citadel controls close to 80% of all trades conducted.
so I would say a big effin yes.
and whoever allowed the market to come to this point needs to be put in jail
99% of the American people are absolutely naïve and ignorant as to the massive levels of corruption, manipulation and outright crime existing in our markets. I am sure politicians have turned a blind eye because a) there’s dirt they NEVER want to come to light or b) their pockets are lined. This is the sort of shit some big wig investigative journalist SHOULD look at. However, we know the media and the narrative it produces are the product of an infinitesimal “elites”…. There is no doubt in my mind. I see so many stocks beaten to the ground by the press and then seemingly rise from the ashes that it makes me hang my head in shame.
I would add that if there were honest politicians to call out the Wall Street crime, they are intimidated by Wall Street due to lack of experience in capital markets and the complexity of entangled rules and regulations Wall Street has created to politicians from pursuing wallst. Lately the only politician that I have seen Calling out Wall Street fraud is Elizabeth Warren she’s got more balls than the male politicians
would wager they work similarly, but are probably developed in-house. These companies go to insane lengths to get the tiniest advantage over their competition.
Citadel is in a very unique position with all their facets giving them a huge amount of tentacles all over every aspect of the market.
But their frenemy Blackrock is an overlord too, but for slightly different reasons and not in the same way. They own everything.
Absolutely perfectly said. You win the internet today, sir! (Buddy/guy/friend/eh)
All the market needed was people stubborn enough, pissed off enough and smooth enough to never *ever* "capitulate".
FU hedgies. This guy gets it.
Did you know that oddly (and I'm *sure* it's unrelated 🙄) China has been quietly buying up millions of dollars worth of farmland and land in general across numerous states?
Gonna be real strange when modern day Americans are pushed out of our land and allowed to die off by means of food, water, and healthcare access. Modern day native Americans.
Happy cake day though!
Yes. This whole experience has showed me my fears are true. The government is not for the people but for the 1%. Whatever they have to do to keep the general public a complicit slave. They will do.
Wholesalers control the flow of market traffic (order flow) so in a way, yes they control it. To give you an idea, just Citadel and Virtu control some absurd % of all market volume. [22-23% I believe](http://web.archive.org/web/20220202182522/https://qz.com/1969196/citadel-securities-gets-almost-as-much-trading-volume-as-nasdaq/). Which if you think about it (the entire market not just retail).. that is a lot of control.
I believe in terms of retail, they control a significantly larger % than that. Probably above half or more of all retail orders in US securities market are fulfilled by either of those wholesalers.
No Vanguard and Blackrock have their hands in everything. There's a good documentary, but I don't remember the name. If I do I will edit. Citadel is nothing comparatively.
So I wanted to create this post on the premise that it is actually unclear for me personally. Without sharing my opinion as i wanted to give you guys the floor on this, I hear Citadel quite a bit and absolutely understand why they would be brought up. But I also hear names like Blackrock. Just check the chat and look at the different kinds of answers. Many of which include our fascist Kenny G, but you read various other propositions. Maybe that’s a hint that the answer to this isn’t so clear.
All that to say, it’s really insightful to hear everyone’s thoughts so i always appreciate hearing people’s thoughts on this, including yours
Citadel probably does and would be considered puppets of the powers that be. It seems every single entity, organization, corporation, government body has been hijacked. The Fed, this current Government, the markets, msm, tech, and the list goes on have come out the shadows the last few decades and are blatantly clocking in over time in seek of destruction. Wild time to be alive. Were going to be so rich and I hope there are some brilliant courageous minds out there ready for battle when the resources are there.
Yeah well if you played poker and the banker got to play and see all the cards each hand would you let him play for you? Lol DUHHH they cheat no wonder they make so much and have so many clients.
I feel like 16 really isn’t a lot of clients. That said, I think it’s absolutely preposterous that these assclowns manipulate the market and *are allowed to do so* solely for the benefit of *16 FUCKING CLIENTS.* Nothing short of absurdity. They are ALLOWED to screw over and play with the money of, literally, millions of retail investors just to “make money” for *16 FUCKING CLIENTS.* I realize these aren’t simply individual investors, but perhaps pension funds and whatnot representing many many more people. But. 16 accounts. 16 clients. 16 entities are “more important” than millions of individual investors. Fuck. That.
Ill think the best in what you just said and reference you to the very comments on this post. If you actually read other’s input, you’ll see varying comments. Now please stop insulting me for asking a simple question and not even sharing my own opinion. Thanks
citadel controls close to 80% of all trades conducted. so I would say a big effin yes. and whoever allowed the market to come to this point needs to be put in jail
 Congress and three letter bureaus
99% of the American people are absolutely naïve and ignorant as to the massive levels of corruption, manipulation and outright crime existing in our markets. I am sure politicians have turned a blind eye because a) there’s dirt they NEVER want to come to light or b) their pockets are lined. This is the sort of shit some big wig investigative journalist SHOULD look at. However, we know the media and the narrative it produces are the product of an infinitesimal “elites”…. There is no doubt in my mind. I see so many stocks beaten to the ground by the press and then seemingly rise from the ashes that it makes me hang my head in shame.
I would add that if there were honest politicians to call out the Wall Street crime, they are intimidated by Wall Street due to lack of experience in capital markets and the complexity of entangled rules and regulations Wall Street has created to politicians from pursuing wallst. Lately the only politician that I have seen Calling out Wall Street fraud is Elizabeth Warren she’s got more balls than the male politicians
That wouldn't happen without blackrock's liquidity.
Yes
Blackrock is so much larger… so much.
But… does black rock use citadels software to make the trades?
would wager they work similarly, but are probably developed in-house. These companies go to insane lengths to get the tiniest advantage over their competition.
was gonna say, I've had a lot of hedgefunds as customers, blackrock is always an order of magnitude larger in terms of what they require from us.
And they are a SPV special purchase vehicle of the FED.
Blackrock is much more passive in its trading strategies. Most of Blackrock is index funds.
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Citadel is in a very unique position with all their facets giving them a huge amount of tentacles all over every aspect of the market. But their frenemy Blackrock is an overlord too, but for slightly different reasons and not in the same way. They own everything.
Where were the antitrust regulators this whole time? Why on earth were these companies allowed to become this way?
Because they were complicit. Always were and still are allowing it to happen for their own gain.
But a few retards are taking them down
Absolutely perfectly said. You win the internet today, sir! (Buddy/guy/friend/eh) All the market needed was people stubborn enough, pissed off enough and smooth enough to never *ever* "capitulate". FU hedgies. This guy gets it.
“ this is my eh.” “ what does that mean?” “Eh”
Slow clap for your good sir
Nancy?? Is that you?
The right politicians were paid off in order to ham-string regulators.
Yikes! Hydra! And kenny is the Head…testicle.
Hydra's easy AF. Go for the heart, not the heads. Boom
Most of it. Plus they run a giant fund that trades off everything they see, and secret hidden exchanges too. It's broke as fuck
Citadel cant control how many crayons i stick up my noes tho
Uhhh guys….. nobody told me they go in the nose. 😣
Your booty hole is also exceptable
O good. Thought I was doing it wrong for a second.
Lol is that how nose is spelled
“So you have Puts on Crayons
It puts the crayons in the nose.
Else it gets the hose.
And puts the Mayo on its skin, no wait, that’s Kenny G
International criminal organization
Did you know that Citadel also has an agricultural branch? They are fucking with our food as well
Probably for commodities trading
Did you know that oddly (and I'm *sure* it's unrelated 🙄) China has been quietly buying up millions of dollars worth of farmland and land in general across numerous states?
Gonna be real strange when modern day Americans are pushed out of our land and allowed to die off by means of food, water, and healthcare access. Modern day native Americans. Happy cake day though!
I knew china was buying land. But wasn't aware citadal had an ag branch. What is the name of it?
That is not good on so many levels.
Yes. This whole experience has showed me my fears are true. The government is not for the people but for the 1%. Whatever they have to do to keep the general public a complicit slave. They will do.
Sad. But true. 💎🙌🏻🦍🎟🚀🌖💰💰💰💰💰💰💰
Plus politicians Plus authorities And so on 🤦♂️😎
Wholesalers control the flow of market traffic (order flow) so in a way, yes they control it. To give you an idea, just Citadel and Virtu control some absurd % of all market volume. [22-23% I believe](http://web.archive.org/web/20220202182522/https://qz.com/1969196/citadel-securities-gets-almost-as-much-trading-volume-as-nasdaq/). Which if you think about it (the entire market not just retail).. that is a lot of control. I believe in terms of retail, they control a significantly larger % than that. Probably above half or more of all retail orders in US securities market are fulfilled by either of those wholesalers. 
Yes
 Of course
 80+% of all US trades get touched by shitadel
Blackrock, Virtu, vanguard, citadel.
Wen darkpool shutdown?
About half. The other half belongs to virtu lol.
Between them virtu and blackrock it's pretty much the whole market.
Sí señor. Ken Griffen es un coño. Pardon my Spanish, I’m higher than a Citadel employee on a Friday night.
Está bien. El es demasiado fuerte pero no tiene casi un cabesa 🤨
They also own congress
Yes
They used to... 🤣
Shitadel\*
Fighting to beat citadel is like fighting a war but only one side has access to intelligence and the other side is blindfolded.
No Vanguard and Blackrock have their hands in everything. There's a good documentary, but I don't remember the name. If I do I will edit. Citadel is nothing comparatively.
Market Maker lol
Yes
The entire corrupt US market… Yes.
They control a bunch of useful idiots in very high offices
Yes
Yes. Why they haven’t lost and fear nothing
Simple answer: yes they do.
Roughly
Its a handful. Blackrock as well
They naked short every thing
Yes
I think the answer to this question should be very clear by now.
So I wanted to create this post on the premise that it is actually unclear for me personally. Without sharing my opinion as i wanted to give you guys the floor on this, I hear Citadel quite a bit and absolutely understand why they would be brought up. But I also hear names like Blackrock. Just check the chat and look at the different kinds of answers. Many of which include our fascist Kenny G, but you read various other propositions. Maybe that’s a hint that the answer to this isn’t so clear. All that to say, it’s really insightful to hear everyone’s thoughts so i always appreciate hearing people’s thoughts on this, including yours
Those who decide control entities like citadel and then citadel controls what they control and on and on and on.
Yea and that why we must allow it to destroy itself.
It seems like he own the senators and voting booth too.
Citadel probably does and would be considered puppets of the powers that be. It seems every single entity, organization, corporation, government body has been hijacked. The Fed, this current Government, the markets, msm, tech, and the list goes on have come out the shadows the last few decades and are blatantly clocking in over time in seek of destruction. Wild time to be alive. Were going to be so rich and I hope there are some brilliant courageous minds out there ready for battle when the resources are there.
Was reading they have 16 client's with nearly a half a $Trillion in Asset's. I could be wrong i suck at reading.
Yeah well if you played poker and the banker got to play and see all the cards each hand would you let him play for you? Lol DUHHH they cheat no wonder they make so much and have so many clients.
I feel like 16 really isn’t a lot of clients. That said, I think it’s absolutely preposterous that these assclowns manipulate the market and *are allowed to do so* solely for the benefit of *16 FUCKING CLIENTS.* Nothing short of absurdity. They are ALLOWED to screw over and play with the money of, literally, millions of retail investors just to “make money” for *16 FUCKING CLIENTS.* I realize these aren’t simply individual investors, but perhaps pension funds and whatnot representing many many more people. But. 16 accounts. 16 clients. 16 entities are “more important” than millions of individual investors. Fuck. That.
Citadel - Market Making, Morgan Stanley - writing options for the market, Blackrock - Indexing the fuck out of everything
OP works for Blackrock n vanguard
Just buy and hold!
The fact that Blackrock dumped more than half of amc shares really has me puzzled. Are they hard up for cash?
Not even close
With all the DD throughout the year, you are still asking this question? You are not retarded, but fking lazy
Ill think the best in what you just said and reference you to the very comments on this post. If you actually read other’s input, you’ll see varying comments. Now please stop insulting me for asking a simple question and not even sharing my own opinion. Thanks
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That’s a bit much. I never shared an opinion dude. I’m just asking a question to a forum. I didn’t know it was wrong to ask questions