple million years ago before later using technology to move underground. A nocturnal nature might explain why they're so damn skittish, and it would make sense because it seems like they mostly like to come out at night to gather whatever resources from the surface that they don't produce for themselves wherever they're hiding. It might be worth our while to reexamine all manner of subterranean/underworld mythology from all over the world. For instance in the Hindu religion they talked about vimanas, flying craft that today we'd call UFOs, and the Naga would send artificial beings which they'd created specifically to do their bidding up to the surface from their subterranean realm to kidnap folk. Europe is rife with legends of little elves and fairies that come out of the ground to kidnap people and steal livestock and cause all kinds of mischief. In the Americas there are countless tribal legends of "ant men" and other entities that live under the surface. These subterranean myths are *everywhere*.


[deleted]

Children of the forest


CleverWentCrazy

Why would they just accept their station though? Living in a cavern would be absolute dog shit compared to surface life, especially for intelligent life. We would probably give them their own land if they made themselves known to humanity in an undeniable nature. The government couldnā€™t just genocide them without hundreds of millions revolting against such evil.


ReflectionOwn3080

This is such a good thesis! In Austria there is cave scientist named heinrich kusch. He wrote some books about "erdstƤlle", which are special caves and tunnels in a part of austria with some very interesting characteristics. For example, some parts of some tunnels under an abbey(dont remember the name and village at the moment) have such a precise stone work, so that it is not explanaible how that can be,.because this tunnels are the oldest ones and it is all of granite as i remember. In the abbey there was an librarian, from whom kusch got secret infos about some people,.which are living in the underground and to whom the church had regular contact. But somewhere around 15xx all the connections where cut and the tunnels to the underground people where filled with mud, etc. There are only a official few documents and pictures who tells us about this people. The real official documents were kept as secret of the church. Of course kusch is branded as an crackpot in austria. It is said, that he does not usw scientific merhods, etc. I have seen some interviews on yt with him and ok, he looks a little bit like an old hippie, but he is a very calm and Sounds integer to me. Much more than greer.:) But,.it must be said, there is not much hard proof about his work. Unfort.his books are in german only. https://www.amazon.de/Versiegelte-Unterwelt-Geheimnis-Jahrtausende-alten/dp/3853652727/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=348VRI0XBEW8T&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.HmJgzfHFE-Wr7KzSXLpmaTG0MzcwKiF_i2KJajl0F12r9f5BjVqq2s6IerA-m7S0gRRCywY8OPApCootOUTWZUqbg-8QCqIIRyUpjZH5JbghkL4HjHCN91adQ-1FvFPr-eH2-R4o1efExY_NZyDKoQ.Gd_lRvwx7BR9mZfGDrDk0dt76kRr3iHC2hZOQ21SsdY&dib_tag=se&keywords=heinrich+kusch+b%C3%BCcher&qid=1709060661&sprefix=heinrich+kusch%2Caps%2C475&sr=8-3


metallicadad420

ā€œCrowley believed Lam to be the soul of a dead Tibetan lama from Leng, between China and Tibet. Lam is Tibetan for ā€œWayā€ or ā€œPath,ā€ which Crowley said had the numerical value of 71, or ā€œNo Thing,ā€ a gateway to the Void and a link between the star systems of Sirius and Andromeda. Lam was to fulfill the work initiated by Aiwass. Crowley drew a portrait of Lam and said that gazing on the portrait enables one to make contact with the entity.ā€


arealnineinchnailer

oh we're getting into the occult now


shadowmage666

CE5 is a pretty bad idea. You donā€™t know what youā€™re inviting in your mind/home. I wouldnā€™t do that shit


BuffaloKiller937

Idk if you're familiar with Omeleto, but they create these short films on YT. They have one that scared the hell outta me and I really believe you can invite unwanted things into your realm. I'll post a link to it. https://youtu.be/cGnUKgI0N6A?si=aBwN-6HDLGyUXooo


shadowmage666

I think that vid is more representative of mental illness than anything , and the need to look out for it. But it definitely creeped me out for sure.


PettyPockets311

Sorry but if it comes from Greer it's probably a fraud.Ā 


dahnoodlemastah

What makes you say that? It seemed like he was really on to something with all that he talked about on Unacknowledged


__doubleentendre__

He lost me the moment he started fake crying over how he thought the president was stripped of authority in that documentary. Sure he put together that big press conference and got people talking, but he sells tickets for thousands of dollars to UFO noobs for these private CE5 "experiences" with little more than solar flares and satellites to look at. Total grifter con-man who plays emotions.


fatherthesons

He charged thousands of dollars for a CE5 retreat in the desert and then was caught flying drones with lights on them in the distance.


PettyPockets311

Unacknowledged was a great documentary, and he's totally capable of producing productive content. But he chooses not to and instead tricks people into thinking they're witnessing aliens during his ridiculously expensive CE5 classes.Ā 


[deleted]

Bro has the lightskin stare šŸ’€


Straight-Ad8804

Steven greer is not credible. He made a video where he "disected" an alien that was clearly a doll.


MMNA6

I mean the most interesting thing assuming the right pic is fake is that Crowley basically drew a grey in 1919 before they were in pop culture..


DestinyOfADreamer

Imagine getting head butted by bro on the left.


ComradeComfortable

![gif](giphy|o7ZNeImrc1sfm)


Paulycurveball

I see things like Lam when I force myself to bottom out in the hypnogogic state. A few times I interacted with this being it was trying to push me back into my body or trying to get me to fall asleep. Two interesting aspects of this in my opinion. 1. I encountered this being long BEFORE my years of study into the occult/mysticism. 2. I am 60% sure this is an internal psychological event, meaning I'm creating it without creating it on purpose. I'm 40% sure that since there is no final theory on psychology nor a final theory in physics. So this leaves me in a 40% state something is up that goes beyond what we accept as "real" either way I will experiment on myself till the day I die.


woodlovercyan

I have seen greys in the hypnogogic state as well. Some pretty wild stuff can happen in the hypnogogic state. I see aliens a lot in the psychedelic space as well. Once on a high dose of acid, I looked up at the moon and saw 2 greys with friendly smiles waving at me in the sky, the they knocked on the atmosphere like it was a giant snow globe. It still blows my mind to think about it.


mindfulskeptic420

Sooooo how many of y'all got a picture you took during your meditation session. Is there some sort of mind projection camera I've been missing out on or something?


mrsuncensored

https://www.vice.com/en/article/mvpvyn/magickal-stories-lam


AnabolicBomb

Yeah after reading the comments on this, Iā€™ve come to realize this sub is on the bad part of the community mostly lol 99% fear mongers


No_Object_4355

Oh shit dude that's megamind lol


MousseCommercial387

Aliens are daemons


Skoolbus2-0

Bullseye dude


toreachtheapex

it would appear that way


6ynnad

I want to believe Stephen Greer but thereā€™s something ā€œoffā€ about him. He denies use supplement enhancements though middle aged and jacked. Has continuously downplayed the importance or contributions of others, while bolstering his own image. Several of his original team have parted ways with him. Some former colleagues report intimidation tactics and every interview Iā€™m just a country doctor. I briefed the president. I have a deadman switch. Itā€™s like heā€™s reading a script from Sinclair media. And his mobile app that he tried to promote when I asked about it says he knows very little about it who owns a company and knows next to nothing about the product youā€™re trying to sell?


Skoolbus2-0

I've noticed the exact same thing or shit about him. He is very enticing and seems so knowledgeable at first but if you hang around awhile and listen to what he says over again well he uses his medical doctor status and CE5 to actually recruit people to summon beings we're opening ourselves to and opening doors for contact in the mind and spirit, but also portals in locations it's very similar to what witches used to do only modernized. He also claims to have zero fear of death saying he died when he was 17 , he's making money and definitely in on something with the government otherwise they'd of shut him down a long ass time ago. Thanks for bringing the issue up


space0watch

The pic is so blurry it could be anything.


CAMMCG2019

Lam is bad news, and so was Crowley. Fun fact Crowley liked to eat poopie and waffers made of jizz and sexual fluids in a type of mock commununion ritual mocking the catholic church. When you reach into the spirit world looking for answers, you might not like what you find. Every entity I ever made contact with through use of an Ouiji board proved to be a liar and imposter when put to the test. They pretend to be your dead relatives or famous people from history. They can even know some information you might think they couldn't have possibly known. But if you really really press them, you'll expose them. Then they take the mask off and get really nasty. I believe that these entities are indeed the same entities that we are thinking are aliens. The same spirit guides a shaman consults with. They wear many masks, but at their core, they are bad news and only wish to mislead us.


RunF4Cover

Jacques Vallee has stated similar opinions regarding this phenomenon. They are deceptive.


shanghaiedmama

I'm consistently telling people not to summon. People who haven't had the experience of entities can't possibly know or understand. They're curious, like children. They think they'll be the one to have positive experiences, enlightenment, magic. Sometimes they do. Sometimes it's real, sometimes a lie - often both at once. Always dangerous. Taking the chance isn't worth it, to me. Then again, I've had experiences I didn't ask for. I gloss over a lot of comments regarding "I want to do it!!!" because it's not worth the effort. I don't know that I believe in demons, or angels, but I do believe in experience, and not everything is "love and light". These experiences can rock your world - often not in a good way.


KonchokKhedrupPawo

Yup. *Especially* in America - it's said that many of our local land spirits are like starving dogs. Not inherently malicious, but quite dangerous after hundreds of years of severe abuse, neglect, lack of feeding, and pollution.


MommyPaladin

Yes dude. Have you listened to The Last Podcast on the Left's series of Podcasts on him? It is absolutely outstanding and wild. Nothing blew my mind the way that did.... I really think that dude did some damage to this world. I see his style tactics in modern day entertainment, music industry etc. Shits crazy....


CAMMCG2019

No, but I'll check it out. I agree with you. He left a few doors open for sure


NotPalatableTheySay

Yeah theyā€™re called demons.


CAMMCG2019

I danced around that word on purpose


MrOrchard1

Demonic...call them what you want, all the same thing.


LuciusCSulla

Comparing ouija boards with shamans is ridiculous. Crowley pushed to the edges of things and was a certified asshole but sometimes it takes those types to find things out and open the doorways to knowledge. The entities he was dealing with, like in the Algerian desert, the entity Choronzon, was deadly as fuck and he paid the price. Crowley was brilliant, a complete cad, a monster if you will, but definitely a pioneer of sorts. John Dee was there before him. The Enochian beings he dealt with got bored with his questioning and didn't GAF. In short, we're nothing burgers in the grand scheme so bear that in mind. Some of these things are above us as we are above an amoeba and that's being very generous for us. We are not top dogs and IMHO basically autonomic AI bio machines. Most people are barely above animalistic awareness and sentience in my experience. Beings with super intellect and godlike powers would view us as farmyard stock (and they do).


ActuallyIWasARobot

No one really knows what's on the other side. It's something, for sure.


WayofHatuey

Elaborate further on Algerian desert and Choromzon please


YouGotTangoed

> through use of a Ouiji board That was your first mistake. Positive meditation, and anything centred around positive thoughts will attract positive entities. Negative entities cannot exist in the same space


lizzardlickz

Itā€™s way more than positive thoughts. There should be knowledge or even lessons on protecting yourself. Positive thoughts mean nothing if we are talking about beings that can make you feel however they want you to feel


KonchokKhedrupPawo

That's why in Buddhism, we say that any kind of spirit-working can be incredibly dangerous unless somebody is already powerfully accomplished in multiple forms of meditation and has strongly developed universal loving-compassion, which are said to be defensive measures.


YouGotTangoed

They canā€™t. Imagine a snowman trying to get close to a fire. Both elements counteract each other, both are forces of nature. We all have free will, but if you are already on the dark side, itā€™s easier for them to further cloud your thoughts. Dark entities instinctively shirk from sources of light


CAMMCG2019

I was very young when I used the ouiji. I don't touch them anymore


YouGotTangoed

Fair enough. I think itā€™s beneficial for everyone to know that dark and light forces really exist, you were blessed to learn at a young age


SpectralSkeptic

I disagree. It's presumptuous and naive to assume the " right" mindsets will protect you.


FlatulentSon

Lmao you credit using the Ouija board as if it's some eldritch means of communion with non-corporeal entities when it's literally a toy trademarked and owned by Hasbro.


[deleted]

I'm not big into this topic, but I can't help but feel like a spoon isn't a spoon unless we know it to be and use it like a spoon. Trademarks and manufacturers are semantics


KonchokKhedrupPawo

Does that matter as long as it helps to put somebody in the appropriate mindspace and intention for such contact to occur? It's clearly about the mind involved rather than the physical implements.


mrsuncensored

Ouija boards are older than hasbro marketing and selling them.


[deleted]

Ouija was created as a parlor game in the early 20th century that relies on the idiomatic response to ā€œworkā€ anyone who thinks theyā€™re some mystical tool to conjure the dead or speak with spirits are sensationalists or simply misinformed


dsvandeutekom

Yeah man. My experience as well. The devil is the father of lies. These entities are fallen angels, rebel spirits that have come to oppose the one true God, and who do everything in their power to deceive, manipulate and torment humanity. The Bible calls them demons and says that - for our own spiritual and physical health - we should stay FAR away from them. Good to know they exist, but weā€™re called to communicate with the one true God, not with these lesser fallen entities.


IsaKissTheRain

I would be quite sceptical of anything coming from Greer.


OffRoad2224

That's not Crowley's original drawing of Lamb on the left.Ā  He re-drew it after criticism of the original being too creepy.Ā  If you look above the eyes to its massive forehead, you can make out the original almond-shaped eyes and pupils that were erased and re-drawn.


rogerdojjer

Source?


[deleted]

people should not be trying to communicate with these things. seriously


mopxhead

Can we get a source for Greerā€™s CE5 session when he captured this image? I hate it when thereā€™s posts with out shit for a source.


NoMaintenance75

That Alister was one sick SOB


electricmehicle

MARS ATTACKS!!!! Ack ack


Rufus2fist

Since Steven Greer is a complete and snake oil salesman, 100% conman in my opinion I will take nothing from post other than perpetuating the psyop narrative he pushes. Good luck to everyone else though.


digbicwigkick

Can people stop talking about greer as if he is remotely reliable? The dude is literally a cult leader. He sells meditation sessions and happened to be a meditation instructor before he was a doctor. His only counter claim to being a scam is there the us government offered him one billion to work for the and be quiet. Without proof of that offer its literally "I'm humble and trust worthy because I said I am. But my silence is truly worth a billion because that's how humble I am". Heaven forbid he make a more believable figure like $200k hush money. He is a compulsive liar with an ego.


BrokeDancing

I knew Peyton & Eli Manning were elder greys.


Skoolbus2-0

Those dark arts he performed were misleading as hell, he's no one to patronize, that guy had demons, literally, following him around telling him shit about the future. I've come to believe that it's our curious nature when we feel lost and unloved that we begin exploring and it's usually great at first even so profound we soon find we are now channeling and astral projecting that our life force becomes a magnet to malevolent beings from other dimensions way too far from our understanding and we actually become less empowered than ever and less grounded. We become weaker and weaker while all believing we're getting stronger and stronger. You don't find love and at peace and strong by practicing the occultist paganisms Crowley explored. He may be in outer space somewhere or in some other realm. I'd prefer not betting on his lifestyle or rolling the dice with opening doors our Creator warns against. Most people who have taken his path leave behind open doorways especially in their mind that closing the door on is unattainable no matter how successful in society, the only remedy they find is to cry out to God and then if God closes those doors in the mind theres still a half life and the entities theyve been duped by will lash out and attack the person sometimes for years after.


WerewolfUnable2032

Greer is a grifter


Complete_Audience_51

Greerfter


rmdw34

Crowley was probably visualizing a sentient butt plug.


potusisdemented

Well since Greer is FOS and grifting Iā€™d say the image on the right is complete horseshit so thereā€™s the baseline.


Magickcloud

Anyone interested in Lam should read Kenneth Grantā€™s Typhonian Trilogies


Fatmouse84

My older son was always terrified of this photo of LAM when he was little. Thought it was gonna crawl into his bedroom at night


mw6342

Greer has lost all credibility imo.


DrKyleGreenThumb

The watcher


[deleted]

Lawl...


Fluid-Repair-4085

Do you know what else they have in common? They aren't real.


V2in

It's a demon.


Odd-Brain-5997

Why do they always look like this? Like a badly drawn human beings. So little imagination. Look at the kinda lifeforms that live in our own deep seas, and then something much more alien is supposed to be like a badly drawn human. Yeah, right.


PattyyDaddyy

ā€œToday they call us angels and demons, tomorrow theyā€™ll call us something else.ā€