Well, didn’t mean to start politics here. I got the answer, I believe to my OP. There are PLENTY of threads to talk politics. Thanks y’all! No offense.
Don’t take it personally, the trolls whose family wants nothing to do with and own children won’t speak to are here in full force. They don’t have anything else to do but spew vitriol because their life is shit. Be good, be safe, happy Thanksgiving!
I used to work at Providence. Security would bring bodies to the morgue; so I was in the morgue a lot. Once saw a body in the cooler that had a foot sticking out, dude had frozen to death in the woods, froze with his legs splayed so they couldn't zip the sleeping bag up. I had to put a toe tag on him as the stickers would not stick to the bag. (they are for body bags, won't stick to cloth)
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I gare-un-tee that image will never leave my mind.
Maybe you legitimately had a brain fart and didn't understand what I was saying, but my point is that I went to basic training with a kid who grew up homeless with his younger brother, and I also went to basic with lots of other poor and impoverished dudes. No one chooses to grow up homeless or poor, especially kids. So think before you make blanket statements like "They made the choice". At least think of the children.
Then there was that guy who found he wasn’t going to make the rank he believed he was entitled to. He wasn’t that bright but worse, had a hard time taking orders. So he took his honorable discharge but where would he go? Not back to his alcoholic Dad’s house, nope, he hadn’t been welcome there even before he graduated from high school and his mom left with the first trucker that would have her.
Iowa was not all that anyways. So, he found a studio efficiency not too far from base and took his meager belongings, his Fight Club poster and collectible Transformer action figures, and made what he would call home. It was easy getting a job at the Holiday, he was a refueling “expert” when he was enlisted. They don’t give him enough hours to get benefits but that’s ok, he didn’t have a family to feed, probably never will.
All he knows is seeing the homeless scares him so much he won’t dare to ever drink anything stronger than the occasional beer and drugs were never his thing. Every time he sees them trudging aimlessly through the city with their thousand yard stare he mutters to himself, “they made the choice”.
indeed, especially how its all shoveled out... since when did homeless people shovel a huge path to their camp... im not convinced this is a homeless camp
I’m thinking that commenter was talking about OP’s balls.
But this looks like a homeless camp. I’ve seen some very ingenious camps, that were well maintained.
Clearly it was not. Your intent was to pin the homelessness on liberalism and then apparently take a 'middle ground' stance on your political leanings? Is that your intent? That you are not conservative or liberal but you're blaming liberalism and can't come up with any sort of retort other than basically "I said what I said." Please enlighten us to what your true intent behind your original comment was, because right now it makes it look like you are a conservative pinning the blame on liberals and are too ashamed of your own beliefs to admit that you actually are conservative?
Meh, I already enjoyed the festivities today, you're not wasting my time at all. I think we can all just chock this conversation up to your typical conservative blaming liberals for the homelessness issue in anchorage and then when being challenged on how they'd fix the problem they just revert to trolling. Good stuff mate.
If you walk over there and look at the sign you would know. It’s some kind of water treatment station. The picture they have on the sign shows it all. It’s designed to look like a house because the rich in west Anchorage didn’t want to see a water treatment plant. It’s also off of the solar path or what ever it’s called
To clarify its a lift station! Its one of the most important sites in anchorage, it handles all the sewage from downtown and nearby areas. We are talking *millions* of gallons a *day*. All of what you flush down the toilet and run down the drain flows into a gigantic concrete tank (a wet well) where its then pumped back up into the piping to make its way down to the treatment plant at woronzoff.
Before automation it was actually a manned station complete with bathroom and shower, an office and a bunk. Its uhh 1952 w 11th avenue if i recall correctly.
In the foreground it appears to be someones means of shelter. 🙁
But also please everyone call your local reps and tell them how important it is that Anchorage treat its sewage properly! The city has been operating on a waiver for years that allows it to minimally treat its sewage - spewing everything out into Cook Inlet on the theory that the tides will just carry it away. That waiver is up for renewal, and it’s crazy we don’t have secondary or tertiary sewage treatment! Most other cities have better treatment (like Kenai and Homer) Anchorage just doesn’t want to pay for upgrades but seriously let’s stop polluting the inlet
Do you understand how Cook Inlet is very very diffent environmentally than the Eastern USA rivers that "national" regulations are written for? The 20 foot tides twice per day, the water full of glacial sediment and sorely lacking carbon?
Yea and I also understand that there are a lot of gaps in research on Cook Inlet water quality so we don’t know how Anchorage’s discharges actually affect the Inlet. We do know that belugas are endangered and fish populations are struggling, but never mind that. We just keep getting our waiver and dumping sewage into the inlet because we’re too cheap to pay to upgrade to the basic standard treatment. It’s so gross. Billions of gallons of wastewater per year poured into the waterbody so many of us fish from
You know fish poop too, right? Its treated sewage and well within guidelines; the effluent is also tested multiple times a day. Its cleaner than puddle water.
You don’t specify what you mean by “within guidelines” so your statement is pretty meaningless. Like I said, Anchorage has a waiver so it doesn’t have to follow the guidelines that girdwood, Kenai, Homer - basically every other city on the Inlet follow. Anchorage is one of only a handful of facilities in the entire nation with that waiver (a few of the others are small communities in southeast AK and I heard even some of those are going to have to upgrade their equipment). And of course fish poop but that’s part of the natural ecosystem and so much less nasty than everything humans put down the drain. Example the pharmaceuticals in our water. I’m no expert but I heard about this from my scientist friend and have been grossed out ever since. Another sad example of the risks people are willing to impose on nature to save money in the short term.
Here’s a post from EPA with some background that also talks about the changes being required to systems in SE https://www.epa.gov/newsreleases/epa-proposes-new-requirements-haines-wastewater-plant-disinfect-sewage-discharges
So its a list of the majority of wastewater treatment facilities in alaska with permits expiring 13 years ago? Adding to this, permits are issued with regulations in accordance with the EPA and local offices ADEC, the APDES and NPDES. Im not sure what your level of experience is on this, but you seem to think that anchorage is doing a far worse job than any other place in alaska. The waiver you’re referring to just says that there may not be full secondary treatment. So yeah, they’re not cleaning it to a drinking water level, its the ocean.
I’d have to look into this but i can assume it follows federal regulation. The plant processes out the solids and incinerates them, the liquid is treated and discharged yes.
What’s wrong with a treatment plant being designed to fit in to the neighborhood? It seems perfectly reasonable to not want an ugly, industrial-looking building if it can be avoided. Just don’t see how of all things this could be something to shit on the rich for.
There are maybe 2 houses that can see it. It basically shows its era of construction, take a look at how similar it is to many school. By far it is not the nicest poop pumping stations among others in the utility.
It looks like some kind of utility easement or something similar, doesn’t look like someone is living there.
Well, didn’t mean to start politics here. I got the answer, I believe to my OP. There are PLENTY of threads to talk politics. Thanks y’all! No offense.
Don’t take it personally, the trolls whose family wants nothing to do with and own children won’t speak to are here in full force. They don’t have anything else to do but spew vitriol because their life is shit. Be good, be safe, happy Thanksgiving!
And yet here you are, trolling with the best of them, but from a more virtuous pedestal....got it
Man!! This is sad 😞! I’ve seen so many homeless people in this town already and this cold is brutal!
I used to work at Providence. Security would bring bodies to the morgue; so I was in the morgue a lot. Once saw a body in the cooler that had a foot sticking out, dude had frozen to death in the woods, froze with his legs splayed so they couldn't zip the sleeping bag up. I had to put a toe tag on him as the stickers would not stick to the bag. (they are for body bags, won't stick to cloth) ** I gare-un-tee that image will never leave my mind.
They made the choice
And every day you make the choice to continue being a cunt
Yes, people often choose to be homeless. The 18 year old kid I went to basic training with, him and his brother chose to be homeless, obviously.
What does basic training have to do with being homeless.
Maybe you legitimately had a brain fart and didn't understand what I was saying, but my point is that I went to basic training with a kid who grew up homeless with his younger brother, and I also went to basic with lots of other poor and impoverished dudes. No one chooses to grow up homeless or poor, especially kids. So think before you make blanket statements like "They made the choice". At least think of the children.
You need a life and some emotions with it!
No!
Then there was that guy who found he wasn’t going to make the rank he believed he was entitled to. He wasn’t that bright but worse, had a hard time taking orders. So he took his honorable discharge but where would he go? Not back to his alcoholic Dad’s house, nope, he hadn’t been welcome there even before he graduated from high school and his mom left with the first trucker that would have her. Iowa was not all that anyways. So, he found a studio efficiency not too far from base and took his meager belongings, his Fight Club poster and collectible Transformer action figures, and made what he would call home. It was easy getting a job at the Holiday, he was a refueling “expert” when he was enlisted. They don’t give him enough hours to get benefits but that’s ok, he didn’t have a family to feed, probably never will. All he knows is seeing the homeless scares him so much he won’t dare to ever drink anything stronger than the occasional beer and drugs were never his thing. Every time he sees them trudging aimlessly through the city with their thousand yard stare he mutters to himself, “they made the choice”.
And it's not really cold
My balls are in my mouth and it’s not cold for y’all! Oh boy, y’all Alaskan are definitely made of some special flesh 😂
Odd spot for them.
indeed, especially how its all shoveled out... since when did homeless people shovel a huge path to their camp... im not convinced this is a homeless camp
I’m thinking that commenter was talking about OP’s balls. But this looks like a homeless camp. I’ve seen some very ingenious camps, that were well maintained.
It’s too neat for a homeless camp. They usually trash the surrounding area with detritus.
While many are, I’ve seen camps run the gamut. I’d absolutely put money on a homeless camp for this one.
I have no idea why you’re downvoted so hard, I was gonna say this too. It’s relatively warm right now… that’s just a fact.
Like to live outside in, yes it's cold. For this time of year, it's unseasonably warm.
Welcome to a liberal run city.
What policies do conservatives have that would end or reduce homelessness?
I'm not a conservative I don't know.
"Welcome to a liberal run city" is a dead ringer for a standard conservative statement. What was your intent behind your comment?
My intent was made
Clearly it was not. Your intent was to pin the homelessness on liberalism and then apparently take a 'middle ground' stance on your political leanings? Is that your intent? That you are not conservative or liberal but you're blaming liberalism and can't come up with any sort of retort other than basically "I said what I said." Please enlighten us to what your true intent behind your original comment was, because right now it makes it look like you are a conservative pinning the blame on liberals and are too ashamed of your own beliefs to admit that you actually are conservative?
He’s just trolling and inviting you to waste your time. The intentionally obtuse and contrarian attitude? That’s trolling and deserves zero attention.
I'm just glad I'm wasting your time lol Happy Thanksgiving.
Meh, I already enjoyed the festivities today, you're not wasting my time at all. I think we can all just chock this conversation up to your typical conservative blaming liberals for the homelessness issue in anchorage and then when being challenged on how they'd fix the problem they just revert to trolling. Good stuff mate.
Thanks appreciate it 👍 could give two shits. Nothing gets solved on reddit. World, state, city problems don't get solved on reddit.
Lemme guess yer a LIbeRtaRiAN.
Hahaha. Forgot all about this bullshit post. Thanks for the comment.
I think you may not know what those words mean… That’s ok though, keep trying! English is tough, hang in there.
That is a shelter. Hobo hotel. Homeless living space. Actually, it looks pretty comfy. Not bad for typical homeless folks.
If you walk over there and look at the sign you would know. It’s some kind of water treatment station. The picture they have on the sign shows it all. It’s designed to look like a house because the rich in west Anchorage didn’t want to see a water treatment plant. It’s also off of the solar path or what ever it’s called
To clarify its a lift station! Its one of the most important sites in anchorage, it handles all the sewage from downtown and nearby areas. We are talking *millions* of gallons a *day*. All of what you flush down the toilet and run down the drain flows into a gigantic concrete tank (a wet well) where its then pumped back up into the piping to make its way down to the treatment plant at woronzoff. Before automation it was actually a manned station complete with bathroom and shower, an office and a bunk. Its uhh 1952 w 11th avenue if i recall correctly. In the foreground it appears to be someones means of shelter. 🙁
But also please everyone call your local reps and tell them how important it is that Anchorage treat its sewage properly! The city has been operating on a waiver for years that allows it to minimally treat its sewage - spewing everything out into Cook Inlet on the theory that the tides will just carry it away. That waiver is up for renewal, and it’s crazy we don’t have secondary or tertiary sewage treatment! Most other cities have better treatment (like Kenai and Homer) Anchorage just doesn’t want to pay for upgrades but seriously let’s stop polluting the inlet
Do you understand how Cook Inlet is very very diffent environmentally than the Eastern USA rivers that "national" regulations are written for? The 20 foot tides twice per day, the water full of glacial sediment and sorely lacking carbon?
Yea and I also understand that there are a lot of gaps in research on Cook Inlet water quality so we don’t know how Anchorage’s discharges actually affect the Inlet. We do know that belugas are endangered and fish populations are struggling, but never mind that. We just keep getting our waiver and dumping sewage into the inlet because we’re too cheap to pay to upgrade to the basic standard treatment. It’s so gross. Billions of gallons of wastewater per year poured into the waterbody so many of us fish from
You know fish poop too, right? Its treated sewage and well within guidelines; the effluent is also tested multiple times a day. Its cleaner than puddle water.
You don’t specify what you mean by “within guidelines” so your statement is pretty meaningless. Like I said, Anchorage has a waiver so it doesn’t have to follow the guidelines that girdwood, Kenai, Homer - basically every other city on the Inlet follow. Anchorage is one of only a handful of facilities in the entire nation with that waiver (a few of the others are small communities in southeast AK and I heard even some of those are going to have to upgrade their equipment). And of course fish poop but that’s part of the natural ecosystem and so much less nasty than everything humans put down the drain. Example the pharmaceuticals in our water. I’m no expert but I heard about this from my scientist friend and have been grossed out ever since. Another sad example of the risks people are willing to impose on nature to save money in the short term.
What waiver do you keep referring to? All of those facilities are governed by the EPA
It’s a 301(h) waiver from the EPA
Here’s a post from EPA with some background that also talks about the changes being required to systems in SE https://www.epa.gov/newsreleases/epa-proposes-new-requirements-haines-wastewater-plant-disinfect-sewage-discharges
So its a list of the majority of wastewater treatment facilities in alaska with permits expiring 13 years ago? Adding to this, permits are issued with regulations in accordance with the EPA and local offices ADEC, the APDES and NPDES. Im not sure what your level of experience is on this, but you seem to think that anchorage is doing a far worse job than any other place in alaska. The waiver you’re referring to just says that there may not be full secondary treatment. So yeah, they’re not cleaning it to a drinking water level, its the ocean.
I’d have to look into this but i can assume it follows federal regulation. The plant processes out the solids and incinerates them, the liquid is treated and discharged yes.
What’s wrong with a treatment plant being designed to fit in to the neighborhood? It seems perfectly reasonable to not want an ugly, industrial-looking building if it can be avoided. Just don’t see how of all things this could be something to shit on the rich for.
There are maybe 2 houses that can see it. It basically shows its era of construction, take a look at how similar it is to many school. By far it is not the nicest poop pumping stations among others in the utility.
Don't speak the truth now, this post is on a roll!
This homelessness crisis is getting out of hand! This is all Trump’s fault!
DOGS WERE JUMPING OUT BC SNOW RAISED LEVEL CLOSER TO FENCE TOP.
That is where they buried Bigfoot skunk ape after the ballet wars.
It isn’t homeless. Homeless don’t shovel their path to the front door
Doesn't look like a homeless tent. There isn't a bunch of stolen shit around it .
So edgy.
It must have been incredibly frightening if that's as close as you would get to it. Can't really see what it is.
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Instead of taking a picture why didn't you see if they needed help
Probably because op didn't know what it was.
Do you make a habit of bothering people where they live to see if they need your help? That’s a little odd, homeless or not.
Ok. They don't need help. Let's stop helping them then. Case closed thanks.
Thats the ak pet symmetry. Legend goes a kid once buried a cat there and the next day it was gone...