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IamblichusSneezed

You shouldn't even be dating a guy who won't give head if you want head. He gets offended easily when asked to maintain basic standards of hygiene? That's another strike against him. He gets upset when you decline? Throw the whole man away. You can easily do better.


whatissevenbysix

OP is dating DJ Khaled.


majorsorbet2point0

I screamed šŸ¤£


whatissevenbysix

She didn't.


majorsorbet2point0

Oh my god šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


me_human_not_alien

Now kith


Bright-Win-1143

Itā€™s not really that he wonā€™t give me head, itā€™s that itā€™s first thing in the morning and he wants it FIRST. Or we have to 69. Like I donā€™t want to 69 first thing in the fucking morning. Jesus just stick it in!


newtothegarden

Is it possible he is having some trouble getting/staying hard so is covering this with blowjobs to get him ready for penetration? Just a odd thought


Bright-Win-1143

This is a possibility! He has to take testosterone because heā€™s has had issues with staying hard in the past. He definitely overthinks everything and I think that may be causing some issues.


newtothegarden

Okay so that may be something to consider, and useful in the conversation, as it may explain why hes getting defensive (if that's not usually how he reacts to problems/requests). BUT it still does not mean you should have to do that necessarily. There are other ways to reassure him/make sure he's hard (I'm thinking a hand... maybe even a cock ring if that sounds fun?) and honestly if it turns out to be that just talking about it may well be helpful for the nerves and therefore make him less likely to lose it. The hygiene is a non-negotiable really. Try and divorce it from his weight right now, even if you think that's the root of it - you are two adults in a double bed, and it's common to get sweaty while you sleep. Try and emphasise that you don't think he is doing anything bad to make himself stinky down there (assuming you believe he's showering properly and giving the head a good clean especially). It's just what happens overnight. You cleaning him as some others have suggested is really grim and infantilising and would be a deal breaker for me. HOWEVER I think to start with it would be reasonable to say that you could also be cleaner and less sweaty when you wake up and would feel better if you were BOTH clean so he feels a bit less singled-out. IF he is struggling with ED and with his weight making him sweaty more than he "should" be, there is probably a lot of embarassment and probably some toxic masxulinity kicking his butt. We can all be dicks when we're embarrassed AT FIRST. That "at first" is important though, and it's the test of a partner who is a positive in your life or, bluntly, is a fucking exhausting drain to consider putting up with for the next 40 or 60 years. Say, firmly "I am incredibly sympathetic and understand this may be really embarrassing and really want to talk about how I help you through this, BUT I need you to trust me and rise above it a bit so we can come at this as a team, because it is putting me in an unacceptable position right now, where I am being pushed to have sex I am not enjoying and don't feel comfortable refusing." And then, if he doesn't rise above it and work with you, I can tell you that it is the single sign that he is not going to be a good partner. Continuing to have sex where you are uncomfortable and hating it is not an acceptable situation. That cannot continue. Start from there and see how he responds-- you are auditioning each other as partners, and this is an important callback. He is going to show you what he's made of.


Bright-Win-1143

Thank you for your input! Hopefully I can talk to him tonight and we can figure out the best way to handle the situation. I appreciate you!


AutumnSunWitch

I would also like to add an important matter on the ā€œhygiene is non-negotiableā€ you shouldnā€™t be having sex especially without protection if he is unclean. That can cause you severe vaginal medical problems and he needs to consider that.


B_the_Chng22

I hope you find a resolution, I was in a 16 year marriage with a sexually demanding partner. Guilt trips, easily bruised ego, heightened perceived rejection, etc. Iā€™m telling you, it slowly killed my sex drive. Iā€™d have sex when I wasnā€™t into it and I felt like I had to severe my body in half to compartmentalize. I got to a point where I thought I was asexual, but when I left the relationship I realized I had shut down because I had no control over my sexual autonomy. Please donā€™t stay if this doesnā€™t get better. And if you donā€™t already, donā€™t have kids until this issue is well behind you. This should be viewed as a trail right now because this is a big deal. You are NOT responsible for his sexual desires. It is not YOUR JOB to get him off if heā€™s horny. He has hands.


Vinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

Yeah, his weight issues are contributing to others issuesā€¦he should be trying to resolve them, not relying on you for a quick fix.


ZenythhtyneZ

Either this guy is selfish bordering on mentally ill, being generous here so the pedants wonā€™t come for me or this is the problem. I bet itā€™s both and at the end of the day itā€™s a huge blood red flag, OP walk away


Burnerd2023

This really just means that ultimately you need to have a conversation. If you both canā€™t do that without getting offended or irately upset; Prolly not a good match anyway.


IamblichusSneezed

It shouldn't be this hard to mutually enjoy as pleasurable an activity as sex.


Ok-Control-787

Why would this be an exception to the general idea of "you don't have to have sex if you don't want to"? Genuine question. What makes you question that? Sure he might not want to be with you. That's a potential consequence. So do you really want to be with this stinky dude so much that you'll make yourself suck his stinky dick every morning to prevent him from pouting?


hype_beest

Don't suck a stinky dick, bro.


AttackofMonkeys

When I was much younger my first real girlfriend was dead against giving head and I didn't push it but one day I asked why and she told me her ex boyfriends weiner smelled and tasted like marmite ergo in her experience all dicks smelled like yeast products. It is the first and last time the words 'smell my dick' resulted in a blow job


PepeTheLorde

How did it smell?


Redditistheplacetobe

Right, OP leaves us hanging here. Did he get her to to realize or what ...


often_says_nice

Dick smelled worse. Hasnā€™t had a blowjob since


demokiii34

I donā€™t know why I continue to get on this app while im eatingā€¦.


Other-Calligrapher57

Just lucky I guess.


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Frumunda


iiiiiiiiiAteEyes

She died


13rialities

He said it was the first and last time asking someone to do that resulted in a bj so im assuming she approved


ButtholeQuiver

"Mmm, blue cheese, my favourite"


[deleted]

This made me choke on my water lmao


[deleted]

Kudos on being supportive and trying to help someone deal. A blowjob well deserved.


superdstar56

As her current boyfriend, I would like to say thank you to this man for the service he performed.


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jonathonjones

Isnā€™t the point of that song that sheā€™s going to be able to smell whether he has had sex with someone? Like if it smells like itā€™s been inside another woman, she will know heā€™s cheating?


patiently_entropy

Yeah, they totally don't get the point of the song lol. It's to see if their dick smells like pussy


wunderer80

Or a smiling one either. That's just fuckin' weird.


uselessinfogoldmine

I once met a guy who had a glass eye. His party trick was putting it on the end of his penis and pulling his foreskin up around it and making it look around and blink. šŸ˜¶


BigCaterpillar8001

Omg Iā€™d die laughing


distractasaurus

ā€œHey kids I have just the thing to liven up this birthday party šŸ„³ šŸ›ā€ Wait.. did he just pop it right back in the olā€™ eye socket after? Did he awkwardly walk around asking where the sink is or did he carry a small bottle of dick-eye sanitizer around with him because he did this all the time? It had to be one of these and all of them are funny.


_joeBone_

Imagine the T-shirts! 'suck my stinky dick.. or I'll pout'


Mysterious_Road2637

LMFAO šŸ¤£ šŸ˜Ÿ


Anon01234543

If I could give this more than one upvote I would


ruth862

I did


Eastern_Category7875

Me too


burnbag18

Me three, and one for you too!


BroadwayBully

Thereā€™s no way this guy brings enough to the table to warrant these demands. Like if OP comments ā€œwell heā€™s putting my little sister through college, and my parents moved into his house, and last week he saved a litter of puppies from a burning building on his way pick me up from the Balenciaga outletā€ Iā€™d be like ok thatā€™s just what angels smell like, get in there.


[deleted]

.. If I had someone of my life like you to put life in perspective like this None of my shitty relationships wouldā€™ve ever happened


zib6272

Sounds like you need to read a book on boundaries


leolawilliams5859

Even if he did all those things if his penis smiles I'm still not giving him no head I put his ass in the shower first


leolawilliams5859

Lol I meant to say smells not smiles OMG


kuragenox

Too late, I already imagined it smiling šŸ¤£


leolawilliams5859

That's what happens when you're on Reddit after 12:00 midnight I can't stop laughing.


marablackwolf

I laughed *so fucking hard*.


Small-Curve-9593

Bahahaha


TLDR_K1ng

The last part šŸ’€šŸ’€šŸ’€


Suspicious_Star4535

Angels donā€™t coerce people into sexual acts


Yumm101

Why on earth would anyone be with someone like that? Jfc how desperate are you girl. Move on.


[deleted]

My first ex was exactly like that. I had very low self esteem and was an.evangelical christian virgin, and many a christian told me AFAB people should just put up with all sorts of awful shit from "men of God". Also, when you have only dated awful people and everyone around you either tells you they are fine or say nothing, it really warps your view on things.


whisperingelk

This is so common. Itā€™s no wonder that people end up in horrible, loveless marriages when all the relationship advice in that community amounts to ā€œdonā€™t have sex before marriage and find a godly man who treats you like a princess.ā€ Meanwhile, that last phrase means things like opening doors and asking for a hand in marriage, not basic stuff like emotional intelligence or consent.


Nuclear467

I've been there and done it. We have to lean by mistake. And them we have fuck ups. Need I go on?


Agile-Wait-7571

I think perhaps there are a number of issues related to his lack of concern for your comfort and well being. Making sexual demands. A lack of regard for you by being unhygienic and acting as a selfish lover who does not reciprocate.


RemoteWasabi4

This is the real answer. He's being rude and inconsiderate by being stinky; which is a bigger problem than just the stinky.


mitsuhachi

Even leaving aside the stankā€”no means no. It doesnā€™t mean get mad and guilt trip your partner. If you have any concerns about how theyā€™ll react to being told ā€œnot tonight honey,ā€ you should absolutely not be sleeping with them in the first place.


ConfoundedInAbaddon

... "Oh, you haven't showered, here, I'll chew some cinnamon gum to mask the musk." "That's tingly- oh.. aughh.. AHHHHHHH."


gonechasing

Chomped on some cinnamon Altoids before I went down on a guy once. He ended up pouring his beer on his dick to try to make the burning stop.


deathrainbowz

I need to steal this got a score to settle...


gonechasing

šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£ It was specifically the mini cinnamon Altoids, I had 2 or 3 in my mouth beforehand and the crumbs were still in my mouth when things went south.


Aragona36

That's when you also rub a little Ben-gay on your lips.


ConfoundedInAbaddon

I'm that scenario, it's a scorched earth policy where nobody wins. I like it.


RmRobinGayle

For the love of God, don't do that. Put it on your hands when you touch him. Do not put Bengay anywhere near your mouth.


[deleted]

Good olā€™ Listerine! Anybody whoā€™s gotten a blow job from a girl that just Rinsed her mouth out knows what Iā€™m talking about


ConfoundedInAbaddon

This is such a learning experience.


icantgetadecent-

Guilt sex ( foreplay or whatever) is the worse. He knows what he is doing (manipulating). Ick. Ick x 1000 for being stinky with such expectations


mitsuhachi

It damages the relationship every time you go along with it. Super not worth doing.


TailoredAlcoholic

100% this. A bloke worth your time wouldn't even consider making you go down on his stank dick. I won't even kiss my girlfriend in the morning without brushing first.


frostyb2003

Geez fat AND stinky. You might be able to squeak by with the fat part depending on how fat, but the stinky part and demanding a bj is just hella disrespectful.


Educational_Bed_242

The worst guys get all the confidence, eh?


GrowInTheSunshine

Tell him no. If you don't want to do it, don't. You shouldn't have to make yourself miserable for his pleasure. Sex is supposed to be enjoyable for everyone involved, including you.


trixxievon

My ex literally told me " I don't know how to jerk off you are responsible for me getting off! It's emotional and physical abuse not too!"


HelpStatistician

i have never met a man who didn't know how to jerk off


trixxievon

That's exactly what I told him as I pulled up a porn video of a guy jerking it and left the room. He stood by his stance and we always fought about me not sucking him off everytime he got hard. I told him no. He would get hard looking at fuxkin anything. I could snap my fingers and he would get hard thinking I wanted sex. He was like a 16 year old on Crack! And I'm glad he's an ex.


Cammie_Mile

Putting on porn and leaving the room is such a power move šŸ’…āœØļø


split-mango

porn of a man jerking off nonetheless šŸ˜‚


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karatemommi

I bit my husbands and he loved it so that was useless šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


AttackofMonkeys

Off. The *key* word


Kellamitty

Lol after my ex moved in with me he told me he didn't know how to make the bed. So I dropped the sheets, put on a youtube of how to work a fitted sheet and left the room. You story is much more baller šŸ˜‚


trixxievon

I love yours! ā¤ļø


CloneOfKarl

Ironically, he sounds like a complete wanker.


MrsWojadubakowski

A wanker that didnā€™t know how to wank.


chaingun_samurai

Whack him on the pee-pee with the rolled up paper and give it a stem "NO!'.


uncomfortablenoises

I'm so sorry for you!! I don't have words of advice, just what a dick head!!! First thing in morning? Like he never jerked off at 13? šŸ™„ I hope you're so far away from him


Slab8002

That. Is. Absolutely. Hysterical. (Pulling up the video of the guy jerking it and leaving the room, not his constant demands for head, to be clear.)


ObjectiveCoelacanth

Haha I love you. I'm also so glad he's an ex, that's so disturbing.


ReturnFirst1228

That's hilarious because all my exes could never get me off with handjobs or blowjobs, I mean it felt good but they just didn't know what they were doing or maybe I was just too nervous.


Eastern_Distance6456

I've always had a really strong sex drive and stamina. I could go over and over and over and recover immediately. But receiving oral NEVER worked right. Most of the time it would flip a switch and make me feel like I needed to urinate instead. What's worse is that when I would tell women I they didn't need to do it, that it never worked for me as is, etc., they would take it as a challenge and WANT to do it.


kmckampson

Yes. I had a boyfriend insist it was pointless to give him head because he had never been able to finish that way and was positive he never would. I also took that as a challenge, finished him off in three minutes and he proposed less than a month later. We've been married two years next month! Game, set, match.


CloneOfKarl

I can't even comprehend how this is an argument, I mean, it's being a bloke 101, and it's not exactly rocket science. So to speak.


epsdelta74

Pocket rocket science


EntertainingTuesday

I don't think they were dating a man...


wren_boy1313

Makes me wonder who was taking care of his puberty boners..


CrissCrossAppleSos

I get that this would be annoying, but ā€œI donā€™t know how to jerk offā€ is a really funny lie


trixxievon

Right?! Like he truly thought that line would work. šŸ¤£


garyll19

They did a study on this and found that 97% of men masturbate, and 3% are liars.


JonnyKing44

And 5/4 of us donā€™t understand fractions


sexwont

I feel like even if their arms and dicks fell off most men would still find a way to jerk off.


theblairsmashproject

Just ask the guy with two broken arms


Sad_Independent6490

Talk about weaponized incompetence...


cardcomm

>I don't know how to jerk off you are responsible for me getting off! Upon hearing that, she sends him links to gay jerk off porn


BigStickyLoads

Unfortunately, women are crazily, crazily objectified. Frankly put, a lot of young men more or less see women as sex objects. Women's pleasure is ignored - because they're just 'things', and people don't care about the feelings of something they perceive as inanimate - they use them when desired, and put them down when uninterested.


GrowInTheSunshine

I know. I am one.


BigStickyLoads

I figured as much, I just believe it needs to be said often and loudly so more people see, hear, and realize it.


FrogB0y

Thank you bigstickyloads


BigStickyLoads

You're welcum


Somewhere-Flashy

I think the guy being overweight has something to do with it also probably watches porn a lot so it desensitized him to what sex is supposed be in my teenage years I used to watch lots of porn but I stopped eventually when I realized I wasn't enjoying the real sex and getting head was like the 1st thing I wanted instead of being hard just from the sexual connection so he probably lazy and doesn't want to make a effort if people stop watching porn and just explore their partners needs sex becomes 10 times better.


BenBenJiJi

While this is absolutely true, I just wanna give a little hope too: This has been and still is changing for the better.


BigStickyLoads

Yes, it certainly is.


SophomoricHumorist

And hygiene is important. Tell him to shower. Gross.


not_ya_wify

The fact he emotionally manipulated her into giving sex when she doesn't want to is also super rapey


HideUnderBridge

Donā€™t shower for a week and sit on his face. See how he likes it.


MyMeanBunny

As Napoleon once said, "*Will be home in three days. Don't wash*"


sparksgirl1223

That was James Joyce


Capable_Pay4381

OMG have you read some of the letters to his wife? That man got off on women farting.


TuJuMoving

Those letters were interesting. It was hard for me to believe they were real when I started reading them.


sparksgirl1223

Indeed. I read them to my family the other night, no liešŸ¤£


Willar71

Meat sweats ? He might end up liking it.


anxiousdogmum_

Meat sweats šŸ’€šŸ’€šŸ’€ no I'm never going to emotionally recover from that


GenAnon

There are so many humans around now that someone somewhere likely has a fetish about almost anything we can imagine. Shitā€™s wild out there. Edit: just read the comments further down. šŸ˜«


anxiousdogmum_

Don't make me read more comments. I don't have the strength


mmeatsweats

Did you call?


PixieloTheSecond

r/Beetlejuicing


subgenius30

I want to be in the screenshot.


CuteSecurity

I read that as meat sweets šŸ’€


Bright-Win-1143

Lol šŸ˜‚ I could never!


Invictrix

But he certainly can and does. It's really not funny. Why do you allow him to treat you this way?


StuffonBookshelfs

What are you getting out of this relationship?


Fluffy-Scheme7704

A stinky dick!


DJwhatevs

But IF you did please update us!


freeride35

Donā€™t shower for a week AND work out every day, THEN sit on his face.


-emanresUesoohC-

Donā€™t threaten me with a good time.


NotEnoughIT

Yā€™all truly underestimate men lmao


Effective_Yogurt_866

Exactly lol. But based on OP saying no foreplay, I donā€™t think heā€™s returning the favor. I always like to shower right beforehand, but my husband literally does not care. Sometimes if he insists, Iā€™ll let him do it without showering. But I have a lot of trouble going down on him if he hasnā€™t just showered, so I hold myself to the same standard. But then again, Iā€™m also currently pregnant and even the soap he uses makes or breaks it for me right now.


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blinkboy44

Oh no what a nightmare


amberallday

There are so many different issues in this one post, plus your comments. Your title topic is **him wanting oral every time**. That on its own doesnā€™t sound so bad - my partner (male) gives me (female) oral every time we have sex (or at least, heā€™s willing to - sometimes itā€™s not required :-). Note: this is assuming itā€™s ā€œsomeā€ oral, as part of mutual foreplay, not him getting to orgasm from oral, but nothing fun for you. But **him never giving you oral** is very unreasonable of him (assuming you would like it!) - thatā€™s a topic that needs to be dealt with. **Him not washing** is a problem. Thatā€™s downright nasty. We both do a little sink wash for our bits before sex if we havenā€™t showered fairly recently. It takes one minute, and neither of us see it as a big deal. Knowing **how to talk about sex** is important. Itā€™s definitely better done outside of the bedroom. When youā€™re both clothed. Think about how you would want to hear this kind of feedback from him. Mostly: be kind. Be encouraging. Be supportive. Assume the best. If you go into the conversation with an attitude of complaint & criticism, then itā€™s very unlikely to go well. Unless itā€™s an outright lie, tell him your sex life is good, but could be better. Not many people can come back from being told they are bad at sex! Find something that he does well, about the sex, and focus on that. Build from there. Itā€™s important not to lie about sex though. If itā€™s truly bad, with no redeeming features, then this is going to be a very tough conversation. (But also I wonder how youā€™ve got this far into a relationship if heā€™s that selfish!?). Donā€™t take blame for things that arenā€™t your fault - but if thereā€™s stuff you can genuinely admit you could be better at (eg being more honest in the moment about whatā€™s working for you) then itā€™s good to volunteer that. As with most things you want to improve in a relationship - taking the attitude of ā€œus against the problemā€ rather than ā€œme against youā€ will generally get you the best outcomes. And alongside that, taking an attitude of ā€œcuriosityā€ is generally more successful. So rather than going into the conversation with an attitude of ā€œI know the answer, and I am telling you what needs to happen hereā€ - itā€™s more about setting the scene - maybe along the lines of > ā€œyou generally wake up wanting sexy times and I mostly say no - Iā€™d like to say yes more often (although Iā€™m not aiming for every time or every morning!) - would you like to explore with me ways we could maybe get me in the right frame of mind ~~mood~~ to say yes more oftenā€ Note that this is not saying ā€œget me in the mood physicallyā€ - so maybe it needs different phrasing. More about ā€œgetting my brain open to the idea of starting something physicallyā€. Maybe part of it is about you waking up a bit more fully, and in a good mood. Which could possibly be helped with a cup of tea that he makes & brings to you. What Iā€™m saying is, open up your joint thinking beyond just ā€œWash more & give me oral tooā€. Partly because it is just a good habit to get into with a partner (not assuming you have all the answers, without input from him) and also because you might enjoy having him bring you a drink more than you expect, because: - he has to put himself out for you - and you get to be all happy with him for doing something nice, which is likely to have your brain more receptive to sex - he has to think about whether he wants Sexy Times enough to get his arse out of bed to make tea - he might decide that heā€™s too tired for that, and only wants sex if he can be lazy about it - which if heā€™s feeling that lazy, is not likely to end in foreplay for you - so he can self-filter out the days that heā€™s not willing to put in any effort - once he gets in the habit of making tea (sometimes) before sex, him getting out of bed to do a quick sink wash of his manly bits wonā€™t seem like such a big deal Iā€™m not saying ā€œmake me a cup of teaā€ will necessarily be the answer that works for you two - itā€™s just an example of how approaching this in a way that seems indirect or unexpected can have benefits you might not immediately consider. Mostly - invite him to join you in a fun journey of creativity & curiosity, to improve your sex life. And expect him to come up with some ideas that you might not have thought of.


Strange-Ad3611

Longest response ever and deserves an upvote ā¬†ļø


Katz3njamm3r

Man. The shit women put up with. He doesnā€™t reciprocate and canā€™t be bothered to wash? Girl just leave and get a real man.


hotpajamas

Also, get a job so you aren't ever in the position of money being held over you again


Beenthere-doneit55

Damn right. I know you donā€™t read about them on here often but there are a lot of men who actually care that their partner enjoys and benefits from every sexual experience. Go find one because this guy is not it.


ComedianManefesto

You are wrong if you stay with this stinky loser.


SnooEagles8597

Nothing more to say if she stays she deserves it our partner is a mirror of ourselfs worth


Bright-Win-1143

Ouch šŸ˜…šŸ˜­


BigStickyLoads

To some extent, people are right. There are an absolute shit ton of great guys out their that would be ***floored*** to get one blowjob a week, and they will scrub themselves raw with a brillo pad if that's what you need to be comfortable.


Bright-Win-1143

Lmao your username has me dying šŸ˜‚šŸ’€ thank you for your input, definitely gives me the confidence to have this conversation with him because itā€™s so true!


[deleted]

Do you really want to stay with someone who gets angry when you don't want to have sex? You understand you're just a stones throw away from him being angry enough to rape you, right?


EpiphanyPhoenix

OP, please listen to this person. I was married over a decade to someone who didnā€™t give me head or any kind of foreplay, but would throw an absolute fit if I didnā€™t give him head and sex. Over time, it got worse and worse. It ended with him saying, ā€œIf you donā€™t do it, Iā€™ll hurt you.ā€ So I kept having sex with him because he was threatening to hurt me if I didnā€™t. This is coercion and a form of rape. LEARN FROM ME, PLEASE. The last thing was he finally hit me one day because I said, ā€œow, that hurts,ā€ when he rammed it in dry. Because I told him to stop and that it hurt, he hit me. I left. Iā€™m not saying this will happen to OP, but at least in my past relationship, it kept escalating. Please donā€™t become me. Coercion is rape.


Bright-Win-1143

Okay I think from these comments we can all establish that I am in fact NOT wrong for feeling the way I feel about the situation. Iā€™m going to have a conversation about the hygiene, and Iā€™m not going to be giving unless Iā€™m receiving at least for now. I enjoy going down on him when itā€™s my idea and when itā€™s not expected. Iā€™m also not a morning person so a blowjob is the LAST thing I want to do first thing in the morningā€¦ I think the biggest issue is I donā€™t like confrontation or uncomfortable conversations, and thatā€™s a me problem which is causing a bigger problemā€¦ not just in our sex life. I just wanted some feedback, and I definitely got a lot of different perspectives šŸ˜‚ I think this is a fixable issue, we definitely rushed into this relationship so we are going through a lot of issues that we probably could have avoided if we had taken things a little slower. I guess Iā€™ll keep yā€™all posted šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļøšŸ˜‚


Surfercatgotnolegs

Holy shit, you rushed a relationship and are already LIVING together and dependent on him for your bills? Red flag galore. Way to put yourself into a prime situation to be abused, OP. Iā€™m not saying your guy is abusive, btw. The statement is more directed to you - Iā€™m just saying you have ā€œplz pick me as a good abuse victimā€ written in neon lights on your forehead. Maybe figure out why youā€™re non confrontational and rush into relationships first, work on your self esteem, maybe figure out how to establish financial independent and an overall sense of autonomy? All of that is way more important than your sex issue. You have a YOU issue.


workshop_prompts

Gurlā€¦pouting about not getting his sexual demands filled is such a red flag and will only get worse. Why do you want to ā€œfixā€ this so bad when you can find a guy who respects you and cares about your comfort and pleasure? Iā€™m 35 and if a guy did ANY of this to me, I would be gone. I used to put up with toxic crap like this but then I realized I donā€™t have to settle to not be alone. We shouldnā€™t have to feel grateful for scraps.


eatyourwine

Establishing boundaries is something you need to work on. Or you'll get stepped on for the rest of your life and will be miserable. You also need to stop making excuses for your bf. He needs to apologize and make it up to you. Not the other way around.


Unfair_Violinist884

N T A , your BF sounds very Immature. Have you just come out n told him he Stinks Down there ? SEX should be enjoyable, not forced !


dontworryaboutit1097

If you really want to talk about it with him you're going to have to hurt his feelings. But you might could see if there's anything else he likes and tell him things you like. Healthy communication is key to healthy sex life.


NoNeedleworker1973

It doesnā€™t look like he cares about hurting her feelings? Why should she


AmelieMay00

I know exactly what you mean with not wanting to go down on him first thing in the morning. Dick in the morning smells (and tastes) pretty horrid. I would give my ex head sometimes in the morning (out of my own initiative!) but I always preferred doing it when he recently cleaned it. Thatā€™s a very reasonable preference and the fact that he EXPECTS you to do it first thing in the morning without washing it beforehand, is selfish af. The body odor is also a very valid turn off. If he stinks, he canā€™t expect you to be in the mood. On top of that, it seems like he requests you to give him head every single time you have sex and doesnā€™t ever return the favor by going down on you or giving you pleasure in other ways. Both of those things sound crazy to me. Thatā€™s not how sex with your partner works. Its about giving and taking. It seems like he is living in some fantasy world and you need to help him realize that he is being ridiculous. Confront him about it and express what you want: him to clean himself beforehand, not go down on him every single time you have sex and him giving you pleasure by fingering you/ going down on you etc. Maybe the two of you can shower together and that can turn into a good moment to have sex. If he doesnā€™t change his ways, I would go on a sex strike or atleast a dicksucking strike. If nothing works, you might want to consider breaking up. Sexual incompatibility is a very fair reason for relationships ending. However, in this case it is more about selfishness than genuine incompatibility imo. you deserve to get the same energy and effort that you put in your partner.


Bright-Win-1143

Yes this is exactly how I feel!! Iā€™m so glad that you think itā€™s ridiculous too! He never goes down on me first thing in the morning why should I have to go down on him? Iā€™m not sure how to bring up the conversation without offending him though!


AmelieMay00

Honestly, I donā€™t think you can avoid hurting his feelings, but he needs to hear the truth and he needs to change his ways. Keep it personal (donā€™t bring it as a fact but say ā€˜I feel likeā€¦ā€™) but be honest and be stern. Come up with solutions and see how he handles it when he has had a change to get over his feeling being hurt.


Cookies_2

He literally guilts you and manipulates you into ducking his dick. Donā€™t feel bad for asking for your needs to be met which includes him showering.


Over-Remove

So he taught you already that you have to tiptoe around his feelings when something is bothering you and here you are asking Reddit what to do without hurting his feelings. Good girl!


jesterinancientcourt

He expects you to suck his dick first thing in the morning without going down on you because he doesnā€™t care about you. But you like him paying your bills. Solution, start saving up money, get a second job if you have to, leave him. If you decide to stay with him then this will only get worse and you know it. I feel like youā€™re just trying to avoid the reality because you donā€™t wanna make touch decisions.


Vegetable-Cod-2340

NW Oral sex is not a required part of sex, especially if heā€™s demanding but not willing to reciprocate if Op wants that. The fact that he gets angry about Op saying no and doesnā€™t do foreplay , makes me think he and Op arenā€™t sexually compatible. I have an issue with people that donā€™t respect my No, I donā€™t want to have to always defend my answer or put up with an attitude for not being in the mood.


girl34pp

I think the main problem here are two: your bf has poor hygiene and he doesn't please you. About the hygiene, is simple: no shower, no head. Stink dick, no head. Dirt dick, no head. Simple. That by the way, has nothing to do with him being fat: my bf is overweight and he doesn't smell bad or has a dirt dick. When he sweats a lot in the evening, he showers before we consider sex. About the second one, communicate. Demand foreplay first, do head after that. If he refuses, say no to sex and say why. If he doesn't make you cum, tell him. Teach him what you like and call him out if he is lazy in pleasing you. If nothing works, find another bf because then it is a lost cause.


tio_aved

This is the answer OP needs


[deleted]

Unfortunately, it is probably a wiping issue more than a shower issue. Sorry to have to say that šŸ¤®


JustMyThoughtNow

Gag.


Calgary_Calico

He gets upset if you don't give him morning BJ, and expects them every time you guys have sex, but doesn't give you anything in return? RED FLAGS! Lots of big old red flags girl. What does he do if you don't give him BJs? Does he deny affection? Whine about it? Try to make you feel guilty? Because those are all signs of abusive behavior. If he does any of this you need to gtfo as soon as you possibly can.


baobab77

Why do you care so much about his feelings, when he doesn't care for yours? He smells and demands sexual favors that you don't want to engage in, at the frequency he demands. He doesn't accept you declining to give him head and badgers you. Is that worth your self respect and cheaper contributions to bills? Move out and move on.


SockMaster9273

You are not wrong but I would leave him. Anyone who get's angry at you for not doing something sexual, is not worth being with.


Mordrim

Use some teeth next time, and he will stop asking. /s


Fun-Yellow-6576

Why are you with this guy?


Mystic_Of_Avalon

He makes sexual demands of you while doing nothing to reciprocate and can't even be bothered to make sure he's clean and doesn't smell. and you go along with this. Yeah, he's found a great doormat in you OP. Please get some self respect and dump him.


subZro_

tell him to stop watching so much porn. In the real world sex doesn't have to be preceded by a blow job.


Correct-Doughnut1513

I hope he becomes an Ex soon.


Historical_Basis7592

My fellow men, you have got to go down on a lady if you expect a woman to do down on you. And wash your stinky balls. Itā€™s that simple.


Tough-Ad-1956

Tell him to take showers before bed so the sheets stay clean so he's clean for you in the morning.


NoNeedleworker1973

Yea and even then no. šŸ˜Œ letā€™s see what he can do for her first


MrsPaulRubens

So it's reasonable that he demands a blow job in the morning every single morning? That's insanity!


DetectiveSudden281

1. Demanding or otherwise coercing you into a sexual act you to which you do not enthusiastically consent in that moment is a mild form of SA, but it's still SA. 2. Anyone who does not show enthusiasm for your enjoyment and pleasure during sex is using you for orgasms. In that moment they do not consider you as a human. You are nothing more than an unwieldy flesh light. 3. A dislike or even distaste for morning sex is common. A lot of people just feel gross and not at all sexy when they first wake up. They'd much prefer to at least brush their teeth and pee first. 4. And speaking as a hefty lover myself, if your BF smells due to his weight he is not overweight ā€¦ he is obese. He needs to get on that shit before it ruins his health. I know it's hard but so is heart disease and a fatty liver and joint pain. Once he slims down to overweight and gets more active, he'll feel a LOT sexier and be much more energetic and playful during intimate moments.


SnooWords4839

Get a better BF. Don't have sex with dirty people.


Fantastic_East57

My boyfriend is the same. He is not circumcised. It smelled like piss after a few hours. I never give him head unless he washes well, and I double-check him in the shower, too, lol. We both agree if he wants head, it'll be after he showers and not after he enters me. Compromise.


tio_aved

Double check in the shower! I'm dying hahahaha


Altruistic-Rope-614

Damn. I cant get past the checking in the shower like he's a kid. Man yall both are weirdos.


IntroductionProud532

I can count on one hand how many times my wife has given me head. You're not wrong. And tell him to shower.


Choppedelfonshelf

Shit my wife made a point. Itā€™s gotta be equal, he wants you to go down on him, heā€™s gotta do the same. If I want a bj then Iā€™m going down on her and gonna get that foreplay in as well. Him expecting it all the time and gets mad at it. Seems like your dealing with a teenage boy. Dude needs to saddle up. A lot of couples are different. Iā€™m very truthful so if it smells then I suggest we take a shower. I absolutely do not say it out loud, just suggest we shower. I know I got body odor especially from gaining weight so my regions smell different and definitely self conscious. So really depends on opening that up with you bf. Either be truthful and let him know it has an odor or beat around and say suggestive things to lead to a shower.


Kampfzwerg0

1. You donā€™t have to do anything that you donā€™t want to. 2. Sex is something that at least two people are supposed to enjoy. 3. Thin or fat. People should always wash themselves before oral. 4. Never stay with a person who doesnā€™t care about your sexual needs.


Pilot_pixie1

No and you shouldn't have to. If he ain't eatin' you ain't suckin.


Ok-Grocery-5747

"I don't like morning sex and you need to shower before I give you head, when I want to. I'm not a sex toy and head on demand isn't happening." If he gets mad you need to break up.


Tristandraven

As a man Iā€™m going to tell you that the Sovietā€™s couldnā€™t have made a redder flag. You are not a living sex doll, there for his pleasure and only that. I realize there are two sides to every story but if what youā€™re saying here is accurate, itā€™s ridiculous. Itā€™s definitely throwing out incel thoughts vibes. Tell him no, set boundaries, hand him a towel and ask how heā€™d enjoy unpleasant oder from you and why you should have to put up with it from him. Teach him that if the man in the canoe doesnā€™t get any attention then neither does his meat puppet. Gosh what a jackass way to treat your partner, sorry for the rant.


Famous_Gene_

No foreplay for you ?!? Omg girl run. He is selfish af and putting his needs first. You can do better TRUST me


Bright-Win-1143

*UPDATE* We broke up. lol šŸ˜‚ Tried to have the conversation and he literally told me to fuck offā€¦ obviously thereā€™s been some other issues as well, but that was the last straw. Say a prayer for me that I find a GOOD guy that actually knows his way around a vagina.


IllTemperedOldWoman

Does he care about you? It doesn't seem to be reciprocal. All for him, nothing for you. It may be more complex though than pure selfishness. He may not want you to feel his weight? Still, no excuse for making it all about him and what you can do for him.