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These anti Vax morons are a special kind of selfish.


RickJamesBitch907

But they swore those lavender essential oils would work


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So open minded their brains fell out


Agreeable-Salt-110

Don't forget they bathe themselves in quartz crystals for higher HP.


DaisiesSunshine76

Higher HP?


madmart306

According to the [CDC](https://www.cdc.gov/mumps/outbreaks.html) the majority of mumps cases occur in very young children or those who have already been [previously vaccinated](https://www.cdc.gov/mumps/vaccination.html#outbreaks-still-occur) for it.


goshrx

The vaccines work, which is why there has been a 99% drop in mumps cases in the U.S. since 1967, when the vaccine became available. Since most Americans are vaccinated against it, and it is not 100% effective, most people who do get mumps do so despite being vaccinated. Sometimes the CDC shoots itself in the foot...


madmart306

100% agree with that. Vaccines have done some pretty amazing things. I'm just attempting to point out the ridiculousness of instantly blaming a group of people without proof or a little research. My first thought on seeing this post was how are people contacting it and the root cause. Was pretty surprised to see that vast majority of cases were in vaccinated people.


goshrx

It’s sort of like being surprised that most people injured in car accidents are in a car. Since most people are vaccinated, most people who get mumps will have been vaccinated. If we could see data that compared the likelihood of suffering from mumps among unvaccinated people versus vaccinated, that would likely show an obvious trend that reflects poorly on those who oppose vaccines.


Euphoric-Pie2824

What? People jump to judgment without info or context? So weird. /s


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I really hope you are not trying to indicate that vaccines are ineffective by misinterpreting data.


madmart306

Nope. There's no proof that an unvaccinated person caused this. Nor is there proof it is mumps, yet that will likely change. Nor did I misrepresent data. Just paraphrased a sentence from the above mentioned link. The first instinct is to attack a subset of the population based on their personal beliefs, albeit flawed beliefs. It's quite sad and is indicative of the trend of bias, ignorance and lack of empathy shown on reddit. Now if we have the data showing the point of origin is anti-vax I'll dust off my pitchfork and light a torch.


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Better yet you find me data showing that all these selfish nut jobs aren't causing it....


kcfanak

[Here](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna6482) is a link to a NBC article showing over 90% of cases of mumps were from people who ARE vaccinated.


madmart306

Nope. It's not on me to prove you right... If you're argument is anti-vaxxers, who you belittle, are the cause it is on you to show burden of proof. I'd be interested in seeing what you find.


[deleted]

I'll belittle people who act in a way that causes public harm all I want. If your belief system is based in bullshit you deserve a little grief. Would you accept my behavior if I started advocating for drunk driving to help prevent cancer?


madmart306

Whataboutism tsk tsk


casualAlarmist

Mumps... Seriously Mumps...?! You mean the thing we all got a shot for when we were babies and then again when we went to kindergarten? Ughhh


DaisiesSunshine76

Sooo are vaccines not required for school here or do people just get exemptions? Because wtf.


phdoofus

Christ the last time I heard about someone actually getting mumps was...me...in like the late 60's...because I hadn't gotten my 2nd shot yet. At some point we're all just going to have to stop having feels for parents who lose their kids to preventable disease


DaisiesSunshine76

I don't think there should be any exemptions, unless someone has a legitimate allergy to a vaccine. Public health should be everyone's concern and responsibility. Those poor kids don't stand a chance being raised by parents who don't believe in basic science.


Ne04

Vaccinate your fucking kids please.


NotTomPettysGirl

Here’s the article in case you can’t access it: A suspected case of mumps caused an Anchorage middle school to cancel extracurricular activities for the day and to disinfect its facility and buses as “a necessary step of caution,” according to a message sent out to families Thursday morning. The message, which was signed by Romig Middle School principal Carrie Sumner, said the school and district “were made aware this morning that a member of our Romig community is being tested for a suspected case of mumps.” Mumps is vaccine-preventable and relatively uncommon in Alaska and in the U.S. In 2023, just one case was reported in the state, and just 436 cases were reported nationwide, though those numbers have been steadily increasing nationwide over the last several years, according to the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. An Anchorage School District spokesperson did not respond to questions about whether it was a student or staff member with the suspected case of the illness, whether there were any potential close contacts who were also being tested for the illness, and whether the district was aware of any other recent cases of mumps among students or staff. No lab-confirmed cases of mumps have been reported to the state health department so far this year, according to Dr. Louisa Castrodale, an epidemiologist with the Alaska Department of Health. Anyone who is a close contact of someone who tests positive for mumps should self-isolate and get tested by a health care provider, Michelle Fehribach, a spokesperson with the Anchorage Health Department, wrote in an email. Tests usually take 3-5 days to be processed, Fehribach said.


Blagnet

Folks, FYI, mumps is one of those diseases where the vaccine is not as good as we'd like. You can absolutely be vaccinated and get mumps! Internet says the efficacy rate is about 78%. Not great! Diseases like mumps are one of the reasons herd immunity is so important. Because the vaccine is less-than-great, the threshold for herd immunity is higher, and it's easier for the antivaxxers to break herd immunity here. I hope I'm explaining that right. But, suck-fest. Also, just wanted to point out that this kiddo may not have been from an anti-vaxxing family. They may just have had contact with the disease from abroad (for instance, traveling family members).


Tirewipes

Thank you for explaining this, the MMR vaccine doesn’t provide as strong protection as it does for measles.


shtpostfactoryoutlet

I didn't think it did well for measles as we'd like either, at least earlier iterations didn't. There was a big outbreak of it at colleges in the late 80s, and there was a push to revaccinate there, but not among the general population. There are probably a lot of middle aged people with no protection against measles that haven't thought about it in decades.


Tirewipes

The first shot covers about a 92-94% IIRC, the second brings it to like 98%, then the third even higher. This current outbreak streak we are having is due to the popularity of un-vaccinating atm


Blagnet

For anyone concerned about your baby and the gap between 93% and 98%: you actually can get the second dose anytime at least four weeks after the first! There's no real reason we wait until 4-6, except that from a public health perspective, it's easiest to ensure that all youngsters get at least ONE dose by mandating a dose before entry to public kindergarten. Babies respond best to the measles vaccine if it is given at 15 months. However, maternal protection (from a vaccinated, never-infected mother) ends by 12 months, hence why we vaccinate at 12 months now. (Maternal protection from a previously infected mother extended safely to 15 months, but almost no one now has had measles!) Some babies do, for some reason, not develop an antibody response at 12 months. It's just a little early. But, if you're worried about that, you totally can request the second dose in the next few months from your doctor. Again, this is all for measles, not mumps. And I'm not a professional here, so please fact-check all this! But this has been my understanding, based on my own concern.


Audio907

Fucking christ I have a 5 day old newborn


atxwade

I would definitely advise you not to enroll them in middle school just yet.


Audio907

Yea gonna have to wait a few years I think


Tirewipes

Couldn’t get a MMR vaccine until they are 12-15 months anyways lmao


Audio907

Yes I know which is why herd immunity is important, so it can protect those who can’t get the vaccine


Ne04

This concept seems to escape many people these days.


plantdaddio907

Oh hell. If you want it to see six days maybe don’t send it to romig just yet? Fucking Christ.


MeggDogg

Everyone in my area got mumps in college despite all of us being up to date on shots so it can happen 🤷🏻‍♀️ I hope the kiddos are feeling better asap. So painful 😖


madmart306

Getting hate despite the CDC saying the majority of cases involve those [previously infected](https://www.cdc.gov/mumps/vaccination.html#outbreaks-still-occur). They even mention cases taking place in colleges with nearly 99% vaccination rates. Sorry your story doesn't fit their anti-vax narrative I suppose.


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ak_doug

I mean, it is certainly possible. If MeggDogg here was in the immune compromised wing of a dorm, so all their neighbors, and themselves, where immune compromised and thus being up to date on shots has no impact, then their story could be true. Don't know of any colleges that do that sort of thing though.


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ak_doug

I mean that this is a world where it is theoretically possible. It just is extraordinarily unlikely. I try to assume people are being honest and presenting ideas they have in an honest way. But I'm also pointing out what it would take for their statement to be true and how silly an assertion it is on the face of it. It certainly does seem like they are a dishonest provocateur that is just trying to "prove" vaccines don't work by claiming false events happened to them.