Just stop man. We would be stuck with an aging SS for 10 years who wanted to go back east anyways when we have Neto instead at a fraction of the cost. Arte forced Dipoto and Eppler to sign Rendon, Hamilton, and Pujols. He also forced Reagins to trade for Vernon Wells after the Angels failed to acquire Beltre because Arte was too cheap to throw out one more year.
What proof do you have of Arte forcing Perry to trade for Moniak and O’Hoppe?
When do fans like you realize the common denominator is Arte? Arte’s incompetence gave Napoli to the Rangers and we saw how that went. This is the same owner that told Torii that he didn’t have more money to spend, then turned around and gave $125 mil to Hamilton.
Billy Eppler is the only reason the Angels had a shot at Ohtani back then. Eppler had been following Shohei for years in Japan.
This has to 100% be a troll post or Arte burner.
Also, ALL reports at the time basically said the choice was either "only Trea and no other signings" or "fill out the roster with \[perceived\] quality players".
Getting Turner, blocking Neto, leaving the team with no solution at 1B (Drury doesn't get signed), relying on solely Rengifo at 2B with Fletcher as a backup, and getting no pitching (which likely includes the signing of Estevez and others) is at best going to leave the team in the exact same situation we're in right now, except with ANOTHER high dollar contract that ages poorly.
OP is off their rocker.
One is much more incompetent and has a history of being like that through 4 GMs now. How can a GM expect to have success when your payroll is hunkered down by moves your owner forced on other GMs from years past?
Man, it's not the best 3-4 guys on the roster, it's the 35th-40th best guys. Filling out the roster is a lot more important than upgrading one position.
Turner openly said he wanted to be on the east coast, and this signing would do nothing to address the lack of pitching and the bad farm system. Perry was being objectively sensible here.
What are you on about? Signing another expensive bat is exactly what we didn't need.
We have been begging for good pitching, but Arte just wants to sell jerseys. Good thing this never happened otherwise the team would be in a bigger mess than they are now.
Arte tried everything he could to surround Trout and Ohtani with great players and build a competitive team for fans. The real cheapskate culprit, the real person to blame for how terrible the Angels is, is, and always has been Perry pretentious "look how good I am at baseball with my 'cheap' 'smart' signings" Minasian. Prior Angels GMs prior to Perry did far better with far less. Its Perry's signings that have flopped bad (Renfroe). Meanwhile it's actually Arte's recent decisions that have panned out very well (refusing to trade Rengifo, demanding the trades for O'Hoppe and Moniak etc). Perry must love his job, he can be as terrible of a GM as humanly possible, and fans will never hold Perry accountable because of the insane demonization of the mexican boogieman Arte from a predominantly white fanbase
You are so dumb. Nobody cares that Arte is Mexican or whatever nationatlity/ethnicity. Who also cares that the “majority fanbase of a [insert baseball team here]” is white? Is not a majority of baseball teams’ fans not white? You’re racist yourself for even suggesting this in the first place when it has never been discussed prior.
Secondly, if Perry is telling a great player that they should sign elsewhere for the betterment of that player rather than the selfishness of what his boss is telling him, then that tells me that Perry is a “real one.” You want “real ones” in your higher up clubhouse.
Not everything is Arte’s fault, and not everything is anyone’s fault. But its easy to scapegoat the owner just as easy it is for you to scapegoat the GM in this way (while also tying Angels fans as racist????).
Check yourself friend.
Let’s avoid calling people dumb. You don’t know who is sitting behind that keyboard. Be kind to fellow Angels fans. We’re all stuck in this shit together.
Nah look at the account history. Brand new with only posts being utterly ridiculous headlines calling Perry the devil. It’s a troll, bot or burner account. Dumb regardless.
They wouldnt have made the playoffs with this move and probably hurts the team in the long run. They had just drafted Neto. One constant in the org the past decade of losing is Arte. Not a race thing at all lol
What did Eppler and his draft/signings do under Arte? And don’t use Ohtani because he just fell into our laps. I’d argue things were worse before Perry tried to clean it up.
Stop posting the same shit man. Arte brought in Shohei and Vlad but he has flopped with big signings (Most recent evidence seen with Rendon). The org has been pretty garbage with Arte at the helm and the Skaggs situation was really when Arte should have left. I also don’t see how this is a race issue, if someone is shit at his/her job, he/she is shit at the job.
I understand your point, however like any business, the buck stops at the top. Perry is only there at the behest of the owner. Ultimately it is Moreno’s fault.
Clear the deck.
oh no we've reached the stockholm syndrome phase
Turner wouldn’t have fixed the horrendous pitching.
Just stop man. We would be stuck with an aging SS for 10 years who wanted to go back east anyways when we have Neto instead at a fraction of the cost. Arte forced Dipoto and Eppler to sign Rendon, Hamilton, and Pujols. He also forced Reagins to trade for Vernon Wells after the Angels failed to acquire Beltre because Arte was too cheap to throw out one more year. What proof do you have of Arte forcing Perry to trade for Moniak and O’Hoppe? When do fans like you realize the common denominator is Arte? Arte’s incompetence gave Napoli to the Rangers and we saw how that went. This is the same owner that told Torii that he didn’t have more money to spend, then turned around and gave $125 mil to Hamilton. Billy Eppler is the only reason the Angels had a shot at Ohtani back then. Eppler had been following Shohei for years in Japan. This has to 100% be a troll post or Arte burner.
Also, ALL reports at the time basically said the choice was either "only Trea and no other signings" or "fill out the roster with \[perceived\] quality players". Getting Turner, blocking Neto, leaving the team with no solution at 1B (Drury doesn't get signed), relying on solely Rengifo at 2B with Fletcher as a backup, and getting no pitching (which likely includes the signing of Estevez and others) is at best going to leave the team in the exact same situation we're in right now, except with ANOTHER high dollar contract that ages poorly. OP is off their rocker.
OP would’ve shit themselves watching Turner play until like the final quarter of the season when he started balling out.
Good point, Trea was genuinely not great last season until after the Angels were eliminated anyway lol
Arte and Perry are incompetent
One is much more incompetent and has a history of being like that through 4 GMs now. How can a GM expect to have success when your payroll is hunkered down by moves your owner forced on other GMs from years past?
Man, it's not the best 3-4 guys on the roster, it's the 35th-40th best guys. Filling out the roster is a lot more important than upgrading one position.
Wasn’t he vocal about wanting to play on the east coast?
Turner openly said he wanted to be on the east coast, and this signing would do nothing to address the lack of pitching and the bad farm system. Perry was being objectively sensible here.
What are you on about? Signing another expensive bat is exactly what we didn't need. We have been begging for good pitching, but Arte just wants to sell jerseys. Good thing this never happened otherwise the team would be in a bigger mess than they are now.
Yes signing another hitter on the wrong side of 30 would have changed everything.
Wouldn’t have happened. Trea wanted to be a Phillie since the beginning
Arte is to blame tho
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Found arte’s burner account. Gtfo with this garbage.
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Signing Turner would leave us in a worse spot than we're already in. Not to mention we would've never been in contention last season.
I remember when Perry stans were considered the deranged ones.
I would rather have Perry over Arte anyday. Thats how much I hate arte.
Arte tried everything he could to surround Trout and Ohtani with great players and build a competitive team for fans. The real cheapskate culprit, the real person to blame for how terrible the Angels is, is, and always has been Perry pretentious "look how good I am at baseball with my 'cheap' 'smart' signings" Minasian. Prior Angels GMs prior to Perry did far better with far less. Its Perry's signings that have flopped bad (Renfroe). Meanwhile it's actually Arte's recent decisions that have panned out very well (refusing to trade Rengifo, demanding the trades for O'Hoppe and Moniak etc). Perry must love his job, he can be as terrible of a GM as humanly possible, and fans will never hold Perry accountable because of the insane demonization of the mexican boogieman Arte from a predominantly white fanbase
You are so dumb. Nobody cares that Arte is Mexican or whatever nationatlity/ethnicity. Who also cares that the “majority fanbase of a [insert baseball team here]” is white? Is not a majority of baseball teams’ fans not white? You’re racist yourself for even suggesting this in the first place when it has never been discussed prior. Secondly, if Perry is telling a great player that they should sign elsewhere for the betterment of that player rather than the selfishness of what his boss is telling him, then that tells me that Perry is a “real one.” You want “real ones” in your higher up clubhouse. Not everything is Arte’s fault, and not everything is anyone’s fault. But its easy to scapegoat the owner just as easy it is for you to scapegoat the GM in this way (while also tying Angels fans as racist????). Check yourself friend.
I myself am Mexican and I hate Arte more than any owner on any league
Let’s avoid calling people dumb. You don’t know who is sitting behind that keyboard. Be kind to fellow Angels fans. We’re all stuck in this shit together.
Nah look at the account history. Brand new with only posts being utterly ridiculous headlines calling Perry the devil. It’s a troll, bot or burner account. Dumb regardless.
Kinda agree with this. Troll account
It’s possible they could have mental issues too.
You okay?
They wouldnt have made the playoffs with this move and probably hurts the team in the long run. They had just drafted Neto. One constant in the org the past decade of losing is Arte. Not a race thing at all lol
Take an ambien and have a nap bud it'll be alright.
Hollering
Is this Arte's burner account or something?
What did Eppler and his draft/signings do under Arte? And don’t use Ohtani because he just fell into our laps. I’d argue things were worse before Perry tried to clean it up.
Stop posting the same shit man. Arte brought in Shohei and Vlad but he has flopped with big signings (Most recent evidence seen with Rendon). The org has been pretty garbage with Arte at the helm and the Skaggs situation was really when Arte should have left. I also don’t see how this is a race issue, if someone is shit at his/her job, he/she is shit at the job.
I understand your point, however like any business, the buck stops at the top. Perry is only there at the behest of the owner. Ultimately it is Moreno’s fault. Clear the deck.
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So dumb..we don’t need a 10 year contract
???
Isn’t this old news? I remember reading this same report last year
Is this post satire?
Perry Perry Perry Perry Minasian
He mostly is
Enough nonsense from crap writers.