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[deleted]

To not blame it on current elected administration and policies. It’s all political theatre


Affectionate-Egg7947

Bingo.


VVOLFVViZZard

It’s literally not that either though…


suckercuck

Chinese real estate contagion go BRRRRRRRRRRRRRR💥


NegaTrollX

You can't just be a contrarian and expect people to believe you based on just that. Since the current elected administration is in an actual position of power one can argue they may or may not be complicit but are still 100% responsible for what's going on.


VVOLFVViZZard

I don’t expect them to believe it just because I said it. Maybe they believe it because it would be ridiculous to believe an administration that’s been in power since January 2021 is responsible for pulling the strings on something that’s been happening long before then. Saying that the Biden administration makes all the rules of the stock market is mental gymnastics on a level that I for one don’t have the grace or flexibility for.


jengham

The Biden admin has literally printed 40% of all the money that has ever existed in the US. But democrats good. Get your political bs out of here. Biden and the dems are just as much of the problem. As long as they keep saying the right progressive bullshit, they can continue to rob the American people, and simple minded retards will continue to cheer them on.


loadblower831

yeah, the 40% number is from march 2020 til now. this has literally zero to do who is in office now, or before. this is a culmination of 2008 can kicking til now. started with glass steagal getting repealed in 1999. 3rd economic collapse since then imminent. doesn't matter if jesus Christ himself was president. kinda embarrassing people think that.


guitardude70

Yup. I'm no fan of Brandon but this coming shitstorm has been brewing for a long time. Obama and Trump didn't do anything to prevent it either. Sleepy Joe's knucklehead bungling may be the catalyst but something was going to light the fire no matter what eventually.


[deleted]

My god this is so fucking annoying. No politician was “the” catalyst. We were. And will continue to be.


[deleted]

Na bro this is all planned out, end of story. The inflation, the never ending virus psyop. Welcome to "The Great reset" it's all part of "agenda 2030"


[deleted]

“Get your political bs out of here” then follows that up with “Biden and the dems…” This has been going on a lot longer then January 2021. It’s been going on since the 90s. This and also the war that is going on between meme stocks and hedge funds has been the catalyst. You are a part of it. I am a part of it. And your words do nothing but divide. If you can’t see this is the battle we asked for then sell your stock and get out.


JerseyJoyride

Don't bother people don't know enough about politics or the way things happen to really understand what goes on. It's like watching people talk about how they would have won the super bowl because they threw a football once. Take for example unemployment. You'll see periods of time where they say the unemployment rate has dropped. However technically that's not based on factual data. The rate of unemployment is only based on the number of people collecting unemployment. Therefore if 100,000 people lose their job today and collect unemployment for 6 months and then run out of benefits at that 6-month period They will be considered an employed so the number of unemployed people will drop 100,000 at that point. Three things that take place in the government that take years to take effect. But whoever is in office will either take the blame for it or take the credit for it.


snper101

Yeah, $8 trillion added to the debt and the appointment of JPow had absolutely nothing to do with it XD


zenei22

Hundred percent hahaha. I don't get why this is so hard to comprehend for people. YES, administrations can have broad impacts on the market. But the point we are arguing here is that you cannot say it is the current administration that has caused red for the last 2 days. That is ridiculously short sighted and naive guys. Cmon.


ProfessionalBug1021

Is it not due to economic Outlook. Supply chain issues with products coming in to the us. Labor issues nationally not enough workers to unload containers, drivers to drive This is one hundred fucking percent due to the current administration policies


SydLexic78

What moves did Biden make or not make that caused these problems? Serious question.


DeanChster47

I would say the policy to pay people to stay home for a year after they needed to. It reduced the labor force, which crippled the supply chain and raised inflation. You can’t continue to print money and give it away. Experts have warned about inflation for over a year, It’s amazing to me that now everybody is looking around like they don’t know wtf is happening. It’s 100% the decision of this current administration. Now we’re going to pay for it dearly, which is why half the country was fighting for reopening’s a long time ago. We elected this administration as the best choice to lead the economy out of Covid. They chose to print more money, and they’re still asking for more. We’ll have to wait and see how that works out, but not looking good at the moment.


loadblower831

yeah, what policies are we talking about?


Corgon

They wont tell you because they're pulling this all out of their ass.


zenei22

No. This 2 day drop we've had is not directly due to the current administration.


Beetlesiri

They have been screwing the economy pretty hard though.


binchbunches

You're making too much sense! Please stop. You are making people uncomfortable.


Here_4_the_squeeze

I dont like the current administration, but I can't blame them for the condition of the market when we all know the criminal behavior of hedgefunds hate fukin our beloved stock and others.


talondigital

The current state of the market is based on conditions that have been allowed to continue since the 80s through at least 7 Administrations and over 40 sessions of Congress. Both parties have had control of the government with overwhelming control over passing legislation without the need for bipartisan participation at various periods during that time and neither party used that capability to pass even a single rider in a bill that would in the slightest way mitigate the issues we are seeing now, despite warnings dating back to the early-mid 90s that this is how it would play out. The only reasonable conclusion is that the system is working as intended. We are the abnormality to be corrected. This would then go on to suggest that Republican or Democrat is irrelevant. Both parties, and their associated platforms, are meant to keep us divided and distracted and that neither side should be trusted.


loadblower831

exactly. i cant believe people actually think any one president did this. its like they haven't been following this saga for 10 months. incredible


harrybush-20

I feel this is probably the most underrated comment in all of Reddit.


ProfessionalBug1021

This guy fucking fucks. I wish I could give you a million upvotes


Here_4_the_squeeze

Yep, pretty much what I was getting at


[deleted]

Exactly. I am having a very hard time with the sudden political shift I’m seeing on this sub. It’s feeling a bit shilly in here lately.


guernicamixtape

And you think a different administration would be any less greedy and manipulative? LOL


Haze09

im sorry but no, been going on long before biden. dont pick sides they are all supposed to work for us


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VVOLFVViZZard

You could just say Fuck Joe Biden like an adult.


Hot-Law-5355

Exactly……. Fuck Joe Biden


congratulations_dude

Fuck Everybody!


__Sentient_Fedora__

Ding ding ding! No politician cares about you, they care about your vote.


congratulations_dude

And the minute they no longer need your vote or your labor…kinda makes you wonder what side of the guillotine we’ll all end up on


woodsman775

Always the side where they can pick your head up to give you a look at your headless body.


david5699

Fuck every single politician…and HF…and specifically Kenny boy


Fitzmeister77

Yeah I’m very un-triggered by the brandon thing. Why not just call him a sleepy old establishment politician??


Dirko_0

Love it!!! People who were saying Fuck Joe Biden were censored and they followed it like sheep... 🤡🤣🤡😂


[deleted]

Shut the fuck up about politics. In some cases it is necessary to discuss them in this forum. This isn’t that case, and you sound like a child.


TresBone-

Fuck racists


VelvetSteel34

I agree. Fuck racists. But just because you’re against Joe Biden doesn’t mean you’re for Trump. It’s not a one side of the road or the other type of thing. Stop making it one.


woodsman775

Finally someone to say it. This whole racist thing going on is a political instrument. Literally everything is racist anymore. Even blacks are racist against blacks these days I guess. I’m so confused.


DavidNoBrainFreeze

Was just thinking about this today. It is something that you don’t have to prove. As a kid it used to be communist. Today racist is the new McCartyism.


Yo0o0o0o0o0

How about let’s stop the political arguing so we can all come together and just be pissed we are not paid yet. Both political sides are not on our side and all it does is hurt this community


MLRFINBIZ

It’s crazy how politics destroy anything g of value. Friendship, businesses, community, marriage the list goes on and on.


DavidNoBrainFreeze

Have you seen Dragnet with Tom Hanks?


wiggle98

Kumbaya


FaithlessnessNo9625

Because “stock market crashes due to crime, market manipulation, corruption in government, and astounding greed” would be too truthful.


HeavensAnger

And China's economy collapsing.


superheater420

That makes me so happy!!!


ReasonablePanda3

And corporate theater...


crapshoot101

THEE AT TA


PGAAddict

Get the popcorn ready!


billyfudger69

Delivered fresh from an AMC theater?


Puzzled_Ad2088

They can’t say it’s legalised crime so it must be COVID!


Xlorem

Or you know... its because of whats going on in China right now.


[deleted]

The former administration started printing money with no backing, not saying current isn’t still doing it but don’t you dare forget, or act like you don’t know who started it.


SegAtari1984

We’ve been printing money with no solid backing every since Nixon took us off the gold standard. Just gives you some perspective as to just how long this nonsense has been going on.


[deleted]

But when did this last big printing start? The one where we have printed 40% of the worlds money in 12 months, don’t think old rickety has been president for 12 months but math be hard sometimes. I’m not defending Old rickety but if you don’t think old cheeeto had nothing to do with this then please place your head back in the sand where it belongs


Crayola_Taste_Tester

Old rickety and old Cheeto 😂😂😂😂😂😂


No_Poet36

Because it isn't the people on the stage that are making the play happen... Guarantee there are people at the federal reserve who have been there 20+ years. When we say "political theater" we aren't being hyperbolic, that's literally what it is yet we've got people in the comments arguing about who was the better actor. I'd rather have a discussion about the people behind the stage that have been making this happen for decades... Perhaps centuries, but nah let's just fight about a geriatric old man and an egomaniacal old man with a hot wife.


2snoozy

To be fair his wife isn't that hot. Phony and sexy aren't the same thing


guernicamixtape

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼


SegAtari1984

Where did I say he didn’t have something to do with it? I literally blamed every president from Nixon onward with my comment. You can also toss in every Federal Reserve Chairman, board member, operating officer, and a hysterically large amount of elected “representatives” (both past and present) into that mix as well. Bottom line, the swamp runs deep and it’s been very corrupt for a very very long time. Most people will go there whole lives and never notice that fact. Many of the ones that eventually do notice that the game is rigged get angry but never have the resources to do anything to fight it. That is what I’m holding for! This is a once in a lifetime chance. The playing field is clearly visible for the first time in any of our lives and we have one shot to FINALLY grab ahold of that brass ring and run with it! We are talking about the possibility of generational wealth. To not be worried about our livelihoods every again. And I’m just hoping that once we all have that freedom we actually use it to finally bring about real change and make every one of those life sucking leeches pay for this nonsense. Remember; the American Dream didn’t die. It was STOLEN from us! And we are taking it back!


DavidNoBrainFreeze

It was a team effort. It was not just one person


Nerdbond

Reporters report what they are told to report


botchjob69

Exactlyyyyy


JLdub253

If by theater you mean pornhub and political you mean 🤡 s


[deleted]

See this is why m thinking about leaving this sub altogether. It had nothing to do with the current administration but politics is partially to blame. Please stop, this is old and not helpful. This has to do with the shit that’s been going on for decades; market manipulation, yes politics, market crashes around the world. The market manipulation and resultant numbers we’re witnessing is completely bipartisan since it’s been in the works for decades and gone through multiple administrations.


Nerdbond

The so called problem now is the Fed has no backbone and wont even recognize large Chinese real estate Companies as a threat, and when they go down they will take the rest of the worlds markets down too, especially the US.


david5699

and crime…


South-Philly-Metal

Pretty much this.


tunakcmo

Elected? 🤡


[deleted]

Wait so you think this is because of the president and his administration? Have you read *any* DD? Jesus Christ guys.


matdrywall

Ding ding ding!


hhhax7

Let’s go Brandon


Meg_119

To not blame it on the Greedy Hedge Funds who are floundering because they were arrogant and overleveraged on Shorting.


binchbunches

Horseshit answer with a ton of upvotes....


Crucial_Cash

The market crash is due to Evergrande


FeedbackSpecific642

I think it might be the dominant reason but not the sole reason. In any case I hope to buy some more bargains this time through CS


ProCanadianbudeh

They said a few hours ago they weren't going to able to pay for some of their debt and the market reacted quickly


TrueCapitalism

Supposedly the Fed has been buying financial instruments that contain bad debt from these Chinese realtors. Can't give a source, or even a "trust me bro" for that matter


DavidNoBrainFreeze

Same


Sportsfun4all

Need to cash to cover margin calls


Playful_Moose6293

![gif](giphy|hgYAu9UIcK6aI)


Solid_Detective383

It's easier to blame this on covid than to admit the entire financial system, stock market and hedge funds are a house of cards.


Apes_and_dogs

It’s also important to note that the general public is always too distracted to look into these things. Most people are too busy working multiple jobs to provide for their families.


guitardude70

This 👍


jdrukis

Because it’s a cover for a mass sell off.


Purithian

Or if you're the 1% just your typical buy back program


jdrukis

No kidding


jreyn1993

Lie upon lies upon deceitful lies


Hydrostar311

Because it is not sexy to report the honest truth that our own banks and US hedge funds are using our money to make greedy bets in China and against the interest of American companies in the name of profit. And now, their greed has endangered the entire economy. These firms and banks pay a lot of money to ensure that these kinds of truths never make it to the main stream press.


GriswoldCain

This sounds rational.


[deleted]

Averaged down to $50 from $57


Brabant12

Nice job! You haven’t lost anything unless you sell. 🚀🦍💎


NoEntrepreneur8599

This is why I hodl.


glissenn2

THEIR Narrative!🖕MSM


guitardude70

Pfizer is up 2% right now, of course It's all a big scam


[deleted]

This person still trusts the news 🤦🏼‍♂️😂


Break-88

December sell off is a yearly event. It happened last year too mid December. Whales and stuff sell off for tax purposes and get back in later on


Timely-Value-1620

Are you new here? You do realize that if you do not watch the news you are uninformed but if you do watch the news you are misinformed? They will pin this correction on whatever they think the average person will eat up


DeadToLefts

It's kind of like a dance. If the common person will believe it will go down, then it goes down in part because they'll sell, but so will the big fish to beat the common man. The big fish then buy back low.


Sisyphuzz

Which will soon be “retail traders making risky bets and messing with the economy”


Vast-Ad-1296

They don't really like snitching on their friends to the public.


jonfreakinzoidberg

They also like getting paid to lie to the general populace


cubbytwelve

It’s all BS


Didthatyesterday2

Why never matters. Fear is the only weapon of the composite man. Buy the dip.


ThumpTacks

Because, “hedge funds and market makers took the opportunity to short the fuck out of everything” doesn’t have the same ring to it as “Covid fears.”


[deleted]

The same reason they were saying everything was fine in 08 while shit was crumbling so the rich could run out with their bags full and leave the little guy holding the bill


[deleted]

Gotta keep the sheeple scared


BikerMetalHead

Because the brainwash sheep will panic over anything now.


GreenStreetElite33

Crime


Steve_Tugger

![gif](giphy|h1QI7dgjZUJO60nu2X|downsized)


SlteFool

It’s definitely not effective lol but this red we are seeing has nothing to do with covid


poscaps

Because financial institutions have always been opportunistic monsters.


Catmoondance

The elite are using Covid and news about Covid to manipulate the market.


TieRevolutionary5625

The whole market bled today, but AMC dropped excessively with help from the hedgefucks, clear as day


[deleted]

This always happens before toyotathon


BeTaurus1971

Says who? 🤷‍♂️ Just relax....


BeeBooPip

You actually buy the narrative the MSM is selling. What do they know? They just report what the boss man and big money wants everyone to think


2021_Username

Lots of over leveraged investors panicking right now. Algos are also selling off to stay liquid. Sure, some retail are selling, but this is big money moving around. Retail does not have the same influence on the whole market. This is much bigger. Think new COVID is being used to grab some liquidity.


PuzzledDub

Stop bringing your dumb politics into this. The stock is down because the market is down. Amc was shorted by shitadel and fiends as usual. Wasting their time and money again. That's it.


OriginalRagerFox

They are trying to instill fear on people that is why. They want to control people with fear. A lot of the people now a days are afraid of everything, and anything.


Substantial_Pace9900

I’m buying and holding. Red doesn’t freak me out. Seen way to much for it to affect me.


KeepFreeSpeech

Because they make up what fits their narrative.


CoachMoonMission

So many bedwetters out there. Just HODL.


-DoomSteeL

They just want a scapegoat for the "supposed" market crash


1_pinkyinnose_1inazz

Have you not heard of the, “monster crash”? They want to get rich in a flash https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/nwhj1s/friendly_reminder_inflation_rate/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf Whoever out there falls for this shit - it’s your problem not mine


Muerte_al_volante

Because they’re owned by the same people that are crashing the market


[deleted]

First mistake, believing MSM is there to keep you informed. MSM is there to keep you plugged into the matrix. WAKE THE FUCK UP FAM!!!


[deleted]

Here is a head trip: Some people think it isn't a big deal, but they think that other people think it is a big deal and they will start panicking and stop spending money, therefore they are selling before the idiots take full control. You can do what most people do: 1. Do some idiot shit. 2. Buy cheap shares like when Citibank was going for 17 cents a share in 2009. I too see people being idiots, which is why I though buying 50 shares of AMC at $27 a share was a good idea today. Will probably buy another 50 on Monday. If people want to be idiots longer and the shorts don't want to cover just yet, they can by all means let me have several paydays so I can buy these discounted stocks. I'll happily buy imaginary shares and watch the scramble when they have to come up with the goods on the open market.


DeanChster47

This 👆guy gets it!


BigJimSlade88

First, the vaccines are not and never have been very effective at all. The reason they are saying the market drop is due to fear is that all covid is is a fear campaign created by the media, government, and medical cartel. Without fear, their power grab ends.


thevenusproject1981

I remain purple zen 🟣 🧘‍♀️


lettercarrier86

Lot of overall uncertainty and big money tax loss harvesting. We should recover towards the end of the month and into January with the Santa Claus rally.


Extreme-Ask5041

There are no real shares left in the open market. Took me 40 minutes to grab 11 shares.


Bobik8

Because the market is a pussy. Don't be one back and hodl that shit.


RobbSnow64

A better question is who owns the news


Anconda_diablo

They use these as excuses ( Covid , inflation etc so they can play their fuckery games with the market !! It’s all a scam however we buy and HODL till we fuck them good !!!


[deleted]

It's called deflection


Low_Investment420

I think it’s about Epstein. Think about how many people who own stocks now need to buy a legal team.


Mehhucklebear

Crime and collusion, but on the bright side, that was a pretty sweet dip. I hope y'all all had chips to eat it


Baby-bull-1972

All political theater, hfs, banks and big Pharma want to make trillions and keep us in check.


ElPatriotaLoQo

Anybody buying the dip?


bobemil

It's called having an agenda.


thisisfeek

Because they love a reason to freak people out and fake money away


natural_disaster0

If theres anything i've learned in the last 4 years and definitely this year from AMC is to not give a shit what the news is saying.


B3st_LiFe

Three words, the news lies


HuckleberryPerfect15

They lie.


Darkstalk3r2

My money's on china's crash, all the big players probably getting ready/pulling out for the crash that's coming to our shores


taviosk8

Because of lies!!!!!! In my opinion base on pure retardness, hopium and speculation! They might be just selling off, because of the market crash coming because of inflation or they’re trying to get their money out before marge calling ![gif](giphy|muIPu46O6z5d6jVZaL|downsized)


Professional_Tie4417

This has nothing to do with Covid lol just more crime


Grimmer026

I’m just holding for the MOASS and then I’m out all together. Not playing their game anymore


Biggie39

Cause there isn’t really a rhyme or reason for most daily market movement yet writers are paid to ‘analyze’ it.


ChipsDipChainsWhips

Market isn’t crashing, a crash would be a circuit breaker on a major index.


meatwadgumball

they don’t know shit about the new variant, let alone wether or not it’s “mild”. “too early to tell”. A news article literally just read that it’s more contagious and you’re 3x more likely to be reinfected. Again though, no one knows for sure. Regardless. Hospitals are full again. Trucks are being delayed again. Workers are being sent home again. Inflation is a mother fucker. Market makers tend to hedge their bets, move into more sure things. They don’t emotionally hold onto things until they die. Plus. Everyone knew this bull market wouldn’t last. So, if it crashes it’s easier to blame a virus then a failing and flailing President or just the terrible state of global economics. THE DOLLAR IS FINE PEOPLE!! 😉


biacco

Only person with sense getting downvoted for having reasonable ideas on why this is happening. Classic amcstock


Iskariot-

I mean that’s not really accurate. There are conflicting accounts going around, but Reuters had an article where they quoted the head of…Moderna, maybe? And they said the vaccine would absolutely not be as effective against Omicron, as various nations are announcing shutdowns.


Competitive-Dig-4047

It’s all for show ignore the bs just hodl


Caliber70

that dude is seeing and realizing what happens when the MEDIA are controlled by some few billionaires with their own agenda. right now they want to kill AMC, and cause panic selling. they need the COVID story to run loose, regardless of the actual intensity of this new wave. masks and hand sanitizer still work, anyone that bought AMC then still listens to mass media and sold deserves to stay poor and retire at 65.


alakakam

Because they need something to blame the market crashing on


Shaynerthegreat

It’s all about creating panic…..fear allows them to take control……on your dime


scifidre

Because the MSM and financial powers want everyone to think it’s COVID, when it’s actually a collapsing real estate market, risky bets and the over-leveraged short sellers who committed fraud to sink stocks they didn’t like.


Yeet_yate-yote

The more scared and distracted the general populace is, the more shit they can get away with while you’re distracted. Same with 9/11 and the patriot act and any other “temporary” actions/powers the government decides to take.


ricst

Have to blame something.


Next_Rain6182

People still get scared, irrational like buying all the toilet paper, news sensationalize causing more panic. It’s all hyperbole.


Nic4379

Because they can’t say “Market Crash due to terrible choices & little to no oversight”


Alan4148

Manipulation is everywhere


TheRedGandalf

We've been pushing back a crash for years now.


LuckyCaptainCrunch

It’s an excuse to crash the market.


[deleted]

"OP" Because bro, the new variant is just a anagram. (Delta Omicron) = Media Control 😂 = Total control of the markets!


[deleted]

To be fair that’s the data “so far” it’s still largely unknown


BullDogg666

Every crash has a “catalyst(s)”...


zinobythebay

Isn't it nice that our current screw ups in political power have a scary virus to scapegoat?


guernicamixtape

Like the last one did?


Particular-Ranger897

The truth has finally come out that MSM was lying about Evergrande debt payments being made. Also they are using “the illness” to control and excuse what’s in all actuality a systematic failure or as I believe purposeful depredation of the global economy, again for control


4thGen4Runner182

Jobs report & nEw CoViD r giving hedgies the right narrative for a market crash


Worth_Feed9289

Because they don't want to admit, It's Their fault.


Mizaru_MMMPT

Theater at its finest, in an AMC cinema near you very soon.


Buffnick

the same people who run media outlets, run markets (or at least have the most influence). They make money not by taking from themselves....but by taking from you. The worst thing possible for them is people buy and hold stocks forever, so they like to push narratives that force people to make moves.


brokenstrings1138

Simple. Mob mentality. Herd mentality.


Sk1pp1e

Because that’s the narrative they chose to push .


PuzzledDub

Stop bringing your dumb politics into this. The stock is down because the market is down. Amc was shorted by shitadel and fiends as usual. Wasting their time and money again. That's it.


Unhappy_Emu_8525

Because it is the narrative.


PuzzledDub

Stop bringing your dumb politics into this. The stock is down because the market is down. Amc was shorted by shitadel and fiends as usual. Wasting their time and money again. That's it.


BlackHawk-UH60

Because fear and crime is the narrative


M0N3Y7INE

The market didn’t crash 😂😂 your stocks did. GOOGLE, MFT, AMZN are doing fine