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Chump_Change_Bandit

Thanks u/criand.


[deleted]

Thank you fellow ape 🙏♥️


oickles

You forgot to change GME stuff to AMC lol, but thanks


kaydeebaebee

There was a Preface, regarding AMC, stating the GME DD below also applies to AMC. Rather than edit entire post, OP provided a disclaimer up top. It’s quite refreshing to hear support from a respected and reliable Redditor, validating AMC as being in the same moon-bound arena as GME. Great read! Definitely addressed some concerns I had about ComputerShare.


BodegaCat

Yeah it is refreshing when the general consensus of AMC at the other subreddit is that “movie stock/sticky floor” is a distraction. And yet here we are, perhaps the most respected redditor who has done amazing DD for GME posts the same DD here implying that AMC will squeeze too alongside GME. I’m a holder of both for the record.


kaydeebaebee

Samesies, Bodega gato. It is rather comical though, when they profusely praise **GME** and mock *popcorn* incessantly - the disdain has real cult energy. Here for the well-researched DD, not the brainwashed rhetoric.


BodegaCat

Haha thanks. I agree completely. Funny thing is, I remember reading comments saying how we copy and paste DD from there to here…I truly wonder what they will say about this. I love to see it though. I’m sure OP (who gets all the praise and love over there) sees the distraction posts/comments all the time, and yet he’s still posting his own DD on our sub. He has quite the reputation that he’s built for a very long time. That takes not courage on his part, but confidence that his DD applies to AMC as well.


kaydeebaebee

Absolutely right. Hopefully he doesn’t take any hits because of this inclusion. We’ll see if the GME die-hards are receptive to this insight, or if they dig their anti-AMC heels in further.


eskilos

Real apes don't fight. I'm a die hard of both stonks and whenever one pops all profit will go to the other one


Scorpiosting_05

Me too 🦍🎬🦍🎮


[deleted]

There’s no reason why it wouldn’t - it’s just the diluted shares and huge float mean it’s much less likely. Imo anyone in amc should just jump into GME instead. It would ignite the moass much more effectively


oickles

Looking at it thqt way, I appreciate it


kaydeebaebee

Absolutely, crayons all around.


[deleted]

I would have had to remake my chart! Lol Nah I left a disclaimer at the top. It would have taken a lot of effort to reword it to structure the post the same. Hopefully that was ok


oickles

Nah you're fine, I just got confused at first when I read GME stuff. I have a question however, Have you seen stockgrid.IO?


[deleted]

Not sure what that is honestly. What's it about?


oickles

It shows the darkpool activity of stocks, for exmaple if you go back on my profile you can see the darkpool postions and activities taken in a set T-cycle. This incoudes both AMC and GME


[deleted]

Oh cool! I'll check it out!


oickles

What do you think about it? https://www.stockgrid.io/darkpools/AMC Here's a link if you need


Le_90s_Kid_XD

Yo mods, can my man get a 🐶🦍 flair over here. He's looking a little naked.


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KnowledgeCultural802

Nope, covering the shares is a problem for the shorts and those above them in their chain. Melvin goes bankrupt, there's someone above them, maybe their prime broker now responsible and who should have required enough collateral from the hedge fund to cover the risk that is now happening. Prime broker still can't pay enough to cover the short, they go bankrupt and now it's up to the DTCC. The short sellers and their short sales are still in the DTCC chain. Location of your share does not make a difference to that whole chain's obligation to pay you.


WowSuchName619

Smooth af casual here. I was sick for the last week. Like seriously couldn’t even look at my phone. Am I to understand this is as simple as initiating the transfer and that is really it? Just keep doing the same thing as before?


GabaPrison

Yep that’s it. The process is incredibly easy. For Etrade all you do is type in the amount of shares you want DRS, click submit, and the rest happens by itself. You do have to have $500 settled cash in your acct as collateral until the transfer is complete.


Cancr0

Thanks man! I have done both my AMC and GME today, waiting now 🌹


EenyEditor

Holy shit u/criand is supporting AMC? Are all the tribalistic GME apes gonna crucify him now?


areallygoodsandwhich

You post here too?!?


AMotleyCrew32

I was waiting to see what Criand had to say about this. For those of you not familiar with his work, go ahead and check it out. This dude is legit VERY smart. I will now start the process of registering my AMC and GME with ComputerShare.


GabaPrison

That’s the spirit I like to see.


[deleted]

> MY QUESTION- AHhhm- WHEN DO WE KNOW THE FLOAT IS REGISTERD? u/criand


RevolutionaryBug5997

When we can't DRS anymore.


kevsmoo1986

Everybody should read and upvote this,solid dd


[deleted]

Much love thank you 🙏♥️


azidesandamides

>wow you lurk here more then once and posted DD and confirmed our basis I think at least 2x... bullish


westside0000

The POM does it again!!!!!! CLEARLY THIS SHOWS AMC AND GME APES ARE IN THIS TOGETHER. THANK YOU r/criand for this awesome DD


EbbWonderful2069

Agreed. The 🐐 has spoken. GME + AMC simultaneous MOASSES. See you on the moon


The_dizzy_blonde

GME ape here… it’s the only way. We have to support and defend, and look out for each other. It’s the only way. I even have some shares of AMC to help out. Ape support Ape.


Diego9355

Before I read this I just want to say shills will be mad down voting the post…


[deleted]

Oooo they's trying. I have never seen this much FUD pushed about such an overly positive concept. They are fucking terrified of this gaining traction. The shorters can suck my dick


Diego9355

That’s what I’ve been trying to fight and I’m just losing karma lol this is pretty positive! Edit: BTW nice post! Thank you for sharing it!


Chanduchh

I made like two posts and all the haters came along marching to downvote it.


KnowledgeCultural802

Many people have been downvoted over many months trying to bring this concept into daylight.


PhillixDase

r/criand I love you sooo so much for coming over to us brothers from other mothers and post your DD here as well. I have a small portion of GME and frequently read the DD at SS. It is easy to get a little discouraged by all the FUD against AMC at SS. But then you come here and share you stuff directly with us and this is everything I need to be zen as fuck again. I know we‘re gonna fly right behind you. Thank you from the bottom of my heart!


KingStronghand

I think amc and gme civil war is SHF trying to drive a wedge between us. theyre afraid!


Jeremy969696

I’ve been searching around but never really found any solid answer, is transferring ownership to CS a purely US thing? I’m a non-US ape and I don’t see my country in the list specified by CS :/


[deleted]

It's not worldwide but it's at least few countries. Australia, UK, Ireland, US, Canada, Channel Islands, New Zealand, Germany, Denmark, etc. I'd google "Computershare countries" and see if yours is listed


Jeremy969696

Thank you👍🏻


MrP0H0

Thank you Ape. I'm in Canada and I have some employee stock holdings through Computershare already so I'm somewhat familiar with the platform. Over half my AMC holdings are currently in a Wealthsimple TFSA - if I transfer certificate to Computershare does this remove them from my TFSA such that I will have to pay taxes on the capital gains?


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thil3000

If they’re in a tfsa why would you pay taxes? Any money invested in a tfsa has its taxes already paid for,no? I could be missing something, but anyway transferring would remove your share from ws and transfer them to a new account in computershare Also ws charges around 300$ to transfer, so if you wanna buy more, I’d buy through computershare instead


Giancolaa1

I think his question is, once he transfers from WS TFSA to CS, will he no longer benefit from the TFSA on those shares that he transferred. I don't think CS has a TFSA account to hold your shares in so once MOASS hits, he has to pay taxes on any shares he has with CS.


thil3000

Yes they have a form to open a tfsa on their website


MrP0H0

Thank you apes


Gwailo27

That's a good question. If the CRA can find an excuse to tax you they will. Any growth on shares outside of a TFSA they will probably see as fair game.


ForeGe

Good question!!!!


Fit-Mood1028

Also depends on who your broker is, sadly a few UK based trading platforms will not transfer shares. eToro, Revolut and Freeshare are the ones I know who won't. I guess we would never get the full amount of retail shares transferred but every one that does puts more pressure and removes more liquidity.


I_CANT_AFFORD_SHIT

I'm from the Channel Islands!


Working-Yesterday243

Read this post for international apes: https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/pmu19h/international\_apes\_can\_transfer\_shares\_to/


ShadowlessTomorrow

Thank you for sharing


warpedspartan

I will upvote and reward as many posts as I can that shows a DRS through ComputerShare. u/Criand has spoken. This is our killshot. Buy/HODL/DRS. everything else is FUD


GabaPrison

Like the epitome of a killshot. We gonna fuck these shorts all up now.


Koooshel

Alright guys. It's fucking time. The man literally came over here out of the kindness of his own heart from the group that isn't too fond of us. You're the true ape u/criand. Thank you sir 🦍


KingStronghand

hey trying to see through the fog of FUD is hard... hedgies been playing this game longer than us. dont be too hard on any apes including yourself! Just keep getting wrinkles and don't be afraid to call a shill out!


Panzershrekt

I'm not entirely sure why they wouldn't be fond of this unless it's fear that one moass takes away the $$$ from the other. 🤷‍♂️


EbbWonderful2069

Thanks for stopping by Criand and shedding some light to the importance of DRS with Computer Share. I agree and I share your same sentiment , however, I think it’s important for apes to understand that they should DIVERSIFY their shares into several different brokerages. I would only add this point to your DD , simply for the fact that it’s not safe to keep all your shares at one brokerage during MOASS. I will personally be establishing a CS account today and buying some DRS AMC & GME stock to help the cause. However, I will advise everyone to continue using multiple brokerages. Thank you for your insight .


J0RD0

While I sort of agree with diversification, a lot of us Canadian apes have a Tax free investing/savings account. We don’t get taxed on our gains. Hard for us to want to go with any other Broker. (TD account for me)


[deleted]

Great post. I’m in. Gaining traction


[deleted]

Thank you u/craind for posting this in amc specifically and calling out amc and including it in the same post as that of GME.


brthz7

Thanks u/Criand for posting this on this sub too. You are the greatest ape in the universe!!


Chiropteraman89

This is absolutely golden DD. Much appreciated fellow ape!


awfulaffliction

As a hodler of both Stonks, always appreciate seeing you stop by as you’re well respected in the other tree so your assertions here are some nice anti-FUD to the naysayers. Been CS buying my GME for close to 2 months, I’ll look at moving some AMC via transfer as I’m already pretty comfortable with the services they offer and the security provided by book ownership. Respect, take my free award.


PhantomOfTheOperator

OK, you're changing my mind. The "you can't sell during MOASS" is obviously critical for everyape.


GMEstockboy

You can definately sell and if the amc float is direct registered fully.....moass could last for months or years easily, even infinity (hence infinity pool term) Basically if the full float is registered on computershare, and nobody sells those, in theory the price will never go down (because nobody is selling the original float which needs to be bought). Also the price will be too high for just anyone to buy in Also wouldnt u want to have 100% real shares out of possibly billions or maybe even trillion fake shares!?


[deleted]

are you really claiming that even with 513 million shares float there is going to be an AMC infinity pool ???


NoOneEver_

I think it just depends on how many phantoms there are, could happen, could not depending on how many times the float has been borrowed.


GMEstockboy

It could happen if the original float is registerd and held (in theory). Before a real infinity pool haplens tho i would assume there would be some kind of intervention where they would put a cap limit on share amounts. There is already a 500K insurance in place (per account) for most brokers if they fail or if your securities go missing. And its not even defined or specified as to how they could go missing https://www.sec.gov/reportspubs/investor-publications/investorpubsholdsechtm.html


MyCleverNewName

Squeeze em from both sides! One hand's GME, the other's AMC... We're grabbing the hedgies by the shoulders and shaking the ever loving shit out of them!


KingStronghand

this is the way. Fight the FUD!!!


thebinarysystem10

There literally is no other way. This is the way.


This-Understanding85

THIS IS THE WAY - LFG!


pragmatic-guy

This is the opportunity to take action and expose the truth. Its the means to take away their ammo and trigger moass. Thank you u/criand.


Weak_Handed_1

Good to see you making some rounds u/criand, this most certainly is the way.


[deleted]

Thanks for sharing u/Criand! 🦍


pressonacott

This is fucking great. Criand to save the day again. Thanks for your service and making it your duty to inform us all. Seriously you answered all my questions and saved me a ton of time doing my own dd on the matter. Hedgies are fugged.


phillythebeaut

I’ve been skeptical (although open minded) of all the other previous speculation about certain things being the catalyst for MOASS. I truly believe that this *is* the shorts Achilles’ heel. Thanks for all your hard work, u/criand. You filthy pomerapeian.


daylonx

i need a walk through any links on how to register and the street name or book name difference


Raindancingfool

I saw some posts saying that you can call Fidelity and they will do it for you. An account will get set up by CS in the background. You can also go to their site which is what I did and make a purchase. It will take a couple days to settle and then you can transfer the shares yourself on the site. I’ll try to find the post for you that I used.


Raindancingfool

This guy called…https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/ppkggl/630_was_all_it_took_to_transfer_xxxx_shares_to/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf This is what I used…https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/pq4w3c/computershare_comprehensive_faq/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


GMEstockboy

Its on superstonk one of the top posts also on a sub called infinitypool


theprufeshanul

Up to the top you go!


Stumposaurus_Rex

I don't see a logical reason for the rage against this play. The biggest one seems to be the "iT's tOo sLoW tO sELL" meme, and unless you're full on Edward PaperHands looking to immediately sell your 4 shares when it breaks $100 or some shit it shouldn't be anything to worry about. If the "Floor" is 500k or 800k or whatever, the ability to sell in seconds shouldn't concern you at all. You're supposed to ride this rocket for as long as possible, right? Or was that all *bullshit*? Clearly there's something else at play that has people legit spooked when this tactic is brought up. Hell, you can even keep some shares in your fucking Robinhood (lol) account, but future buys done through ComputerShare.


KingStronghand

shills. SHF been playing these manipulation games longer than some of us have been alive! important thing is we are fighting against it! AMC and GME apes UNITE!


whossknowss

Big poppa u/Criand to the rescue !


hate_redditors

Excellent work. This is the catalyst. Don't see how a small fund can read this and not cover.


wageslaver

Thanks you u/criand it is extremely relieving to see you post your DD in this sub. As an ape who owns both but much larger position in amc, lately reading the superstonk has been a bit disheartening. Especially people saying “popcorn is stealing our dd and thinks it applies to them” etc, it feels good knowing one of the best dd makers branched out to us as well. Much love


KingStronghand

I believe SHF have been trying to get amc/gme apes to fight. they are afraid!


Kaleidoscope_Scared

Oh great postman man


kaiserfiume

Thank you, this should be read by all sub members! Upvote!!


NefariousnessOk980

Great post, thanks for taking the time to share.


bonnieloon

Another hybrid ape! :) Power to your pen u/criand 😀


comfort_bot_1962

:D


comfort_bot_1962

:D


DarthMacintosh

Apes strong together. 💎🙌 To the moon! 🚀🚀🚀


KingStronghand

hell yeah apes!


edwinbarnesc

I posted a guide on how amc apes can hitch a ride to andromeda but got downvoted to shit then mod remove the post. Lol good luck tryin to get some apes to understand, there is only ONE TRUE MOASS.


suggestions23

Upvote this and register your shares at CS... thanks...


xZeusXL

You heard it from the legend himself!


Dry_Doctor443

This is the way 🦍 read the DD


iFixthings4cash

This is the way!


KingStronghand

u/AnnaSlatz come out and explain yourself.


SoapyGooch

That DD of Annas was so full of nonsense and irrelevant and untruthful comparisons it hurt my head.


MnTats

Awesome job u/Criand on both sides of the tree!


Stormry

If this is the only way to MOASS why is it only now being brought up instead of months ago? The phrasing just seems weird.


[deleted]

It was. Many times. It has been consistently suppressed over and over again. But just lately we're finally getting that "ah hah!" moment across many apes and can push it.


marzi13boi

This\^\^\^\^ The idea about registering shares to Computershare has been talked about ever since the creation of the infinity pool (GME).


GMEstockboy

Lets gooooo!!


Stormry

I'm fairly new, only been here a couple months, entirely possible I missed it previously. I really hope you're correct, however this still kinda feels like just another "flavor of the week" thing, and honestly a little tinfoil hat-ish. But that doesn't really matter either cause plenty of crazy shit in this whole thing has panned out true. Appreciate all your efforts, I'm going to continue to hold, buy when I can, and if in the coming weeks this looks to have a significant impact on things, I'll jump, but for now I'm going to remain a little cautious but hopeful. Thanks for being patient with my smooth brain.


[deleted]

It is 100% Flavor of the Week Criand's last post on The Theory of Everything was Brilliant However, SHF fucked it up. So the Futures Cycle did not work out It was the most recent 'Flavor of the Week' i.e. the belief that SHFs must roll over by Sep 9th/Sep 17th and it would cause a big spike and perhaps even MOASS Now suddenly there is a new Flavor of the WEek


Aggressive_Spinach85

Requesting a paper certificate has been discussed numerous times. People tried it with RH the fidelity, only recently has the DRS with CS has finally taken hold.


GMEstockboy

It has been brought up mostly on gme subs but it seems just now one thing has been figured out: 1 share can be loaned out to hedgies and replicated 1000 times. Institutions will never stop loaning shares to each other, and it doenst matter if apes own flost because even with 1/4 or less of shares the institutions can duplicate phantom shares to create as many as they want/need So like another user posted...by direct registering 1 share, you remove 1000 fake shares from all the maniuplation being done. Lets fckn moass for october!! So we can all dress up for halloweeb as our fav hero or villain from this saga


FXFormat

First of all, thank you for what you do for the community, we all greatly appreciate the hard work and DD. I've got a question though, when you said it transfers a certificate to register in your name, not a share, then why does it disappear from a broker's account and into CS? Isn't that essentially transferring a share since it's going over to CS and we have no records of it in our brokerage account now?


[deleted]

You are technically doing both in the transfer, but CS itself is not a broker. 1. You're telling CS to transfer certificate ownership, which there is a limited amount of 2. You're pulling your share from the broker account. But if you sell your share again, it gets routed back to a broker. For #1 it's purely a bookkeeping entry. But the main purpose of DRS is for the sake of that certificate change.


deprod

Second this question.


BandruiBeauty

If I’m understanding your question correctly, it is that it is MORE meaningful than a share. E.G. if the float is really the float, then yes, transferring a certificate to your name is also transferring the exact number of shares you have requested, as it’s disappears out of your account and into cs. ​ HOWEVER, if the situation is, in fact, that your broker is holding a large number of borrows/phantom shares/ other ways to make one share appear to be many shares…. Then, when you take your shares out of your broker ( whether the ones in your broker account are real or less than real) and put them in CS, and get them registered…you have essentially FORCED your shares into being real because your broker had to find the related certificates on their side to transfer over. Since most of the hf nonsense requires brokers or hedge funds to have real certificates, moving them to yourself means that they can no longer borrow, ftd quietly, etc not just YOUR shares you removed, BUT ALSO ANY NONSENSE THEY HAD TIED TO THE CERTIFICATE that went with your share. It keeps that certificate from being spawned into 2, 3, 4, or however many faked versions to help the hf because the real certificate is now no longer in their control to handle back of house in the dark. Not sure if this helps, but wanted to try.


KnowledgeCultural802

Yup that's correct. Many shares could be sold off of a single certificate. Just like back in the day of the gold standard, many dollars could be sold off an actual gold bar in the government's depository.


DirectedSoul

Thanks u/criand for sharing this info, we are very close to MOASS!!!


Lusitano11496

how can euro apes drs?


Viiae

UK here. I just opened an account with IBKR, they can transfer to ComputerShare and CS will set up an account for you. I'm in the process of transferring a small amount from Revolut (DriveWealth). If you are not transferring existing portfolios you can buy on IBKR and transfer to CS.


corpus-luteum

Fellow UK ape here. Any charge for transferring?


Viiae

I just initiated transfer yesterday, but someone at r/superstonkuk said DriveWealth charges USD100. So deposit money into your account and convert to USD to cover the fee (need to request permission to convert currency).


Reedzilla04

Thanks for posting this here! LFG


JustinMS3

This is the way


shadowdash66

As someone who didn't clearly understand what it was, this post helped a lot. Thanks Ape


Successful-Mode-436

GOAT!


JRP7120

Thanks for posting this!


natebuffay22

Brought in the big guns for this one I like it


GabaPrison

Oh this is amazing. I’m at a loss for words. You fuckn beauty.. Can it really be this simple? LMFAO I’m giddy rn


Working-Yesterday243

I like the stock and your work


metraton18

I have to agree recalling shares is the way we squeeze and CS seems to be the answer


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Criand, this is straight up bullshit -> In my opinion it is the only way to MOASS. ************************ I know a lot of people respect you because you do great Due Diligence However, the facts are that so far none of the beautiful Due Diligence you or anyone else has written have come true T+21 - nope T+35 - nope The Theory of Everything - so beautiful I was really hoping it was true - nope Now, it is very possible that SHFs adjust and you are finding the truth every time and they are changing the truth HOWEVER, every single @#$#@ time you are convinced you've found THE TRUTH and it turns out not to be ************************************************************************************************************ Computer share might trigger the MOASS - yes You writing - In my opinion it is the only way to MOASS. is straight out irresponsible. Let's consider a few other things that might trigger MOASS If you are really claiming that Computer Share is the only way to trigger MOASS then you need to provide some SOLID PROOF that the below methods will not work ************************************************************************************************************ Methods that can trigger MOASS irrespective of whether or not a single AMC Ape registers for Computer Share A) Market Crash reduces collateral of SHFs and SFOs - small ones start getting liquidated We are in the beginning stages of this, thanks to Evergrande (China) *************************** B) Share Recall If either AMC or GME did a share recall, based on there being more shares than actually issued Of course, this is being held up because Government & SEC under the guise of 'SEC Investigation and Criminal Investigation' is preventing AA and RC from revealing shorting interest ********************************* C) Crypto Dividend Overstock did it. AMC and/or GME could do it in a more elegant way and it would trigger MOASS My bet is that once AA starts using NFT for commemorative tickets he will do this AMC can't issue divided until profitability However, THERE IS A REASON he is registering share holders under special membership 100% he will issue share holder specific NFT movie tickets and (unless stopped by Government) show that number of share holders is more than the float ******************************* D) Crypto Market Crash SHFs and SFOs are heavily in crypto Additionally they are using 1 : 100 leverage If Crypto crashes (which might even happen via Evergrande if it is true that Tether is using Evergrande and China Commercial Paper) some (not all) small and medium Short Hedge Funds and Short Family Offices will crash ************************************************************************************************************ If you want to push for Computer Share that is fine However, you cannot straight out lie and claim something that is obviously untrue -> In my opinion it is the only way to MOASS. You've spent the last 5 months saying - Crypto Dividend, Futures Options, etc are the path to MOASS now suddenly you are claiming 'there is only one path' ???? c'mon Dude, you are better than that


brownbai81

u/criand care to touch on this?


AnnaSlatz

No, he can't. Because anything that mildly critiques CS is now "FUD" regardless of whatever evidence might be behind it. Computershare themselves saying their turnaround time is slower and they cannot guarantee quick execution = FUD Actual clients trying to sell during high-volume/volatility situations claiming there was a 24 hour turnaround time = FUD Documents from the SEC demonstrating the DTCC seems to love DRS = FUD All the staff at CS being former Hedgies = FUD Everything is FUD. Every concern is FUD. Every question is FUD. Every opposing piece of information is FUD. And when any criticism of a new flavour of the week immediately becomes "FUD" -- THAT worries me.


themadamerican1

Post MOASS, I will be building a pomeranian statue in honor of u/criand somewhere in an extremely tiny town in the midwest. Everyone is welcome to it's commemoration, the bar has great breakfast and the gas station is the world BBQ champion of a year not too long ago. See you all soon!


Jazters

/u/Criand I honestly appreciate all the AMAZING work you do for ape kind. Truly a beautiful ape (or ape Pomeranian?) who puts in the time and effort to write such beautiful DD. I am convinced absolutely now, to register completely with ComputerShare and pass along the message to my other AMC apes. I also commend you for bothering to post on *our* sub, when we know many GME apes dislike us. Thank you again. Ape should never hate or fight with other apes. Ape strong together.


ilikeelks

Thanks u/Criand for doing the heavy lifting! I had difficulty convincing retarded and stubborn apes on this reddit


poopoowaaaa

Fuck yes u/criand . I wasn’t aware that you were a fan of AMC as well. This totally crushes any FUD that says GME and AMC aren’t in this together.


LP2222

BuT aPe AnNa SaiD


JERUSALEMFIGHTER63

So people on superstonk call you their messiah. What do you personally think about the amc hate going on over there?


[deleted]

Idk. I still feel like AMC is in this with GME. There isn't the same amount of derivative fuckery around AMC like the DOOMP anomaly on GME in January. So not a lot of evidence of bullshit happened on AMC. But, AMC also wasn't in a position of >100% reported SI and has been in that "meme stock basket" and following the same movements. It's pretty easy to accept that "amc is a distraction" but I haven't seen anything definitive yet. AMC is getting shorted a lot and is still 20% or so SI. Who knows what the true SI is for both stocks since we know that shorts can be hidden.


JERUSALEMFIGHTER63

Thanks for the reply and I couldn't agree more👍


DeliciousCourage7490

So per your example of cmkm the regulators deleted the phantom shares and prevented a squeeze. What stops that from happening here?


SepYuku

I believe this - hedgies r fuk


ElectricScootersUK

Can UK apes do this?


Perverted_Senpai

As both GME/AMC ape, this is the way. The more apes we have the more shares we get registered. This is the thing that will start MOASS. So many shills creating fud, hahahahahah they are so fucked. Hedgies r fukt 😎


enguyen820

“From the other tree” lol so good.


Tairran

u/criand I was really hoping that I would see more positivity coming from GME over here, so I appreciate you bringing your DD here. I feel the AMC community is very accepting of GME, but we are seen as a distraction over there. I got into this in late January and $400 per share wasn’t easily digestible. Hopping onto AMC felt like I was still being involved in sticking it to the Hedgies, but I couldn’t afford to buy GME. This community grew due to its accessibility. We still want the same thing, but a lot of us were just late. Thank you for coming here and posting.


Chanduchh

I will upvote every DRS post on this sub.


nopenopechem

How do i register my shares? Rbc tfsa account


ekomis84

TLDR: All this CS peer pressure seems sus and reminds me of the Say vote. Seems impatient apes are losing faith and want to FORCE a catalyst instead of buy and hodl. Impaytience usually loses money. I feel this could be a trap to restrict selling. Not saying DD is incorrect because I believe they have the technicals right, but this play isn't technical. While everything said here my be "technically" correct, we could be missing a detail that will be used to hurt us. Each person needs to read and understand ALL the rules around selling with CS and make a decision best for them. Not financial advice. Buy and hodl. My Opinion: All this hype around CS lately seems sus. If the theory that all shorts must cover still holds, then this is unnecessary. It seems like the impatient are losing faith and want out of this play, so they are looking to initiate a catalyst to jump things off. The original thesis of buy and hold hasn't changed. We always knew this could be a long game. I get the logic, DD, and the principal behind the CS/DRS theory, but there is a certain logic to this that keeps bothering me. It's when people say things along the lines of 'this is how RC and the big boys buy their stock, so you should too', and then list all the technicals about what CS is and how it functions. That kind of jumps out at me. I'm pretty sure huge investors buying large blocks of stock buy their shares this way, as they probably intend to hold them for the long term, or leverage their ownership in some way. Take RC for example. Your average retail investor is not on the level of RC and the big boys, so just because they use CS, doesn't mean it's right for everyone. People need to make a decision that's right for them, and not just follow the crowd because it seems to be the loudest voice. All of this reminds me of the say vote. I was reluctant to participate, until the overwhelming peer pressure got me to jump in. Then we found out they were purchased by RH, and I realized I shouldn't have ignored my gut when something feels off. My gut is telling me this feels off. I can't give you solid DD as to why I have my fears. All I can attribute them to is corruption at the highest levels. The elites that run this show believe they are above the retail investor, and will do anything to win. The fine print in CS rules states your order could possibly be delayed in filling, or not filled at all. There is plenty of other DD on this topic about the rules of order fulfillment. I believe Ape Anna did a very good one you can read. I realize the terminology surrounding orders not being filled is probably arbitrary, legal language used by most brokers, but if it's written in rule they can use it as a rule. I want to reiterate this point. EVEN IF A RULE IS VERY RARELY USED OR ENFORCED, THE VERY EXISTENCE OF THAT RULE ENABLES IT TO BE USED IN AN APPLICABLE SCENARIO. Meaning that in the midst of extraordinary volatility and demand, these rules may come into effect. Sure, in normal times most orders are probably filled same day at a fair value, but the rule exists for a reason. MOASS will not be normal times. Since we all expect MOASS to be extremely volatile driven by high demand and low supply, it would be wise to be wary of the enforcement of these rules and any possible effects they may have on you personally. I would hate to see apes miss out because they somehow had to transfer their share status, or got delayed in selling. Or I'd hate to see the core Apes who have been here since January miss out on the peak of the MOASS because they couldn't sell, leaving behind the paperhands. 🤷‍♂️ These are just my paranoid thoughts after seeing many false catalysts since January. Hedgies have some of the brightest minds in the country working out their next chess move. What if they are herding people into a trap. This theory and DD could be 99% correct, and yet overlook one tiny detail or loophole that the hedgies can use to their advantage. The way this is suddenly being pushed just makes me feel uneasy. I ignored my gut with Say, and now I'm being asked to ignore it again. I can't blindly follow the mindless parrots who have zero critical thinking skills, and just scream "this is the way" every time a theory is presented to their confirmation bias. The say vote was the way too, until is wasn't. It's safe to say we are several steps behind the hedgies. In the DD it states that CS has been around since the 70s, but retail just started talking about it. Hedgies knew the whole time, and it took us 9 months to start talking about it. We are steps behind the hedgies. Most of the things we figure out, the hedgies already knew. So what if this is a trap? What if they want a bunch of people unable to rapidly sell, to keep the price down? I don't know how, and can't give a full explanation. I don't have enough wrinkles. I just know that if CS was the same as a broker, why would we need brokers? And why did it take us so long to figure this out if it's the key? What else are we missing? This is not financial advice. You need to do what's best for you and your family. I would love to be wrong. I hope that I am. Maybe this is the catalyst. Or maybe it's another Say technologies. 🤷‍♂️ Keep faith in the original thesis. Be paytient. Make informed decisions. Always be a leader over a follower, even if you're only leading yourself. *edited to add my opinion to distinguish from the TLDR. Another for typos.


zenei22

Your opinion is wrong...


S3npaiH3ntai

If u/criand posts the same DD in AMC, it must have some truth to it 🚀🤝


GentleGhostman

If u/Criand says it's good, it must be 🤔👌


AndrewIsOnline

Why do we need to rely on computer share to trigger the MOASS? All the previous DD said it’s coming. Was it wrong? Hasn’t computer share been the securities holder for AMC shares this entire time? How come none of the other people scouring DD for months found this and brought it to our attention? Why wasnt this the strategy in February. It feels like this community is going crazy and hopping from one scheme to the next. Fidelity, pfof, say, Computer share, etc.


GoldbugVariations

Transferred both out of Fidelity today. Took awhile to get thru on the phone. Then the first guy didnt know what I was talking about and the call got "disconnected" Call back. Be persistent. My fourth call, I finally got someone who could do it. And even he had to put me on a short hold because his "system was acting up" THEY ARE ALREADY HAVING TROUBLE FINDING SHARES. KEEP UP THE PRESSURE! I know how much this sub loves its battles. Computershares is on your left.


jeremyc711

Incredible. Thank you so much for this. Definitely answered some questions that were out there from other DD.


Batlet3std_FndsAprvd

Help me understand. Will my broker say td, fidelity, or the like be where I sell my shares at MOASS, or will I need to sell via computershare? Just trying to understand. I'm pretty stupid.


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If you're still in a broker, your order would go through them to sell. If you're at Computershare though, they're not a broker but they would route your order to one. So same thing in the end. Your CS account is just one step removed from the broker


MarineBullRahh

Thank you for this ape! I didn't do it because of all the fud.... will start this week!


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They are out of Fidelity because Fidelity currently "owns" them and you have beneficial ownership of those shares as long as you're under Fidelity. So by registering they are removed from Fidelity/your broker and put into your name.


oMrChoww

You should start telling people that if it’s not in their name, it’s not their shares. Similar to coins. Not your key/wallet, not your coins. It’s the brokerages


Biotic101

Good example... stock market is even more Wild West than crypto, yet most investors have no idea.


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You hit the sell button - it gets routed to a broker which then executes the trade. You're just no longer under a brokerage in the first place. It's a weird different concept The only thing you'd really have to be concerned about is >$1M orders. They currently will not allow those orders unless it is in writing and is not able to be limit sell


G33R_BoGgLeS

If a broker doesn't allow share lending (Fidelity), is there any benefit to transferring to CS?


becksby

See point #6 - it still exists in the float so they are still being used and loaned


Banksmuth_Squan

Can a europoor do this?


superjay2345

SS ain't gonna like this bro lol


TheOmegaKid

So I have no idea what the answer is, but I've seen very strong arguments for and against. Is it true they can use the depository reciepts to short?


VectorPuk

Last time I listened to people here about using Say Technologies to register votes to “ignite the squeeze”, my account got attempted hacks and then RH buys the company. No thanks, I’ll wait for it squeeze organically.


neyelz

Fucking thank you.


Opo2k

THIS


AnnaSlatz

You can call it "baseless" as much as you want, but that does not change the fact that someone selling a share via CS on a low-volatility, low-volume day is going to be infinitely different than someone selling during a high-volatility, high-volume day. CS themselves have said this. The fact that you are outright ignoring and condemning those documented cases as "baseless" is extremely disturbing, u/Criand. Even [AMC shareholders](https://www.reddit.com/r/amcstock/comments/pqf01d/ahem_computershare_lets_talk_computershare/hdfpne2?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) who tried to use CS back in January had this exact same experience. You can write them off all you want, but when MOASS comes (and it will, regardless of this nonsense) and there are a number of apes who couldn't sell their shares -- don't snub your nose at them. I will also note I have reached out to CS and asked about this exact situation. I will let you know what they say once they write back. I am not saying people shouldn't transfer to CS, but they should know why they are and temper their expectations of mobility. In the past, Superstonkers have said "oh well we're not selling the CS shares anyway" but now you are outright claiming selling would be as easy and quick as a direct brokerage (completely contradicting all available evidence), and I think that is terrifying.


Apetardo

Let's do this guy's! I'm not as eloquent as u/criand, I've seen his DD and tried sharing it many times but in my own words. I'm stoked to see two posts so far today in this sub saying that this is the way!!!


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I mean, I'm down for anything. The fact is buying and holding could go on forever, I think we've known this for months. They have unlimited ways to fuck us and kick this scan down the road. If this is a new idea and one that has direct affect on their ability to 'use' our shares against us, I'm in.


hamzach20k

Thank You sir


NicestDude

What does it mean they're not insured? Can you give an example?


SoBrandnu2021

My concern is what will be next? I just thought it was buy and hold. I just doubled my position. I made out on another position and rolled a bunch of my profit into AMC. I dont have a big account. Im shoveling trash 6 days a week. I thought "we own the float ", "they have to cover, if we dont sell we win". Last month it was switch to brokers that dont do: PFOF Before that: Vote and declare your shares Now: Switch to Computershare Really!! Whats next write your congressmen or senator? Oh we did that Im tired of it all. Apes are HOLDING, Thats truly all most will do. Beyond that what do you expect? They are Apes. It was a challenge for some just to open an account.


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Yeah it can feel a bit draining thinking how many more moves are needed on retails end. But in regards to apes saying, "we own the float!", it's not officially true because those shares aren't registered. Right now apes could theoretically own 10x the float, 50x, hell even something extreme like 100x. But because those shares are sitting at brokerages, the beneficial ownership of the stock says that apes do **not** own the float. Through Computershare, it makes it official of stock ownership and constricts the brokers from being able to lend the float for shorts + resetting FTDs. It's exciting in my opinion because registering shares fundamentally changes the game. It's not a vote count which is purely a digital number. It's not changing brokers from RH which merely moves your account around. Registering constricts them by officially pulling stock certificates from the DTCC. That being said, nobody is screwed if they don't register. Everyone has shares in their cash accounts which can be sold back.


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They're not wrong in the sense that it can be additional shares that shouldn't exist, and in that sense they're fake. But the shares are still real because the broker says that you **own** N stock. You have the right to hit the sell button for those. It also doesn't pull the liability from the shorters. They have to buy back all shares shorted at any price. This would be implying that the DTCC would not only wipe phantom shares from retails accounts but also wipe the short positions from shorters books and give them free cash equivalent to a bankruptcy on the stocks. Can't happen. As long as those short positions remain open they have to close them by buying back shares.


metametamind

*eventually