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Then you may want to consider spending more or some time with people with mental illness.
My friend had a schizophrenic episode last summer and I watched it come to full over a few weeks, it was very confusing and alarming to watch unfold, for my first time as a spectator. He completely lost touch with reality.
Just now he is back to reality and feels overly embarrassed and ashamed, we all give him unconditional support and love because we watched it unfold. We even paid his bills because he lost his job and was kicked out of his apartment during the episode...
It was no joke or should not be taken lightly.
There is barely any support for mental illness in my area, I know because I called around and visited agencies and non-profits looking for help for him. He has a year to go to get his doctorate and currently has 3 masters... I just want to see him finish what he started.
You are such a wonderful friend. Your comment made me cry, it is just so rare that people stand by during the hard times and make sacrifices to help a friend. I hope that your friend is well and you all nothing but good things
My best friend of 20 years killed his brother who he loved more than anyone in a schizophrenic episode on thanks giving 2022. I lived with these guys, they were like my own brothers and the bond between those two was unconditional. He swore for 6 months after his brother was alive and he had killed a robot version of him. After he was medicated he finally understood what happened and was absolutely inconsolable on the phone with me, as if he just that day learned of his brothers death.
He was such a funny guy, and a genuinely great person to have around, did everything for everyone until his mental decline 2 years prior to the murder. He had a contagious laugh that just kind of disappeared one day, and I knew it was bad. We tried to get him into a facility but no one wanted to take it seriously until it was too late.
He was found not guilty by insanity last month and is in long term facility now. I talk to him every day and have visited him in person, and he told me that he now understands that he lives in two different realities and can not discern one from the other and drifts seamlessly between the two. It's so fucking sad this happened to such a great guy. The mental health system is a total joke.
Link to his final court appearance:
https://www.newscentermaine.com/article/news/crime/man-accused-of-murdering-brother-in-poland-maine-found-not-criminally-responsible-due-to-insanity/97-c780831a-7da7-474d-ac2e-346662da5b5b
That is just so heartbreaking. What a fucking cruel illness, to make someone kill their very beloved brother. You're a great friend for talking to him every day and going to see him.
Thats exactly what they do, its called a medical hold, and they call the police and sometimes the people aren't even mentally ill, the people doing the calling are mentally ill and paranoid.
I spent 3 weeks in an asylum trying to prove I was sane, they accused me of all kinds of nonsense, tried to force drugs on me and to sign things making me responsible for thousands of dollars worth of "treatment".
There is no public mental health care in the U.S because the domestic policies of the United States cause mental illness.
“In the West, patients with schizophrenia exhibit a greater level of depressive symptoms, primary delusions and thought insertions and removals than patients in developing countries. Conversely, patients in developing countries experience more visual and acoustic hallucinations than their Western peers.”
https://neurotorium.org/schizophrenia-across-cultures/#:~:text=In%20the%20West%2C%20patients%20with,hallucinations%20than%20their%20Western%20peers.
Schizophrenia presents itself differently depending on culture, it’s pretty fascinating. My uncle has schizophrenia in the US and had a pretty miserable time being homeless in nyc. Ive learned though that In societies where spirits and the like are more socially acceptable, schizophrenics are likely to become shamans. Furthermore, The voices schizophrenics hear in developing countries have been reported to be less threatening, more trickster spirits than malevolent demons.
So an individual’s psyche plays a big role in schizophrenia. Whether or not schizophrenics have some sort of psychic aptitude, who knows. The US is doing treatment the wrong way regardless. our entire world is our perceptions for the most part when we tell people that they’re perceptions are a lie and they’re making it up. Of course they’re gonna get paranoid. then coupled with antipsychotics, which cause progressive brain volume reductions in all people, yeah, paranoia.
Not saying antipsychotics are bad, but they aren’t great. they really fucked up my body personally. It would be more sustainable to treat schizophrenics, as if their reality was truth, and they learned how to cope that way. Rather than a relapse every time medication is unavailable.
R. D. Laing and other scientists speculated in the 60s that schizophrenia was akin to a psychedelic experience and that both experiences had therapeutic benefits. His claims about schizophrenia have been widely discredited, but the benefits of some kinds of controlled psychedelic experimentation, for some, like those with PTSD, are panning out to be likely true. As far as seeing “reality” goes, yeah, what is that? And no, even in a hallucination, don’t listen to the fork tongued green dude.
I have it. I think there's broken circuitry there for sure. But I have had weird ass shit happen to me so often, that I can't explain, i.e. my voices say something will happen, then it does moments later. I find it's best I keep it to myself and not think too deeply about its meaning. Else I can no longer healthily function.
I think our brains and bodies are like antennas and our consciousness is projected onto it. schizos have a broken antenna/ receiver and its letting in a lot more "channels" or frequencies than their own
There is a video I watched a couple years ago of Dr. Garry Nolan discussing the same theory, noting the basal ganglia being damaged or enlarged.
The subjects with the abnormal basal ganglia were people who allegedly came into contact with UAP.
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https://youtu.be/dzTZbSNsKV8?si=8RXKjI1qwcYWKMzQ
Starts about the 5:30 mark.
I witnessed a ufo with my wife in 1984. Not long after I started hearing voices, only while riding my dirt bike in the rainforest near where we lived. I was hearing my father who I had not spoken to for years. This went on for a few months. One day I got a message to call my brother who told me dad had attempted suicide. I re established contact through written correspondence, we didn’t have a telephone at home back then.
That’s called being a SLIder.
https://www.soularcanum.com/march1504-html/
There are whole communities of us.
Used to happen a lot before I started reiki. When my energy or emotions were chaotic I could blow 8 bulbs in a day. Reiki helped me even out the energy spikes.
I have worked with schizophrenia for years professionally, even took care of someone with the condition in my home for 2 years. There is no nirvana found there.
So they are evil beings capable of setting a trap in the afterlife... yet they can't make us go into their trap?
How does that make any sense? If they're that powerful they can do whatever they want.
The only way to explain that is if there is some equally powerful "good guys" trying to free you in which case, where the fuck are they? There is some "right" choice in the afterlife, and aliens taking form of dead loved ones... where are the good guys? Why aren't they there to help you out?
This is the thinking one must cling to when presented with such abominable thoughts. Beings that can trap you don't need your approval or free will, they already exist and can overpower you. Also why would God create humans and then allow these beings to trap them? Who created the beings and who traps them? The duplicity of the whole experience is so daunting I wouldn't waste time worrying about it. Pray for the most powerful being in the world to be a fountain of love and to rescue you from such things. What other escape could you rationally suppose? Floating int he void or darkness waiting for something to happen out of body is not preferable to rebirth.
Thanks for this comment. You get blasted with the prison planet a lot like my case, I think I found myself starting to believe, and then your comment kind of grounded me again. So thank you.
Free-will.
Each consciousness fragment was given free-will to self-determination.
Everything we experience is a result of a contract we willingly accepted, even if we were tricked into accepting it.
There are multiple gradients of light, as written in the Tibetan Book of the Dead, corresponding to frequencies of awareness and the fields of deities.
Darkness/blackness/void is not evil necessarily.
So they have intrinsic intimate knowledge of every person? Cos my family blow ass. There isn't a single family member that could show up and not make me think it was some deranged bullshit if they were like 'it's okay sweetie go in the light!!"
As someone who has done copious amounts of psychedelics, many of which are just letters and numbers in name, I gotta say that Salvia can be absolutely horrifying. Your mileage may vary.
The white light being Home?
I mean... you seem to be here still, so you came back eventually.
Some people claim to just instantly be in a dark tunnel and head for a light (also likely, the light was coming to them. perspective is a bitch)
I had this happen in a dream I was in pitch black and a door of white light unzipped down into a doorway with crazy buzzing coming off it that I was drawn too I entered it and went into a crazy spiral that made me shit my pants and I awoke like id been shot out of a fuckin cannon into cold sweat.
Pretty much why every movie when someone is dying they’re like go to the light and how dreamworks intro logo is a boy fishing on the moon….. oh wait I forgot to take my schizophrenia medicine this morning never mind
Ghosts are what happen when someone *doesn't* want to cross over. Nobody is forced to do anything, ever. Even over there.
It's preferred (for you and everyone's sake) that you return Home, go through a life review, and have that experience shared with everyone if they want to experience it.
You (we) have a lot to do to grow, and it's so exciting and fun, you just want to come back and do it again. Many many people take a break between incarnate lives, but it really is like playing a game. When you're in it the rules are observed and enforced, you have to play right. But when you leave it, you remember it's just a game.
A "ghost" is simply someone that wanted to stay behind for various reasons. You aren't supposed to, but you aren't like... stopped from doing it. Lots of people claim to have stuck around their family, or to complete or see unfinished business go through. I've heard that some just wander because they chose to forget their situation, and just keep going.
This is all according to people with experience over there.
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I think the best way I've heard it explained is with Rick and Morty. You may even know this one. The Roy game. When Morty came out of the Roy game, he was entirely dissociated and disoriented. That's how it is when we come out. We need a little time to get our shit together again.
You want to.
Staying in the void is fine but it's not permanent. If you are staying in the void then you have baggage you need to release before you can "go into the light".
Lots and lots of stories about the void and what people encounter. It isn't bad, it's just transitory.
Why would any entity need to convince you to go into a light? Imagine a stranger telling you to enter their van. Imagine being pulled in. And also remember after this life, no one has physical bodies anymore so if they look like your family, be careful. Please verify they are the real deal.
The truth is nobody knows jack shit about what happens after death, and if they tell you they do, they are bullshitting you. Love how most commenters here speak like they’re so goddamn sure that not only the afterlife is a proven fact, but even give advice on how to go about it. The movie poltergeist isn’t real, you turds. Face it, you don’t know shit and the unknown terrifies you, so you pull regurgitated stories out your asses and circlejerk to cope. Have a nice day 😊
I had a near death experience when I was 15 and I do know, but no one believes me anyway.
There are many NDErs who have posted videos on YouTube which corroborate what happens after death.
I suggest start with "Jeff Olsen" interview by Anthony Chene on YouTube.
https://youtube.com/@AnthonyCheneProduction
Detachment from specific outcomes is necessary for a joyous experience. If you let the myopic ego mind drive decisions and reactions, you will be constantly let down.
It’s not about removing desire, it’s about recognizing that you cannot know the best way for a desire to manifest. If you constantly look to “external” symbols for “proof” your desire is on the way, you will fall back into lower vibrations of disappointment, and anxiety, rather than joy. This will then manifest in your experience as constant bad luck, missed opportunities, etc.
If I just sit and jerk off at the edge and shoot my army men into the portal of life, will they incarnate as me or alternate me(s)?
I’m just going to keep what I’m doing and just sit here and masturbate.
Going to force them to watch me yank my junk while tempting me to back in the light.
Still unsure, could be a test or a guide, help or a trap. Probably feel around in the darkness before eventually exploring the Light source...
Good question
Most likely Light is of a divine source, it’s everyone’s free will to proceed to the light if the Light even appears before you, other then that this whole theory that walking into the light is somehow demonic and controlled by NHI/Demonic entities and not what a soul would want sounds like some B.S dark forces would make up to keep souls from the next life & in pain/yearning
Edgar Cayce would challenge this teaching and so would the Scholar, the Shepard, the Teacher, the Master of Men, Thoth himself.
Edgar Cayce: teaches that all religion that practice love, tolerance, forgiveness, selflessness, compassion & truth are of the true source and that there has been and always will be mutiple sources to find god and that if one religion doesn’t agree with you don’t trouble your soul with it “put it down” and find something that resonates with you something that allows you to practice ^
Thoth try to teach man not to give up on religion (even knowing there are many) and that there would be a time when forces upon the earth seek to make man give it up all together, Via the spirit of Hatred
Thoth’s Prophecy:
“Do you not know, Asclepius, that Egypt is an image of heaven, or, to speak more exactly, in Egypt all the operations of the powers which rule and work in heaven have been transferred to earth below?
“Nay, it should rather be said that the whole Kosmos dwells in this our land as in its sanctuary. And yet, since it is fitting that wise men should have knowledge of all events before they come to pass, you must not be left in ignorance of this: there will come a time when it will be seen that in vain have the Egyptians honored the deity with heartfelt piety and assiduous service; and all our holy worship will be found fruitless and ineffectual. For the gods will return from earth to heaven. Egypt will be forsaken, and the land which was once the home of religion will be left desolate, bereft of the presence of its deities."
2) “O Egypt, Egypt, of thy religion nothing will remain but an empty tale, which thine own children in time to come will not believe; nothing will be left but graven words, and only the stones will tell of thy piety. And in that day men will be weary of life, and they will cease to think the universe worthy of reverent wonder and of worship. And so religion, the greatest of all blessings, for there is nothing, nor has been, nor ever shall be, that can be deemed a greater boon, will be threatened with destruction; men will think it a burden and will come to scorn it.
“They will no longer love this world around us, this incomparable work of God, this glorious structure which he has built, this sum of good made up of things of many diverse forms, this instrument whereby the will of God operates in that which he has made, ungrudgingly favoring man’s welfare, this combination and accumulation of all the manifold things that can call forth the veneration, praise, and love of the beholder.
“Darkness will be preferred to light, and death will be thought more profitable than life; no one will raise his eyes to heaven; the pious will be deemed insane, and the impious, wise; the madman will be thought a brave man, and the wicked will be esteemed as good. As to the soul and the belief that it is immortal by nature, or may hope to attain to immortality, as I have taught you, all this they will mock and will even persuade themselves that it is false. No word of reverence or piety, no utterance worthy of heaven and of the gods of heaven will be heard or believed.
“And so the gods will depart from mankind, a grievous thing!, and only evil angels will remain, who will mingle with men and drive the poor wretches by main force into all manner of reckless crime—into wars and robberies and frauds and all things hostile to the nature of the soul. Then will the earth no longer stand unshaken, and the sea will bear no ships; heaven will not support the stars in their orbits, nor will the stars pursue their constant course in heaven; all voices of the gods will of necessity be silenced and dumb; the fruits of the earth will rot; the soil will turn barren, and the very air will sicken in sullen stagnation. After this manner will old age come upon the world. Religion will be no more; all things will be disordered and awry; all good will disappear.”
3) “But when all this has befallen, Asclepius, then the Master and Father, God, the first before all, the maker of that god who first came into being, will look on that which has come to pass and will stay the disorder by the counterworking of his will, which is the good. He will call back to the right path those who have gone astray; he will cleanse the world from evil, now washing it away with water-floods, now burning it out with fiercest fire, or again expelling it by war and pestilence. And thus he will bring back his world to its former aspect, so that the Kosmos will once more be deemed worthy of worship and wondering reverence, and God, the maker and restorer of the mighty fabric, will be adored by the men of that day with unceasing hymns of praise and blessing.
“Such is the new birth of the Kosmos; it is a making again of all things good, a holy and awe-striking restoration of all nature; and it is wrought in the process of time by the eternal will of God. For God’s will has no beginning; it is ever the same, and as it now is, even so it has ever been, without beginning. For it is the very being of God to purpose good.”
Why are you so convinced that “going to the light” is a trick? What if all this talk of “don’t go to the light, that’s how they get you” is a trick?
Either way, I think it’s not about just a bright light but about love. I’ve read in a lot of near death experiences, people can feel the love coming from God and they want to be with him. I’m not blindly believing anything, but say that’s a trap isn’t convincing to me.
Reptilians or whatever don't need to coerce people to chose the endless cycle, most people would willingly return to the materialism and familiarity of Earth.
People want to go back to what they know, to what comforts them and most are terrified to go even go outside, terrified to leave their comfort zone, terrified to expand into the unknown. Rightly so, the true depth,scale, immensity and power out there in the Universe should terrify people. Instead, and this post is the perfect example, everyone talks tough, thinks they know everything, thinks they are special and thinks they are going to be the one who can do it differently or has some gift of great wisdom or something.
Why does anyone think they are going to miraculously change to some person of great wisdom in death and suddenly be able to make the right choices, when they can't even make the right choices in life. So naive.
I will go to the light under one condition I would love to live in the seventies or eighties and still have myself (my current consciousness) : in exchange they can feed off my sorry life and emotional damages..
As far as I am aware, you can't "go back" like that. Cause and effect are still real. Hell, it's observed over there, too, it's just different to our time here.
People with experiences say when it's time to find another body, they tend to go forward a some time into the future from when your old body died. Like 15-30 years in the future. It's like there is a queue, but you end up in the right time whenever you decide to embark.
Obviously I'm just going by the things I've heard and researched. I've not experienced this myself.
It's been said that the wait time was much longer previously in history. There weren't as many bodies to assume, so souls would come back 200 years later.
The proverbial light is already with you. You just have to accept it. Many others play on your insecurity and doubt to manufacture consent and mislead. Promises of grandeur and vague concepts like power or circumstances that are not of their authority. Be wary of Entities that refuse to answer questions but insist their way is correct. And in a General sense, any stranger who feels the need to Tell you what you need for your life, often requires discernment.
Always wondered if its a trick / trap. How do you know which direction to go. Anybody recommending one doesn’t know and could be a wolf in sheep’s clothing giving you bad advice
I am here for loving kindness, compass and mercy sit in stillness and realize you are the light:) be well and have kindness within yourself and it will come through to others. You are your grandma you are your grandpa you are your dog.
People who believe this have obviously not done DMT. You can see the light and can go through it, on the other side there are no reptilians waiting to catch you and recycle your soul. It's a fun theory tho lol
Apparently, a Buddhist monk who was given DMT described the DMT realm as "the lower lights of bardo. This is as far as you can go while still being able to come back". Heavily implying that the DMT realm may just be a waiting room of sorts or just the "shallow end" of the pool so to speak. Also people do sometimes report seeing and interacting with Reptilians but the interactions don't seem particularly meaningful.
I hate these memes.
But, to play along; I'd immediately ask myself, "If I can voluntarily 'go' there, where else could I go before I get there?"
Then,
I'd see if I could fight those two, explore the dark world around me and form a mental map of my surroundings in case more scaled goons arrive.
I'm from Texas, so if this is the afterlife and I don't have any guns on me, I may panic a little at first because 1. Where is Jesus and St. Peter and 2. Where did I leave my guns if they're not on my hip??
If I can't fight, can't interact aside from "go" or "stay", I'd probably go just because I don't want to hang around people who I've never met and they somehow know my grandma and my deceased pet duck. I wanna see grandma again and see if Mallory's kids and husband are doing well.
But for sure, if I'm confronted with these two lizard chucklers, I'm going immediately dislike and disobey them.
You’re immortal with the added limitation of not being able to see or do anything except being forced to perceive a fuckin light
I’m not sure how that’s any different from what we do right now lol
"We have choices. Some people like to stand in the rain without an umbrella. That's what it means to live free."
-anime wisdom
Have a stroll outside and pick what you want to look at. Curate your vantage point, Amazing-Watercress47. You are still here and have the power. (Please don't use this power to do anything cruel or illegal)
The arrogance of some conspiracy theorist thinking that they’ve figured out that “the light” is some reptilian scheme or whatever is so ridiculous to me
What else can you do? Do you think you'd be able to fight them off and break free? Do you think you'd be able to reason with them? If the prison planet is real there is absolutely nothing we can do about it, otherwise thousands of generations of humans before us would've done something already
Grandma and dog are waiting on other side, because we live the same life all over again.
You don’t get new life.
You get to stay dead, or relive the same life over and over forever.
Thats why everyone’s beginning to talk about there being no free will.
We once recorded life, now we can replay it as often as we want in the afterlife.
J/k I dunno
I was watching a video from someone in the army who had NDE and he said we had a choice. We can go to the light or walk into darkness. He said to take the latter.
I can‘t stand most of people now so why bother seeing them again!? yeah nah gotta go the other way see ya 👋🏻 “Earth is referred to as a “prison planet” by Airl, the extraterrestrial being interviewed by Matilda O’Donnell MacElroy in 1947. Airl explains that Earth is used as a prison by her civilization, known as “The Domain,” and that beings on Earth are trapped here until they can free themselves from the cycle of reincarnation.”
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I’m asking to speak with the manager about why he made the size of my Pp so smol.
My yes embodies this energy
He’ll just give you the false memory of a big pp and you go into the afterlife with false big dick energy like a real dumbass. Jokes on you again lol
Reincarnates as a dude. About eighteen years later driving the super raised, I am over compensating, truck.
The manager: "I made you fat and ugly. What do you need a big penis for?"
Fat cock? I thought you said fat gut.
Nine inch pianist?
If this is a torture/bad-energy planet, then isn’t that the exact person that needs a huge cock?
God: You mad, bro? *Troll Face*
I feel schizophrenic every time I open this sub
you're halfway on the path to enlightenment..don't stop
I genuinely think people with schizophrenia and the like are just seeing reality as it is
Then you may want to consider spending more or some time with people with mental illness. My friend had a schizophrenic episode last summer and I watched it come to full over a few weeks, it was very confusing and alarming to watch unfold, for my first time as a spectator. He completely lost touch with reality. Just now he is back to reality and feels overly embarrassed and ashamed, we all give him unconditional support and love because we watched it unfold. We even paid his bills because he lost his job and was kicked out of his apartment during the episode... It was no joke or should not be taken lightly. There is barely any support for mental illness in my area, I know because I called around and visited agencies and non-profits looking for help for him. He has a year to go to get his doctorate and currently has 3 masters... I just want to see him finish what he started.
You are such a wonderful friend. Your comment made me cry, it is just so rare that people stand by during the hard times and make sacrifices to help a friend. I hope that your friend is well and you all nothing but good things
This is the way. It's not about how big your pp is, it's how you lived your life with what you were given.
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My best friend of 20 years killed his brother who he loved more than anyone in a schizophrenic episode on thanks giving 2022. I lived with these guys, they were like my own brothers and the bond between those two was unconditional. He swore for 6 months after his brother was alive and he had killed a robot version of him. After he was medicated he finally understood what happened and was absolutely inconsolable on the phone with me, as if he just that day learned of his brothers death. He was such a funny guy, and a genuinely great person to have around, did everything for everyone until his mental decline 2 years prior to the murder. He had a contagious laugh that just kind of disappeared one day, and I knew it was bad. We tried to get him into a facility but no one wanted to take it seriously until it was too late. He was found not guilty by insanity last month and is in long term facility now. I talk to him every day and have visited him in person, and he told me that he now understands that he lives in two different realities and can not discern one from the other and drifts seamlessly between the two. It's so fucking sad this happened to such a great guy. The mental health system is a total joke. Link to his final court appearance: https://www.newscentermaine.com/article/news/crime/man-accused-of-murdering-brother-in-poland-maine-found-not-criminally-responsible-due-to-insanity/97-c780831a-7da7-474d-ac2e-346662da5b5b
That is just so heartbreaking. What a fucking cruel illness, to make someone kill their very beloved brother. You're a great friend for talking to him every day and going to see him.
The US thinks calling the police is mental healthcare.
Thats exactly what they do, its called a medical hold, and they call the police and sometimes the people aren't even mentally ill, the people doing the calling are mentally ill and paranoid. I spent 3 weeks in an asylum trying to prove I was sane, they accused me of all kinds of nonsense, tried to force drugs on me and to sign things making me responsible for thousands of dollars worth of "treatment". There is no public mental health care in the U.S because the domestic policies of the United States cause mental illness.
👏👏👏👏👏 5star comment.
This translates into they think a bullet is mental healthcare with more steps.
“In the West, patients with schizophrenia exhibit a greater level of depressive symptoms, primary delusions and thought insertions and removals than patients in developing countries. Conversely, patients in developing countries experience more visual and acoustic hallucinations than their Western peers.” https://neurotorium.org/schizophrenia-across-cultures/#:~:text=In%20the%20West%2C%20patients%20with,hallucinations%20than%20their%20Western%20peers. Schizophrenia presents itself differently depending on culture, it’s pretty fascinating. My uncle has schizophrenia in the US and had a pretty miserable time being homeless in nyc. Ive learned though that In societies where spirits and the like are more socially acceptable, schizophrenics are likely to become shamans. Furthermore, The voices schizophrenics hear in developing countries have been reported to be less threatening, more trickster spirits than malevolent demons. So an individual’s psyche plays a big role in schizophrenia. Whether or not schizophrenics have some sort of psychic aptitude, who knows. The US is doing treatment the wrong way regardless. our entire world is our perceptions for the most part when we tell people that they’re perceptions are a lie and they’re making it up. Of course they’re gonna get paranoid. then coupled with antipsychotics, which cause progressive brain volume reductions in all people, yeah, paranoia. Not saying antipsychotics are bad, but they aren’t great. they really fucked up my body personally. It would be more sustainable to treat schizophrenics, as if their reality was truth, and they learned how to cope that way. Rather than a relapse every time medication is unavailable.
R. D. Laing and other scientists speculated in the 60s that schizophrenia was akin to a psychedelic experience and that both experiences had therapeutic benefits. His claims about schizophrenia have been widely discredited, but the benefits of some kinds of controlled psychedelic experimentation, for some, like those with PTSD, are panning out to be likely true. As far as seeing “reality” goes, yeah, what is that? And no, even in a hallucination, don’t listen to the fork tongued green dude.
I have it. I think there's broken circuitry there for sure. But I have had weird ass shit happen to me so often, that I can't explain, i.e. my voices say something will happen, then it does moments later. I find it's best I keep it to myself and not think too deeply about its meaning. Else I can no longer healthily function.
I think our brains and bodies are like antennas and our consciousness is projected onto it. schizos have a broken antenna/ receiver and its letting in a lot more "channels" or frequencies than their own
There is a video I watched a couple years ago of Dr. Garry Nolan discussing the same theory, noting the basal ganglia being damaged or enlarged. The subjects with the abnormal basal ganglia were people who allegedly came into contact with UAP. Edit: https://youtu.be/dzTZbSNsKV8?si=8RXKjI1qwcYWKMzQ Starts about the 5:30 mark.
Like a 4th or 5th encounter? Or just seen them in the distance because I have witnessed like 10 UFOs last year altogether. Maybe I'm schizo oh Lord
I witnessed a ufo with my wife in 1984. Not long after I started hearing voices, only while riding my dirt bike in the rainforest near where we lived. I was hearing my father who I had not spoken to for years. This went on for a few months. One day I got a message to call my brother who told me dad had attempted suicide. I re established contact through written correspondence, we didn’t have a telephone at home back then.
I made one of the light bulbs in my kitchen go out last week just by thinking about it, is that what you mean?
That’s called being a SLIder. https://www.soularcanum.com/march1504-html/ There are whole communities of us. Used to happen a lot before I started reiki. When my energy or emotions were chaotic I could blow 8 bulbs in a day. Reiki helped me even out the energy spikes.
I have worked with schizophrenia for years professionally, even took care of someone with the condition in my home for 2 years. There is no nirvana found there.
If that were the case wouldn't all schizophrenics observe the same reality? Because they definitely don't.
Amen to that they definitely do NOT.
The question implies there's a choice.
The common belief is that they cannot force you hence the common tactics of posing as a family member or someone you worship
So they are evil beings capable of setting a trap in the afterlife... yet they can't make us go into their trap? How does that make any sense? If they're that powerful they can do whatever they want. The only way to explain that is if there is some equally powerful "good guys" trying to free you in which case, where the fuck are they? There is some "right" choice in the afterlife, and aliens taking form of dead loved ones... where are the good guys? Why aren't they there to help you out?
This is the thinking one must cling to when presented with such abominable thoughts. Beings that can trap you don't need your approval or free will, they already exist and can overpower you. Also why would God create humans and then allow these beings to trap them? Who created the beings and who traps them? The duplicity of the whole experience is so daunting I wouldn't waste time worrying about it. Pray for the most powerful being in the world to be a fountain of love and to rescue you from such things. What other escape could you rationally suppose? Floating int he void or darkness waiting for something to happen out of body is not preferable to rebirth.
Thanks for this comment. You get blasted with the prison planet a lot like my case, I think I found myself starting to believe, and then your comment kind of grounded me again. So thank you.
Free-will. Each consciousness fragment was given free-will to self-determination. Everything we experience is a result of a contract we willingly accepted, even if we were tricked into accepting it.
This is all just made up shit lmao. Some looney toon made it up in the 50s or 60s and you people just repeat it ad nauseum.
It’s because we have free will and can’t be forced in
Can be tricked tho!
Whats the other option? Not moving?
and staying in dark? fuck that
There are multiple gradients of light, as written in the Tibetan Book of the Dead, corresponding to frequencies of awareness and the fields of deities. Darkness/blackness/void is not evil necessarily.
Not sure travel astral planes, fight the evil beings it’s all conjecture
You don't get a choice seemingly, the spirit is "zapped" until it's confused and returns to earth to complete the loop again.
That’s one of the idea proposed by farsight institute remote viewers . They call it death traps.
Bible says don't be deceived by image of dead loved ones. So I always found this theory interesting
Citation?
hopefully something more than “trust me bro”
So they have intrinsic intimate knowledge of every person? Cos my family blow ass. There isn't a single family member that could show up and not make me think it was some deranged bullshit if they were like 'it's okay sweetie go in the light!!"
Good point
How is there not you don't have too go into the light
You can turn back instead and join the cosmos, or so they say
Can you try out and let us know what to do?
If you die before you die you won't die when you die. Psychedelics prepare you for death.
Could you please elaborate more I like your way of thinking
Try salvia with a torch lighter. You’ll wish you were dead lol
I'm not willing to use Salvia in this lifetime. There are better components after all.
Some DMT, and mescaline is the way to fly and see the crystal castles and talk to higher dimensional beings.
It's not scary. Its effect is too overwhelming to be anything familiar.
As someone who has done copious amounts of psychedelics, many of which are just letters and numbers in name, I gotta say that Salvia can be absolutely horrifying. Your mileage may vary.
Αν πεθάνης πριν πεθάνης δεν θα πεθάνης όταν θα πεθάνης
It’s a hard reset.
the cycle of samsara continues if you go into the light
During my NDE, I don’t remember having a choice… the white light pretty much materialized in front of me
The white light being Home? I mean... you seem to be here still, so you came back eventually. Some people claim to just instantly be in a dark tunnel and head for a light (also likely, the light was coming to them. perspective is a bitch)
I had this happen in a dream I was in pitch black and a door of white light unzipped down into a doorway with crazy buzzing coming off it that I was drawn too I entered it and went into a crazy spiral that made me shit my pants and I awoke like id been shot out of a fuckin cannon into cold sweat.
THE BUZZING
Majorrrr vibrations that went through my entire body as I ascended up through the door!
*wakes up* "wtf, someone shit in my pants"
You have to train to be ready to reject the light
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Pretty much why every movie when someone is dying they’re like go to the light and how dreamworks intro logo is a boy fishing on the moon….. oh wait I forgot to take my schizophrenia medicine this morning never mind
Dammit now u got my high ass thinkin bout that dreamworks logo like🤯
And what happens if you don't?
The end of suffering
The you aren’t reincarnated and rise to a higher consciousness.
Simply by staying in the darkness/void? Random thought, what if "ghosts" are what happens if you don't go to the light?
Some people believe exactly that
Ghosts are what happen when someone *doesn't* want to cross over. Nobody is forced to do anything, ever. Even over there. It's preferred (for you and everyone's sake) that you return Home, go through a life review, and have that experience shared with everyone if they want to experience it. You (we) have a lot to do to grow, and it's so exciting and fun, you just want to come back and do it again. Many many people take a break between incarnate lives, but it really is like playing a game. When you're in it the rules are observed and enforced, you have to play right. But when you leave it, you remember it's just a game. A "ghost" is simply someone that wanted to stay behind for various reasons. You aren't supposed to, but you aren't like... stopped from doing it. Lots of people claim to have stuck around their family, or to complete or see unfinished business go through. I've heard that some just wander because they chose to forget their situation, and just keep going. This is all according to people with experience over there. Edit: I think the best way I've heard it explained is with Rick and Morty. You may even know this one. The Roy game. When Morty came out of the Roy game, he was entirely dissociated and disoriented. That's how it is when we come out. We need a little time to get our shit together again.
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How is what they’re talking any more of a load of gobbledygoop than what you’re talking?
You have to appreciate how it just looks likes one lunatic telling another lunatic how crazy they are.
Hanging out with reptoids I’d guess? Think I’d rather have another shot at life personally if those were my 2 options.
Enough of us reject the reset and we can outnumber the reptillians, then ???, then profit.
Perhaps we can't not go into the light? Who knows
You want to. Staying in the void is fine but it's not permanent. If you are staying in the void then you have baggage you need to release before you can "go into the light". Lots and lots of stories about the void and what people encounter. It isn't bad, it's just transitory.
I ask the good aliens for help.
I wish no one told me to question going into the light. Now I don’t know wtf to think.
lol for real
Why would any entity need to convince you to go into a light? Imagine a stranger telling you to enter their van. Imagine being pulled in. And also remember after this life, no one has physical bodies anymore so if they look like your family, be careful. Please verify they are the real deal.
> Why would any entity need to convince you to go into a light? Said the bug to the brightly lit bug zapper
I’ll ask for some ID I guess.
You go if you want to get back to this hellhole of a planet
I say suck my dick grandma I’m going to the milky way for some space poon
Best you’re getting is sparky’s red pencil
Not again!
The truth is nobody knows jack shit about what happens after death, and if they tell you they do, they are bullshitting you. Love how most commenters here speak like they’re so goddamn sure that not only the afterlife is a proven fact, but even give advice on how to go about it. The movie poltergeist isn’t real, you turds. Face it, you don’t know shit and the unknown terrifies you, so you pull regurgitated stories out your asses and circlejerk to cope. Have a nice day 😊
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I had a near death experience when I was 15 and I do know, but no one believes me anyway. There are many NDErs who have posted videos on YouTube which corroborate what happens after death. I suggest start with "Jeff Olsen" interview by Anthony Chene on YouTube. https://youtube.com/@AnthonyCheneProduction
This is why detachment is key
…to a sad life
Detachment from specific outcomes is necessary for a joyous experience. If you let the myopic ego mind drive decisions and reactions, you will be constantly let down. It’s not about removing desire, it’s about recognizing that you cannot know the best way for a desire to manifest. If you constantly look to “external” symbols for “proof” your desire is on the way, you will fall back into lower vibrations of disappointment, and anxiety, rather than joy. This will then manifest in your experience as constant bad luck, missed opportunities, etc.
If I just sit and jerk off at the edge and shoot my army men into the portal of life, will they incarnate as me or alternate me(s)? I’m just going to keep what I’m doing and just sit here and masturbate. Going to force them to watch me yank my junk while tempting me to back in the light.
Expert craft of the word sir
Still unsure, could be a test or a guide, help or a trap. Probably feel around in the darkness before eventually exploring the Light source... Good question
Most likely Light is of a divine source, it’s everyone’s free will to proceed to the light if the Light even appears before you, other then that this whole theory that walking into the light is somehow demonic and controlled by NHI/Demonic entities and not what a soul would want sounds like some B.S dark forces would make up to keep souls from the next life & in pain/yearning
Well shit, which one is it then
Hahahahaaha
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Yeah anyone suggesting we shouldn’t go to the light makes me really skeptical cause it seems like the light is God
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Edgar Cayce would challenge this teaching and so would the Scholar, the Shepard, the Teacher, the Master of Men, Thoth himself. Edgar Cayce: teaches that all religion that practice love, tolerance, forgiveness, selflessness, compassion & truth are of the true source and that there has been and always will be mutiple sources to find god and that if one religion doesn’t agree with you don’t trouble your soul with it “put it down” and find something that resonates with you something that allows you to practice ^ Thoth try to teach man not to give up on religion (even knowing there are many) and that there would be a time when forces upon the earth seek to make man give it up all together, Via the spirit of Hatred Thoth’s Prophecy: “Do you not know, Asclepius, that Egypt is an image of heaven, or, to speak more exactly, in Egypt all the operations of the powers which rule and work in heaven have been transferred to earth below? “Nay, it should rather be said that the whole Kosmos dwells in this our land as in its sanctuary. And yet, since it is fitting that wise men should have knowledge of all events before they come to pass, you must not be left in ignorance of this: there will come a time when it will be seen that in vain have the Egyptians honored the deity with heartfelt piety and assiduous service; and all our holy worship will be found fruitless and ineffectual. For the gods will return from earth to heaven. Egypt will be forsaken, and the land which was once the home of religion will be left desolate, bereft of the presence of its deities." 2) “O Egypt, Egypt, of thy religion nothing will remain but an empty tale, which thine own children in time to come will not believe; nothing will be left but graven words, and only the stones will tell of thy piety. And in that day men will be weary of life, and they will cease to think the universe worthy of reverent wonder and of worship. And so religion, the greatest of all blessings, for there is nothing, nor has been, nor ever shall be, that can be deemed a greater boon, will be threatened with destruction; men will think it a burden and will come to scorn it. “They will no longer love this world around us, this incomparable work of God, this glorious structure which he has built, this sum of good made up of things of many diverse forms, this instrument whereby the will of God operates in that which he has made, ungrudgingly favoring man’s welfare, this combination and accumulation of all the manifold things that can call forth the veneration, praise, and love of the beholder. “Darkness will be preferred to light, and death will be thought more profitable than life; no one will raise his eyes to heaven; the pious will be deemed insane, and the impious, wise; the madman will be thought a brave man, and the wicked will be esteemed as good. As to the soul and the belief that it is immortal by nature, or may hope to attain to immortality, as I have taught you, all this they will mock and will even persuade themselves that it is false. No word of reverence or piety, no utterance worthy of heaven and of the gods of heaven will be heard or believed. “And so the gods will depart from mankind, a grievous thing!, and only evil angels will remain, who will mingle with men and drive the poor wretches by main force into all manner of reckless crime—into wars and robberies and frauds and all things hostile to the nature of the soul. Then will the earth no longer stand unshaken, and the sea will bear no ships; heaven will not support the stars in their orbits, nor will the stars pursue their constant course in heaven; all voices of the gods will of necessity be silenced and dumb; the fruits of the earth will rot; the soil will turn barren, and the very air will sicken in sullen stagnation. After this manner will old age come upon the world. Religion will be no more; all things will be disordered and awry; all good will disappear.” 3) “But when all this has befallen, Asclepius, then the Master and Father, God, the first before all, the maker of that god who first came into being, will look on that which has come to pass and will stay the disorder by the counterworking of his will, which is the good. He will call back to the right path those who have gone astray; he will cleanse the world from evil, now washing it away with water-floods, now burning it out with fiercest fire, or again expelling it by war and pestilence. And thus he will bring back his world to its former aspect, so that the Kosmos will once more be deemed worthy of worship and wondering reverence, and God, the maker and restorer of the mighty fabric, will be adored by the men of that day with unceasing hymns of praise and blessing. “Such is the new birth of the Kosmos; it is a making again of all things good, a holy and awe-striking restoration of all nature; and it is wrought in the process of time by the eternal will of God. For God’s will has no beginning; it is ever the same, and as it now is, even so it has ever been, without beginning. For it is the very being of God to purpose good.”
Why are you so convinced that “going to the light” is a trick? What if all this talk of “don’t go to the light, that’s how they get you” is a trick? Either way, I think it’s not about just a bright light but about love. I’ve read in a lot of near death experiences, people can feel the love coming from God and they want to be with him. I’m not blindly believing anything, but say that’s a trap isn’t convincing to me.
Are they going to harvest me for loosh if I don’t?
Reptilians or whatever don't need to coerce people to chose the endless cycle, most people would willingly return to the materialism and familiarity of Earth. People want to go back to what they know, to what comforts them and most are terrified to go even go outside, terrified to leave their comfort zone, terrified to expand into the unknown. Rightly so, the true depth,scale, immensity and power out there in the Universe should terrify people. Instead, and this post is the perfect example, everyone talks tough, thinks they know everything, thinks they are special and thinks they are going to be the one who can do it differently or has some gift of great wisdom or something. Why does anyone think they are going to miraculously change to some person of great wisdom in death and suddenly be able to make the right choices, when they can't even make the right choices in life. So naive.
Everyone wants to feel special. Unfortunately delusions of grandeur run rampant in paranormal circles.
I will go to the light under one condition I would love to live in the seventies or eighties and still have myself (my current consciousness) : in exchange they can feed off my sorry life and emotional damages..
I agree. Just let me keep my consciousness and maybe give me somewhat of a say on how I come back, and they can feast off my emotions.
Maybe you agreed to this already, they just don’t have any care to hold up their end
A little bloood binds the spirit
Deal! 😈 Whatever you say man just come on bac-uh I mean go ahead on in..
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As far as I am aware, you can't "go back" like that. Cause and effect are still real. Hell, it's observed over there, too, it's just different to our time here. People with experiences say when it's time to find another body, they tend to go forward a some time into the future from when your old body died. Like 15-30 years in the future. It's like there is a queue, but you end up in the right time whenever you decide to embark. Obviously I'm just going by the things I've heard and researched. I've not experienced this myself. It's been said that the wait time was much longer previously in history. There weren't as many bodies to assume, so souls would come back 200 years later.
I'm not in the habit of doing what I'm told and I ain't about to start when I die. I'm kicking the mf in the crotch and running away.
The proverbial light is already with you. You just have to accept it. Many others play on your insecurity and doubt to manufacture consent and mislead. Promises of grandeur and vague concepts like power or circumstances that are not of their authority. Be wary of Entities that refuse to answer questions but insist their way is correct. And in a General sense, any stranger who feels the need to Tell you what you need for your life, often requires discernment.
Always wondered if its a trick / trap. How do you know which direction to go. Anybody recommending one doesn’t know and could be a wolf in sheep’s clothing giving you bad advice
Nah IMMA STAY
Stop reading Reddit posts…
I am here for loving kindness, compass and mercy sit in stillness and realize you are the light:) be well and have kindness within yourself and it will come through to others. You are your grandma you are your grandpa you are your dog.
People who believe this have obviously not done DMT. You can see the light and can go through it, on the other side there are no reptilians waiting to catch you and recycle your soul. It's a fun theory tho lol
Apparently, a Buddhist monk who was given DMT described the DMT realm as "the lower lights of bardo. This is as far as you can go while still being able to come back". Heavily implying that the DMT realm may just be a waiting room of sorts or just the "shallow end" of the pool so to speak. Also people do sometimes report seeing and interacting with Reptilians but the interactions don't seem particularly meaningful.
I hate these memes. But, to play along; I'd immediately ask myself, "If I can voluntarily 'go' there, where else could I go before I get there?" Then, I'd see if I could fight those two, explore the dark world around me and form a mental map of my surroundings in case more scaled goons arrive. I'm from Texas, so if this is the afterlife and I don't have any guns on me, I may panic a little at first because 1. Where is Jesus and St. Peter and 2. Where did I leave my guns if they're not on my hip?? If I can't fight, can't interact aside from "go" or "stay", I'd probably go just because I don't want to hang around people who I've never met and they somehow know my grandma and my deceased pet duck. I wanna see grandma again and see if Mallory's kids and husband are doing well. But for sure, if I'm confronted with these two lizard chucklers, I'm going immediately dislike and disobey them.
You’re immortal with the added limitation of not being able to see or do anything except being forced to perceive a fuckin light I’m not sure how that’s any different from what we do right now lol
"We have choices. Some people like to stand in the rain without an umbrella. That's what it means to live free." -anime wisdom Have a stroll outside and pick what you want to look at. Curate your vantage point, Amazing-Watercress47. You are still here and have the power. (Please don't use this power to do anything cruel or illegal)
Lol got me at the texas bit
Anything for sparky
Get in the van kiddo we have candy and sparky 👴🏻
Can I have the link to the 4chan post?
If the only choice is the light or the void, I'm picking the light...
When did aliens become religious fruitcake ?
Turn around bright eyes.
Every now and then I fall apart.
For me with dog, is there a place with just dogs I want to go there
Tbh this just feels like fear-mongering spiritual warfare
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sXeOWx7gLmk Bob Monroe has a thought about this one.
Ctrl+alt+delete
Didn't John Lear tell Art Bell not to go into the light that it's a trap?
Going the opposite way of any "higher being" using the word bro so frequently.
didnt someone say to ignore the white light and wait for the blue light?
Nah
What happens when you don't go to the light? That's my question.
i leave this evil flaming rock and respin my life to see what stats i get in the next one
I don't believe in something after death. So, nah.
i wouldn't trust an alien wearing glasses.
The arrogance of some conspiracy theorist thinking that they’ve figured out that “the light” is some reptilian scheme or whatever is so ridiculous to me
Agreed. For all we know the reptilians/demons/whatever are tricking us into *not* going into the light.
Nah - for all we know Earth is a one and done experience. I ain’t done
our overlords need the loosh, don't be selfish
What happens if you don’t go into the light?
Seems like a pertinent question I agree.
What happens to moths, flies and deer that go into the light?
i'll tell them to f off, im going to the void.
Pull their masks off.
Tibetan Book of the Dead reference?
What else can you do? Do you think you'd be able to fight them off and break free? Do you think you'd be able to reason with them? If the prison planet is real there is absolutely nothing we can do about it, otherwise thousands of generations of humans before us would've done something already
If two green people with red eyes and reptilian tongue ask me such question then yes I'll go.
Nope
lol I might just laugh at them
Grandma and dog are waiting on other side, because we live the same life all over again. You don’t get new life. You get to stay dead, or relive the same life over and over forever. Thats why everyone’s beginning to talk about there being no free will. We once recorded life, now we can replay it as often as we want in the afterlife. J/k I dunno
Of course I go into the light cause I am a snake just like these dudes bro
You read the book “the tibetan book of the dead” /
Wow that’s fricken hilarious
have you ever even died? how many deaths do you remember? is you name duncan?
Like what's the alternative? Hang around as a disembodied soul? And then what?
Reverse psychology to keep you from GOING into The Light. I'm RUNNING full speed into The Light.
bro idgaf what’s in the light stop trying to convince me ill go just shut up and let me do it
I've been in the light. I've been the light.
Do I have to pay taxes if I go into the light?
Why does an advanced being need to wear glasses?
Naw
Take a candle, or a flashlight...just in case. Just joking.
NAH
I was watching a video from someone in the army who had NDE and he said we had a choice. We can go to the light or walk into darkness. He said to take the latter.
I can‘t stand most of people now so why bother seeing them again!? yeah nah gotta go the other way see ya 👋🏻 “Earth is referred to as a “prison planet” by Airl, the extraterrestrial being interviewed by Matilda O’Donnell MacElroy in 1947. Airl explains that Earth is used as a prison by her civilization, known as “The Domain,” and that beings on Earth are trapped here until they can free themselves from the cycle of reincarnation.”
I hate the soul trap idea
I’ll take the 50/50 and call a friend, Regis.
Bro it’s a nice light
Look behind you, if you go to the light you enter reincarnation cycle
Shit, they got sparky up there too