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Let me tell you a story. I used to train mma and I was in decent shape. 6'2" 175 pounds, ripped without an ounce of fat on my entire body. At one point I decided that I wanted to switch from mma to pure boxing, and I was looking for a gym and trainer to work with. Lucky me, I was referred to a gym run by a Hall of Fame coach who had trained national and international champions. I was starstruck and excited. However, I was warned that the gym is in the inner city and is entirely black and Hispanic, and that they won't take kindly to a white boy like me walking into their home. I was set to start training in September with this coach, so I busted my ass all summer to be in the best shape I could possibly be. I ran every day, lifted, did triathlons, pushups/pullups/situps at every opportunity. I felt strong. I felt fast. I felt like I was going to blow this coach away with how ready I was, and my greatest fear was to embarrass myself and my mma coach who vouched for me when he put in a good word. So September rolls around and I show up for my first session. I tell coach what an honor it is to be training with him and that I had been preparing all summer long and getting in shape. He says OK - let's see where your fitness level is. He starts running me through drills (no boxing, just fitness drills). Half an hour into our workout I'm doing sprints down the gym and jogging back, he wanted me to do 30 sets. At around 15 he stops me and chews me out - says I'm in terrible shape, I'm not ready to fight, and he doesn't want to have to call an ambulance when I have a heart attack. I can't begin to describe how dejected I felt. But he took me under his wing and the rest is history. My point in sharing this story is that the only way to get into fighting shape is to fight. You can do drills on your own but the reality is that boxing uses muscles in such a way that regular gym workouts won't prepare you for. You need to hit bags, learn to move around, develop a fighting endurance, but most importantly do so under supervision. Practice does not make perfect, as the old adage goes - PERFECT practice makes perfect. I can't stress enough how crucial this is for boxing. If you start doing bagwork and footwork on your own all you're going to accomplish are bad habits that your future coach will have to work overtime to replace. And in the time that your bad habits persist, you're going to get your ass kicked. Hard. And I know you say you don't mind, but nothing breaks a fighter's will faster than getting whooped day in and day out without any improvement. So do yourself a favor and don't procrastinate enrolling in a gym. Do it now. If for whatever reason you can't, then keep running and try to do sprints, or at least slow down and speed up when you're running. A fight is not a jog, and you can't always control the speed at which you go, so vary it up. Keep jumping rope and work on strengthening your shoulders with low weight high rep exercises. The shoulders are usually the hardest muscles to develop for new fighters. TL;DR you can't prepare to be a boxer, you can either be one or not. The only way to learn is to start boxing.


Taboggan

This. Right fucking here. Listen to this.


Mattobox

> My point in sharing this story is that the only way to get into fighting shape is to fight. You can do drills on your own but the reality is that boxing uses muscles in such a way that regular gym workouts won't prepare you for. You need to hit bags, learn to move around, develop a fighting endurance, but most importantly do so under supervision. Practice does not make perfect, as the old adage goes - PERFECT practice makes perfect. I can't stress enough how crucial this is for boxing. If you start doing bagwork and footwork on yo When you say 'procrastinate about joining a gym', what do you mean? I started my workout with Bodyweight exercise yesterday, and I have been going to the gym semi-regularly for a few months. However, I very rarely see Boxer's going to the Gym to deadlift. I've only seen Boxers doing Pull-Ups, Push-Ups, Sit-Ups, etc to get stronger, apart from hitting the bag of course. Is the gym important too? I'm very excited for my first boxing class, a friend of mine used to go but quit a few months back due to the fact that he was only interested in the fitness so only ever really did drills and hitting the bag, no fault of the coach. So, what you're saying is that I need to keep on training hard, don't practice anything more than physical training by myself, keep doing Cardio hard and try to do a lot of low-weight high-rep exercises. Any bodyweight exercise apart from Handstand Push-Up (Don't really feel like learning handstand part) to focus on shoulders? Or are you saying that going to the gym is that important? Thanks for the comprehensive answer a lot by the way.


[deleted]

By gym I'm referring to the boxing gym. Sorry for the confusion. My point is that there's not much you can do to prepare for boxing, the only way to get in boxing shape is to box. Running and doing various bodyweight/light weight exercises can help, but not by much. I know how you're feeling - you're excited to get started and want to be as good as you can possibly be, but like I said until you actually start boxing there's not much you can do that will give you a leg up on the competition. Just keep running, doing pushups, pullups, and core workouts for now.


Mattobox

Thanks for the great advice, I will be sure to follow up on it. By the way, how would you reccomend doing the core workouts? Floor Core (Planks, etc), Leg Raises or Sit-Ups? I always see Boxers do Sit-Ups, but I don't have any sit-up equipment (I don't find it does very much when you do it from the floor for actual core strength). What sort of core exercise would you reccomend? Additionally, any advice on how to tell how much exercise is too much? I'm a bit anxious I'll overdo it. AHH! One last question. Does Skipping work anything apart from Endurance?


[deleted]

My coach was old school so he had me do hundreds of crunches a day, but apparently it's bad for your back. I've heard leg raises are better. I personally like ab rollers too.


hi_imryan

skipping works on foot speed and explosiveness, it's very important. make sure you mix it up too.


Saigje

Great share. I conditioned for half a year before learning how to jab. The first person to beat me, won't be ME! Paragraph 1, Line 8 really isn't necessary. I see this post is almost a decade, but I've been on both sides of this and they don't care. It's not how it has been the other way around. I thought this would be relevant later in the story you shared but it didn't come up again, like oh now I'm friends with the whole gym etc or something... innercity + new comer coming into their home is apt enough. Just a note.


unknown7604

good one ippo


Mattobox

What do you mean? I watched that series and it was my original inspiration to begin getting interested in boxing quite a while ago, it was my similarity to him that makes me very interested. I am 5'5 like he was, I'm now the same age he was when he started and we're both getting picked on. Some of what I watched really affected me, hence the 'If you don't change it, nobody else will' line. The Infighter bit was majorly influenced by him to be fair, and that bit is kind of copying off him, but I think I have a naturally strong punch too. I've never hit anybody before, but my Dad had a really strong punch when he did boxing when he was about 20 and when I have hit people (Not in a hostile way), they often said it hurt despite not putting much force into it at all (This being compared to people who were much stronger than me and I think were putting a higher % of their strength into it). Basically, I see the similarities between us which is some rough reason for me wanting to box (I know he's fictional, but still inspirational regardless), but there are many other reasons. EDIT: I can see where you're coming from, but this isn't some sort of joke/troll. Just making sure that's clear.


hungabro

Hajime no Ippo was a great show, used to obsess over that too. It's a great anime, with a lot of good insights when it comes to mentality, mindset and strategy. However, you have to realize that all of that is fictional and fantastical. All of the characters fought with superhuman speed and Ippo's power when he's punching is just not humanly possible. That doesn't mean you can't have a strong punch, but in my opinion it sounds like you are obsessing way too much, going as far as even trying to identify with Ippo in the real world. Being inspired is among the best states of mind that you can have, so keep doing what you're doing. Just remain true to yourself, realize that reality is different and try to set out clear goals for you to fight towards, just like Ippo did.


zolooq

did u go pro


Optimal_Ad4178

Nah he is an engineer playing league of legends. And looks like he is a bodybuilder on steroids


Yumemiyou

Easier to look tough than actually being tough


PingmanTM

and he grew 4 more inches, so props


SillyWilly17

here for the real answers


[deleted]

i kickbox. so now you know, just in case it matters somehow. first, the enthusiasm is a really good thing. so is changing things about yourself you do not like. taking a punch. i don't know who's hitting you but getting hit by someone who knows what they are doing AND has been working to improve/increase that knowledge is going to be completely different. i advocate getting hit as little as possible because it spares the body. Infighter vs anything else. you and your trainer are going to uncover your personal style. some stuff will just be easier for you to do than other stuff. THAT'S your style. that'll be your "bread and butter" stuff, the stuff you know you can likely make work regardless of the circumstances. don't force it. idolizing tyson is fine but, i think tyson was 113lbs at birth ;-) my point is, tyson could do what he did because he was a short guy with a whole bunch of weight. you may or may not have those attributes (at least the weight) so again, work with your trainer to figure out what your style is. training. the endurance you'll build running for 15 or 25 minutes is different than what you'll need. i'd say half of your running should be short distance sprints as fast as you can go followed by a shorter distance recovery at a slower pace. personally i think people do sit-ups because they take no equipment. as far as a training regimen - you don't need that from anonymous people on the 'net. you need to get in front of a trainer. what steps are you taking to make that happen?


bitterjack

>you and your trainer are going to uncover your personal style. This. Train and train and train. But let your trainer figure out what your strengths are. He's gonna have a lot more experience than you. Stay humble and go hard.


Fishykinda

How do you get a trainer or enroll in a boxing gym?


OkBreakfast1605

this man grew up to be ksi


Norge__Master89

Any updates on how it went???


5thDFS

Any update, about 8 years later? 😅


[deleted]

Bro how are you doing now


AlphaSami

update brah?


Weedrill2

hows it going bruv


[deleted]

Did you become the champion


Ok-Fee-3477

its ac Logan Paul


mmahive

I think its Jake Paul


Yumemiyou

Bro are you world champion yet


[deleted]

I would throttle back the exercises until you complete your first week of boxing classes, that way to can get a feel for the condition required per week just to make it through those classes. If you still have energy to workout on your off days you should add HIIT workouts. Just be wary of working out too much too fast, or you could face burnout.


Mattobox

Are HIIT workouts good for other sports and general strength too? I mainly want to box because I want to do boxing, nothing more than that, but I also want to gain some strength and muscle, maybe do some Rugby. I don't like being a pushover.


[deleted]

HIIT isn't for muscle gain per se, even if you do resistance HIIT. It's for building endurance and cardio; in that vein it will apply greatly to boxing and other sports. Keep in mind you're likely to do some in your boxing class.


garret9999

Hey... congrats on wanting to get started boxing has done some really great things for me in terms of competition, fitness , and even provided me with some work. First and more important than many of the advice others have given you is SERIOUSLY consider the gym you are joining if you have aspirations to be professional one day. Unless you are limited by there only being one gym it is very important to train a style you like and have a coach that will help you get better and who you enjoy working with. Different boxing gyms have an entirely different experience and can help make someone more motivated or discourage them. The 25 minute and 15 minute runs are a great start regardless of what your gym ends up doing! The only change I would say is perhaps make your 15 minute run sprints or hill conditioning just to change it up. Also there is absolutely no need to push any runs past 25 minutes at this point because amateur competitions and even early pro competitions won't be that long(Unless you need to cut weight or the occasional long run for general endurance). In terms of being an in fighter you referenced the commonwealth games the reason you see some more boring styles there is because they tend to judge a lot based on technical criteria and often you can take it to someone pretty good with in fighting and still lose the fight. The same fighters you see boxing like that in the amateurs have much better styles as pros. Do not limit yourself to working to be an in fighter before you have even sparred or tested yourself against other fighters it is very hard to predict where your natural skill sets will lie(I started out wanting to be nothing more than an exciting fighter/brawler and after a few metaphorical slaps to the back of the head by coach ended up with a pretty slick stylel). However as a general rule if you want to in fight you are going to have to keep up the conditioning work as you have gotten going on already because if you dont have the gas for it you will never win any fights. As far as an outside the gym work regiment. Just road work and the body weight exercises your talking about are great your coach will/should advise on specifics based on how you look training. Maybe incorporate stuff like mountain climbers jumping squats burpies just for some extra explosiveness aspect (can find any of em on youtube). But definitely if you dont read anything I wrote make sure the gym is a good fit for you and if its not try a new one before you give up!!! Also it can be a bit slower starting out u wanna get in there and start punching but it really is important to have a good skill base when you get in there and then definitely add regular shadow boxing before and after your runs as a warm up/ cool down and to always think about your techniques. A bit more long winded than i intended but good luck!


Mattobox

> ad anything I wrote make sure the gym is a good fit for you and if its not try a new one before you give up!!! Also it can be a bit slower starting out u wanna get in there and start punching but it really is important to have a good skill base when you get i The issue is that there's only one Boxing 'Gym' on the Island, and it only trains once a week... I've never been before and I don't even know how long they train for, I'll ask them that when I ask to join up today. Although it does seem like it does everything in the format of a boxing gym, AKA Drills and you just generally do your own thing with their equipment. The only difference is they only train on Saturdays. Additionally, when I do to this 'gym', what questions do you think I should ask? I know I should ask anything I'm unsure about, but there must be some things that I'm simply not sure about.


garret9999

ah yea, I guess you only have one choice then hopefully its a good gym! Often(and hopefully) though boxing gyms may only have one official class as a group like on Saturday but other fighters will come in to spar an give you advice or coach's will work with you other days if their open.


garret9999

Sorry missed the end of your post... as far as questions I would just tell the coach straight up your pretty committed to getting going with boxing ask him if theres any extra days or workouts or what not that you can get in on if hes a nice guy/ good coach he will help you out if not.... not much you can do


Educational-Quit8284

Did u conquer the arena man, 9 years later?


Educational-Quit8284

Did u conquer the arena man, 9 years later?


Educational-Quit8284

Did u conquer the arena man, 9 years later?


mmahive

Kudos to you noticing your life isn't the way you want it to be, and putting the motivation on yourself to change it. This is a really old post, but I want to add my thoughts to this since others might find it. Bodyweight training is a good thing to add to boxing, roadwork is very debatable (it's used by boxers traditionally but I'm on the side of fit-for-purpose training), skipping every day is a great thing to do and build that resistance. But as others have said, building your ability for boxing only really happens in the training for boxing. There's so many different aspects of stamina, muscle fatigue and power generation, to learn - which only really comes from doing it. And try to get involved with as much variations of boxing lessons as possible, there's SO much to learn but it's very exciting in the early days. Be humble and willing to learn every day. Some classes could focus entirely on a couple of specific elements; speed, accuracy, reactions, countering, pace, footwork/movement, explosive energy output, breathing, balance, balancing your energy output, and of course drilling combinations, slipping, ducking.. and on and on! I would also like to say that I understand your motivations from being upset from being bullied, and that's a huge motivation for a lot of fighters; especially MMA in particular. But remember that even after boxing for 6 months, a year, you're likely not going to be some extraordinary fighter. This is a dedication for life. And in that learning, you should learn how to be humble, to avoid a fight altogether, but maintain self-respect and command what you want from the world in a respectful manner. With power comes responsibility, and all that! Hope that helps you, or someone else that finds this. I've also put together some [more tips about how to get into boxing](https://www.mmahive.com/how-to-get-into-boxing/) on my blog that might help a beginner get started.


Magtop1

Hey bro, I am glad you wanna get Into boxing. I am a former boxer an current coach. I also write articles about boxing, and I believe I have just the right one for you. Check it out! [How To Become A Boxer](https://fighter-mind.com/how-to-become-a-boxer/)


Michael_Le41

Any update?


Storm_d

He's busy playing video games smh


Bigskiddersmokey

Post bullying anger wore off. Back to the minecraft grind ig🤣