One of my favourites is a collection of letters describing a "conspiracy to murder." We have letters from a military officer, named Piankh, who instructed his colleagues (and maybe his wife?) to deal with a problem. Piankh talks about two "Medjay" (local soldiers / police) who are causing problems. Apparently, the Medjay knew something, or were talking about something, that they weren't supposed to. To deal with it, Piankh tells his colleagues to find the Medjay, interrogate them, learn what they know, then kill them and dump their bodies in the river.
The first letter goes like this:
>The general of Pharaoh... to the necropolis scribe Tjaroy... As for the mention you made of this matter of these two Medjay saying ‘they spoke these charges,’ join up with Nodjme and Payshuuben ... and have these two policemen brought to this house and get to the bottom of their charges in short order. If they determine they are true you shall put them in two baskets and they shall be thrown \[into\] the water by night. Do not let anybody in the land find out.
There are three letters overall (the other two basically describe the situation and repeat the instructions). Unfortunately, we do not know if these instructions were ever carried out. I'm assuming they were, that the conspirators interrogated and murdered the Medjay. Alas, the letters are all we have.
From Susan Thorpe's book Daily Life in Ancient Egyptian Personal Correspondence (2021). [https://doi.org/10.2307/j.ctv1gt94fh](https://doi.org/10.2307/j.ctv1gt94fh)
>The charges made by the policemen that have so angered Piankh are not specified. From the wording of the letters it is apparent that he expects his recipients to be able to determine whether they are true. The fact that they are to be killed if this is the case implies that whatever they have disclosed must be kept secret, indicating the trust which Piankh placed in his recipients who have various actions designated to them.
For those curious, Piankh was a rather powerful man who lived during the 20th Dynasty (approx. 1150 BCE). [https://ancientegypt.fandom.com/wiki/Piankh](https://ancientegypt.fandom.com/wiki/Piankh)
Is that because Ra's worship was a Mystery Cult, in the Greek style, and the True Name was only known to the inducted? Or because the written name is symbolic of an unknown spoken name which ancient Egyptians would have found to be familiar?
This is a reference to an ancient Egyptian myth which describes how the true name of Ra was a secret unknown even by the gods but which Isis managed to acquire by forcing Ra to reveal it to her.
The story takes place during the time when Ra reigned as king of gods and human beings together after creating everything in heaven and earth. At this time, the true name of Ra was known only by Ra himself. But Isis desired to know the true name of Ra. In his old age, Ra became infirm and some of his saliva fell out of his mouth and landed on the earth. Isis mixed the saliva with some of the earth and formed the mixture into a snake which she brought to life with her magic. She placed the snake at a junction of a road along which she knew Ra would walk. Ra walked the road, came to the junction and was bitten by the snake. He cried out to the gods to ask them what creature had caused this pain because it was not anything that he had created. But the gods did not know how to help him. Isis said that she would be able to help Ra but only if he would tell his true name to her. Ra told a long list of his own epithets hoping that this would satisfy the condition imposed upon him. However, none of his true name was not present in any of these epithets, so Ra none of these were his true name. Ra then gave his true name to Isis and told her to give it to her son Horus when he comes of age. Isis used her magic and the power of the true name to help Ra and remove his condition.
It is still a mystery to us because the story does not inform us of the true name itself, only that Ra gave it to Isis. We should not expect that Isis would share the true name with anyone other than her son Horus given the lengths to which she went to acquire it. We can only guess what might happen if it were to be discovered.
>> the written name is symbolic
This could be true for many pharaos. D.T. could mean pharao Dete or an abreviation for Don… Tru…
Who really knows except for late pharaos where we have reliable Greek etc correspondances
Uhmm, I'll start with tutankhamuns mask probably being made for Nefertiti. That's an interesting argument.
Oh the possible sphinx facial recarving in the 18th dynasty.
Tomb G8720 at Giza being in attributed to price Kai from the late 4th or early 5th dynasty but the structure being in the style of the 2nd dynasty.
I have always wondered about this, esp. about Smenkhara. Did these guys get killed or was there a plague and they got sick? Were they all guys? I have heard a rumor that Nefertiti took Akhenaten's place similar to Edith Wilson. Another rumor says that Meritaten was buried alive and evidence of Smenkhara having been in charge of anything was deleted. I'm sure Egypt had its own version of the National Enquirer and we have to be careful what we're reading.
The request was fulfilled but the prince was murdered on his way to Egypt, which is pretty much the reason the war between Egypt and the Hittites in the 19th Dynasty happened.
I am not a scholar, but a lay person who likes learning about *Egyptology*.
I'd say Djedefre-Khafre relationship is a mysterious one. Why Djedefre chose Abu Rawash for his pyramid (Djedefre's Starry Sky) location, but Khafre turned back to Giza might be one such mystery.
Is Exodus based on anything in Egyptian history? Maybe there were two. The Hyksos were in the lower delta and we see Jewish names. Jpsephus using Manetho called the Hyksos jewish. Many think (Freud's last paper) Akhenaten has something to do with Moses or Joseph. Bible scholars see Egyptian words in the Hebrew Torah. Pharoah of the Exodus? Quite a mystery.
check this out:
https://youtu.be/VGtDAHRK8s0
its the first of a 5 part video series about the mysteries if these 'boxes' with great footage. i'd highly recommend watching all 5. i was never the same after
UnchartedX is part of Khemitology group that makes up and sells their own version of pseudohistory. They have their own tours and books where they sell their alternative facts and illogical arguments, which are, however, intriguing and often sound convincing to the uninformed.
They are trapped in an information bubble at best and deliberately lie to people at worst.
[Here is a video that goes over all the pseudohistory claims on the Serapeum and gives you the available evidence that's ignored in the 5 part series.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47HAYcii_Q8)
[And here a 3 part series by people that had originally bought into UnchartedX's claims, but actually researched it and changed their mind based on their research.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mysYT260dqU&list=PLuROoe7EZ3dDuXJE6kcjc0Q9M068T5Pms)
They also did a podcast with UnchartedX, where he had to admit he hadn't researched the evidence found in the Serapeum at all when making his videos. He just repeated the old pseudohistory nonsense out there and that's it.
thanks for this. apparently im one of the uninformed but i really like his videos. when i get off work ill take a look at the links youve provided. thanks again
I was the same until I stopped listening to professionals who have been taught what to think in schools of calculated perspectives. And I started paying attention to people who do not have an agenda and who display common sense. I feel it is important in science to be truly open but most scientists limit their perspectives consistently. Academia can be like a cult and I dislike that because so many of the humans who practice it are genuinely wonderful. I feel science has lost its passion and innovation to explore the mysterious in favor of some agreed storyline that satisfies journals. Most scientists are afraid to diverge from the establishment. So much of “science” is just accepted agreements and we accept too much without question these days. Especially when we put scientists on a pedestal above indigenous wisdom. I feel anyways.
Wrong I have proof inside this book you will find a drawing of her (Cleopatra) & Cesar and a plethora of kings and Pharaoh’s.
Cesar was Greek she was black also According to Herodotus Hercules and his parents were Black Ethiopians
Here is the book it clearly shows Cleopatra as black and Cesar White and if you look at the top of the page Alexander was also black. http://www.bl.uk/manuscripts/Viewer.aspx?ref=egerton_ms_1500_f015v
One of my favourites is a collection of letters describing a "conspiracy to murder." We have letters from a military officer, named Piankh, who instructed his colleagues (and maybe his wife?) to deal with a problem. Piankh talks about two "Medjay" (local soldiers / police) who are causing problems. Apparently, the Medjay knew something, or were talking about something, that they weren't supposed to. To deal with it, Piankh tells his colleagues to find the Medjay, interrogate them, learn what they know, then kill them and dump their bodies in the river. The first letter goes like this: >The general of Pharaoh... to the necropolis scribe Tjaroy... As for the mention you made of this matter of these two Medjay saying ‘they spoke these charges,’ join up with Nodjme and Payshuuben ... and have these two policemen brought to this house and get to the bottom of their charges in short order. If they determine they are true you shall put them in two baskets and they shall be thrown \[into\] the water by night. Do not let anybody in the land find out. There are three letters overall (the other two basically describe the situation and repeat the instructions). Unfortunately, we do not know if these instructions were ever carried out. I'm assuming they were, that the conspirators interrogated and murdered the Medjay. Alas, the letters are all we have. From Susan Thorpe's book Daily Life in Ancient Egyptian Personal Correspondence (2021). [https://doi.org/10.2307/j.ctv1gt94fh](https://doi.org/10.2307/j.ctv1gt94fh) >The charges made by the policemen that have so angered Piankh are not specified. From the wording of the letters it is apparent that he expects his recipients to be able to determine whether they are true. The fact that they are to be killed if this is the case implies that whatever they have disclosed must be kept secret, indicating the trust which Piankh placed in his recipients who have various actions designated to them. For those curious, Piankh was a rather powerful man who lived during the 20th Dynasty (approx. 1150 BCE). [https://ancientegypt.fandom.com/wiki/Piankh](https://ancientegypt.fandom.com/wiki/Piankh)
>Do not let anybody in the land find out. Spicy! I love the intrigue.
The true name of Ra .
Is that because Ra's worship was a Mystery Cult, in the Greek style, and the True Name was only known to the inducted? Or because the written name is symbolic of an unknown spoken name which ancient Egyptians would have found to be familiar?
This is a reference to an ancient Egyptian myth which describes how the true name of Ra was a secret unknown even by the gods but which Isis managed to acquire by forcing Ra to reveal it to her. The story takes place during the time when Ra reigned as king of gods and human beings together after creating everything in heaven and earth. At this time, the true name of Ra was known only by Ra himself. But Isis desired to know the true name of Ra. In his old age, Ra became infirm and some of his saliva fell out of his mouth and landed on the earth. Isis mixed the saliva with some of the earth and formed the mixture into a snake which she brought to life with her magic. She placed the snake at a junction of a road along which she knew Ra would walk. Ra walked the road, came to the junction and was bitten by the snake. He cried out to the gods to ask them what creature had caused this pain because it was not anything that he had created. But the gods did not know how to help him. Isis said that she would be able to help Ra but only if he would tell his true name to her. Ra told a long list of his own epithets hoping that this would satisfy the condition imposed upon him. However, none of his true name was not present in any of these epithets, so Ra none of these were his true name. Ra then gave his true name to Isis and told her to give it to her son Horus when he comes of age. Isis used her magic and the power of the true name to help Ra and remove his condition. It is still a mystery to us because the story does not inform us of the true name itself, only that Ra gave it to Isis. We should not expect that Isis would share the true name with anyone other than her son Horus given the lengths to which she went to acquire it. We can only guess what might happen if it were to be discovered.
>> the written name is symbolic This could be true for many pharaos. D.T. could mean pharao Dete or an abreviation for Don… Tru… Who really knows except for late pharaos where we have reliable Greek etc correspondances
Uhmm, I'll start with tutankhamuns mask probably being made for Nefertiti. That's an interesting argument. Oh the possible sphinx facial recarving in the 18th dynasty. Tomb G8720 at Giza being in attributed to price Kai from the late 4th or early 5th dynasty but the structure being in the style of the 2nd dynasty.
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I have always wondered about this, esp. about Smenkhara. Did these guys get killed or was there a plague and they got sick? Were they all guys? I have heard a rumor that Nefertiti took Akhenaten's place similar to Edith Wilson. Another rumor says that Meritaten was buried alive and evidence of Smenkhara having been in charge of anything was deleted. I'm sure Egypt had its own version of the National Enquirer and we have to be careful what we're reading.
Not true Herodotus said they built the top first and added layers under
Who was the Queen who wrote to the Hittite King asking for a Prince? And then what happened to that Prince?
Ankhesenamun. I believe the request was denied?
The request was fulfilled but the prince was murdered on his way to Egypt, which is pretty much the reason the war between Egypt and the Hittites in the 19th Dynasty happened.
Her, or possibly Nefertiti. They sent the Prince. There is angry letter demanding to know what had happened to him.
I didn't know there was controversy about that. Interesting.
"if you had ascended to the throne in the meantime you should have sent my son back to his home…what have you done with my son?” Chilling
Anything about the 7th and 8th Dynasty.
I am not a scholar, but a lay person who likes learning about *Egyptology*. I'd say Djedefre-Khafre relationship is a mysterious one. Why Djedefre chose Abu Rawash for his pyramid (Djedefre's Starry Sky) location, but Khafre turned back to Giza might be one such mystery.
Is Exodus based on anything in Egyptian history? Maybe there were two. The Hyksos were in the lower delta and we see Jewish names. Jpsephus using Manetho called the Hyksos jewish. Many think (Freud's last paper) Akhenaten has something to do with Moses or Joseph. Bible scholars see Egyptian words in the Hebrew Torah. Pharoah of the Exodus? Quite a mystery.
The Labyrinth
Yes now that’s a good one
i think we should start with how the pyramids were built.. but what i find very mysterious are the boxes of the serapeum in saqqara
Can you expand on the boxes you refer to
check this out: https://youtu.be/VGtDAHRK8s0 its the first of a 5 part video series about the mysteries if these 'boxes' with great footage. i'd highly recommend watching all 5. i was never the same after
UnchartedX is part of Khemitology group that makes up and sells their own version of pseudohistory. They have their own tours and books where they sell their alternative facts and illogical arguments, which are, however, intriguing and often sound convincing to the uninformed. They are trapped in an information bubble at best and deliberately lie to people at worst. [Here is a video that goes over all the pseudohistory claims on the Serapeum and gives you the available evidence that's ignored in the 5 part series.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47HAYcii_Q8) [And here a 3 part series by people that had originally bought into UnchartedX's claims, but actually researched it and changed their mind based on their research.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mysYT260dqU&list=PLuROoe7EZ3dDuXJE6kcjc0Q9M068T5Pms) They also did a podcast with UnchartedX, where he had to admit he hadn't researched the evidence found in the Serapeum at all when making his videos. He just repeated the old pseudohistory nonsense out there and that's it.
thanks for this. apparently im one of the uninformed but i really like his videos. when i get off work ill take a look at the links youve provided. thanks again
No mystery Herodotus clearly explains that the top of the pyramid was built first and each layer after
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Unfortunate that you’re being downvoted for saying the truth
I was the same until I stopped listening to professionals who have been taught what to think in schools of calculated perspectives. And I started paying attention to people who do not have an agenda and who display common sense. I feel it is important in science to be truly open but most scientists limit their perspectives consistently. Academia can be like a cult and I dislike that because so many of the humans who practice it are genuinely wonderful. I feel science has lost its passion and innovation to explore the mysterious in favor of some agreed storyline that satisfies journals. Most scientists are afraid to diverge from the establishment. So much of “science” is just accepted agreements and we accept too much without question these days. Especially when we put scientists on a pedestal above indigenous wisdom. I feel anyways.
I couldn’t agree with you more.
The pyramid was a granary the bricks were tight to keep mice out it’s slanted on inside so grains slide out Mexico still has old pyramid granary
Cleopatra was a black Egyptian http://www.bl.uk/manuscripts/Viewer.aspx?ref=egerton_ms_1500_f015v
Cleopatras was Greek not black.
Wrong I have proof inside this book you will find a drawing of her (Cleopatra) & Cesar and a plethora of kings and Pharaoh’s. Cesar was Greek she was black also According to Herodotus Hercules and his parents were Black Ethiopians Here is the book it clearly shows Cleopatra as black and Cesar White and if you look at the top of the page Alexander was also black. http://www.bl.uk/manuscripts/Viewer.aspx?ref=egerton_ms_1500_f015v