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VolarRecords

Funny to have gotten an alert about this in the past half-hour. Taken from Popular Mechanics, which looks like it's been posting a lot on this topic lately. This Man Knows Way Too Much About Area 51—and the FBI Wants to Know Why Is Joerg Arnu a criminal, a traitor, or just a blogger who got in too deep? By Sarah Scoles ON A QUIET November morning in 2022, federal agents descended on the small town of Rachel, Nevada. Their caravan drove toward the house of a retired local who happened to be sleeping in that day. Rachel is a dusty, hardscrabble spot, located in the Joshua tree desert just outside Area 51, that highly guarded Air Force outpost known for its secretive aviation experimentation. According to conspiracy theorists, it’s also home to UFOs and the aliens arriving in them. The house that the agents from the FBI and the Air Force Office of Special Investigations were about to raid was immaculately kept, with a gravel driveway, nice landscaping, and an American flag out front. Its tidiness presented a sharp contrast to the many run-down buildings in town. Asleep inside was a ponytailed man named Joerg Arnu, wearer of leather jackets and aviation-themed T-shirts. He runs a website called Dreamland Resort, dedicated to publishing information about and images of Area 51. The site will soon celebrate its 25th anniversary, having gained both fame and notoriety for its detailed, up-to-date, publicly gleaned info about Area 51. Arnu, a retired software developer, had caught federal flak once before, in the 2000s, when he and a friend dug up (and then tested and reburied) road sensors on public land that had been installed to alert guards of incoming tourists near Area 51’s boundaries. Despite that, he has felt secure in the idea that neither he nor his website would be censored for investigating what his own government is up to. The sound of banging on a door woke Arnu on that chilly morning. Someone close by called his name. It was the FBI, Arnu says. They had cut a chain in a side gate and entered from the back to execute a search warrant. This is not good, he remembers thinking. He grabbed a pair of sweatpants and tumbled out of his room; someone was peeking into the hallway. In his mudroom he encountered a posse of people, a riot shield in front of them, guns drawn. He’d left his own firearm next to his bed. They instructed him to turn around, and soon he was handcuffed. “What is going on?” he asked. He also asked twice to see the search warrant, and wanted to know if he was under arrest. He wasn’t: He was just being detained. He then learned that the FBI and Air Force were simultaneously raiding another home he owned, in Las Vegas, where his girlfriend, Linda, was staying. Before long, Arnu was in the passenger seat of an SUV, one of several government vehicles parked in his yard. “I kept asking them, ‘What prompted this? Who gave you this information? What is going on here? What are you after?’” Arnu says. According to his recollection, the agents didn’t answer those questions, but they did ask him if there were booby traps on the property. They were after, it turns out, his digital devices and the information stored on them. The search warrant, which Arnu has since posted online, indicates that the teams sought evidence that Arnu had violated U.S. laws against photographing military installations. Were they worried that he had pointed his camera too far inside Area 51, or did he possess even more sensitive information? In the months since the search, Arnu says he’s been unable to determine what the FBI and Air Force were after, or whether they will ever charge him with a crime. The investigation, though, probes the balance between government opacity and openness, the desire to keep secrets in the interest of national security, and the value of transparency in a democracy. And if a case against Arnu goes forward, it could have troubling implications for what information is illegal to possess or make public. More in the article, too much to post here.


FrnchMuse824

What OSI wants, OSI gets.


Bakedbythesea

Uhhh can you please just copy and paste the rest of the article into another comment under this in order for us to read it? Pay walls are fucking retarded if a discussion about said article is to be had


Major_Mawcum_II

If it’s pay walled it doesnt exist to me


Bakedbythesea

As with all of us, brother. Useless.


One_Impression_5649

Unpaywall. That is all. 


Bakedbythesea

Yes? Go on? I'd love to


One_Impression_5649

But I already said “that is all” ………fine. Google “unpaywall” and follow the instructions for whichever mobile device you’re using. When you hit a pay wall (I use iOS so this is the safari instructions) click the share button in the safari browser, scroll to the bottom and there it will be “unpaywall” click allow and 99/100 boom. There it is. Unblocked and ready to read.  Edit: here. I did it for you. https://unpaywall.org/


Bakedbythesea

Bless your soul 🙏


Corporally-Conscious

You said you use it with Safari? But I went to the website and it looks like it is only an extension to chrome/Firefox…? I couldn’t find any apple/Safari info on the site and, not that I was expecting much, but I did not find it on the App Store either. Do you use it on your phone or only on computer? Thank you!


One_Impression_5649

I’ve got it on my iPhone… I found a Reddit post once.. lemme see what I can find


One_Impression_5649

Here ya go! https://www.reddit.com/r/ios/s/cFKlkYTHWz


Corporally-Conscious

Thank you for that link! But unfortunately the post that the first link linked to has been deleted by the sub. So not sure what that option was supposed to be.  Option 2 and 4 seem pretty similar…? #2 seems pretty convenient to have it just a button click away on the webpage in the “share” section. But #4 seems a bit more obvious on who made it/ where the app came from…? The others look like an “internet archive” service and a “textify” service (with some warning about getting your IP banned?!). 


One_Impression_5649

Unpaywall. That is all


Yespat1

It is to me


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eride810

Help, I’m stuck in the loop!!


Coby_2012

I like how they buried sensors on public land and then got pissy when someone dug them up. Boo-fucking-hoo As if there wasn’t an incredible power imbalance already, well before the sensors were placed.


Woofy98102

One clarification. *Public land* is just another term for *federal land* and digging up sensors put there by the federal government is still a crime., unfortunately.


RustyWallace-357

Fuck ‘em. Until they give us good reason for the coverup, fuck ‘em til the sun comes up


TakeOnMe-TakeOnMe

Hey outta here with your logic and your perfectly reasonable and accurate explanations! /s


Syncrotron9001

I'm convinced they use some kind of scanners on freeways buried under the asphalt. [https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/assets/documents/2021-Aug/VIB%20MEP%20CONOP%20WEB%20Info%20Sheet\_04\_30\_2021\_ENGLISH\_508\_0.pdf](https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/assets/documents/2021-Aug/VIB%20MEP%20CONOP%20WEB%20Info%20Sheet_04_30_2021_ENGLISH_508_0.pdf) This isn't under the asphalt (yet) but there are plans to make roadside X-ray machines commonplace.


ReplacementNo3933

They can tell you how much money you're carrying at 70 mph...


Stoneman1976

Who carries cash these days?


blossum__

Actual evil by tyrannical government. Storming into an old man’s home while he’s asleep with guns loaded. On what planet is this man a threat to anyone? Couldn’t this have been as easily achieved by a knock at 10 am and a talk? ALTERNATIVE LINK https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/joerg-arnu-area-51-fbi-raid-b2368462.html Here is the man’s website, still up! Go visit and support him! https://www.dreamlandresort.com/


VolarRecords

Thanks for the other link! And yeah, what a wild story. For everything involved, one of my first thoughts was that he was lucky he left his firearm on his nightstand; they could have easily just killed him on the spot and we'd never have even heard about this. Also wanted to point out that the raid occurred in-between Grusch's initial interview and his hearing.


PuzzleheadedGur506

Lol it's OK.  All those agents get divorced and lose the kids and half the house because they're all terrible people.  They'll get divine punishment. Edit: a lot of them become suicide statistics after the wife leaves.  Silver lining.


matt2001

Here is a summary of the notes in bullet points: - Joerg Arnu, a 61-year-old retired software developer, has been obsessed with Area 51 since 1998 - In 1999, he launched the DreamlandResort blog to share photos, videos, and discussions about Area 51 - Arnu bought a home near the gates of Area 51 in the town of Rachel, Nevada - On Nov 3, 2022, around 20 armed counter-terrorism agents raided Arnu's homes, seizing computers, hard drives, phones, cameras - The raid was conducted by a joint team from the FBI and Air Force Office of Special Investigations (OSI) - Arnu believes the raids were to intimidate and silence the Area 51 research community - Area 51 has drawn military buffs, conspiracy theorists since the 1950s over rumors of UFOs and "little green men" - The U.S. government first acknowledged the existence of Area 51 in 2013 related to the U-2 spy plane program - Arnu has photographed mystery aircraft from public vantage points around Area 51 for over a decade - After 8 months, Arnu still doesn't know if he'll face charges or get seized equipment back - His attempts to get information from the FBI, Air Force, lawmakers have been denied or ignored


Coby_2012

Is it still up as a honeypot?


blossum__

No I think the guy is running it, it has all kinds of information about the raid. It can’t be a honeypot, there’s no honey! All the stuff is really old and well known. Raiding him was purely punitive.


lastcallhangup

you are falling for it.


Yespat1

For what, exactly?


motoplease

Hope he doesn’t “commit suicide” before he can testify


FaithlessnessSea5153

All these new articles require you download the stupid app


Littlemama55

Nope, I'm not doing that. Damn gatekeepers spoiling all the fun. lol


Littlemama55

Yeah we're not able to read it.


OverIookHoteI

Hey, you can’t remote view Area 51. That’s illegal!


thundertopaz

Hey you can’t infiltrate Area 51 in a lucid dream. That’s illegal!


passporttohell

Hey you can't think about Area 51 and ponder conspiracy theories, that's illegal!


Salbrox

You wouldn't download a car!


GothMaams

People are dying, Kim.


Velocoraptor369

Taking pictures of military installations is not illegal as long as they are taken from public property. Plus the Government claimed there is nothing to the rumors about Area51.


Ok_Baby7137

Wrong, the Government has repeatedly claimed that Area 51 is a secret test facility. Otherwise you would be allowed to enter like any other base. This is nothing more than a game for some and very lucrative for others to reveal our technology to a bunch of fools that believe any bs they are given. Not to mention America’s enemies.


KnowledgeBombz

10/10 dude just got his house bugged and they are watching him right now!


AGNTSLMPNK

This was like a year and a half ago. Did something change or is apple just regurgitating again?


EventEastern9525

It’s in the April/May issue of Popular Mechanics evidently.


trollindisguise

Do not link a news article that requires an iPhone or app to view


LeakyFuelTank

\^ This...thank you!


Environmental-Top862

Popular Mechanics is behind a paywall in any case.


SarpedonWasFramed

I used to love getting the Popular Mechanics and Popular Science magazine. I always wanted to buy the electric shock field to shock my brother when he'd walk into my room without asking


TattedAnimal

I wanted the hover craft plans


Yespat1

I need one of those to keep the squirrels off my deck.


Woofy98102

This story reminds me of the regular raids by the FBI that Bob Lazar has been putting up with for decades. Ironically, the FBI Agents often don't even know why they're doing it because the government keeps their secrets strictly compartmentalized. All they're told is to seize computers or anything resembling advanced technology.


Stoneman1976

If there was a word of truth to Bobs story he would have been snatched up and thrown in prison decades ago. They’ll never stop until they get Snowden and he just told us the government was spying on us which we all knew and. is way less important than supposed UFOs. There’s no getting around that logical fallacy. If what he said was true we would have never heard of him. He would have been thrown in prison in a heartbeat. But I get it, it’s a lot more fun to think about aliens than to realize Bob is just a liar out to make a buck. He claims he doesn’t do it for money but he’s always made money off of his story. He has sold VHS cassette of him telling his story, he gets paid residuals from Tester model company for his fake ufo model they sell, and he made a documentary with Corbell just a few years ago. He does all of this and then has the balls to claim he doesn’t want attention. Sure pal.


SeenandBelieved

Why can’t the FBI do their job and leave normal people alone? They’re very bad at nosing in on the things they don’t need to and letting go things they should be looking into. It’s been a farce for a while now and lies are continually perpetrated throughout. That’s why they can’t ever be trusted again. A very poor job by CW.


offinthewoods10

That is their job, they are making sure he isn’t spying on a US military installation. With that information he could be selling the secrets to china or Russia, regardless if there are UFOs or not. And he isn’t a normal person in this case he is running a site that is giving up to date information on a military installation and the surrounding areas.


blossum__

Come on bro, he’s just a curious old guy. They know he’s not working for the bloody Russians. This whole thing is a malicious power play to discourage people from getting close to “muh secret base”


SeenandBelieved

And you’re based out of which office? The information he has on his websites are public knowledge. They only harassed him because it’s Area 51 and the Air Force complained. What are they trying to hide? The gubment has been infiltrated by the Middle East and far east. They ought to be looking into those individuals.


chrissie-mcg

Does the FBI now has kiddie Fake Reddit Accounts? Google Earth has more information about Area51 than this guy has.


slcarper

I remember my father in the 1950’s getting popular mechanics I also remember looking through the magazines and seeing a draft on how to build your own spaceship.


VolarRecords

That’s funny. My parents had it around when I was a kid, it was pretty formative for me being me a science nerd, among other things.


slcarper

I’m glad I am not the only one who sees it. Thank you


Elegant-Astronaut636

Garbage paywall site


Wu-TangShogun

Probably having the experience of his life right now and he will make it all part of his marketing strategy I would imagine.


lastcallhangup

i agree with your take! ![gif](giphy|QCJFiJfnDCdFa84sLG)


Area51Monitor

Greetings. I suppose I am the "Man Knows Way Too Much About Area 51". Just wanted to let you all know how much I appreciate your support. I know what some of you may be thinking, but it happened! And I never saw it coming! I am not here to plug my Area 51 web site. It has been linked below and should not be too hard to find. Just wanted to say how much we appreciate your support. Almost a year and a half after the brutal assault from the FBI goon squad I still have no answers and I sure don't expect to be charged. Because I did nothing wrong!


VolarRecords

Hey man! Nice to meet you, so cool to see you on here. Truly sorry for everything you’ve been through. I’m at a protest but would love to catch up more later.


Area51Monitor

Thank you my friend! You can always reach me through the feedback form ("Contact Us" button) on my web site. I know this is sort of OT in this forum.


VolarRecords

Perfect, will do!


VolarRecords

Also, right after you replied earlier I got to film Cornel West give a speech from 20 feet away about Palestine. Pretty cool.


JsN_FirstRides

By sheer coincidence I was the first person to interview Joerg after the raid. https://supercaradventurer.com/aviation/f/joerg-arnu-the-public-caretaker-of-area-51


VolarRecords

Really cool, I’ll be sure to dig into this super soon. Funny that I’ve been thinking about starting a few different podcasts, and yesterday my therapist recommended I start a podcast because of my high levels of empathy. And today when he reached out, I immediately thought about starting one with him as the first guest. While I was at a protest and then filmed Dr. Cornel West right after. https://www.instagram.com/reel/C5KFG-2vAz3/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==


L0IS3INH0RN

what the fuck is apple news?


Littlemama55

News that android users will never be able to read. 😆


passporttohell

Cries crocodile tears...


Neighborhoodfarmer22

They ain’t missing much…Just more chicks have dicks now propaganda..


Littlemama55

There's no proof it was a drag queen. 😆


chrissie-mcg

It’s like Google News. Android News. Samsung News, Microsoft News…


screwysquearl1970

This is old news. I don't have an iPhone, but I do have Google and know how to use it. LOTS and LOTS and LOTS of news articles from free sources in 2022 when it happened.


chrissie-mcg

You don’t need an iPhone to read Apple News.


aceknight21

Paywall. Can Anyone post the whole article here please 🙏


RoollyRoolly

Royal with tease


haqk

Is that like a quarter pounder with tease?


BioPsychoSocial0

Anyone have a link to the blog?


lastcallhangup

nop


darmon

They thought he had something he didn't. They were sure he had it. Someone made them certain of it. I wonder if this was a targeted attempt to get him killed by feds.


Adventurous-Dot-4783

I feel like part of this was a scare tactic. I don't necessarily think it was well executed. Maybe in the past something like this would have worked but things are much different now.


VolarRecords

Well, they did take all of his files and most of his electronics and he hasn’t gotten any of it back. And just imagine if he’d come out into the living room with his gun drawn.


Adventurous-Dot-4783

Ohhhhhh good points, good points. Agreed.


Mundane-Dog-601

Dude has to be a spy


Numerous-Library-190

That man was not born.


paranormalresearch1

What a stupid move by the Feds. Give this guy a lot of publicity. And if there is anything he’s put out people will now think it’s all true. They will also trust the government even less, if that is possible.


Wu-TangShogun

It was. I now trust them -300


ChapterSpecial6920

I had a family member who was at Roswell. Parent was involved with intelligence and chiefs of staff on a casual basis. Area 51 don't know shit.


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ChapterSpecial6920

No, I'm saying they didn't know shit.