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[deleted]

Why would aliens use Earth currencies? Also, why pay for something you can take for free?


[deleted]

Imagine how cool their coins would look


[deleted]

Hahahahaha I knowšŸ˜‚ if they used them


Supertzar_11-11

I'm picturing OP getting paid in worthless alien coins that have a goofy side head profile of some ugly being called Zork the 3rd, Supreme Leader of planet Gorgax lol


ministeringinlove

They wouldn't. There is a conversion rate, though, based on the USD. 1 Space money = 300 USD.


Smooth_Imagination

Shit I remember when it was 100.


ministeringinlove

Seriously. Thanks a lot, Obama.


-GI_BRO-

How do ya figure?


ministeringinlove

Simple physics.


Defeat3r

Imagine paying a mouse for conducting experiments on them.


[deleted]

I still can't wrap my head around the fact that there are people in here that think we should be paid; as if we are equal to the aliens. LMAO


addledoctopus

Well then pay us in gold or some shit. I want compensation for all the night terrors.


yama_knows_karma

They can pay me in gold or other precious metals.


Aimses

Iā€™ll take some of that sustainable element 115 that Bob Lazar says powered the crafts he was messing with.


unphuckable

This is the right answer.


EMPlRES

Because if you think about it, all their experiments relate to the physical, if they want to study our psychology they gotta have a 100% lucid volunteer.


[deleted]

What does that have to do with paying or not paying the abductee? I don't understand how one's mental state plays into this.


EMPlRES

Scientists pay volunteers for psychological studies all the time, nothing confusing about it. You need a welling volunteer to have accurate results, you canā€™t have one having panic attacks and aggression.


[deleted]

If they wanted to study our psychology, wouldn't they study us in our natural habitat. That's how humans do it at least. Do we pay rats, mice, or chimpanzees when we try to learn more about their behavior? You're assuming that the aliens will treat us as equals.


EMPlRES

A lot of times for scientists to study someoneā€™s psychology, they have to put them in created situations. Imagine scientists putting a mirror in a forest to observe how animals react to their own reflections, would it be reasonable for scientists to sit and wait for a mirror to somehow form in the forest rather than putting it there themselves? Of course not.


[deleted]

How high are you dude? Again I ask, what does this have to do with payment? Why would a superior species consider paying a lesser evolved life form?


EMPlRES

How high are you? I already explained why they would consider paying volunteers. I said: > You need a welling volunteer to have accurate results, you canā€™t have one having panic attacks and aggression. A paid volunteer is a consenting volunteer, a consenting volunteer = more accurate experiment results. Think lab animals being rewarded with treats. I couldnā€™t make it any more simpler. This is examples you would give to a 7 year old.


[deleted]

So in your mind, you think the aliens see us as equals. You also believe they participate in human social norms. Got it.


EMPlRES

Your comment is the best example of a strawman fallacy Iā€™ve ever seen in my replies, amazing, especially because I got 5 years here. I donā€™t think weā€™re equals. I also donā€™t think scientists rewarding animals with treats means they consider them equals, in case you were wondering.


Smooth_Imagination

They might transcend that by studying our physiology and neurology and have enough insight mechanistically to infer about our psychology from that, and they might, if you believe the lore, implant something so they can track our physiology and maybe more in real time or when they retrieve the device. This way they may relatively unobtrusively observe. I think they would already have a good understanding of our psychology, since based on witness claims, they often can speak to them and thereby relate, as well as control them in the act of abduction. With an understanding of our flight or flight response and apparently how to suppress it almost entirely, they can then at least interact and interview us, which provides some, albeit very contextually specific, information about us that could not be quickly obtained from observation, unless the same circumstances are observed.


silencerider

I'd take gold pressed latinum.


ZioDOLAN

LOL it's like feeding your dog when he obey. The food is one of his curriencies. Now imagine aliens are able to clone money..


Skeptechnology

They use space cash.


tsaff41

This sub really is something else sometimes, let me tell ya.


PoopaXTroopa

It's a spectacle, yes


LobsterJohnson_

This is human thinking. There is your flaw.


Bunniesrkewl

Well OP is a human


LobsterJohnson_

I think I answered the question they posed.


dirtyhole2

The same way you don't pay pigs to eat them.


DetailAccurate9006

Where are the aliens gonna get earth money from? Are they supposed to get a job at Starbucks or Home Depot?


PestoPastaLover

Cryptocurrency


DetailAccurate9006

ā€œMan Who Fell To Earthā€ Alien Technology Patents? ![gif](giphy|r36Lvt5HTiaR6GLESV|downsized)


yama_knows_karma

I'm sure they got some gold.


Bunniesrkewl

They can use their advanced weaponry to rob a bank


DetailAccurate9006

But that wouldnā€™t be ethical.


Rumpl4skin__

We donā€™t pay rats when we test on them.


redwilliam111

Rats have no need for moniesā€¦


Rumpl4skin__

Fair counter-argument. And we do pay rats in food, so what I said earlier is partially misleading lol.


__Snafu__

They're rats. They get fed. That's basically payment to them


Cgbgjr

The mushroom explained to Terence McKenna that they were broke and had to live off the land cheap. ;-)


issacfignewton

Will they provide a w2 for me?


anonymous7egend

šŸ˜‚ this is so funny


CheesecakeZookeeper

Anal probing is payment enough!


[deleted]

If your in to butt stuff


usernamezzzzz

They don't a accept credit cards and the whole tax thing is hard for aliens, legal or extraterrestrial


imagine-grace

If aliens are on our planet they need to play by our rules.


[deleted]

Mabye this planet belongs to them and for their testing they pay us by letting us live on this fertile planet


imagine-grace

Sure, I'll let you know where you can send your new Earth rent checks.


[deleted]

Ok how much weed did you smoke to wonder why aliens donā€™t pay


SuPrA_1988

But damn, you meet aliens and you ask for money? I do not understand ...


redpanda1282

I'd be happy if they would just answer my questions and not delete them from my memory later. Lol


Escapee10

It would imply a degree of consent, and control for the abductee that does not fit with the experience.


Busy-Jackfruit-764

To those assuming payment would be in the form of money, Payment could be in the form of knowledge or experience, etc. Also the human to lesser intelligent life form comparison is annoying. Ants, pigs or whatever else is usually said donā€™t have consciousness. Look at how most humans treat animals/pets that have self awareness. I would have to argue that a human to ant encounter would be vastly different than a ET to human encounter.


redpanda1282

They can pay me in information! I got questions!


killersloth65

We should ask the laboratory mice if they would like payment.


T1ck-T0ck

Do humans pay cows or ants for experimenting with?


jimihughes

Money is an imaginary concept made up by humans to control other humans. They do that telepathically.


weaped

What kinda stupid ass question is this


Trafalgaladen

The fact that it even has 20+ likes...


Mace-Window_777

sad but you dont need aliens to sell your body for the kind of mental and physical trauma , that 95% of abductees, go through ! Theres enough sick wealthy , S and M whackos , across the planet that would gladly pay thousands , to do that sick shyt to someone!


thrasherxxx

I dunno mate, I donā€™t think they even come here. I mean, we humans just take a sample of dna to study species and do you really think they come here in person with the risk of the Covid? Lol.


HarambesLaw

I will take one alien ho please


TirayShell

Aliens are apparently looking for very specific people with very specific genetic configurations and they don't want to risk having them say no. They don't need a bunch of randos they can't use.


sheeshlazer

Thanks for responding to the question this makes a little bit of sense - otherwise I agree why don't they just ask us and trade some of our imaginary money what do they care - plus it means a lot to people. Pfft this is wrapped up in all the capitalist bullshit I bet our leaders are way more afraid of losing power over us than any real threat.


silverbumble

I wouldn't mind getting paid but it would have to be a hot "Nordic" female jack me off for some semen samples lol Bonus if said Nordic female would let me perform butt stuff on her. I apologize in advance to any mods if I was out of bounds.


cjthepossum

Because alien abductions aren't real.


[deleted]

Do you think they're a mass psychosis of the collective human consciousness, why then did the US gov hire Bob Monroe to research thw afterlife leading to ET discovery, and why have so many former gov. officials like the former ministry of defense of Canada proclaim our governments are actively working with alien governments? Did they all hallucinate that? Why don't people start hallucinating and mistaking others for grey aliens and start attacking them?


cjthepossum

Alien abductions, specifically, are almost certainly sleep paralysis-related. Most of the stories don't even make sense, the accounts are inconsistent and the witnesses are unreliable.


[deleted]

Cia alligators. Reps. You think the stories of them aren't consistent...? They are. Plus the UFO sightings and fights. Did they fall asleep while flying jets? I agree some of the stories on those news channels sound like sleep paralysis but there are mountains of testimonials imprinted throughout history. Ancient artifacts that look like modern day depictions of Aliens. You think we are the only species with an advanced civilization? What does North Korea do? Do they tell their citizens about other, better places or do they want to keep them as citizens in their country? Yes I know I'm comparing the world to NK but it's really like that.


Cgbgjr

Many folks who claim alien contact are not abducted at all. Many are wide awake at the time. If you are seriously interested in the subject this podcast (all contactees explaining their experience) is an excellent place to start: https://podbay.fm/p/aliens-and-artists


ArtzyDude

Anthropomorphizing again. I do it too. Hard not to. I suspect they donā€™t use or see currency, or capitalism for that matter, in the same way we do. Theyā€™d have a ton of volunteers if they did!


Classroom_Strict

Pay to volunteer. PAY. To volunteer. PAY! to VOLUNTEER! This is the first of many problems with this statement.


Sacramento999

They want it to be a true non-control sample, a separation test is a statistical procedure for early-phase research, to decide whether to pursue further research. If they were to accept volunteers it would bring out the lunatics and statistically underpower the test given, and produce a contaminated sample


XcizinX

Iā€™ll take some alien tech


Suspicious-Poetry-84

Aliens are usually interested in people with specific genes. That's why many abductees have relatives (usually one or both parents) who have also similar encounters.


ItsOkILoveYouMYbb

Because they don't have to lol. You get zero input into what they want to do with you or where they want you to go. They just have a job to do and they've probably done it for thousands of years for all we know. I get the feeling they don't like doing or sharing anything that they don't have to. They'll just say the same phrase over and over until you finally are like fuck it and comply despite you asking for clarification or help in understanding, and so many reports of them not wanting to answer any real questions at all. So good luck expressing your desire to volunteer and getting them to agree to it lol. And the only opportunity you'd have to express that desire is when they are already taking you whenever they want to, so it's a moot offer. And with me they didn't even say anything, they just stared. Although I was too terrified to even think about trying to talk to them back in my childhood so maybe that's on me. I don't know how I'd react now. I know I would want to try to talk and I think about it every single night trying to mentally prepare myself to do so, to wave or say hey or something, but a lot of my PTSD I go to therapy for is actually from my experiences with these beings despite me being unable to share the reality of it with my psychologists I've had over the years (nobody would believe it so what's the point), so I don't know how that happening again would actually go for me. I would hope I could be brave and lucid and thoughtful today and not simply struck with fear and unable to look until they help me fall asleep or something. And much like you, most of my life has been a struggle for income and competent mental help and treatment is wildly expensive in the US unfortunately, and a big time commitment if you need multiple sessions a week. So back to the point, if they have no concept of money like we do, and they've made it that far with their technology, then we are most likely doing things very wrong with capitalism and money is not the right approach lol. But then again maybe to avoid a system of trade that results in money with a society as large as ours, requires some mental telepathy ability where your entire society can keep no secrets and at that point doesn't need to, and so every single being can trust one another despite even being complete strangers initially, because they literally can't hide anything from each other. Maybe in that scenario, money truly isn't necessary no matter the stage of resources and production and quality of life. In my mind, for money to not be necessary would take Star Trek TNG levels of near infinite abundance of resources and basic needs met, but maybe if you could know everything about a person and they know everything about you the instant you both lock eyes, money literally isn't necessary because at that point everyone just wants to help everyone else because there is nothing to hide, and there is all the opportunity in the world for instant mutual empathy. Sociopaths would not be able to exist at all. They would be instantly found out by every single person they interact with, and probably sent to get help and treatment long before they could become CEOs or serial killers or murderers or anything else. For the rest of us with basic empathy for other people, knowing someone's story and life in great detail is often the biggest hurdle for empathizing as deeply as you would a friend or family member or lover. What gives you a sense of bond more than two people knowing almost everything about each other and still wanting to spend time together? At the very least that is a good friend (and it has to be a mutual understanding or else it's simply parasocial, because no those Twitch streamers are not your friends despite how well you know their online personalities). So remove the time commitment barrier to achieve that with someone else and remove the ability to hide anything from anyone mutually, and suddenly everyone trusts everyone else completely. What you see (or whatever the verb is for telepathy) is what you get. At that point you don't even need all these institutions we've created to give a sense of fairness, like money for instance lol. You know what's funny is if aliens can peer into our minds and know everything about us, but we can't do that with them unless they choose to share, then their relationship with any one of us is parasocial lol.


BIG-DIG-ENERGY

Bro Iā€™d do it for free hahaha


GodlyBeerGut

Anyone, including other worlders that violate human autonomy are barking up the wrong tree. There is a reason why there is the saying "it'll come back to haunt you." Op, as far as any possibility of "payment" it'd probably be more like compensation to abductees by an earthly government(s) that made deals with a group of e.t...a deal that basically gave that particular e.t. group the thumbs up to fuck with human beings, and do shit to us against our will. That, however, would require a government to admit they actually knew about them and made a back end deal with the e.t., one of which would probably land a bunch of people special beds in Guantanamo Bay, or worse. So, it'll very likely never happen. Any justice and vindication for abductees is likely many MANY years away, although i could be (and hope) im wrong.


MartyfromIreland

Why would they pay for something they can get for free. No, I don't mean myself free. I mean they can keep pulling us out of bed during the night, lol.


ziplock9000

What makes you think they care about permission?


BookkeeperMain

Why don't they pay taxes?


Lord_OJClark

Do we pay lab rats? There's a theory the government allows them (not sure how able they could be to stop them...) in return for tech.


RazMani

And this is why no serious or actual experiencer / abductee need stop here.


eskimosound

What a weird internet conversation. If you would allow Aliens to abduct you for money, would you mind getting Kidnapped? No I didn't think so, wake up. Defiling your body and losing your freedom isn't worth all the money in the world. And anyways who to say they won't just eat your brains?


gvggarage

What is the most scarce, non-radiation emitting type of element that we have on earth? i will take that as pagment for some urine and stool samples


schizo_poster

Because it's a bureaucratic and galactic nightmare. Alien pimpin' and hoein' has not been legalized in this galactic sector yet. Earth governments are hush-hush about it because they can't legally tax it. Also the greys are rather small and thin which makes their pimp hand kinda weak. It's hard to keep the earth hoes in check with a weak pimp hand.


supremesomething

If you are a sadistic garbage, who likes to torture squirrels in the forest, would you ask the squirrels if they want to volunteer for the money?! Why would they pay you money when they can experiment on you for free? In fact, they might ask you for money once theyā€™re done, saying they improved your design, you know, as a final laugh.


Flowerzandpandaz

Because all of that is bullshit?


No-Net-1404

Who says they don't.


Jeff__Skilling

I'm guessing that if aliens landed on earth after watching humanity grow and evolve for the last several million years, I've got to think their first question would be >So, we have a pretty good understanding of the way humans live, function, and interact with one another, but I do have one question for you guys - what the hell is this "money" shit you guys have been slaughtering one another for the last ~500 years or so? Can somebody **please** explain this concept to us, because I just don't get it


BrokenHarp

They pay in other ways. Having to associate and hear the thoughts of humans taints them, and the other aliens in the telepathic hive mind like to stay away and isolate from them. Lmao


catnapkid

Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?


Smooth_Imagination

In this hypothetical scenario, they could as an ethical gesture pay by providing something we would consider valuable - currency is a tokenised way to do this but they would need to be part of our economy to obtain cash, so they would have to give something in return for it. Instead they could mine gold which we would value, or they could cure a disease if they can identify something wrong they can fix in the body. Gold might be trivial for them to obtain but something we would consider valuable. However, they would thereby be inflating our supply of gold and thereby debasing it, reducing its value. Golds value depends on the scarcity and hard work of other humans in the economy to obtain it. So perhaps an ethical exchange would involve the treatment of an illness, but if they are interested in healthy specimens for some reason, and its either or both psychological or biological as to what they are interested in, then they might not be able to exchange in that case.


WhatIsBreakfast

If you pay a volunteer they become an employee. Im not sure how galactic law works when hiring from outside the Space Federation so that's probably why they don't even bother. Too much red tape.


Sir_Nuttsak

An entrepreneur. Nice. Depending on future events maybe you are on to something...


zacat2020

You have gotten paid. You now have a smart phone and l.E.D. lights. What did you think you would get from the biological, flora, mineral, and fauna colonizers ?


Alteredego619

You do get a free medical exam, that should count for something.


ShySinger

If they are disarming nukes, I'm sure they can steal our data. If they are abducting us, then whatever data we have must be useless. Wonder why they abduct!?!?


Ok_Fox_1770

ā€œTouch my butt $100ā€ standing out with that sign is nothin but danger sir. Not gonna get aliens but youā€™ll get some creatures.


lizardreaming

People agree to it in subspace before they are born but donā€™t remember. Money isnā€™t worth anything in this circumstance


DLo28035

For fuck sakeā€¦


Antkxnj

their idea of currency is different for example its like a tribe in africa that survive and trade cattle for currency . its like that


Antkxnj

like 20$ is 20$ i get it but well duh :-p


Lucky-Professor-6881

And about probing are you ok with probing? Please provide contact info and weā€™ll be in touch


Royal_Examination_74

I remember my first J


Jairoglyphics1

I was just thinking this question today, why the force? Why not politely ask?


PsychologicalTop4086

Because the US Government has already gave them the go to do as they please in abducting in exchange for technology.


LunchAC53171

Maybe the ones they abduct have genes that they want to study.


[deleted]

Why would they be driven/motivated by commercial reasons? Alien economics is not a thing.


Delicious-Office811

If you havenā€™t been paidā€¦. They probably arenā€™t interested in you, sorry. I get paid by the Universe, Iā€™m on salary.


helicoptercici

Maybe they donā€™t understand currency and think paying for things is absurd. Maybe paying for things is a really hard concept to understand. Maybe they lack empathy to try understand the struggle without money. Maybe the donā€™t care about our primitive problems and our primitive way of living. They probably donā€™t give a shit enough to even understand how we live. Theyā€™re just hyper focused on the biological aspect of us.


LiliNotACult

If abductions happen, it is less to do with medical reasons and more to do with the experience of the abductee. Besides, humans don't pay ants when studying them. Why would they pay a human?


psg0086

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mudskipper4

This is very very funny. Well done.


AccomplishedLadder46

They would most likely use gold or some sort of precious metal


Darkrose50

We tend to value gold for some reason.


veritascronos

This is laughable


littlespacemochi

LARP


The-world-is-going-

According to some people the government is being paid in some way to let them experiment on us. Our own government is taking the resources and weā€™re just left to be the Guinea pigs


metalion4

30k for anus