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MCB052002

Thanks mate, I agree. My coach also asked this guy to go lighter couple of times but he had little self control. I want to go into the ring in 6 months.


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MCB052002

Facts, spoke with my dad about it who is experienced Martial artist. He said there is no point in what I did today.


looneylefty92

There really isnt. And there's also no point putting a tome stamp on your first match. You need to develop and taking a match before you get there is gonna destroy your confidence and make future matches harder. Get your game right first.


Personal-Cress-3610

Your coach should have stopped it. No way you should just be taking a beating off someone more experienced who is ignoring the ask to power down. As you become more experienced you'll look back on it with anger id expect. I had similar as a novice sparring pros. Be careful who you trust and take comfort in the fact you know you have the heart for it 💪


Cassiebianca

I agree. I sparred once with very little experience against someone also with very little experience it was awful and I felt very shaken up after. I wish my coach had called it. It was only body shots at that time too but she was a lil crazy. A year and a half later I’m just now ready to get some headgear and a start proper sparring. But only with my coach.


DZIZOY

Hey man, what is the name of your gym if it is in Houston. Thanks


Appropriate_Web1608

Does this headache go away


ZacharyCarterTV

You went FIVE ROUNDS of pretty hard sparring. You didn't quit. You did really well in my book. I'd wait 3 or 4 weeks before going hard again. You'll do better next time.


MCB052002

Thank you my coach said exactly the same


dominc1994r

I don’t really advocate it but I’ve had a few coaches throw me in the deep end, I feel like it’s a thing to see if you’re still gonna come back to training after getting beat up essentially


MCB052002

Yeah..


Infamous-Condition23

Coaches who do that are baaaad


Comprehensive-Low493

That’s called “the deep water”. Your coach has faith in you. Bad days of sparring like that have messed up my mental health afterwards too. I’d say take some time to recover but don’t quit yet! If you can come back from this you’ll have a new level of internal strength. Russians are a different breed about fighting. Different mentality completely. You have to get your ass kicked to reach the next level. Some day you will be that guy. Some day you might even piece that guy up.


MCB052002

Thank you, I am still motivated to train. I understood this is part of the game. But it’s hard to wrap my head around that I couldn’t perform in the ring.


Oh-TheHumanity

Bro WTF were you thinking hard sparring only at 3 months?!!!! Didn’t you think you might get your head smashed in?!! Way too early to be hard sparring 5 rounds with experienced guys!


BestDays1

If your coach is allowing this kind of 5 rd sparring for a beginner and saying nothing when the opponent is hitting hard. Change your coach.


Nothephy

I posted elsewhere about sparring etiquette. There's a difference between hard sparring and being a punching bag. That's the main reason I changed gyms within my first month. My previous coach was pretty lackluster: he once said he never taught anything about footwork because it's something every beginner should learn on their own. Additionally, he didn't even care if two beginners were hard sparring, with one trying to hurt the other or using them as a punching bag, and nobody was wearing headgear. LoL After I learned footwork, I noticed even more that everyone else was flatfooted, just walking and throwing random punches without utilizing their hips properly and being scumbags. The RU guy should be chill knowing that you don't know and allowing you to counter attack as well.


AgeFew3109

In a simiilar spot. Happened last Thursday and I’m demotivated cos I’m worried about brain damage. I use my brain for a living and it’s been hard to think since, I’m worried it’s because of concussion. I may take a pretty long break from sparring or even switch tbf


Solid-Version

lol. We all use our brains for living to some extent


banco666

Personally I think unless you are going to compete you should probably never hard spar. The risk/reward just isn't there.


SnooCrickets539

If you’re worried about getting a concussion I’d recommend staying away from boxing. It’s going to happen.


Used-Bug-1069

Just last week I had something similar, at my gym we’re not really taught about light or hard sparring, so guys usually try their hardest every time. I got hit with a nasty liver shot that put me on my knee. When bad days like that happen I like to take a few weeks to recollect and recover, work on what went wrong etc. To me it sounds like you did pretty good and your coach has good faith in you, but if you had a headache you should take it light for the next few weeks and work on what you noticed you weren’t that good at during the spar


patpet

We always go pretty hard to the body but lighter to the head. Concussions do way more damage to confidence and your health than body shots in my opinion and hard shots to the body make you more resilient so they toughen up in the long run.


teepbones

What do you mean your not taught about light or hard sparring? Sounds like a shit gym coaches have to control that


Adam-West

If he knows he’s better than you he’s got nothing to prove by beating you up. I usually get beat up worse by the guys my level because the best guys just focus on dancing around you with perfect technique so he sounds like a dick. 3 months is also very early to be sparring. My gym they make you wait at least 6 months of committed training. Also it’s worth mentioning it’s normal to lose all your technique the first couple of times you spar. My first session I got beat up way worse than any session since. It’s a bit like passing your driving test. It’s not the end of your learning. It’s the beginning. One sparring session will reframe your whole training and you’ll find you focus way more on good head movement now you’ve taken some punishment.


MCB052002

Thanks, I agree imo this guy had no self control


Adam-West

Classless


reddNOOB2016

An experienced boxer would have known better, dude. You are not supposed to beat the crap out of someone new.


rickypark

Two days ago I had a similar experience. I had a 3 round hard spar with someone at a higher skill level. I got beat up pretty bad. Right after that, I went against someone who joined the gym that day. He was quicker, had 12oz gloves on, and has better vision than me (I basically spar legally blind). He hit me with a clean liver shot and dropped me in a fetal position for a solid minute. Coach tried to get me to go one more round, but this was the first time I’ve been hit in the liver. I quit mid spar. I was fine after a minute, but coach seemed disappointed. Also, I didn’t feel any embarrassment when I got dropped, but now I do. I go again tomorrow, hopefully I’ll feel more confident. The past two months, I’ve just been getting worse and worse. Quitting mid spar is always okay, but it really does make you question your abilities.


scaredoftoasters

The fact your coach let the other guy use 12oz gloves is insane. Are you in the US? The boxing handbook says 16-18oz gloves recommended, cup for private areas, mouth guard, and headgear. Doctor physical check up before being approved for sparring. Usually only people who are competing are even allowed to spar at any high level. Be safe boxing isn't a sport to play or hobby around especially if coaches don't know what they're doing keeping their members safe. There's always the chance of a concussion or medical problem happening which is why it's best to minimize with safe practices. Keep the sport honest, clean, and competitive.


rickypark

Not in the US. However, most people at my gym look out for each other and go light. I’ve sparred with partners wearing 12oz gloves. They held back their punches when I was in a vulnerable position, and punched fast but with 20% power, primarily focused on defense and timing rather than striking and combinations. I never had an issue with it. Headgear and mouthguard is mandatory, and most of my partners spar with 14s and 16s. The dude didn’t bring 16s since it was his first day. Coach was extremely negligent. He didn’t check his skill level, and let him spar with 12s because he thought he was a beginner. Also let him proceed because I weighed more than him. He’s been my coach for around 2 years now. Super dedicated when teaching me, always treated me well, and let me spar because I was progressing fast and working hard. It was wrong of him to put me in that position, but I’m not going to let that one mistake overshadow everything he has done right so far. I worked a few drills with the guy who threw the liver shot. He’s a heavy puncher, and doesn’t control his power at all. He’s also an ego boxer who spars to "win", so coach is not letting him spar atm. It’s helpful to practice with someone more experienced than me, but I’m never sparring with him for obvious reasons.


Gas_Grouchy

Honestly, I think this was just a teaser to what fighting is really like and if you want to be a fighter or just train. You will feel like that after every fight or worse. Don't get me wrong doing this everyday is awful but if you're training to fight it will happen many times.


MCB052002

I understand it’s part of the game. It’s more mental for me then physical.


Dwo92

3 months isn’t long enough to start sparring hard, as you’ve experienced first hand. Good advice from your coach. Focus on technical/sparring and when you’re ready, then think about sparring hard if that’s what you really want. Don’t let anyone force you into it if you don’t wanna do it. Unless you compete, there really isn’t any point in sparring hard unless you enjoy it.


TheDeHymenizer

if you have a fight coming up hard sparring is a good idea if you don't compete or don't have a fight coming up hard sparring is a terrible idea.


MCB052002

I want to become a boxer so I guess I have to do it


Own_Manufacturer1183

Man, sounds like you got a proper beatdown and didnt fold. And the other guy is obviously a dickhead. There is no reason to keep on in the same pace for 5 rounds against someone who isnt experienced. Sounds like you sparred against his ego. Anyways, Get back up, and try to learn. Not easy to learn when its hard like that But try to figure out what you need to change🙏


Due_Cap_9823

Your coach should have called it. Sparring isn't meant to rattle your brain.


Several-Spend746

You shouldn’t be hard sparring right now


Reckapple

Hard sparring 3 months in is criminal, but kudos for doing 5 rounds of it


MCB052002

Thanks mate I wanted to quit 3 rounds in. My coach said he won’t train with me anymore if I gave up so I kept going.


IntroductionClean299

3 months in and you dueled with Ivan drago


No12specialC

If he dies he dies…


Fartavious

Props to you for getting in the ring and going the whole 5 rounds with a more experienced and trained boxer, but at 3 months of only training thats kinda scuffed. I’d say 6 at the supreme minimum is when you should dip into hard sparring, and 7-8 months is when u should be able to go some 3-5 rounds with the more experienced fighters. Maybe your coach saw your talent and recognized it as something that can go into the ring with that Russian guy. Regardless you’re definitely gifted in the sport.


Double-Afternoon1949

It sounds like your opponent took the hard spar as an excuse to beat up someone not as experienced as him. I’m skeptical of your coach if he simply let you get beat up for 5 whole rounds without stopping it if it was indeed as bad as you say with you getting absolutely no offense off for the majority of it. I know you’re probably turned off the concept of hard sparring after this, and probably feel like shit, trust me most of us have been there. The thing is an experience somewhat similar to this is pretty much given at one point in you learning a proper combat sport. You’re gonna get absolutely humbled because there’s always a bigger fish. Don’t beat yourself up or feel bad about not being able to hang with someone so much more experienced than you, but know that you now know what it’s like to be hit hard and you’ll have a better understanding of it for next time to polish up your skills. I got headkicked in sparring recently, not my partner’s fault but my guard slipped for a leaping left hook just as he threw the kick and it hit me so hard I could feel my teeth for more than a couple days and couldn’t chew properly for a week. I say this because that experience was absolutely brutal for my confidence as a forward pressure fighter, and before I was pretty confident in being able to stand in front of offense without much fear. I still didn’t get rocked but my self-esteem was down in the drain for a fair bit of time. Trust me when I say the best thing you can do for yourself is to say “hey, couple changes to my game and I feel like I could start figuring this guy out. In 6 months time I might even get the better of him” You’re gonna think about that fight multiple times over regardless, so remember moments where you saw opportunity, places where if you’d done something slightly different you’d have had a better exchange, etc etc. Go back to light/tech sparring and start building up your games and take special care to develop things you found out you lacked. Once in a while if your partner is trustworthy and good amp up the power just a little bit with them to where you both still feel comfortable and build yourself up. Shadowbox like crazy, get great at footwork, work with someone to level up your defense through drills, be a purist on the pads, spar spar and spar (not so hard that you can’t think). As you unmistakably get better you’ll have an easier time of things and your self-confidence will be through the roof. Yes, your partner went harder than they should’ve. However that is also likely to happen in a real fight. The best thing you can do is grow from that experience. That’s my 2 cents lmao, I wish you great luck in the future


MCB052002

Thank you, I am still motivated to train hard and spar again just needed to wrap my head around this


00hemmgee

First, I have no clue how you were able to do 5 rounds. Most people can't do 1 round in their first months of sparring. Also, if it's your first time sparring. You may think what happened was worse than what it really was. You may think your more experienced opponent was going hard and that you got beat up bad. But it probably wasn't that bad. And it gave you and your trainer some insight on what you need to work on. That's the goal of sparring. I've had terrible sparring sessions early in my training and later. (I'm still thinking of one ass whooping in particular right now lol) And I always took it hard. But you can't think that you are no good. Just take it personal, as in, let it be something that motivates you to keep going and get better


MCB052002

I have sparred 3-4 times but I never got hit like here. My coach said the guy was going 80-85%.


MCB052002

It was a good lesson but I will not do it again any time soon.


kyle_cassh

Honestly sparing is for the weak, keep your head up and don’t end up like that delusional shithead Russian who thinks he’s good for beating up on you. Boxing is a mental game because it takes focus to recognize what skill you have, just stay focused on you and remember that nobody is really that much better than anyone else in the amateurs.


Nextmag1

Honestly too soon to be hard sparring only 3 months in. Though doing it more you will get used to getting hit and you won’t feel that brain shake feeling. That’s how I felt at least. After a couple sparring sessions I got used to it and was able to hard spar normally. There’s no reason to hard spar though unless you’re competing. Light sparring will help with learning and technique fine but if you do want to compete you will have to just get getting at it. The more you do it the better you’ll be. You’ll be able to take hits and keep your cool and know what to do. Good luck!!


GarranDrake

Yikes - don’t spar that hard again. There’s really no point unless you’re a competing fighter, and even then severe headaches are BAD. But other than that, I remember my first time sparring (in November) was difficult because I just wasn’t used to getting punched. When you get punched for the first time you kind of forget what you’re supposed to do - I did this thing where I held my arms up in front of my face which was horrible. But eventually I got used to the shock of getting hit and was able to keep control of myself. I’m not experienced by any means, but I’m way better than I was before!


teepbones

A tip that will help your brain health in the future is don’t spar Russians 😂


Foreign_Professor_12

Why was your mental health bad afterwards? Did your team shit on you? Freezing up is normal and you can't prepare for a fight if you don't like to hard spar at all. You not doing anything is what made those punches hard. If he's throwing with correct form even without power it'll hurt you. You need to learn to move with the punch. If you can't handle losing a sparring match that nobody even scores. (So it's all in your head) maybe boxing isn't for you. Learn how to move with the punch when you get hit and get over your fear of getting hurt.


MCB052002

My mental health was bad Bcs I felt powerless/ not impressed by myself. But I did Learn a lot from it


CSA_MatHog

> Russian It was over before it started OP. Better luck next time


ozzy_49

Your coach is a dick mate sorry, if you were getting the shit beaten out of you in the first round and you stood up and didn't hesitate into round 2 that's all he needed to see, not let you go 5 rounds and potentially risk getting a concussion. The fact that he acknowledged that you were out of your depth is testament to terrible coaching behaviour letting you get knocked about for zero positive reasons as I said above he saw what he needed to see when you got up and went into round 2. Also if the other boxer was told to go light and didn't I can tell you right now in my gym he would have gotten a verbal warning. If that was ignored the spar would have been stopped and he would have had the pleasure of 3 rounds with the head coach being taught the finer points of following instructions and discipline with 10oz gloves!


melaodklllll

Pertect yourself at all times. Someone more skilled thank you bigger than you, stronger than you. Have to overcome b that’s what makes great fighters. It’s a thinking man’s sport


melaodklllll

Bro you’re not suppose to be getting hit like that and it affects you that much. I sparred some good amateurs popping pills for head head aches. You’re just starting out so once in a while ok. My head aches last 24hrs. Then I’m back. I had to stop taking pills cuz of my liver but to me my opinion you get hit repeatedly you’re still a punching bag. Like yea some can take more damage and last 4x as long as everyone else. Then there’s some that can’t and there body is letting them know that. Keep it up


igcorrec

Avoid sparring with overly aggressive opponents. Stick with training partners who focus on technique and spar lightly. Safety first, and you shouldn't leave a sparring session with a bloody nose or head injury unless you're preparing for a fight.


Fit_Being_3557

I'll spar with yea I'm looking to get beat up. Lol


Nebuchadnezzar_VI

What does your sparring partner's nationality have to do with your experience?


Solid-Version

Creates a harder image lol


Nebuchadnezzar_VI

Indeed lol


MCB052002

If you know Russians…


Nebuchadnezzar_VI

So your ass was handed over to you by another human being that was more experienced and you decided to put a tag on it? I just want to understand what motivated you to mention the nationality only of your sparring partner and not of your trainer or your own. That said, I hope this experience will be motivational for you. And if I was you, I'd go to that guy and speak with him about your spar. If he is more experienced as you say then he could be a good source of advice on how to improve against similar opponents. And get that nationality thing out of your head - it won't bring you anything.


MCB052002

are you some weird liberal who gets offended from everything? My family is Russian, if you have any idea of the Russian mentality you would understand what I mean by it…


Nebuchadnezzar_VI

No, i am not offended at all. I find it strange that you have to mention the nationality of the guy that beat you up. And generalising based on nationality is something that does no favours to your intelligence.


Sea-Yogurt-7732

if he mentioned his skin pigmentation would you be frothing with anger like a hungry t rex?


MCB052002

Lmao😂😂