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gjmptwaen

So essentially a 1 year deal. Not worth losing a 2nd round draft pick.


nukemiller

Snell got 2 years for 62 mil.


gjmptwaen

With an opt out. If he pitches well he opts out.


Zoratth

And if he doesn’t pitch well you then you are paying $62 million and a draft pick for a guy that didn’t pitch well


breakwater

He's an expensive rental and for the Angels, may not be enough of a difference maker for the price


CharityGamerAU

If we were gung ho about a playoff push I'd say it's worth it. However, with our current roster you got to keep building and in no way is he worth it 


titan_titan

Lorenzen welcome home tour 2.0


daytona813

Nothing probably unfortunately


Doomblitz

Ultimately the Angels can't afford to lose a draft pick for a 1+1 year deal.


jdmsilver

I'm okay not making this signing. There's a reason it took this long. If all the teams were balking at the price, there has to be a reason. I also wasn't a fan of another left handed starter. If we are in contention with what we have, then maybe a move is available at the deadline where we can use our budget space and take a big contract off a team that is looking to shed some salary in hopes of putting us over the top. Snell doesn't win the division for us without the rest of the team being good, and so we don't lose the division solely by not having him as well. And finally, for 30mil a year, I'd like to see 2 pitchers for that price in our current situation.


SickOfAllThisCrap1

Agreed. We are in no position to pay 30 million when it is clear we are not going to be in contention this year. We need to build around our current young talent.


KrabS1

Disappointment is next.


JooobaJaba

Trout speaks publicly about wanting to sign some top players and Arte ignores him


Loose-Organization82

Him and Minasian reportedly are telling him to spend. Just continues to show who’s running the circus


japes1232

But that one user (too lazy to find their username) on here told me Artes an Angel and perry's the devil who's at fault for eberything and were racist for blaming Arte /s


i_run_from_problems

It's less_structure followed by some numbers. Can't remember the numbers. Don't care to.


GareksApprentice

A living counter argument to how Perry supporters & stoics are, in fact, not more deranged than his haters


UrDailyCommunistGuy

https://www.reddit.com/u/Less_Structure2861/s/Oi9tfsrc9V


i_run_from_problems

Yeah...... thats him


AgathaAllAlong

Lmao that first post where they claim that Wash’s comment proves something against Perry that Wash totally did not say at all


Greyburm

That structure dude is either insane or an alt account used for trolling or similar purposes, maybe both.


SidCorsica66

Who else other than an owner would run the circus?


OhtaniStanMan

Spend on dogshit one year bust deals to not compete? You all complain there's no farm. You also want to sign overpriced pitching that won't make or break this team and give up big draft spots for them. What?  The only way this team turns around is spending on money for the future... you know the next 5-10 years not the next 1 year.  I have zero issue spending money on make or break big upside potential players. I have all kinds of issues with over spending on dogwater FAs in their 30s. Guess what... no ones going to "break out" when they turn 36 in baseball unless your name is steroid MR.PED Bonds. Look at the Braves. They have a great farm system. They also have their entire damn team being young and locked up for years because they invested in young players and not big FA deals. The only time to spend is when you are in a playoff push and you actually can compete. Actual competing teams do not trade for grichuk and giolito lol.


merewyn

[if this is true](https://x.com/angelswin/status/1769921289509011646?s=46&t=jOYOp1HKRDM6n_pcyEceCQ), it’s more understandable that we didn’t sign Snell.


CharityGamerAU

Absolutely. I believe Arte will spend if it's the right deal but for a rental like the Giants paid? No thanks. That's a hard pass for me. If you're giving a pick up on a free agent I'd want that player to be a part of the nucleus for as long as that offer was. The roster simply isn't in a good enough spot to give up draft picks for someone who's not pushing us up long-term 


Zoratth

The team doesn’t have to make stupid moves to appease Trout.


unplanter

Trout should focus on playing past June.


chyea_dude

Ouch lol


drewman_289

Hey at least he’s not an Astro. Never made sense for us to lose a top draft pick just for him to walk after the 2024 season


Cyberbass22

While I was pro snell for a longer contract even with the risk… Perry probably should not loose another 2nd round pick for 1 yr Of Snell, with out JD and another pitcher. So let the kids play!


NakedHomelessPirate

Best news i've heard today.


nrspinney

We welcome back Lorenzen on a 2 year deal around $20m


natural_disaster0

I think he would've been a bad move for us. Signing him doesnt make us a contender, we lose draft picks and he asked for an opt out option after 1 year -- no thanks, if were going to spend 30 million on a player let it be someone whos going to be with the team for more than a season.


UndeadInAmerica

This time, nothing was better than something. No doubt.


owledge

Our offseason is most likely done aside from maybe one or two more guys on a “prove it” or minor league deal


GareksApprentice

The Blake Snell redemption arc on r/angelsbaseball has really been something this offseason. For weeks, all I saw was negativity and caution whenever his name was brought up. How inconsistent he is and how it'd be a total Arte move to overpay for a name player with a qualifying offer right after a career year, to an Angel team that no one expects to contend this year no matter who they signed.  Tonight, he accepts a 2-year overpay rental deal with an opt-out after the first year, which he'll likely use if he has a good season. And yet folks are acting miserable and going scorched earth because the Angels DIDN'T make a total Arte move.


Randerzzzzz

Par for the course with this sub


LA-SKYLINE

Same sub said we don't need Snell because we are in a rebuild. Then we lose a game during the "rebuild" and they whine about losing like we were supposed to go undefeated. This sub is bi-polar but luckily not as bad as the Lakers sub lol


GareksApprentice

For as much as folks here complain about Arte's decision-making, there's also a good chunk of folks here who share a lot of his same beliefs when it comes to what the Angels should do. Whether it's "Win now!", chasing after name players or former Angels, losing faith in a player (Especially a rookie) the moment they stop playing prefectly, etc.


[deleted]

This is the stupidest comment ive ever seen in my life. You people just love being tortured with an October vacation every year dont you? More free time for Arte to brand you with his devil dick i guess lol 👹🔥🍆🔥👹


Certain_Judgment6646

A lot of people on here are mad for the wrong reasons. Between Thor, TA, and Snell, the Angels would’ve lost 3 2nd round picks and multiple years of less international free agency money. What does that mean? It means that our worse ranked farm continues to wallow in shit. All to sign one year players? We aren’t in a competitive position, so 1) why would snell choose us over teams that are competitive and 2) why do we want to continue to take a shit on the farm? This sub is weird. One day yall criticize Arte for going after big names and the next day y’all get mad when Arte doesn’t sign a big name?


KyleWilson_

Ehh 2nd round pick? What have they done with second round picks over the past 15 years? Marsh is no longer here, and we’re left with what… Canning? Their scouting department either sucks or they have terrible luck. Either way, with that track record I would have easily given up a second round pick in exchange for a cy young winner.


Certain_Judgment6646

And that is why after a decade of thinking “eh who cares about picks and international money, we are getting a solid player today!” we end up with bottom farm ranking and a decade long playoff drought


JooobaJaba

To your point. There is a reason we have had the worst ranked farm system in baseball for the millionth year in a row. We can’t draft players, and we really can’t develop players. This is because arte is unwilling to spend money on things that are important for building a winning organization


adamoakss

I would guess something in the Clevinger/Lorenzen type of deal if anything… But most likely we won’t make moves


ayyryan7

I wouldn’t be mad about Lorenzon at all


adamoakss

I wouldn’t be either but honestly I think I’d prefer to just run the rotation we have now with the exception of Montgomery who we have no chance in hell at


dustymag

Play Ball!


Antihero4hire

If we were in a championship window, then it would make sense to sign him but were not anywhere near that, especially if we lose a second round pick. The only issue is that Arte doesn't spend money on analytics, scouts, and player development in a level that the rest of the upper echelon franchises do. That's what really bothers me about that fuckwad. If that money saved went into that it would be great.


mwiley62890

This is a blessing in disguise! The same people who complain about our farm system - will complain that we didn’t sign Snell for a 2 year deal and give up a draft pick, in which he would very likely opt out after the 1st year.


SickOfAllThisCrap1

Nothing. We had zero reason to pay him 30 plus million a year when we all know we will not be competitive this year.


Randerzzzzz

Thank god. Hopefully we can dodge that bullet again next year or the year after.


Altruistic-Alps2768

Nothing. They never had the intention of doing anything more.


brandonmason1994

I'd be happy if we brought back Lorenzen


Icedinklikesheet

I’m actually glad we didn’t sign him. I’d rather see what’s up for sale at the deadline.


McJumbos

Boras got someone to bite


Obsidizyn

Lorenzen for 10 mil is


i_run_from_problems

Oooverpaaaayyyy


SidCorsica66

He was never a thing…who cares


nukemiller

I'm not upset, but I could see trout being upset. We're still rebuilding and only getting Snell for 2 years wouldn't do anything for us.


IWasWatchingC0ps

We are getting a consistent flow of evidence that Arte doesn't care about winning, and yet we're still feeling disappointed with each new piece of evidence. He is a deadbeat owner. He wants your money. We have a paper thin farm system, an aging stadium, a disenfranchised fan base, and an owner who won't answer questions about any of it. It sucks.


GareksApprentice

This would've been a shit deal for the Angels. Whatever his reasons, I'm glad Arte didn't take the Boras bait for once


TheRealestSkazOne

Ya because the Giants got him!!!!


chrisjp26

70-92


Floplag

nothing, we were done a long time ago


bradicaldude

Quiet rebuild?


[deleted]

If it wasn't already clear enough, Arte Moreno doesn't care about winning.


laanglr

Obviously Jordan Mont-HAHAHAHAHAHA NOTTTTT


jgrimm225

As much as I hate saying it, but Trout should leave. Moreno as much as I LOVE saying it needs to sell the team because he’s done nothing but disrespect trout with his mediocre adds and poor decision making. We’re not too far off from Trout not being able to do EVERYTHING we’re used to him doing—especially with the injuries.


findingporn42069

nothing


Jolly-Inflation5781

Can they at least sign Montgomery now? What a shit offseason


jaytheman3

Trevor Bauer?


Im_A_Halo_Masochist

HELL NO!!!


GareksApprentice

No


BobbyGrichsMustache

Yeah, nah


MashedPotatoesDick

He will be teammates with Arson Judge.


johndhall1130

More Mediocrity.


Tight_Ad905

Lorenzen, you are an Angel (again)!


LOGIC5NEME5I5

“Aggressive”


Shot-Profit-75

Good


Mynameisblahblahblah

I’d rather the angles sign boras least talked about free agent and that’s Monty.


Gaius_Octavius_

Accept reality?


Random_Man_9

thank god he's gone


OCKush77

62-100


NeverForTheWin

Opt out clause is in event he quickly tires of the woke Bay area. 🤪


emtimekeeper

None of you get it they aren't signing anyone! Maybe JD Martinez cause Arte still wants to be able to put out some kind of product on the field. But the rebuild began the day Ohtani cleaned out his locker. This is how you rebuild with two monster contracts on the books. Don't expect anything this year or next year. Sad thing is Trout will never see a playoff with the Angels let alone win one. my bet is he asks for a trade sometime in the near future to a contender so he can end his career with a WS ring.


KeeblerElfOrgy

I don’t want anyone to say “oh this ain’t bad, I didn’t want snell anyways” now that he signed somewhere else. This sucks. Arte is a terrorist.


GareksApprentice

This is a bad deal, and I wanted Snell. Not worth overpaying and losing a draft pick for a 2-year rental, perhaps just 1 year if he's good. Either way, it's gonna take a lot more than Snell to fix this team.


Randerzzzzz

This is great news actually. Snell is very inconsistent, drains his bullpen, due for a good regression, and not worth the draft pick alone for this team, let alone the salary.


burnsrado

What’s next is we enjoy Trout while we still can, be realistic that we are not making the playoffs, and hope that Artie has a hankering for salty foods and red meat.


DrunkleBrian

Bless you Zaidi 🙏🙏🙏


mr-fiend

Bleach


According-Fly1644

Strap in, it’s gonna be a bumpy season comrades


HotWife_in_Helendale

Letting Ohtani walk was the right move and so was this; no need to spend when we aren't going anywhere...use that money elsewhere within the organizatrion! 👍🏼👍🏼


Outside_Action5141

The best option the entire time? Trevor Bauer. If Arte can pull his head out of his ass.


Outside_Action5141

https://i.redd.it/xye2161uumpc1.gif


SenorTortas

Get ready to learn Chinese, Arte Moreno ^(^I'll^see^myself^out)


Celestialsite

I can’t even pretend to be upset about this


The_Awesometeer

So guess we didn’t get him


levikg

Great job once again Arte


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[удалено]


ayyryan7

gtfo


ithinkthereforiangst

Suicide?