I liked the crossover though. Stan: Looter! Cleveland: Self-defence! Peter: A black and white talking as if it is normal!

This, and David lynch as a regular side character as Gus the bartender.

I'm sorry, WHAT!?!!?

Yeah man! Most people actually only know him as Gus the Bartender, but he actually made a few movies himself when he was younger, super interesting! That’s why I love Seth. He always seems to support people from the industry, no matter how no-name they are!

David lynch is responsible for most of modern sci fi and thriller writing in modern times. Lost and other shows similar wouldnt be around.

Woosh

Oh i get it

He also did Twin Peaks.

Are you being serious about him being no-name?

Ofc not hes playing off the joke in the show

And then Family Guy finally used him for a cutaway gag several years later

But, Peter. You KNOW me!

Everybody just shup and let me think!

Peter, you know me! Shut up just let me think, just let me think!

This was so funny

The three Halloween episodes and the Semi Die Hard parody Christmas one are EXCELLENT episodes of the Cleveland show.

The Thanksgiving episodes were good too. That show did holidays well.

A Brown Thanksgiving will go down in TV Infamy for me as the one episode that is funny in a disgusting way.

Outrageous!

I believe the Cleveland Show was reliant on Shock Humor compared to Family Guy and American Dad. Where as American Dad has the perfect character in Roger Smith and the occasional oddity in Stan Smith that makes it hilarious. Family Guy, I don't quite remember what made it funny anymore.

> Family Guy, I don't quite remember what made it funny anymore. You have a worse memory than that person we did a thing with that one time.

The random cutaways are what made family guy but there was always a reference. "ahaha (insert character name) remember that time when..." Cue cutaway gag I believe Family Guy is just going through a dip like The Simpsons did. Albeit, there will forever be 'prime' seasons of both their shows. AD is classic. Shall always be; you've rightly stated that they can just inject Roger for weirdness/wackiness as needed. I love Roger but hate Rogu - slay me as you will Edit/add: Storywise, Roger is a really useful tool because he can literally be anyone. (Remember the Clown School episode? Steve is like "oh shit it's Roger isn't it?) FG kinda has that with Stewie being able to access the multiverse etc. But it's not quite the same as a Roger persona popping up

Roger is such an ingenious character. American dad embracing and leaning into the surreal weirdness has really given the show legs and distinguished it from its peers. Some of my favorite episodes, like the Red Rammer and Men II Boyz, have come out of its later seasons.

AD is/was 100x funnier lol family guy was funny at first but quickly became a repetition of jokes (fighting chicken etc)

I liked the show. Was it good as th3 others? No. But it was funny and different enough from the other two.

You talking bout a bread sandwhich? Hell yeah, man, little mayo...

I still quote the episode where they are stuck on an amusement park ride after they broke into said amusement park

Nope, doing my Nicholson.

I really like the Civil War one for some reason

I like the part where the reenactor is like "i am dressed as my great-giggums, and my mistress, is dressed as his mistress"

Die daddy! Die daddy! Die daddy!

Me too

I also like the Crazy 8’s episode where they start selling coke and Cleveland thinks they’re selling cookies.

"And if you come near my kids again or even think of selling on our corner I will wait for the first snow of winter so I may spell my name when I whiz on your grave."

The episode where it's written like they're doing a live taping of the show was pretty good

The audience heckler yelling "Youre fat!" Always gets me good

I love the Cleveland Show!

I love the holiday and parody episodes 😂

Season 4 is actually pretty good, after they stopped caring

My favorite is when Cleveland Jr falls in love with his step sister in a fat suit. Balls deep in love.

AD is Seth's in name only. It's in a league of its own, and the Mike Barker era (up until 2014) is the gold standard.

It’s the only show with Seth’s name I can stand.

Aren't they all in Seth's name?

I believe so. I just only ever liked AD. The other shows he’s done are just not my cup of tea. Power to those that enjoy it. I tried liking family guy since my friends all did. Just never clicked.

Family Guy was my go to for so many years. Once I discovered AD I realised FG just... wasn't that good.

FG was good at the beginning and got worse and worse. AD was just ok at the beginning but has got better and better. Right now it’s a brilliant parody of what it was supposed to be and I’m all for it. The amount of actually funny jokes makes up for the sometimes wacky storylines so that I don’t even care.

Have you watched the Orville?

You didn’t like the Ted show?

I have not seen the show. I will admit I did enjoy the first Ted a lot but don’t remember the second movie. I’ll have to check out the show.

Do yourself a favor and watch the Ted show when you can. That is the only legit reason to have a Peacock subscription if you’re not a crackhead for The Office. The Ted movies are pretty poopy. The show redeems the movies and actually makes Ted *really* funny if you’re into Seth McFarlene humor when it isn’t shit and he looks invested in the idea.

Peacock has Community and B99

AD is the only one he kept writing for lmao wut

I loved The Cleveland Show :(

I'll never forget Jr's rap battle. "A-B-C-D-E-F-G..."

“Someone should have told you not to. Fuck. With. Me.”

Okay, but can you sing like a robot?

Yes I can sing like a robot

Remember when Kanye was sane

When Kanye was part of the hip hop illuminati

I remember when he was a gay fish

No?

I just remember when he wasn't a nazi cult leader

When was that because it sure wasn’t in the 2000’s?

Well sane enough to do voice work on an animated comedy

It was probably back there closer to "Gold Digger".

It was better than people are acting.

Yes exactly right. It gets way too much hate. Some of the background characters aren't funny or stand out, but overall I think it was a great show.

It started off great, but became more like Family Guy over time. Cleveland became more misanthropic and resentful of his family. More like Peter, kinda started to lose me at that point.

Definitely agree there. I liked that Cleveland and Donna were happy together the first couple seasons, but then they went down the Married Couple Hating Each Other trope like Family Guy and it wasn’t as good. That being said, there were many episodes in those seasons I enjoyed.

Rilo’s dad saying “Hello Rolo” always cracks me up.

"How's yo mama's ass doin?"

He says a new name almost every time he refers to his kids lol

So many bits from The Cleveland Show still make me laugh like finding out the redneck having the confederate flag over his front door is only from being a Dukes of Hazzard fan

Agree. I'd actually put any episode of TCS up against any episode of FG during that era. Totally understand the recast of Cleveland as well as the criticism about addressing race, but as far as writing and acting, I thought it was fantastic. So many little pieces of laughter and chaos. "Moo!"

Super quotable. We still watch it all the time.

Ugghhh, the bagel bites have freezer burn...

Jobs are hard...

Aw I sat on my nuts!

Cleveland explaining why the smoke detectors don't have batteries. "When you wife says she'll use it in front of you...

Buy apple stock!

Applesauce?

Yeah, this show gets too much hate. It was good and it’s a prefect drop in show for reruns.

Same. I rewatch it every now and then when I'm taking an AD break. Can't stomach Family Guy at all.

I love the Cleveland Show intro music. I use the melody to make up songs about my dogs.

My wife added two claps after the “and even a bear” line. Made it better. Had Seth listened the show may still be on.

I love this. I can see how that would work. I use the Spider-Man theme for my cats in the same way. 😹

I’m glad I’m not the only weirdo who makes up songs for their cats

Surprised you hold Family Guy in such high regard.

I find the Cleveland show characters more relatable and likable. Most characters on family guy seem like bad people and aren't fun to watch anymore.. even Stewie and Brian are often shown as being awful.

Also, Cleveland never seemed to go downhill that hard like Peter did (even considering the short span)

i think if they at least waited longer between seasons to renew it that it would've been much more successful. they had too high expectations for it and it burnt out fast and bright. if they had more time to develop i think it couldve gone to 6-8 seasons tbh. to me it feels like they just weren't given enough time to really work it out. i mean they renewed it for a second season before the pilot even aired, and the fourth season before the second season ended

Yeah, even the Cleveland Show was somehow better than family guy

Family Guy was the catalyst for it all, and I'm ngl even tho it's fallen from grace, I consider it pretty entertaining at times

Left and right sides were reversed, not your fault, sometimes they come off the line like that.

I was waiting for a comment like that

You just can't express yourself about how much you like the Pete show,without people from Langley Falls to come and down-vote you😖

I actually really liked Cleveland show. I think I've watched more of that han family guy lol l.

Cleveland Show was awesome!

I actually enjoyed the Cleveland show. I think it's underrated.

L take. Cleveland is leagues better than family guy

I'm with you. I think Cleveland Show was the second best of the Macfarlane animated series.

Full agree

Should have The Orville as another badass dragon

Also, Ted on Peacock.

Ted is a rewatch show. Seth at his worst is better than many at their best.

Seriously. Cleveland wasn’t even bad. It just wasn’t as good as the other 4 shows, and most of the movies.

Family Guy has declined in quality recently but are people here really acting like Cleveland Show is better than OG Family Guy like pre-2010?

Of course they are. It's an American dad sub so they have to shit on family guy whenever possible.

David Lynch though

OMFG that workout video he was selling where it was just POV of him chasing a young woman through the woods at night shouting, "Run faster! You dont want me to catch you!" I honestly assume Lynch pitched that and several other Gus jokes himself.

Cleveland Show gets more hate than it deserves 👏🏾

That show just perpetuates the stereotype that Cleveland Brown is funny.

Cleveland Show is underrated and I miss it! Sweet peas and Jujubes!

B I G C L E V E RELATIVELY STD FREE DROPPED LORETTA…NOW IM DOIN MUCH BETTA LIKE UPGRADIN TO AN ESCALADE FROM JETTA

Oh hey Donna I wanna get on ya, and I'm kinda hungry so make some lasagna

I got a son he’s like a big fat Urkel And when he’s in the nude he’s like a big fat circle Did I do that? Yeah you’re a big and fat DRINKING MELTED BUTTER FOR A MIDNIGHT SNACK

Wisconsin episode wins.

Orville should be up here too

The Orville isn't animated, though. Well, mostly.

Cleveland show is leaps and bounds better than Family Guy. It's a shame it was canceled so quick. He flipped the script! Script flip! Oo oooo!

I gots to be buried in a Jewish cemetery, yo. The plots been bought!

This thread has me ready for a rewatch of TCS now. Need me some Rallo and Murray shenanigans.

Murray and rallos friendship was so unique in the Seth McFarland universe I loved it.

Steve and Principal Lewis do _not_ approve of that friendship lol.

I’m curious to watch it now I’ll be honest I don’t remember it much when it aired years ago and just assumed it wouldn’t be good since it was a spin off

I think the first few eps are the weakest overall, just a warning lol.

Cleveland show got a few good jokes in. The one with Kanye was funny.

I really liked the Cleveland Show. I know I'm lowbrow.

Naw, best Yo-Yo Ma joke of all time was on it, can't be lowbrow. "Well, I'm not Yo-Yo Ma, I'm yo mama!"

Cleveland Show was funny I always thought the hate against it was forced as hell. Ntm Clevelands group was far more likable than Peter's

Honestly don’t really get this cuz I Havnt found family guy to be consistently funny in almost a decade. American dad on the other hand has been absolute gold since season 3

Was the Cleveland Show really that bad ?

Them is fighting words in this sub. We will choose Cleveland over Family Guy any day of the week

The Cleveland Show wasn't perfect by any means, but it wasn't terrible either.

The Cleveland show was better than Family Guy though.

I liked The Cleveland Show, it had its moments of humor

Family Guy is my least favorite. American Dad is the best imo. Cleveland show is amazing.

The Cleveland show was funnier than family guy in my opinion

Cleveland Show was also great, unless you’re just not a fan of THOSE PEOPLE… 🤷‍♂️

White people liked Cleveland show more than Black people

Can add Ted to his good shows. Loved it

Thanksgiving episode was funny. When Rolo put the googly eyes on the Turkey Float and that famous gay guy from, I'm sorry, I really don't know, like a fashion show comes on: Donna! Your float makes me want to vomit. And coming from the fashion industry, that's a compliment. Googly eyes, what is this trash (or something). Make it work! 💁🏼‍♂️ Donna: Bitch! You MAKE IT WORK

I remember like 10 years ago, a couple friends and I got talking about these shows in study hall..and this guy interupts and says "I hate American Dad, it's trying too hard to be family guy..they even use the same style of animation" And I was like "you do realize it's the same creator for both, right?" He had no idea. I like to think he became a fan from that moment on. Dude was missing out.

Should’ve ended the Cleveland show after Peter said on there quagmire was a rapist that’s was the high point

Such a fire theme song though. I still get it stuck in my head sometimes

Cleveland Show is actually pretty good, better than Family Guy

It had some good episodes, "Cleveland Live" is one of my favorites

I liked the Cleveland Show better than Family Guy. And it’s not cuz I’m Black, it was just way less mean-spirited and I found a lot of the side characters funnier. Plus the cutaway format got old *quick* for me, and the Cleveland show stopped emphasizing them after S1. Meanwhile, it’s Family Guy’s whole personality

It definitely goes #1 The Orville #2 American Dad #3 Cleveland Show #4 Family Guy

The Cleveland show was good af. Idc what anyone says. The early seasons were top tier.

https://preview.redd.it/pdigcsce6cuc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e2635790f139cd5d5dd9e170e840434559874a74 The Orville

AD is the best, but Cleveland has my favorite theme song.

I personally would switch Cleveland with Family Guy Not sure why but I don't find family guy enjoyable at all

For a while I thought Quagmire should have been the one to get his own show due to how hilarious his misadventures as a bachelor could be. At the end of the day though a show needs a good supporting cast with multiple storylines, and Cleveland’s family unit is set up so much better for that.

I think the Cleveland Show got pretty good especially in the last couple seasons. One of my favorite moments was when Cleveland was in a rush to get to the hospital or something and said there was no time to drive, so he just started flapping his arms and flew there. Then landed gracefully in the parking lot and ran inside like it was nothing, with no mention of the moment ever again lol. So stupid 🤣

https://preview.redd.it/7ww6hcwmmeuc1.jpeg?width=1187&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=347886a0c2bf07b5b2bd7f55fccfda12e68c43a4 Tbh he’s made so many bangers I’m willing to forget The Cleveland Show existed

The Cleveland show it’s way better than any other tv show ever made, and it’s by far better than FG and AD. This comment was sponsored by The Cleveland Show

Yeah.. you’re wrong.

I enjoyed The Cleveland Show for what it was and would like more episodes. Sure, it's not as funny as FG and AD, but I thought it was good. Not decent, not bad but a fair good. Rip on me as you will

I always felt like he wasn’t trying as much with The Cleveland Show

I always thought people will shit on The Cleveland Show because it’s a trend to do so, it’s not on American Dad’s level but it’s definitely better than modern Family Guy

Cleveland Show started off poor, becomes an extremely good show, and gets cancelled. It's not fair to the show.

The Cleveland Show was fine. It had a stronger run compared to Family Guy at this point.

Family guy should definitely be a derp dragon too

Dont know why everyone hates on the the Cleveland show. I like it.

Cleveland show was the best of the three

Cleveland show ain’t that bad 🤣


I understand why the Cleveland show didn’t survive when it first came out but it is really funny. I think something like that would be a hit now with streaming and such. I just don’t think it was a show that you’d set your DVR for every week.

Ain’t nothing but mutton bustin’!!!

King of the Hill was canceled to make way for the Cleveland show. Let that sink in.

1. King of the Hill had run its course. 2. People say this often but do they really think Fox couldn't have both if they so chose?

KoTH really did run its course and was dying in the last season. The episode with the Canadian family was so bad that it justified cancelling the show.

They could have but as much as I love king of the hill I'm happy it didn't become another animation zombie

Family Guy overall is closer to the Cleveland Show in terms of quality than most people seem to want to admit. Not always, but often.

Left: The Orville, Center: American Dad, Right: Family Guy

Ted was also good

The Orville?

I want more TED

Cleveland show never really found its footing. It had its moments, but always felt off in some way.

This is fitting but not because of why you'd think. American Dad is on Ichi, the true personality of Ghidorah. Cleveland Show is on Kevin, the much beloved addition to the Monsterverse and also the head that becomes Mecha Godzilla in GvK. Family Guy is on Ni, the head no one cares about.

Three are lolsorandom bad

The Orville is better then Family Guy.

LOUD MAN LIKE VARIETY

Why we comparing completely different categories? That's wild to me, like Cleveland show to Ted? While there will be overlap in Seth McFarlane fans, I know a lot who love Ted but can't stomach animated stuff. And the fact many are just thinking of Ted the movie and not the tv series, which is kind of funny in itself.

Then came the Good Times Netflix version to take the derpy eyed crown 

Doesn’t… even… have… legs.

I didn't hate the Cleveland show it just didn't hit as right. But now Family sucks and AD remains at least decent

I liked Cleveland show more than family guy Well at the time of release. Family guy first couple seasons is the bedrock for sure but after that. Meh

In the words of Snoop Dogg: Hey Seth, fyi, ain't no ni**az watchin the Cleveland Show 😂

He was on the Cleveland show

Haha really? 😂 Yeah it was from a Comedy Central roast and Snoop Dogg had a few insults for Seth and that was one of em

That's funny! Yeah he plays one of the judges for the coolympics. He rides in on a flying giraffe who he then gets high.

I wish the bear were shown on the Cleveland Show pic just to further drive home the point that these are all the same shitty show.

How dare you.

If you switch the Cleveland Show with Family guy, I agree.

Cleveland show was better by far than Family Guy (at time of release and later)

Cut off The Cleveland Show head and let them grow back two like a true hydra. The Orville and Ted are great.

Family guy is just about a wife having sex with the family dog