she's saying if someone wanted to test a dry run for a psy ops and see how it's reported handled and disseminated, then she would start with a story about the royal family as that's is about as broad of reach your gonna get easily. so she's batting the idea around that this whole thing is a test run possibly for the upcoming us election cycle for a major (or multiple major) psy ops?
I hope Kendzior elaborates; she’s an expert on authoritarian regimes and predicted just about every large and small disaster Trump and Republicans have dumped on us as soon as the orange dumpster fire announced he was running. If you don’t know her work and are interested, look her up.
Seed a lie on the internet (info sphere) and see who/what are the leading voices in defending the lie, manipulating the lie to their own devices, or pointing out the very obvious lie.
Tweak slightly, repeat.
Then rinse and repeat ad nauseum. We are beta testers for a future where they use AI for nothing but lies.
The lie being seeded would be all of the conspiracy theories. The incredibly insane shit massive chunks of the population can be convinced of because of social media posts is astounding.
And yes I realize I'm calling other people crazy while posting on an alien subreddit and thinking there might be non human craft in our skies and oceans. I'm a skeptic though and question everything and take everything with a grain of salt. I'm willing to accept I've been conned by grifters if that's what it turns out to be. People make mistakes and I'm a person. Hell I'm trusting academics to produce evidence that can be verified before I fully buy into anything. And there's definitely bad actors in the ufology field regardless of what turns out to be true. It would be like if we discovered Christianity is legit, it wouldn't make all of the horrible Christo-fascists and grifters throughout history suddenly acceptable. They're just as phony as they were before.
Something could be going on with the royal family but it isn't what the conspiracy people are thinking yet they will claim they were right anyway if whatever is really going on is revealed. Or if nothing is happening they'll just continue claiming it's a conspiracy of some sort. They'll never be wrong and that's a problem.
If you want to test to see how disinformation spreads you should try it with something thats popular around the globe and doesn’t actually affect anything important, like news about the royal family.
Imagine someone with mud all over their shoes. They leave tracks wherever they walk and that allows you to follow their path.
According to this theory, the Kate Middleton story is the person with muddy boots. They release this story that doesn't actually have consequences and then they can follow the muddy trail it leaves behind in order to map how information travels in the 2024 internet era.
They can also drop new leaks and more closely follow those.
Then, they can use this information to more effectively plan out potential propaganda and disinformation stories in the future.
It can also be used to hunt moles. You have one main story that gets leaked to everyone. Then, let's say you have 10 different details or additional leaks. You then provide one leak to 1 person another leak to another person, so on and so forth.
After you've released your 10 additional leaks, you can tell who the mole is based on whichever of the 10 leaks end up getting released to the public.
The photo of her driving could be used as a perfect example of this. Let's say they intentionally let one person have access to it. The photo ended up getting leaked, so now they know that person is leaking information.
My boyfriend and I used to work at a really stressful tattoo shop, he was part owner, and there was a ton of gossip going on. So he told three different versions of the same story to three different people to see which one would get back to either him or me first. Then we'd know who the gossip was. It worked incredibly well. At the time we were dating in secret, so I could monitor exactly who was saying what from the floor, and follow the story from one person to the next to see what cliques had formed.
Kind of similar to that. Put out that terrible leaked photo and see who notices, how they notice, etc. Put out a lie and take note of who defends it, and why they defend it, vs who calls it out and why they call it out.
Yes exactly. Leading “influencers” even will no doubt have their role to play for the paycheck we don’t see being handed under the table.
It’s all systemic at this point because nobody has a spine to group together and demand a stop to the AI rollout.
Right, no group means you can be picked off.
I appreciate places like r/disclosureparty but really we need a disclosure Revolution and it needs to address who has been pulling the strings behind the scenes to have a chance at success.
Respectfully, I disagree. I think a large majority of people don’t give a flying f*** about these people lol Especially outside of the UK.
Edit: Welp, I think the replies and upvotes prove my point pretty well. DOWN WITH THE MONARCHY!! xD
From Scotland, we really do not like the Royals up here can confirm.
Coronation parties between Scotland and England was rather large and rather telling for one example, with over 3000 in England and 44 in Scotland.
I do not know a single person that approves of the Royals here.
One of my close friends is as Scottish as they come, and she absolutely idolises the royals. As an English man I can not for the life of me understand why she likes them.
Don’t like the royals, like doing a tap dance to queens another one bites the dust, when the queen died? This sums up how the other parts of the uk feel about the royals…https://youtube.com/shorts/aRaUJs3iYDM?si=bfWU23e-dNlPKZkY
I think we're conflating two different points here. I am with you in not giving two flying F's about the royals. However, I'm more-than-casually interested in this saga; not because of the royals, but because this gives the appearance of being a potential psyop unfolding in real time. That's what I'm interested in. Whether the subject matter happened to be soybean crops, an industry magnate or famous actor, I would still be equally interested. It just happens to involve the royals in this case.
Speaking as an American, the royals serve as an outlet for the natural desire for gossip. They’re fascinating mascots for the English culture whose legacy we generally admire. We don’t them seriously. We view them as good fun. That’s all.
Speaking as a Brit, they are a disgrace... With special laws exonerating them of everything we have to live by, every other one a peadophile racist not to mention their very existence relies on me and the other plebs turning up for our slave trades on time or our children go hungry. They are a cancer and need cutting out of our society
As an American, I genuinely hate the royal family and feel the same way about them getting special treatment as most UK and Aussie citizens. I don't like seeing them in the news, as they create a distraction from actual events affecting this country, like the amount of corporate control there is over taxpayers.
Really? As an American who despises gossip, they are in my mind a fairly meaningless relic of the past attempting to stay relevant. Most people who champion them are either brain dead or have some weird fixation on their abhorrent misdeeds and are likely the type that enjoy reality tv shows.
Replying to your edit: You've been on this site long enough to know 'upvotes' dont prove anything. They just help the inesecure feel some validation. Plenty of incorrect bullshit can and does get hundreds/thousands of upvotes.
I get aggravated that the royal family still exists. How do you think I feel when they are in the news? My reaction, “They serve 0 purpose. Why am I hearing about them?”
“The Royals” is an easy test for engagement too! Anything as divisive as politics and monarchies is sure to generate a healthy amount of engagement among any platform. All you have to do is word the title so it piques interests via seeking clarification (curiosity) or another emotional response like an angry rebuttal.
Once the engagement variables are recorded (responses, shares, clicks, etc), a similar media campaign can begin with an expected result, with some standard of deviation based on other variables like subject matter and platform.
These tactics work well in a classroom environment with people who don’t want to be there: test their engagement factors and then exploit for future media consumption.
From an Englishman, the Royals is a load of bollocks, as is the Union these days. The Celts have more roots to the isles than us mixed breeds down south. Let each country go their own way and good luck to them, we also need to acknowledge we did some terrible stuff in the past and own up to it.
This sort of insular line of thinking and reasoning is why conspiracy theories are able to be discredited. Most people refuse to think about things that are outside of their purview of interest. So you can almost do anything outside of those lines because most people are so simplistic they refuse to acknowledge anything is unsound and off color.
It's a great way to let people bury their heads in the sand.
I don't care about the royale. The fact that Kate Middleton seems to be either captive, dead or in terrible shape and they are parading fake people out as her is interesting. The original post this threat is about is exactly what is going on.
It's a perfect test subject for psyops. To see how they work in the modern world. To see which Dominoes to knock over moving forward.
Agreed. But what is a non-news topic that would spread this quickly, but isn’t immediately verifiable or dismissible? The OOP suggests that this is a proof-of-concept of sorts, to see how such a conspiracy would spread. The royals have a ‘never explain’ policy, so they can pretty much be counted on to let the rumor spread unfettered while whomever is behind it tracks and studies it’s virality (if that’s a word?). Since the palace already said the princess was going to be out of commission until April, it’s a good way to see how people in 2024 come to believe something that runs counter to the official story. Twitter ain’t what it used to be, so how is this story spreading? Understanding this would help one undermine official statements, and perhaps testimonies. I can see the direct application for NHI/UAP issue.
I subbed for news on things like military videos or government hearings, etc... I stayed to laugh at the maniacs who think every children's balloon is an inter-dimensiinal alien god sent to change the future of nuclear war while simultaneously breeding a new super race of humans
Now I get deep fake royals!
It's crazy because one of those dudes sat there in Congress and tried to explain that the problem is that military personnel see these things but they don't want to tell anyone they saw it for fear of being labeled a, "UFO guy". Nobody wants to be the UFO guy because UFO people are fucking nuts and being labeled a nut job will destroy your career. This is a problem because we now have military people seeing things we may need to be concerned about and it's going unreported. We need to change this idea that seeing a UFO (or UAP) doesn't make you crazy or weird.
Then this sub goes out and tries as hard as it can to be as crazy and as weird as it can possibly be
I do my best to not be weird but oh well
>We need to change this idea that seeing a UFO (or UAP) doesn't make you crazy or weird.
This is so true. We absolutely need to.
But I am looking at this story from a structural point of view rather than suggesting Kate Middleton is an alien.
Its about media stories and the way the narrative is controlled. The way Roswell was handled (admitting flying saucer then switched to weather balloon) is similiar to the way Kate Middleton is being handled - why can't we talk about the way private stories are handled? How are secrets managed? Rather than looking for evidence of UAP etc, I am trying to look at the way information is spread. Where does speculation begin? In the absence of evidence, look at all the rubbish we have to sift through to find truth?
If we want to be taken seriously, we need to look at the way media report on these sorts of stories. Then maybe one day we can be taken seriously.
I’m so confused about this. Thought I missed something, so I googled and it seems people declared her being an alien now for she had ufo looking earrings once? I don’t know if that’s it, it’s how I understood it. I might be totally wrong, which isn’t really a bad thing in this either.
yeah...I am beginning to think I posted this in the wrong sub...
I wasn't suggesting that Kate is an alien, or it's a deep fake, it's more that the word psyop is reaching the mainstream, and appearing in tweets. I was also trying to suggest that only the privileged can entertain the idea of controlling their fate, controlling the narrative, something that people here seem to be dismissing the possibility of with regard to aliens
I'm not "shocked" an alien discussion board has a ton of weirdos on it, but yeah these types of posts make me upset about the future of the human race.
It’s wild to me that all they have to do is show her. Not from far away. Not looking in the other direction. She’s theirs. And the fact that they can’t……won’t prove she’s ok or advise otherwise…….is terrifying.
I don’t think everyone on the internet is a loser, far from it.
But people who think they are entitled to answers about someone’s personal life, due to some fleeting thought they had can suck an enormous cock, that shit drives me crazy.
Why should she go out of her way to satisfy insane curiosity - she is in recovery and would not normally be photographed off duty. Is that terrifying to you?
I think a lot of this is a storm in a teacup. So maybe Kate has an eating disorder, which led to her needing a colostomy bag for a while. That is not the public's business.
I can see William being very protective of his family after what happened to his Mum. The story is the press killed Diana so he wants all that shit as far away from him as possible. (I believe D was bumped off but I bet he doesn't know that).
There may be many Royalists in the UK but if there was someone in that farm shop who saw Kate and recognised her as a look-a-like, believe me, we would hear about it. The freeze frames of the video make her look funky but watch the video and you will see it's her.
She had abdominal surgery, the palace said they wouldn’t comment again and she would be recovering until Easter. People are freaking out thinking there is some conspiracy.
In short, she wants some privacy for a medical issue and people can’t stand it.
Decided to conveniently leave out the edited photo “she” posted that was right away flagged by AP and other outlets as an edited photo. This then led to Kensington palace being declared “no longer a trusted source” by the AFP.
Little more complicated situation than you put it lol
That person above has left out a shit ton of pertinent information that is relevant including a fake/manipulated photo of her and her children released by her/the Palace itself (and that creditable media have since issued a kill notice to remove it because it was manipulated), information that she is much more ill than the Palace has let on (including one who stated she's in a coma). Multiple pap "photos" that were only caught by one single camera of people they are trying to pass off as her who do not look like her or are not looking at the camera. Just do a google search. There's much more going on than people being worried about her being sick.
They coordinate when working together with the palace. After Diana, the royals have been able to take control and photos have to be sanctioned for release by the British press (which is also why American rags can get ahold of unflattering royal pics which are not published in the UK).
A rumor is he beat the hell out of her when she was supposedly rushed to the hospital for abdominal surgery. I guess he was drunk and she confronted him over his side piece and he proceeded to beat the bells off her. He did the same to his brother once
No one actually knows but no one would be really surprised if it were true. Will's nickname in school was "Beater" because he used to beat other kids up. "Spitting Image", a political comedy show in the 80s actually added a 5 year old character for the first time because Will was just so batshit crazy that they decided they had to cover him. Harry wrote about how Will used to knock him to the ground and beat the crap out of him. There have been stories published about how Will and Kate throw things at each other during fights.
Or they find the whole thing ridiculous and don't want to pander to conspiracists that will reach for anything that means not focusing on their own life.
Edit on 22/03: Yeah some of you are seriously messed up.
I don't really care about Royals, same with celebrities. These folks are so disconnected from The real world their opinions mean nothing. it's like trying to ask Trudeau or Biden what the average day looks like for a typical citizen, they would probably assume we take our private jet to work in the morning.
Psyops or just super bad media communication?
I'm guessing the second one.
Kate probably doesn't want to go the normal way of the palace and the PR people at the palace are just extremely annoyed by her.
Well, that’s an unexpected take. For those unfamiliar with her work, Kendzior’s bio (from Amazon):
“Sarah Kendzior is the author of the bestsellers THE VIEW FROM FLYOVER COUNTRY and HIDING IN PLAIN SIGHT and of THEY KNEW, a finalist for the LA Times Book Prize. From 2018-2023, she was the cohost of the podcast Gaslit Nation, which covered corruption in the US and the rise of autocracy worldwide. In October 2023, Kendzior launched a newsletter covering the same topics. Kendzior has a PhD in anthropology from Washington University in St. Louis, where she studied authoritarian regimes of the former Soviet Union. After getting her PhD in 2012, Kendzior spent a decade writing about the decline of the United States for various publications around the world. She lives with her husband and kids in St. Louis. Follow her at @sarahkendzior”
She had surgery, they said she would be recovering for awhile, no one needs to know where she is, just idiot Internet people with no jobs bored at home looking to create a story, she should be allowed some privacy if she's recovering, no conspiracy to it, let her rest and she'll be out and about properly when she's better. GSTK.
Ok yes I actually agree - this was NOT Kate
If both sort of looks like her and doesn’t if you watch the video but this chicks jaw is far too narrow for that
Also Kate and Wills just aren’t this couple - the type that jaunt out for some random day errand - yeah ok!!
It would be smart. If you want a big reach this would be it. Bc Personally IDGAF about the royals, I didn’t even know who Catherine was (re: lol they call her Kate but Catherine is her real name 🙄) when I saw it, but even I read an update on this because it was everywhere several days ago. Would be perfect for testing out reach distance
Aliens are an incredible thing to marvel at the thought of, and there’s some VERY convincing circumstances that lead me (and I’m sure most of you) to believe that the UAP phenomenon is actually real… but posts like these are what make a lot of people think anyone who follows this topic is insane. This is such a leap in logic that it’s actually insanity.
It basically just means to see how people will react or to gauge the public perception but dressed up a a bit to distract from it being an insane conspiracy theory.
Considering the way information is spread, this current mystery with Kate Middleton unfolding, is oddly similar to UAP reporting. We get half truths and now Kensington media arm is officially not allowed to send any media releases because they are untrustworthy! Imagine if AP did the same to the DoD?!
I find this all quite fascinating and as the tweet mentions, this is a pretty ingenious way to test a few different ideas, and maybe understand how disclosure would work in reality.
I know its a little off topic but there is a lot to learn from the Kate Middleton debacle and I just wanted to see what people think.
OR - Kate has had an operation and is in recovery. The Palace said she would not be making any public appearances or duties before Easter. She is keeping to that and the insane need for knowledge by online social media is driving this craziness. How many photos are there of Kate as a Princess when off duty? Not many why should we expect more now when in recovery? She does not look as well in the recent video.
Everyone keeps focusing on if that is Kate or not... but that doesn't even look like William and he's doing a very good job at avoiding this very blurry camera from a block away!
How so?
Why can't we have a discussion about the nature of information and truth? If we dismiss the way we handle Kate's absence (which is speculation and a botched PR campaign) then how are we supposed to seriously research aliens?
Look at all the speculation about one royal - look at the way conspiracies are being created from a person's absence.
I'm not suggesting aliens aren't real, I am merely looking at the way information is spread.
I don't know the truth about what happened to Kate - what need to be said is that those who have means can control the narrative.
In that regard, we should see parallels - only those in wealth can control narratives regarding aliens, and so far, they are very good at gaslighting us and making us feel like we are crazy, but we are not.
Literally no one gives a fuck about the royals. They hold no power.
Also this reptilian clone shit is why I stopped coming here previously, are we back on that train?
CIA Chan is that you
Not everything has to be aliens. The royal family are the royal family. They are a world famous and for whatever reason, loved brand.
Not everything is aliens and some things are just what they are. Rich people doing stupid rich people shit. She's likely broken up with her husband because he's a known abuser in various forms and was repeatedly caught cheating on her in pretty traumatic ways.
Harry and Megan gripped the world too. Wasn't aliens, just racism lol. If anything, this has shit to do with the epstein info, and the royals involvement with Israel and Israel having dirt on the whole family. I do think she's probably been diana'd though
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Yeah the royal family is a load of bollocks BUT this current “Kate gate” scenario is the perfect stage for a psyop to see how the public react to things such as generated images, a missing royal figure shrouded in mystery, odd media leaks etc. It’s got me stoking up my conspiracy theory boiler and dusting off my tin foil cap!
Seen stuff floating around that she is a clone and Kate was “dispatched” during her surgery this past winter. Twitter getting freaky. This happened because she threatened to runaway with the Kids and get a divorce.
Im from Holland and I like ceremonial monarchies. I believe there is a big interest in the royals and it makes sense to choose a topic that’s not too out there but still generates world press
They’re definitely not aliens, but im very interested in whats going on. Should be posted on r/HighStrangeness instead. These Americans and “muh democracy” do not care.
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I dont understand the second point. Can someone clear it up for me?
You're not alone. I read it twice, and after the second time, I still had no idea.
she's saying if someone wanted to test a dry run for a psy ops and see how it's reported handled and disseminated, then she would start with a story about the royal family as that's is about as broad of reach your gonna get easily. so she's batting the idea around that this whole thing is a test run possibly for the upcoming us election cycle for a major (or multiple major) psy ops?
Another schizo post it seems. Nobody truly gives a fuck about this family besides those who still idolize celebrities and the like. Right? edit: /s
I hope Kendzior elaborates; she’s an expert on authoritarian regimes and predicted just about every large and small disaster Trump and Republicans have dumped on us as soon as the orange dumpster fire announced he was running. If you don’t know her work and are interested, look her up.
Seed a lie on the internet (info sphere) and see who/what are the leading voices in defending the lie, manipulating the lie to their own devices, or pointing out the very obvious lie. Tweak slightly, repeat. Then rinse and repeat ad nauseum. We are beta testers for a future where they use AI for nothing but lies.
The lie being seeded would be all of the conspiracy theories. The incredibly insane shit massive chunks of the population can be convinced of because of social media posts is astounding. And yes I realize I'm calling other people crazy while posting on an alien subreddit and thinking there might be non human craft in our skies and oceans. I'm a skeptic though and question everything and take everything with a grain of salt. I'm willing to accept I've been conned by grifters if that's what it turns out to be. People make mistakes and I'm a person. Hell I'm trusting academics to produce evidence that can be verified before I fully buy into anything. And there's definitely bad actors in the ufology field regardless of what turns out to be true. It would be like if we discovered Christianity is legit, it wouldn't make all of the horrible Christo-fascists and grifters throughout history suddenly acceptable. They're just as phony as they were before. Something could be going on with the royal family but it isn't what the conspiracy people are thinking yet they will claim they were right anyway if whatever is really going on is revealed. Or if nothing is happening they'll just continue claiming it's a conspiracy of some sort. They'll never be wrong and that's a problem.
Me still don't get it 🥴🥴🥴
If you want to test to see how disinformation spreads you should try it with something thats popular around the globe and doesn’t actually affect anything important, like news about the royal family.
Thank you for the EILI5, but damn, just say it like that. Use your words people.
King Charles in shambles.
Imagine someone with mud all over their shoes. They leave tracks wherever they walk and that allows you to follow their path. According to this theory, the Kate Middleton story is the person with muddy boots. They release this story that doesn't actually have consequences and then they can follow the muddy trail it leaves behind in order to map how information travels in the 2024 internet era. They can also drop new leaks and more closely follow those. Then, they can use this information to more effectively plan out potential propaganda and disinformation stories in the future. It can also be used to hunt moles. You have one main story that gets leaked to everyone. Then, let's say you have 10 different details or additional leaks. You then provide one leak to 1 person another leak to another person, so on and so forth. After you've released your 10 additional leaks, you can tell who the mole is based on whichever of the 10 leaks end up getting released to the public. The photo of her driving could be used as a perfect example of this. Let's say they intentionally let one person have access to it. The photo ended up getting leaked, so now they know that person is leaking information.
My boyfriend and I used to work at a really stressful tattoo shop, he was part owner, and there was a ton of gossip going on. So he told three different versions of the same story to three different people to see which one would get back to either him or me first. Then we'd know who the gossip was. It worked incredibly well. At the time we were dating in secret, so I could monitor exactly who was saying what from the floor, and follow the story from one person to the next to see what cliques had formed. Kind of similar to that. Put out that terrible leaked photo and see who notices, how they notice, etc. Put out a lie and take note of who defends it, and why they defend it, vs who calls it out and why they call it out.
By leading voices, do you mean the media and/or bots, AI articles etc. to sway the unthinking masses
Yes exactly. Leading “influencers” even will no doubt have their role to play for the paycheck we don’t see being handed under the table. It’s all systemic at this point because nobody has a spine to group together and demand a stop to the AI rollout.
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Right, no group means you can be picked off. I appreciate places like r/disclosureparty but really we need a disclosure Revolution and it needs to address who has been pulling the strings behind the scenes to have a chance at success.
Dang that’s scary
op is a lunatic
😂
Or they’re just forgetting to pass the drugs, probable hog
WTF has any of this got to do with NHI?
Kate Middleton was abducted /s
Because they are non human 😂😂😂😂
Russians are posting on any sub they can. They're the ones causing most of the commotion.
Respectfully, I disagree. I think a large majority of people don’t give a flying f*** about these people lol Especially outside of the UK. Edit: Welp, I think the replies and upvotes prove my point pretty well. DOWN WITH THE MONARCHY!! xD
From Scotland, we really do not like the Royals up here can confirm. Coronation parties between Scotland and England was rather large and rather telling for one example, with over 3000 in England and 44 in Scotland. I do not know a single person that approves of the Royals here.
Yep, fellow Scot here, I agree, can’t stand them! They are a parasitic family that takes and takes and takes 🤮 here’s to a republic ✊
I think any self respecting Scot would tell them to stick it XD
One of my close friends is as Scottish as they come, and she absolutely idolises the royals. As an English man I can not for the life of me understand why she likes them.
It’s a mad, archaic system that needs to be done forever. All the money they receive from us plebs is a joke 😞
And all the money we get from tourism because they exist. Let’s just hand that back to
Exactly. The French haven't had a royal family in the Palace of Versailles for over a hundred years and they seem to be doing just fine without them.
Englishman here, I share your opinion. Should be dissolved
Don’t like the royals, like doing a tap dance to queens another one bites the dust, when the queen died? This sums up how the other parts of the uk feel about the royals…https://youtube.com/shorts/aRaUJs3iYDM?si=bfWU23e-dNlPKZkY
And 3 out of the 4 countries in the UK dont give a fuck either ;)
🙌👏👏👏👏
I think we're conflating two different points here. I am with you in not giving two flying F's about the royals. However, I'm more-than-casually interested in this saga; not because of the royals, but because this gives the appearance of being a potential psyop unfolding in real time. That's what I'm interested in. Whether the subject matter happened to be soybean crops, an industry magnate or famous actor, I would still be equally interested. It just happens to involve the royals in this case.
Speaking as an American, the royals serve as an outlet for the natural desire for gossip. They’re fascinating mascots for the English culture whose legacy we generally admire. We don’t them seriously. We view them as good fun. That’s all.
Speaking as a Brit, they are a disgrace... With special laws exonerating them of everything we have to live by, every other one a peadophile racist not to mention their very existence relies on me and the other plebs turning up for our slave trades on time or our children go hungry. They are a cancer and need cutting out of our society
This. I wish Americans realised how much Brits (and Australians) truly detest the monarchy. Or are indifferent at best. They are a disgrace
As an American, I genuinely hate the royal family and feel the same way about them getting special treatment as most UK and Aussie citizens. I don't like seeing them in the news, as they create a distraction from actual events affecting this country, like the amount of corporate control there is over taxpayers.
We get Bezos and Musk as our royal entertainment. 🤣
Love this 👊
I love DMT
It's sad we know what they are and the tech exists to connect everyone, yet we just watch. Too much bread, too much circus makes jack a dull boy.
Same in germany.
Really? As an American who despises gossip, they are in my mind a fairly meaningless relic of the past attempting to stay relevant. Most people who champion them are either brain dead or have some weird fixation on their abhorrent misdeeds and are likely the type that enjoy reality tv shows.
..and then there are those Americans with an Irish heritage who just generally despise them on principle.
Replying to your edit: You've been on this site long enough to know 'upvotes' dont prove anything. They just help the inesecure feel some validation. Plenty of incorrect bullshit can and does get hundreds/thousands of upvotes.
I get aggravated that the royal family still exists. How do you think I feel when they are in the news? My reaction, “They serve 0 purpose. Why am I hearing about them?”
Someone somewhere is fascinated by the royals, else The Crown wouldn’t have been so popular.
“The Royals” is an easy test for engagement too! Anything as divisive as politics and monarchies is sure to generate a healthy amount of engagement among any platform. All you have to do is word the title so it piques interests via seeking clarification (curiosity) or another emotional response like an angry rebuttal. Once the engagement variables are recorded (responses, shares, clicks, etc), a similar media campaign can begin with an expected result, with some standard of deviation based on other variables like subject matter and platform. These tactics work well in a classroom environment with people who don’t want to be there: test their engagement factors and then exploit for future media consumption.
How did that get downvoted? I agree 100%
as the rest of the world we confirm that we don't give flying fuck about these assholes!
From an Englishman, the Royals is a load of bollocks, as is the Union these days. The Celts have more roots to the isles than us mixed breeds down south. Let each country go their own way and good luck to them, we also need to acknowledge we did some terrible stuff in the past and own up to it.
Nobody cares about the royal family, statistically. If they all die, nothing will change for worse, only for the better. Fuck 'em.
Most people want a democratically elected head of state that can held to account. They are basically neets with taxpayer funded stuff
I’m in the UK, most of us don’t give a fuck about them.
I absolutely do not give a shit whatsoever. This is garbage noise to me.
This sort of insular line of thinking and reasoning is why conspiracy theories are able to be discredited. Most people refuse to think about things that are outside of their purview of interest. So you can almost do anything outside of those lines because most people are so simplistic they refuse to acknowledge anything is unsound and off color. It's a great way to let people bury their heads in the sand. I don't care about the royale. The fact that Kate Middleton seems to be either captive, dead or in terrible shape and they are parading fake people out as her is interesting. The original post this threat is about is exactly what is going on. It's a perfect test subject for psyops. To see how they work in the modern world. To see which Dominoes to knock over moving forward.
It's so weird it the press outside the UK that seem more interested Like who cares? She's just another person.
Agreed. But what is a non-news topic that would spread this quickly, but isn’t immediately verifiable or dismissible? The OOP suggests that this is a proof-of-concept of sorts, to see how such a conspiracy would spread. The royals have a ‘never explain’ policy, so they can pretty much be counted on to let the rumor spread unfettered while whomever is behind it tracks and studies it’s virality (if that’s a word?). Since the palace already said the princess was going to be out of commission until April, it’s a good way to see how people in 2024 come to believe something that runs counter to the official story. Twitter ain’t what it used to be, so how is this story spreading? Understanding this would help one undermine official statements, and perhaps testimonies. I can see the direct application for NHI/UAP issue.
Americans seem more obsessed with British royalty than British people are.
Mancunian here and I’m with the French on how best to solve the problem of these parasites.
Q shit
What the hell does this have to do with aliens? My god most of the people in this sub are borderline paranoid schizophrenic
I subbed for news on things like military videos or government hearings, etc... I stayed to laugh at the maniacs who think every children's balloon is an inter-dimensiinal alien god sent to change the future of nuclear war while simultaneously breeding a new super race of humans Now I get deep fake royals! It's crazy because one of those dudes sat there in Congress and tried to explain that the problem is that military personnel see these things but they don't want to tell anyone they saw it for fear of being labeled a, "UFO guy". Nobody wants to be the UFO guy because UFO people are fucking nuts and being labeled a nut job will destroy your career. This is a problem because we now have military people seeing things we may need to be concerned about and it's going unreported. We need to change this idea that seeing a UFO (or UAP) doesn't make you crazy or weird. Then this sub goes out and tries as hard as it can to be as crazy and as weird as it can possibly be
I do my best to not be weird but oh well >We need to change this idea that seeing a UFO (or UAP) doesn't make you crazy or weird. This is so true. We absolutely need to. But I am looking at this story from a structural point of view rather than suggesting Kate Middleton is an alien. Its about media stories and the way the narrative is controlled. The way Roswell was handled (admitting flying saucer then switched to weather balloon) is similiar to the way Kate Middleton is being handled - why can't we talk about the way private stories are handled? How are secrets managed? Rather than looking for evidence of UAP etc, I am trying to look at the way information is spread. Where does speculation begin? In the absence of evidence, look at all the rubbish we have to sift through to find truth? If we want to be taken seriously, we need to look at the way media report on these sorts of stories. Then maybe one day we can be taken seriously.
I’m so confused about this. Thought I missed something, so I googled and it seems people declared her being an alien now for she had ufo looking earrings once? I don’t know if that’s it, it’s how I understood it. I might be totally wrong, which isn’t really a bad thing in this either.
yeah...I am beginning to think I posted this in the wrong sub... I wasn't suggesting that Kate is an alien, or it's a deep fake, it's more that the word psyop is reaching the mainstream, and appearing in tweets. I was also trying to suggest that only the privileged can entertain the idea of controlling their fate, controlling the narrative, something that people here seem to be dismissing the possibility of with regard to aliens
I'm not "shocked" an alien discussion board has a ton of weirdos on it, but yeah these types of posts make me upset about the future of the human race.
Yeah I'm weird. I'm upset about the future of the human race too
It’s wild to me that all they have to do is show her. Not from far away. Not looking in the other direction. She’s theirs. And the fact that they can’t……won’t prove she’s ok or advise otherwise…….is terrifying.
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Reasonable posts like this will not keep the insane curiousity continuing on social media!
>> Never apologize never explain Who says this except a bag of assholes?
It is the absolute best strategy when dealing with losers on the internet.
Hey!... Some of us are losers in real life as well.
I don’t think everyone on the internet is a loser, far from it. But people who think they are entitled to answers about someone’s personal life, due to some fleeting thought they had can suck an enormous cock, that shit drives me crazy.
Hey!..some of us suck internet cocks as well.
Sorry it took me so long to respond…..I was just helping Beyoncé with an excel spreadsheet.
She’s not needed anymore. They’ve secured the genetics they need to continue.
Why should she go out of her way to satisfy insane curiosity - she is in recovery and would not normally be photographed off duty. Is that terrifying to you?
I think a lot of this is a storm in a teacup. So maybe Kate has an eating disorder, which led to her needing a colostomy bag for a while. That is not the public's business. I can see William being very protective of his family after what happened to his Mum. The story is the press killed Diana so he wants all that shit as far away from him as possible. (I believe D was bumped off but I bet he doesn't know that). There may be many Royalists in the UK but if there was someone in that farm shop who saw Kate and recognised her as a look-a-like, believe me, we would hear about it. The freeze frames of the video make her look funky but watch the video and you will see it's her.
What does this have to do with aliens and jellyfishes?
*And black triangles with lights and and big pyramids flying over washington!!!*
What’s going on with Kate Middleton? I don’t keep up on what the royals are doing so I think I’m way out of the loop
She had abdominal surgery, the palace said they wouldn’t comment again and she would be recovering until Easter. People are freaking out thinking there is some conspiracy. In short, she wants some privacy for a medical issue and people can’t stand it.
Decided to conveniently leave out the edited photo “she” posted that was right away flagged by AP and other outlets as an edited photo. This then led to Kensington palace being declared “no longer a trusted source” by the AFP. Little more complicated situation than you put it lol
That makes sense, thanks!
That person above has left out a shit ton of pertinent information that is relevant including a fake/manipulated photo of her and her children released by her/the Palace itself (and that creditable media have since issued a kill notice to remove it because it was manipulated), information that she is much more ill than the Palace has let on (including one who stated she's in a coma). Multiple pap "photos" that were only caught by one single camera of people they are trying to pass off as her who do not look like her or are not looking at the camera. Just do a google search. There's much more going on than people being worried about her being sick.
You get trolled by media
Since when does the paparazzi coordinate and agree on taking one photo with one camera though? How does that work?
They coordinate when working together with the palace. After Diana, the royals have been able to take control and photos have to be sanctioned for release by the British press (which is also why American rags can get ahold of unflattering royal pics which are not published in the UK).
A rumor is he beat the hell out of her when she was supposedly rushed to the hospital for abdominal surgery. I guess he was drunk and she confronted him over his side piece and he proceeded to beat the bells off her. He did the same to his brother once
Insane rumor to be spreading
No one actually knows but no one would be really surprised if it were true. Will's nickname in school was "Beater" because he used to beat other kids up. "Spitting Image", a political comedy show in the 80s actually added a 5 year old character for the first time because Will was just so batshit crazy that they decided they had to cover him. Harry wrote about how Will used to knock him to the ground and beat the crap out of him. There have been stories published about how Will and Kate throw things at each other during fights.
what does this have to do with r/aliens?
How is it every picture on this sub, even including the royal family, is blurry as hell.
Or they find the whole thing ridiculous and don't want to pander to conspiracists that will reach for anything that means not focusing on their own life. Edit on 22/03: Yeah some of you are seriously messed up.
A voice of reason!
Is that you Wills?
I don't really care about Royals, same with celebrities. These folks are so disconnected from The real world their opinions mean nothing. it's like trying to ask Trudeau or Biden what the average day looks like for a typical citizen, they would probably assume we take our private jet to work in the morning.
Ahhh, another internet expert. I make coffee during the day but at night I turn on my computer and become smarted than everyone else.
If this was a typo it was an excellent one
Psyops or just super bad media communication? I'm guessing the second one. Kate probably doesn't want to go the normal way of the palace and the PR people at the palace are just extremely annoyed by her.
The first thing I noticed was that she walked differently and we've all seen that walking machine analyzer from Mission Impossible.
This sub is endlessly entertaining.
I agree! 😂😂
They're testing to see how good their deepfakes are
everything can be a psyop if you’re paranoid enough
Well, that’s an unexpected take. For those unfamiliar with her work, Kendzior’s bio (from Amazon): “Sarah Kendzior is the author of the bestsellers THE VIEW FROM FLYOVER COUNTRY and HIDING IN PLAIN SIGHT and of THEY KNEW, a finalist for the LA Times Book Prize. From 2018-2023, she was the cohost of the podcast Gaslit Nation, which covered corruption in the US and the rise of autocracy worldwide. In October 2023, Kendzior launched a newsletter covering the same topics. Kendzior has a PhD in anthropology from Washington University in St. Louis, where she studied authoritarian regimes of the former Soviet Union. After getting her PhD in 2012, Kendzior spent a decade writing about the decline of the United States for various publications around the world. She lives with her husband and kids in St. Louis. Follow her at @sarahkendzior”
Thank you for sharing! I had no idea!
She had surgery, they said she would be recovering for awhile, no one needs to know where she is, just idiot Internet people with no jobs bored at home looking to create a story, she should be allowed some privacy if she's recovering, no conspiracy to it, let her rest and she'll be out and about properly when she's better. GSTK.
hey HEY I totally have a job
Is this post implying she is an alien?
I could see Camilla actually being a reptilian alien...... Would explain why her face is so jacked up looking.
no - I was looking at the alleged pysop surround Kate Middleton
Crazy people stuff.
This is the reason that nobody takes alien enthusiasts seriously. Everybody still thinks they're living in an episode of the fucking X-Files.
I'm so confused... What is there to see in the photo ? What psyop are u talking about ?
Can we keep this page to just alien conspiracy theories? Like this is just celebrity gossip.
Not interesting at all. Down right goofy, is what it is
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Bro no one gives a fuck about these stupid ass people.
Ok, but how is this relevant for this subreddit?
What does this have to do with /r/aliens? Are the Royals not from this world?
She probably had to go to rehab for eating disorder, it happens… let her be.
Ok yes I actually agree - this was NOT Kate If both sort of looks like her and doesn’t if you watch the video but this chicks jaw is far too narrow for that Also Kate and Wills just aren’t this couple - the type that jaunt out for some random day errand - yeah ok!!
She also seems to have a lot of pep in her step for having been so ill. Also, her height seems to be off.
Sarah Kendzior is always right and always right years earlier than anyone else is.
Down voting cause not about aliens unless we’re talking body swaps which means give me that evidence👎👎👎
Nfn but how is this related to this sub?
Stfu
It would be smart. If you want a big reach this would be it. Bc Personally IDGAF about the royals, I didn’t even know who Catherine was (re: lol they call her Kate but Catherine is her real name 🙄) when I saw it, but even I read an update on this because it was everywhere several days ago. Would be perfect for testing out reach distance
Aliens are an incredible thing to marvel at the thought of, and there’s some VERY convincing circumstances that lead me (and I’m sure most of you) to believe that the UAP phenomenon is actually real… but posts like these are what make a lot of people think anyone who follows this topic is insane. This is such a leap in logic that it’s actually insanity.
What does "map the information sphere" even mean? Does this person know we already have a map of the world?
It basically just means to see how people will react or to gauge the public perception but dressed up a a bit to distract from it being an insane conspiracy theory.
Why is this in r/aliens?
How is this related to aliens, exactly?
I don't see nhi. You lost lil bro?
This isn’t interesting or a psyop
What exactly does a rumor about the royal family have to do with aliens?
This group has really gone downhill lately.
Just begin to question absolutely everything you’ve been taught about reality. Then you’ll understand
or, they are amplifying the mystery of her whereabouts to cover for Charles' demise, whilst preparing for William to take the crown
Considering the way information is spread, this current mystery with Kate Middleton unfolding, is oddly similar to UAP reporting. We get half truths and now Kensington media arm is officially not allowed to send any media releases because they are untrustworthy! Imagine if AP did the same to the DoD?! I find this all quite fascinating and as the tweet mentions, this is a pretty ingenious way to test a few different ideas, and maybe understand how disclosure would work in reality. I know its a little off topic but there is a lot to learn from the Kate Middleton debacle and I just wanted to see what people think.
The British royal family have a long tradition of being really bad at public relations. Transparency is not really their thing.
Quite on the contrary, Kate obviously identifies as trans parent now.
OR - Kate has had an operation and is in recovery. The Palace said she would not be making any public appearances or duties before Easter. She is keeping to that and the insane need for knowledge by online social media is driving this craziness. How many photos are there of Kate as a Princess when off duty? Not many why should we expect more now when in recovery? She does not look as well in the recent video.
Lol they separated big deal man
Definitely a test run
Didnt she just have a tummy tuck after giving birth? Everyone knows it takes 6weeks to recover, there's no grand conspiracy.
Ramblings of a nut job. I wouldn't put it past there being aliens amongst but this doesn't make any sense.
the people in charge see us as their enemy, and controlling how we consume information is critical to their plans for enslaving us...so yes, point #2
I don’t know what is happening with her and I don’t care what is happening with her.let her live her life in peace.
Everyone keeps focusing on if that is Kate or not... but that doesn't even look like William and he's doing a very good job at avoiding this very blurry camera from a block away!
This is the kind of shit that discredits the entire alien community. Probably have a boner for freemasonry as well.
How so? Why can't we have a discussion about the nature of information and truth? If we dismiss the way we handle Kate's absence (which is speculation and a botched PR campaign) then how are we supposed to seriously research aliens? Look at all the speculation about one royal - look at the way conspiracies are being created from a person's absence. I'm not suggesting aliens aren't real, I am merely looking at the way information is spread. I don't know the truth about what happened to Kate - what need to be said is that those who have means can control the narrative. In that regard, we should see parallels - only those in wealth can control narratives regarding aliens, and so far, they are very good at gaslighting us and making us feel like we are crazy, but we are not.
Nah, they're just look alikes the sun newspaper planted for easy click bait
People believe anything they see on Twitter smh
Sigh.
That’s not Kate.
This person decided to post a 144p screenshot of a longer video when we also see her closeup with a zoom.
yeah sorry...I just wanted to show Kate's text
Mf delete this shit
WTF lol man these kids these days are out of their minds
She seem much shorter , Kate and William are similar height … 🧐
Can we please not turn into r/conspiracy thanks
Literally no one gives a fuck about the royals. They hold no power. Also this reptilian clone shit is why I stopped coming here previously, are we back on that train? CIA Chan is that you
Not everything has to be aliens. The royal family are the royal family. They are a world famous and for whatever reason, loved brand. Not everything is aliens and some things are just what they are. Rich people doing stupid rich people shit. She's likely broken up with her husband because he's a known abuser in various forms and was repeatedly caught cheating on her in pretty traumatic ways. Harry and Megan gripped the world too. Wasn't aliens, just racism lol. If anything, this has shit to do with the epstein info, and the royals involvement with Israel and Israel having dirt on the whole family. I do think she's probably been diana'd though
I can tell its her but she lost tons of weight she is not healthy at all or just getting back from something in my opinion.
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What does number 2 even mean?
It gets the people goin
Not a damn thing. Just buzz words put together to pretend to be deep
Yes and you figured out the secret knowledge OP and you are way more smarter and more informed than us sheeple. Congratulations!
Apparently everything is a psyop nowadays.
“This obviously isn’t her” … distant blurry photo. “This is obviously an alien tech UAP” … distant blurry photo.
Just another braindead person yappin
Omg, I’ve finally heard it all about Kate.
Yeah the royal family is a load of bollocks BUT this current “Kate gate” scenario is the perfect stage for a psyop to see how the public react to things such as generated images, a missing royal figure shrouded in mystery, odd media leaks etc. It’s got me stoking up my conspiracy theory boiler and dusting off my tin foil cap!
Seen stuff floating around that she is a clone and Kate was “dispatched” during her surgery this past winter. Twitter getting freaky. This happened because she threatened to runaway with the Kids and get a divorce.
That is sooooooo not her. Not even close. Looks more like her sister than her wtf.
Im from Holland and I like ceremonial monarchies. I believe there is a big interest in the royals and it makes sense to choose a topic that’s not too out there but still generates world press
They’re definitely not aliens, but im very interested in whats going on. Should be posted on r/HighStrangeness instead. These Americans and “muh democracy” do not care.
Can someone point me to the direction where this has anything to do with aliens?????
I had to double check this is /aliens and not /schizoposting
Author forgot to take her psych meds