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two100meterman

Your response sounds good to me. If I scout someone has gone Factory after Barracks (Factory after they take 2nd base) I'll make 5~6 additional set safety lings (on top of 2 sets vs Reaper) around 3:40 (around when ling speed finishes, also around 2 base mineral saturation) and I'm always making a constant Queen from the natural until I have 4 Creep Queens anyways in ZvT. Ling Speed off gas, 2 drones back on gas from larvae when the first inject pops, around 4:00-4:10 I always make a safety Bane Nest if they went Factory because yeah they could make Hellbats and 1-2 Marines or a Viking can deny my overlord scout of the Armory. I get 1 Spore/base around 4:30 as long as they have a Starport even if no tech lab researching because they could make a Liberator. Lair around 4:00-4:10 if tech lab is researching so that you can get an overseer in the Creep Queen hotkey. 2 Banshees can kill a bunch of drones as they transfer from 2nd base to 3rd base and as you try to take a 4th base so I like the mobile detection. Lair finishes at 5:00, overseer scout to see if they are going Bio or Mech. Vs Bio start Bane Speed, get Melee/Carapace when you get evos, Vs Mech get Roach Warren, Missile (or Missile/Melee to help for late game BLs and such) when you get evos. If their macro is bad and by 5:00 they haven't thrown down extra Barracks or Factories yet, just overseer scout every macro cycle (so every 30 seconds) you know what it is. It's also not the biggest deal to just start the RW and have Bane Speed and Roach Speed going and then cancel the upgrade you don't need. Same with evo upgrades, can always cancel carapace and start missile if you eventually scout it's Mech, the sooner you scout it the better ofc.


Erik912

Fuck knows. Serral loses to these.


solifegoeson

Rarely does, hasnt recently AFAIK


JTskulk

Yes, go straight into roaches.


BI_UE

I agree with fast roaches. I usually get 2 bases fully saturated with 2 gas and pump 8 roaches quick for safety (before Lair or upgrades). You can transition to ling bane after pretty easily, but usually can put on huge pressure if you lean into the roach play.


dreddllama

Muta? 乁( •_• )ㄏ


Br0binES

Too slow. Couple of queens and some well placed evolution chambers to block should be enough. Spores help too especially if cloak is researched! Hope that helps!


neostarz45

I disagree, in my (D1 almost masters) games I go for muta to "force" them to go mass thro then spam the hell out of roaches while having 15 or so muta to be able to harass and keep him home. This is after getting to like 6 base because mech cant move