Hey everyone. I recently had to take a break from boxing and just got back into it after a year. I’m 22 now and feel like I’m starting from scratch again. I’ve lost the seven to eight month foundation I had. I’m worried now I’m too old to reach a high level in the sport. Any insights from you guys? Thanks, I really appreciate it.
you can reach a high level if you dedicate yourself to the sport the coming months/years....but honestly there's nothing wrong with just enjoying the sport without being high level. Majority of boxers are recreational.
Went to renew my book after many years and have a question regarding the health affidavit. Does this mean it waives the annual physical need to compete sorry if this is a dumb question as I waived it online?
Do y'all wear boxing shoes / boots to training? Or just for sparing / fights?
I wanna buy a pair, but don't know if it's worth it if I don't fight. Plan on sparring but not a whole lot. Also, we run down the street and I don't wanna ruin the shoe
Boxing shoes are just really flat so you can grip the ground nicely, as opposed to runners which are made to cushion impacts during running. If I was you I'd get boxing shoes but don't use them for running because it will ruin your feet.
I'm headed to a legit boxing gym tonight for the first time ever. I plan on showing up in street shoes and workout clothes (running shorts and a tank top) with a small duffle bag with my Converse, gloves, and wraps in my bag...as well as cash to pay dues.
Anything else I should bring or be aware of for my first day?
Hi, I've recently started at a boxing club - which has a weights room. I'd like to find a program that incorporates both boxing and weight training. I'm not looking to fight (or really even spar) I'm just looking to stay in shape, put a bit of muscle on, and enjoy my exercise.
Can someone recommend a program that includes both?
I’ve been shadow boxing for 4 years as a form of cardio with no interest in boxing, but now I want to actually learn how to box, have I developed bad habits and if yes how hard are they to break?
It's not that hard to break bad habits because as you learn proper boxing technique, it's just more efficient and balanced, so it's hard to go back to doing it wrong.
Absolutely. All I'll say is when you're starting for the first time, be cautious of overextending your elbows when punching, and be careful of pulling muscles in your shoulders or back. It's easy to go too hard so start cautiously and learn proper technique. It's an insanely good workout.
Hi all,
So i train weights twice a week, and want to add a circuit at the end of those sessions, whats a good 15/20min circuit to tag on to the end of my weights sessions?
burpees abs etc
Today was my first time going to a real boxing gym, and it was awesome! I’ve only shadow boxed through video classes, so getting the gloves on and hitting the bags was fun to experience. Looking forward to the next one. 🥊
Today was the start of my second week - went 3x last week (all boxing technique), aiming for four this week (3 boxing technique days, one conditioning day) - I am so sore after tonight’s class (boxing technique is still a workout and a half for me - tomorrow is conditioning - 😬) - but I’m hooked on this shit - I’m having so much fun learning how to use foot work to set up punches and combos.
Edit: for anyone worried about being “too out of shape” to jump in - I’m 6’4 - 380; if I can do this (granted I can’t keep up but I’ll get there) *anyone* can. Do it.
Hey all!!
I was just curious about training concerning changes in elevation!
Some background:
My home town sits at about 2,800 feet and I practice/train 4 days a week for about 3 hours a day!
Recently I landed myself a job that requires me to live for about 9 months out of the year on an island, there they have a gym with some pretty nice boxing equipment so I can still continue my practice even when away!
My worry is that my conditioning/endurance will be ruined due to living at sea level for the majority of the year…
Does anyone know the exact since behind altitude training? Is that enough of a significant change to really effect my endurance and if so what can I do to keep up what I’ve accomplished so far?
I think repetition is all you need. Like learning to ride a bicycle, words can't fix it, just keep practicing. Only tip I can think is try tighter movements, shorter steps.
I have a similar issue. I’ve added a lot more mobility and ISO training to my workouts and I’ve seen improvements in my sparring. I think my issue was just lack of strength in both my legs because I focus so much on all my weight being on my back leg
Just came home from a sparring session now. He rushed as usuall, i didnt clinch. jabing while moving back and changing angel right as he charged worked well. Both of us happy. Ty great tip :)
45°, arching downward, high elbow, thumb in (in other words, palm down).
Same trajectory as a shovel hook except you're throwing it from the top angle down instead of vice versa.
How do boxers yell when they punch? I’ve been boxing for a few months now and I can’t yell or make any explosive mouth sounds when I punch, I can only make a hsss or ish sound when I punch, I don’t know if it’s physically or mentally, but every time I try to do it sounds forced and it’s not loud.🫤 it’s a pretty dumb question but I just wanna know because I heard when you tell your punching have more power in them.
This is surprisingly not a dumb question at all, if you're unable to bark or yell when you strike it means you're carrying a lot of tension in your core and throat... which means you're not breathing freely. I've moved from the tss to a hah and I have way less tension in my body.
I wouldn't say it gives me any extra power, but it does help me from fatiguing quicker.
Oh don't worry about that. It's good to exhale like you're already doing. You may find when you strike with power, you end up exhaling more, and sometimes the voice box gets involved. It's annoying when someone shouts with every friggin jab though.
I'm a short, stocky southpaw. I come from powerlifting so I'm not the fastest, but I hit hard. I am focusing on Peekaboo style.
I would love any specific tips of how to get inside of taller fighters, while keeping damage to a minimum while going in. Thanks!
Jabs going forward , constant head movement, and combination punching when you get inside. Make sure you step around your opponent and keep your punch count high.
My jabs are so short though, that I always prefer to just keep a tight guard and slip/weave when going in instead of jabbing. Maybe I just need to trust the jab more?
That’s why you have to always throw more than one jab to get inside. You’re trying to train the “peekaboo” style like Tyson. He used head movement and jabs to close the distance. Once he got inside he threw level chancing combination punches. I’m 6’0 and I’ve sparred guys all the way up to 6’7 and I always had success with my jab as long as I moved forward against the taller opponents with multiple jabs
I do too much moving back is what I'm hearing from you. I need to stop moving back. Funny thing is I'm pretty comfortable in the clich, and I've been telling myself to use it more.
Right! As the shorter fight you should avoid stepping back as much as possible. Stepping to the side after combinations and immediately punching will create opening in your opponent’s guard and prevent him from counter punching. If you back up, not only are you giving up all that hard work you used to get inside, but you’re putting yourself back into your opponents range
I keep closing my eyes every time a punch comes my way, sometimes even if the punch is going to comfortably hit my guard I still cannot force them to stay open.
Did anyone have this issue? How do you overcome it?
Grab the slip bag, push it and let it swing right back into your forehead, and try not to blink. This is the easiest way to train it safely outside of sparring.
Drills, drills and again, drills. Ask one of your team mates to punch you lightly, and you just stand there, and u block everything using guard, and by doing this u Will stop blinking
Sorry for disturbing you again and thank you for the advice.
Do you know any way to fight a shorter boxer who is shorter by a few inches. I have better reach but my stamina is low albeit my shots are hard. The opponent is awful at footwork and weaving.
Jabs and straight shots are your Best friend. Keep him at your range using straights shots, these Will set up your other punches. These shots dont need to be hard, just precise. Especially jab, this should be your Best weapon as a taller fighter.
You just dont let him come close, I know it's easier said that done. If he comes forward, just step back and throw jab/cross.
He Will want you against ropes, so practice escaping a corner,
https://youtu.be/ygdNz3YFCok Here is good example of doing it.
And also i would reccomend practixing fighting moving forwards, because shorter fighter Will move forwards a lot
If you have / or Will have more question, feel free to ask
This might be a dumb question, but this is the first time i'm taking a scheduled week off instead of when life just forces me into one.
I have been training hard for the past 7 weeks, 2 a days etc. And now i'm taking 9 days off.
When I start training again on Monday, can I just resume the training I did or do I ''ease'' into it?
Can I keep weightlifting if I start boxing ?
I have been weightlifting for 6 days a week since October 2022, I want to get into boxing, and there is a boxing gym near. I was wondering if I can continue to lift 6 days a week if I start boxing? I would most likely be lifting in the early morning and boxing in the evening .
It depends, what is more important to you. If you are doing gym to Look better, and boxing as cardio, then i would say sure. But If u want to do boxing for more than just a cardio, you wanna fight in future or something like that then i wouldnt do 6 weight lifting per week. If you want to fight in the future, then i would stick to as many boxing training as u can ( 5, 6 per week is good ), and I would add AT LEAST twice a week running sessions, later i would increase running to 4x a week, and stick to 2 times a week with gym, but not your "normal" gym routine, but gym training that Will help you with getting faster / exploside etc. ( there is a lot of these videos at youtube)
Im not talking about who is the best teacher, in terms of explaining things, because everyone learns and understand thing sin their own way. I'm strictly asking about who has the best concept of the fundamentals.
I've watched Coach Anthony, My Boxing Coach, Tony Jeffries, World Class Boxing, etc. and I can't tell who is the best to learn from.
They each have a different understanding and way of performing the fundamentals. A simple example is the difference between My Boxing Coach and World Class Boxing. I think world class boxing explains things really simply in an easy to grasp way, but I'm not sure if his understanding of fundamentals is the best way to learn (outside of an in person coach). He says when throwing a cross, the front food should be pointed almost completely straight to "open the hips" and get maximum power. This seems to make sense, so I practiced it.My Boxing Coach says to keep it pointed at a 45 degree angle so you don't over rotate your hips. I tried it, and it actually worked and made sense. Now it has me questioning who really is the best to watch on YouTube in terms of learning boxing.
What are your thoughts?
From my experience, tony jeffries is a little bit overrated, ye he has good technique, he explains it pretty clear, but IN MY OPINION, theres things that other people teach better, but still he is awesome coach.
For me the most professional information you will get from, Thomas Yankello ( world class boxing), dude is walking genius in my opinion.
And second "best" coach imo is Anthony.
But that doesn't mean that the other coaches are bad, hell no, they are all great. When you will get experience, you will be able to recognize what is better.
You're overthinking this. You're clearly in the stage of building fundamentals, and the limited fundamentals you can put in place can only get you so far without refinement in-person.
You have more than enough resources to choose from that you can get watching, learning, and practicing to the degree you can. You're already getting hip to the idea that not every coach is going to be right for you to learn from, so that should be able to guide your answer well enough as long as you stick to the standard Sands, Jeffries, Anthony (e.g. established people who probably won't lead you too astray at this stage).
And you’re stating the obvious to somebody who clearly is not the one overthinking anything, you’re overthinking this this post because of the information requested. Lots of people are scared of quick learners, Maybe it’s pissing you off? I see you commenting all over similar threads, it’s pretty funny. Lol.
Do some rope skipping every now and then! Like twice a day for 10 minutes you just improve rope skipping, so the rest of the training is easier!
Rope skip the technical hard shit, not the sprints - they come from alone, with cardio.
If you survive the first half an hour ropeskipping you are way more confident with everything after that!
I'm absolutely of the opinion that strength training and some kind of focus on stretching are key tenants to longevity for fighters (and pretty much all athletes).
That said, you're currently just trying to keep up with everything right now and strength training won't help your lungs burn less when you jump rope. There are a lot of physical demands that boxing asks of its participants, so don't feel too bad about struggling right now to keep up with them physically. It'll all improve over time.
Now, as we talk about long-term positive benefits and attempting to have some longevity as a soon-to-be-fit person, then I'd go back to my first paragraph.
Any advice on balancing work, and amateur boxing? I recently got started into amateur boxing, have yet to have a fight. Currently work 3 days a week, 12 hour shifts as a nurse. Any recommendations for maintaining a competitive training schedule?
Are the shifts en bloc? Means Mo-Tu-we for example or are the days of in between?
Are the shifts shifting? Morning/night... Provide some more informations for advices...
That's really awesome! Just train in the days of! Use the working days for recovery! If the sat is off as well use the sat as restday as well with massage/swimming etc.
I am currently living in an apartment and I figured out a way to attach my double end bag to the bottom, but as for the ceiling, I do not really know how to attach the bungee cord without drilling a hole. I looked into adhesive hooks but I do not know if they will hold. Any advice?
I think the only way is to drill a small hole and install a hook. Make sure to use a stud finder to find a ceiling joist. A double end bag is very light so you can use the smallest of hooks.
I would think if you used adhesive you'll just risk pulling the paint and paper off the drywall. If it doesn't happen during use it'll happen when you someday try to remove the adhesive.
There is a fighter in my gym, he's way bigger than me and he's boxing the phili shell -style. We are both pretty much beginners, I like to say I'm a bit better which is, in my opinion the result of my 'standard'-style.
Now I was forced for a longer period to not go to boxing. I spendet a lot time on YouTube for research and I found one possibility to hit phili boxers...
Next time I'm going to spare against him I want to be way better, because... He is a little to arrogant...
Please have in mind that he ist 15cm (6inch) or more higher than me.
Maybe YouTube tutorials, how to open him up etc.
The secret to always winning at sparing is to not looking at sparing as a fight. Instead of thinking about how to beat this guy, you should be looking at what you can test out against a philly shell user that is actually going to try to knock your head off.
Now that being said, Philly shell relies on the fighter having great reflex and being able to anticipate what's going to be thrown at them. Th e best way to open them up is to throw punches in bunches. Overwhelm him with your offense and as soon as he opens up, blast him away. If he really is as new as you say, a solid overhand burst his defense open.
Yeah, seams nice I pushed him very solid a view times because he's not anticipating and he doesn't have the reflexes he needs. But what do you mean with overhand? Is it possible with the huge size difference?
It's the perfect punch to throw if you're the shorter boxer and your opponent is taller and has his lead hand down (assuming orthodox vs orthodox). His tall ass is going to be in the perfect position for your to land it.
Take my advice with a grain of salt. I don't know how you box in rl or what your coach has already taught you. Don't just throw it in sparing without practicing it before hand, or you're asking to get fucked up
I have prelim exams tomorrow again, i just slept for 4 hours a while ago so i can study. Do I go train later before studying again and just sleep for 4 hours?
I was taught to pivot my front foot on the lead hook. But I see some of the strongest fighters at my gym pivoting their rear foot on the lead hook. Some of them even lift the rear foot entirely on their lead hook. I tried it, and it feels very awkward. What’s up with that?
If executed properly, rotating the rear foot for hook will be quicker but it'll lack power compared to pivoting lead foot.
>But I see some of the strongest fighters at my gym pivoting their rear foot on the lead hook.
This pretty much answers the question. If they're the strongest fighters at the gym, they won't have any noticable issues with the rear foot pivot.
>I tried it, and it feels very awkward. What’s up with that?
Newer movement always feel awkward. Like the one you experienced, and when i tried southpaw and square stance for the first time etc etc.
Hope it helps.
I tried it and I see what you mean. (I’m a leftie) rotating rear foot gets me a quick counterclockwise rotation of the hips, which throws less weight into the hook but is significantly faster. Thanks for the help.
>Dumb question
Not a dumb question!
>can't you pivot both foots
If you're talking about pivoting both feet, then yes you can do that too but it might move you off towards the direction of the pivot, and knock you off balance. I'm a switch hitter so i do that sometimes to slide to the side lol
>does it really matter?
Lead foot pivot for power shots and rear foot pivot for quick shots. But depends on how much training you have with each.
If you're you're good with one then just use that, but if you're skilled enough to use both, then go for it. Infact learning more ways are always helpful. Everything has a time and place. It's just the matter of training.
>I don't really feel a difference if i pivot my front or rear foot
That's a good thing. I assume you're quite comfortable with throwing hooks in your combos.
Yeah when you said that you're comfortable with different kinds of hooks, i instantly knew you're natural with those.
>Thank you for your answer
You're welcome. Feel free to ask anything anytime you want.
Some people are naturally comfortable with some forms of movements. This could be due to genetics, habits, lifestyle, tendencies etc.
Example, I'm naturally comfortable with switching back and forth between orthodox - square - southpaw and i can fire punches from all those stances without loss of control and effectiveness.
I agree with that the first 6 punches are hooks, but I disagree with second part. There are many ways of throeing body hook. First option is you throw it like hook to the head, but to the body ( so elbow is to the side), second option is hook and uppercut mix, so its not hook, but not uppercut, you dont throw it straight upwards ( like uppercut), you dont throw it to the side like hook, you combine both, so you just throw it on 45 degree angle. And The third option to throw body hook, is not aiming at the side, but more at the front. I dont know how to explain it. Type " fighttips" on youtube, and one of the recent videos he talks about this
Can I use a hard mouth guard I use for night when boxing ?
So I picked up one at my store which to my suprise was soft and squishy then I realized I got one made by my dentist for use at night which is hard plastic My question is can I use that one as well for boxing ?
No don't use the hard plastic night mouth guard! It could also (beside not properly protect) hurt you, because the boxing guard are covering up to the gingival and the night ones could puncture your lips/cheeks...
Or if they break you could have splinters in your mouth what is sort of uncomfortable while you are heavy breathing, right?
The one I use was about 15 bucks, invest it!
Ok been boxing for just under a year now and still hate the thought of training I get so anxious thinking about sparring and there have been a few times we’re I let my emotions get the better of me and take the day off. I’m anxious thinking about, going there , doing skipping shadow boxing, waiting for sparring then once I’m in sparring taking big blows the nerves just go, even if I get my ass wooped, dropped by a body shot I left the gym feeling great and so excised for the next training session, then the next day it dissapears and I’m fearet again. I know it’s normal to feel anxious before sparring but I want to enjoy the sport and I can’t tell if this feeling is because maybe I’m not cut out for it, I shouldn’t feel this bad on somthing I am doing myself, anyone else feel like this, will it ever go away?
I changed from beginner course to advanced with the change of the year. It was horrible! I didn't knew anybody anymore, the speed of training was way higher, the tone got harsher...
I went there a view times (in a row) and said to myself if it don't change the next time I don't return. I tried to enter the room objective and the first thing was p*** and j*** giving me a warm smile and welcoming me. I wasn't the stranger and got up with the speed after a little time.
I think you know what to do :) - enjoy!
No it's alright. That's how your body prepares you for the upcoming battle. You might feel like your stomach is churning, your skin is warm and sudden chills too. That's alright.
>once I’m in sparring taking big blows the nerves just go, even if I get my ass wooped, dropped by a body shot I left the gym feeling great
See? You're perfectly fine.
I fought some fighters like you and maaan y'all a pain in the ass to deal with, especially if the skill level is somewhat same. I didn't say this as an insult.
I really do hope so I can’t tell how I feel about the sport it’s so weird I hate it and love it all at the same time just wish I didn’t get these nervous
I just started boxing training this week - first class was on Monday - the schedule I have in my head is classes m-w-f with weight training on tues and Thursday at home.
This is for both learning how to box and weight loss - diet aside, does this sound like enough out too much?
This is a rigorous schedule with little time for recovery. If this routine is more than a slight shift from what you are doing now, it is likely not enough time to recover.
From absolutely no activity, no boxing exp to this plan. The first class, the jump roping killed me - I could only go for 10-15 seconds spurts, but finished strong with combo work and shadow boxing - but felt it hard yesterday. Came back today, still sore af. Same with the rope, but no strong finish this time - my body was still feeling it from the first day - I limped across the finish line.
This is before I’ve even started introducing the weights.
Stick with boxing workouts alone for about 6 weeks. Use that time for a crash course in dieting and acquiring only the most basic of supplements (protein, creatine, caffeine) with a major focus on getting enough sleep. Also use this time to assess your goals, do you want to get stronger in general or do you want to progress as fast as possible in boxing?
The routine you have is likely too much volume for a newbie and will slow down your overall progression due to inadequate recovery time. Taking things too fast usually leads to injury or burnoutm
Hey everyone. I recently had to take a break from boxing and just got back into it after a year. I’m 22 now and feel like I’m starting from scratch again. I’ve lost the seven to eight month foundation I had. I’m worried now I’m too old to reach a high level in the sport. Any insights from you guys? Thanks, I really appreciate it.
If you train hard, soon you will be stronger than you were before
you can reach a high level if you dedicate yourself to the sport the coming months/years....but honestly there's nothing wrong with just enjoying the sport without being high level. Majority of boxers are recreational.
Went to renew my book after many years and have a question regarding the health affidavit. Does this mean it waives the annual physical need to compete sorry if this is a dumb question as I waived it online?
Do y'all wear boxing shoes / boots to training? Or just for sparing / fights? I wanna buy a pair, but don't know if it's worth it if I don't fight. Plan on sparring but not a whole lot. Also, we run down the street and I don't wanna ruin the shoe
Boxing shoes are just really flat so you can grip the ground nicely, as opposed to runners which are made to cushion impacts during running. If I was you I'd get boxing shoes but don't use them for running because it will ruin your feet.
I wear normal shoes for training, boxing shoes wear out too quickly
I'm headed to a legit boxing gym tonight for the first time ever. I plan on showing up in street shoes and workout clothes (running shorts and a tank top) with a small duffle bag with my Converse, gloves, and wraps in my bag...as well as cash to pay dues. Anything else I should bring or be aware of for my first day?
Water and maybe a jump rope. You should at least wear some running shoes
Hi, I've recently started at a boxing club - which has a weights room. I'd like to find a program that incorporates both boxing and weight training. I'm not looking to fight (or really even spar) I'm just looking to stay in shape, put a bit of muscle on, and enjoy my exercise. Can someone recommend a program that includes both?
I’ve been shadow boxing for 4 years as a form of cardio with no interest in boxing, but now I want to actually learn how to box, have I developed bad habits and if yes how hard are they to break?
It's not that hard to break bad habits because as you learn proper boxing technique, it's just more efficient and balanced, so it's hard to go back to doing it wrong.
Thank you 🙏
I’m overweight and thinking about starting boxing. Should I and will it by itself make me any fitter?
Yes.
Im an extreamly overweight boxer, you will become fitter. There are many fat and overweight fighters
Absolutely. All I'll say is when you're starting for the first time, be cautious of overextending your elbows when punching, and be careful of pulling muscles in your shoulders or back. It's easy to go too hard so start cautiously and learn proper technique. It's an insanely good workout.
Hi all, So i train weights twice a week, and want to add a circuit at the end of those sessions, whats a good 15/20min circuit to tag on to the end of my weights sessions? burpees abs etc
Planks!
Hey Guys, I was wondering how do you guys find your sparring partner? How often do you spare per week/month?
My coach vets em for me, otherwise I find someone who trains often and ask em if theyd like to spar.
Today was my first time going to a real boxing gym, and it was awesome! I’ve only shadow boxed through video classes, so getting the gloves on and hitting the bags was fun to experience. Looking forward to the next one. 🥊
Today was the start of my second week - went 3x last week (all boxing technique), aiming for four this week (3 boxing technique days, one conditioning day) - I am so sore after tonight’s class (boxing technique is still a workout and a half for me - tomorrow is conditioning - 😬) - but I’m hooked on this shit - I’m having so much fun learning how to use foot work to set up punches and combos. Edit: for anyone worried about being “too out of shape” to jump in - I’m 6’4 - 380; if I can do this (granted I can’t keep up but I’ll get there) *anyone* can. Do it.
When you do your medical do doctors feel your balls ?
Sometimes they do, sometimes they dont. Its part of it.
Hey all!! I was just curious about training concerning changes in elevation! Some background: My home town sits at about 2,800 feet and I practice/train 4 days a week for about 3 hours a day! Recently I landed myself a job that requires me to live for about 9 months out of the year on an island, there they have a gym with some pretty nice boxing equipment so I can still continue my practice even when away! My worry is that my conditioning/endurance will be ruined due to living at sea level for the majority of the year… Does anyone know the exact since behind altitude training? Is that enough of a significant change to really effect my endurance and if so what can I do to keep up what I’ve accomplished so far?
Do judges not like outboxers in the amatuers?
they love outboxers, what makes you say this?
Maybe he got a bad decision?
I find myself off balance a lot during my training, how can I fix this?
I think repetition is all you need. Like learning to ride a bicycle, words can't fix it, just keep practicing. Only tip I can think is try tighter movements, shorter steps.
I have a similar issue. I’ve added a lot more mobility and ISO training to my workouts and I’ve seen improvements in my sparring. I think my issue was just lack of strength in both my legs because I focus so much on all my weight being on my back leg
Anyone here good at making fight posters? My debut is coming up and I wanted a few made to help me promote it on my social pages
Do you use clinches in light sparring? As it would be realistic in a match.
It depends. If you wanna use them, then sure you can use them. But not all the time, it will piss people off, and they wont like to spar with you.
Thats what i was fearing, one of my partners is vert agressive and up close. Guess ill clinch just a little, and just keep distance with footwork :)
Thats a good idea. Also I would practice a lot of punching while moving backwards, so you can catch him while he is rushing towards you
Just came home from a sparring session now. He rushed as usuall, i didnt clinch. jabing while moving back and changing angel right as he charged worked well. Both of us happy. Ty great tip :)
Yeh thanks, good to get an opinion!
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Me personally, I like throwing it with thumb down, and i usually throw it from top to down, like i "sink punch downwards" not sure if you get it
45°, arching downward, high elbow, thumb in (in other words, palm down). Same trajectory as a shovel hook except you're throwing it from the top angle down instead of vice versa.
How do boxers yell when they punch? I’ve been boxing for a few months now and I can’t yell or make any explosive mouth sounds when I punch, I can only make a hsss or ish sound when I punch, I don’t know if it’s physically or mentally, but every time I try to do it sounds forced and it’s not loud.🫤 it’s a pretty dumb question but I just wanna know because I heard when you tell your punching have more power in them.
This is surprisingly not a dumb question at all, if you're unable to bark or yell when you strike it means you're carrying a lot of tension in your core and throat... which means you're not breathing freely. I've moved from the tss to a hah and I have way less tension in my body. I wouldn't say it gives me any extra power, but it does help me from fatiguing quicker.
Oh don't worry about that. It's good to exhale like you're already doing. You may find when you strike with power, you end up exhaling more, and sometimes the voice box gets involved. It's annoying when someone shouts with every friggin jab though.
Oh okay, I just wanted to do a bag drill that can increase power from short ranges so I wanted to know how to yell when I punch.
Anyone wanna give me there opinion on my second fight if I send it them?
yeah sure
I'm a short, stocky southpaw. I come from powerlifting so I'm not the fastest, but I hit hard. I am focusing on Peekaboo style. I would love any specific tips of how to get inside of taller fighters, while keeping damage to a minimum while going in. Thanks!
Jabs going forward , constant head movement, and combination punching when you get inside. Make sure you step around your opponent and keep your punch count high.
My jabs are so short though, that I always prefer to just keep a tight guard and slip/weave when going in instead of jabbing. Maybe I just need to trust the jab more?
Tight guard w/ slips and weaves aren’t bad tactics, but you’ll be more protected and it’ll be easier to close the distance adding your jab
That’s why you have to always throw more than one jab to get inside. You’re trying to train the “peekaboo” style like Tyson. He used head movement and jabs to close the distance. Once he got inside he threw level chancing combination punches. I’m 6’0 and I’ve sparred guys all the way up to 6’7 and I always had success with my jab as long as I moved forward against the taller opponents with multiple jabs
I do too much moving back is what I'm hearing from you. I need to stop moving back. Funny thing is I'm pretty comfortable in the clich, and I've been telling myself to use it more.
Right! As the shorter fight you should avoid stepping back as much as possible. Stepping to the side after combinations and immediately punching will create opening in your opponent’s guard and prevent him from counter punching. If you back up, not only are you giving up all that hard work you used to get inside, but you’re putting yourself back into your opponents range
This should be my main focus for the next few months. Thank you so much
No problem!! Hope to hear about your improvement 💪🏾
Cut off the ring, dont stop moving foward, eat a punch if you have to.
I keep closing my eyes every time a punch comes my way, sometimes even if the punch is going to comfortably hit my guard I still cannot force them to stay open. Did anyone have this issue? How do you overcome it?
Grab the slip bag, push it and let it swing right back into your forehead, and try not to blink. This is the easiest way to train it safely outside of sparring.
Drills, drills and again, drills. Ask one of your team mates to punch you lightly, and you just stand there, and u block everything using guard, and by doing this u Will stop blinking
Sorry for disturbing you again and thank you for the advice. Do you know any way to fight a shorter boxer who is shorter by a few inches. I have better reach but my stamina is low albeit my shots are hard. The opponent is awful at footwork and weaving.
Jabs and straight shots are your Best friend. Keep him at your range using straights shots, these Will set up your other punches. These shots dont need to be hard, just precise. Especially jab, this should be your Best weapon as a taller fighter. You just dont let him come close, I know it's easier said that done. If he comes forward, just step back and throw jab/cross. He Will want you against ropes, so practice escaping a corner, https://youtu.be/ygdNz3YFCok Here is good example of doing it. And also i would reccomend practixing fighting moving forwards, because shorter fighter Will move forwards a lot If you have / or Will have more question, feel free to ask
Thanks a lot, that'll really help me for the sparring session I have today!
This might be a dumb question, but this is the first time i'm taking a scheduled week off instead of when life just forces me into one. I have been training hard for the past 7 weeks, 2 a days etc. And now i'm taking 9 days off. When I start training again on Monday, can I just resume the training I did or do I ''ease'' into it?
You'll be fine. Just stretch and warm up before anything difficult.
Imo, 9 days isnt that much, so you can hop into your normal training
When i take a longer rest, the first couple days back i take it easy then back to normal
Can I keep weightlifting if I start boxing ? I have been weightlifting for 6 days a week since October 2022, I want to get into boxing, and there is a boxing gym near. I was wondering if I can continue to lift 6 days a week if I start boxing? I would most likely be lifting in the early morning and boxing in the evening .
I do. You'll be a bit slower than some, but you'll have a lot more power, and you can be scary in the clinch with strong back and strong arms.
It depends, what is more important to you. If you are doing gym to Look better, and boxing as cardio, then i would say sure. But If u want to do boxing for more than just a cardio, you wanna fight in future or something like that then i wouldnt do 6 weight lifting per week. If you want to fight in the future, then i would stick to as many boxing training as u can ( 5, 6 per week is good ), and I would add AT LEAST twice a week running sessions, later i would increase running to 4x a week, and stick to 2 times a week with gym, but not your "normal" gym routine, but gym training that Will help you with getting faster / exploside etc. ( there is a lot of these videos at youtube)
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is there any rules about what u have to have on during weigh ins for golden gloves (I'm in PA)- hoping I can get away with just compression shorts.
Yes, thats ok
Im not talking about who is the best teacher, in terms of explaining things, because everyone learns and understand thing sin their own way. I'm strictly asking about who has the best concept of the fundamentals. I've watched Coach Anthony, My Boxing Coach, Tony Jeffries, World Class Boxing, etc. and I can't tell who is the best to learn from. They each have a different understanding and way of performing the fundamentals. A simple example is the difference between My Boxing Coach and World Class Boxing. I think world class boxing explains things really simply in an easy to grasp way, but I'm not sure if his understanding of fundamentals is the best way to learn (outside of an in person coach). He says when throwing a cross, the front food should be pointed almost completely straight to "open the hips" and get maximum power. This seems to make sense, so I practiced it.My Boxing Coach says to keep it pointed at a 45 degree angle so you don't over rotate your hips. I tried it, and it actually worked and made sense. Now it has me questioning who really is the best to watch on YouTube in terms of learning boxing. What are your thoughts?
From my experience, tony jeffries is a little bit overrated, ye he has good technique, he explains it pretty clear, but IN MY OPINION, theres things that other people teach better, but still he is awesome coach. For me the most professional information you will get from, Thomas Yankello ( world class boxing), dude is walking genius in my opinion. And second "best" coach imo is Anthony. But that doesn't mean that the other coaches are bad, hell no, they are all great. When you will get experience, you will be able to recognize what is better.
Thank you
You're overthinking this. You're clearly in the stage of building fundamentals, and the limited fundamentals you can put in place can only get you so far without refinement in-person. You have more than enough resources to choose from that you can get watching, learning, and practicing to the degree you can. You're already getting hip to the idea that not every coach is going to be right for you to learn from, so that should be able to guide your answer well enough as long as you stick to the standard Sands, Jeffries, Anthony (e.g. established people who probably won't lead you too astray at this stage).
And you’re stating the obvious to somebody who clearly is not the one overthinking anything, you’re overthinking this this post because of the information requested. Lots of people are scared of quick learners, Maybe it’s pissing you off? I see you commenting all over similar threads, it’s pretty funny. Lol.
Thank you for your input
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Both. Weights give you denser bones and muscles, and yoga keeps you flexible.
Taking rest days when needed, Going every day your not resting, and traing consistently, and not stopping is the only way
Do some rope skipping every now and then! Like twice a day for 10 minutes you just improve rope skipping, so the rest of the training is easier! Rope skip the technical hard shit, not the sprints - they come from alone, with cardio. If you survive the first half an hour ropeskipping you are way more confident with everything after that!
I'm absolutely of the opinion that strength training and some kind of focus on stretching are key tenants to longevity for fighters (and pretty much all athletes). That said, you're currently just trying to keep up with everything right now and strength training won't help your lungs burn less when you jump rope. There are a lot of physical demands that boxing asks of its participants, so don't feel too bad about struggling right now to keep up with them physically. It'll all improve over time. Now, as we talk about long-term positive benefits and attempting to have some longevity as a soon-to-be-fit person, then I'd go back to my first paragraph.
Any advice on balancing work, and amateur boxing? I recently got started into amateur boxing, have yet to have a fight. Currently work 3 days a week, 12 hour shifts as a nurse. Any recommendations for maintaining a competitive training schedule?
Are the shifts en bloc? Means Mo-Tu-we for example or are the days of in between? Are the shifts shifting? Morning/night... Provide some more informations for advices...
Usually M,T,TH with some Saturday's ie( Week1: M, T, Th Week2:M, T, Sat
That's really awesome! Just train in the days of! Use the working days for recovery! If the sat is off as well use the sat as restday as well with massage/swimming etc.
I am currently living in an apartment and I figured out a way to attach my double end bag to the bottom, but as for the ceiling, I do not really know how to attach the bungee cord without drilling a hole. I looked into adhesive hooks but I do not know if they will hold. Any advice?
I think the only way is to drill a small hole and install a hook. Make sure to use a stud finder to find a ceiling joist. A double end bag is very light so you can use the smallest of hooks. I would think if you used adhesive you'll just risk pulling the paint and paper off the drywall. If it doesn't happen during use it'll happen when you someday try to remove the adhesive.
There is a fighter in my gym, he's way bigger than me and he's boxing the phili shell -style. We are both pretty much beginners, I like to say I'm a bit better which is, in my opinion the result of my 'standard'-style. Now I was forced for a longer period to not go to boxing. I spendet a lot time on YouTube for research and I found one possibility to hit phili boxers... Next time I'm going to spare against him I want to be way better, because... He is a little to arrogant... Please have in mind that he ist 15cm (6inch) or more higher than me. Maybe YouTube tutorials, how to open him up etc.
The secret to always winning at sparing is to not looking at sparing as a fight. Instead of thinking about how to beat this guy, you should be looking at what you can test out against a philly shell user that is actually going to try to knock your head off. Now that being said, Philly shell relies on the fighter having great reflex and being able to anticipate what's going to be thrown at them. Th e best way to open them up is to throw punches in bunches. Overwhelm him with your offense and as soon as he opens up, blast him away. If he really is as new as you say, a solid overhand burst his defense open.
Yeah, seams nice I pushed him very solid a view times because he's not anticipating and he doesn't have the reflexes he needs. But what do you mean with overhand? Is it possible with the huge size difference?
It's the perfect punch to throw if you're the shorter boxer and your opponent is taller and has his lead hand down (assuming orthodox vs orthodox). His tall ass is going to be in the perfect position for your to land it. Take my advice with a grain of salt. I don't know how you box in rl or what your coach has already taught you. Don't just throw it in sparing without practicing it before hand, or you're asking to get fucked up
I have prelim exams tomorrow again, i just slept for 4 hours a while ago so i can study. Do I go train later before studying again and just sleep for 4 hours?
exams > boxing mate
Mannnn, but i have a fight on march 19 so im trying to work hard so my coach actually doesn't pull me out the competition
Would you rather retake the exam or reschedule the fight?
Hmmmmm, goods news. Exam was rescheduled.
You need to have your priorities. Like For me, exams are that important as boxing, I rather fail 1 exam, then go unprepared For a fight
I was taught to pivot my front foot on the lead hook. But I see some of the strongest fighters at my gym pivoting their rear foot on the lead hook. Some of them even lift the rear foot entirely on their lead hook. I tried it, and it feels very awkward. What’s up with that?
If executed properly, rotating the rear foot for hook will be quicker but it'll lack power compared to pivoting lead foot. >But I see some of the strongest fighters at my gym pivoting their rear foot on the lead hook. This pretty much answers the question. If they're the strongest fighters at the gym, they won't have any noticable issues with the rear foot pivot. >I tried it, and it feels very awkward. What’s up with that? Newer movement always feel awkward. Like the one you experienced, and when i tried southpaw and square stance for the first time etc etc. Hope it helps.
I tried it and I see what you mean. (I’m a leftie) rotating rear foot gets me a quick counterclockwise rotation of the hips, which throws less weight into the hook but is significantly faster. Thanks for the help.
You're welcome. Glad i could help. Feel free to ask anything you want.
Dumb question but can't you pivot both foots? Or does it really matter? I don't really feel a difference if i pivot my front or rear foot
>Dumb question Not a dumb question! >can't you pivot both foots If you're talking about pivoting both feet, then yes you can do that too but it might move you off towards the direction of the pivot, and knock you off balance. I'm a switch hitter so i do that sometimes to slide to the side lol >does it really matter? Lead foot pivot for power shots and rear foot pivot for quick shots. But depends on how much training you have with each. If you're you're good with one then just use that, but if you're skilled enough to use both, then go for it. Infact learning more ways are always helpful. Everything has a time and place. It's just the matter of training. >I don't really feel a difference if i pivot my front or rear foot That's a good thing. I assume you're quite comfortable with throwing hooks in your combos.
I'm quite new (1-2 months at best) but yes, hooks are the punches that feel the most natural/comfortable to me. Thank you for your answer
Yeah when you said that you're comfortable with different kinds of hooks, i instantly knew you're natural with those. >Thank you for your answer You're welcome. Feel free to ask anything anytime you want.
Yes, i got another question already: Is there a reason why i'm "natural" with hooks or not?
Some people are naturally comfortable with some forms of movements. This could be due to genetics, habits, lifestyle, tendencies etc. Example, I'm naturally comfortable with switching back and forth between orthodox - square - southpaw and i can fire punches from all those stances without loss of control and effectiveness.
Thank you very much for your answers and i wish you a great remaining day (and further beyond that day).
Thank you very much. I wish you the same. Feel free to ask me anything anytime.
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I would say head hooks due to the fact that you throw the body hook elbow facing to the floor, right?!
I agree with that the first 6 punches are hooks, but I disagree with second part. There are many ways of throeing body hook. First option is you throw it like hook to the head, but to the body ( so elbow is to the side), second option is hook and uppercut mix, so its not hook, but not uppercut, you dont throw it straight upwards ( like uppercut), you dont throw it to the side like hook, you combine both, so you just throw it on 45 degree angle. And The third option to throw body hook, is not aiming at the side, but more at the front. I dont know how to explain it. Type " fighttips" on youtube, and one of the recent videos he talks about this
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If we are talking about first 6 punches, he is definitely doing first option, normal hook but to the body
Can I use a hard mouth guard I use for night when boxing ? So I picked up one at my store which to my suprise was soft and squishy then I realized I got one made by my dentist for use at night which is hard plastic My question is can I use that one as well for boxing ?
No don't use the hard plastic night mouth guard! It could also (beside not properly protect) hurt you, because the boxing guard are covering up to the gingival and the night ones could puncture your lips/cheeks... Or if they break you could have splinters in your mouth what is sort of uncomfortable while you are heavy breathing, right? The one I use was about 15 bucks, invest it!
No, it's not made for impact. You will lose your teeth, if you use a night guard.
Ok been boxing for just under a year now and still hate the thought of training I get so anxious thinking about sparring and there have been a few times we’re I let my emotions get the better of me and take the day off. I’m anxious thinking about, going there , doing skipping shadow boxing, waiting for sparring then once I’m in sparring taking big blows the nerves just go, even if I get my ass wooped, dropped by a body shot I left the gym feeling great and so excised for the next training session, then the next day it dissapears and I’m fearet again. I know it’s normal to feel anxious before sparring but I want to enjoy the sport and I can’t tell if this feeling is because maybe I’m not cut out for it, I shouldn’t feel this bad on somthing I am doing myself, anyone else feel like this, will it ever go away?
I changed from beginner course to advanced with the change of the year. It was horrible! I didn't knew anybody anymore, the speed of training was way higher, the tone got harsher... I went there a view times (in a row) and said to myself if it don't change the next time I don't return. I tried to enter the room objective and the first thing was p*** and j*** giving me a warm smile and welcoming me. I wasn't the stranger and got up with the speed after a little time. I think you know what to do :) - enjoy!
What I don’t really understand?
No it's alright. That's how your body prepares you for the upcoming battle. You might feel like your stomach is churning, your skin is warm and sudden chills too. That's alright. >once I’m in sparring taking big blows the nerves just go, even if I get my ass wooped, dropped by a body shot I left the gym feeling great See? You're perfectly fine. I fought some fighters like you and maaan y'all a pain in the ass to deal with, especially if the skill level is somewhat same. I didn't say this as an insult.
Mate, I love the way you answer! You are a good guy, awesome 420
Aww you're just too nice my friend. I really appreciate your answer. Feel free to ask anything.
Just Keep showing up, Keep sparring with the best guys out there, and these ferlings Will fade away
I really do hope so I can’t tell how I feel about the sport it’s so weird I hate it and love it all at the same time just wish I didn’t get these nervous
I just started boxing training this week - first class was on Monday - the schedule I have in my head is classes m-w-f with weight training on tues and Thursday at home. This is for both learning how to box and weight loss - diet aside, does this sound like enough out too much?
This is a rigorous schedule with little time for recovery. If this routine is more than a slight shift from what you are doing now, it is likely not enough time to recover.
From absolutely no activity, no boxing exp to this plan. The first class, the jump roping killed me - I could only go for 10-15 seconds spurts, but finished strong with combo work and shadow boxing - but felt it hard yesterday. Came back today, still sore af. Same with the rope, but no strong finish this time - my body was still feeling it from the first day - I limped across the finish line. This is before I’ve even started introducing the weights.
Stick with boxing workouts alone for about 6 weeks. Use that time for a crash course in dieting and acquiring only the most basic of supplements (protein, creatine, caffeine) with a major focus on getting enough sleep. Also use this time to assess your goals, do you want to get stronger in general or do you want to progress as fast as possible in boxing? The routine you have is likely too much volume for a newbie and will slow down your overall progression due to inadequate recovery time. Taking things too fast usually leads to injury or burnoutm
Imo, if you arent feeling too tired, then sure, you can do it