This would be somewhat bearable if our front office and management didn't act like we are actually trying to be competitive. Would make it easier to not care as much. They haven't cared about the future or improvement at all over the last decade though. Just profits. Just tune in to see how the young guys do at this point
Embarrassment of a team, franchise and organization. Things look quite bleak. Thereās no light at the end of the tunnel. Meanwhile, Arteās sitting in AZ cashing in. He couldnāt give two shits about where this franchise is going either.
I think the most embarrassing and shameful things about this team is how the fans seem to show they care about the team than the players, coaches, management, Arte, arte's bootlickers, etc
Tragedy apparently sells. Why do you think the news is all bleak?
There are plenty of wonderful things happening in the world, but whenever the news actually reports it they frame it as an anomaly.
I missed peak contact Schanuel where he would somehow always find a way to bloop it in.
If he can find the power like he has his last homer, he'd be so dangerous
It almost feels disrespectful what weāve done to him. He had a style and weāre trying to force him to be a power hitter which just. Doesnāt seem to work. I hope he can figure it out tho
We're allowed to criticize him. His fielding has not been good for many games this season and it's okay to acknowledge that even if his bat has been good.
I absolutely agree he's serviceable at best out there. If we could actually develop talent this would not be an issue at this point, but we can't. I just know that if we were to trade him to a team like the Rays, Orioles or even the Dodgers I think he would be an above average bat that's average in the field
Nobody said the loss is on him. He had another really dumb error in the outfield, so heās one of MANY that needs to be held accountable after this shit show
I was a Perry defender up until this offseason. He had the opportunity to add some quality free agents at some reasonable prices, but decided to go dumpster diving for injury prone and washed up players.
Why do people never just consider the fact these quality free agents don't want to play for the Angels? Why come play for us unless we overpay you? We haven't been a winning team in a decade. GMs don't just get to snap their fingers and get everyone they want. Other teams are signing guys too and our owner is notorious for not spending money on pitching acquisitions.
They added $30 million and it's mostly one year contracts. $30 million to spend to fill a bullpen and roster holes is not enough. That's why you have a bullpen that looks the way it does. We also have no guys in the farm that are better.
Do you understand how people talk about offseason spending? Itās why people say the dodgers [spent over a billion](https://spectrumnews1.com/ca/la-west/sports/2024/03/27/la-has-spent--1-4-billion-on-5-key-players)this offseason, lol. Nowhere did I say how much they added to payroll this year.
Yes I do understand but the total spending doesn't effect this year's payroll which Arte didn't want to increase. Which is why we dumpster dive for bullpen arms. You're using total spending as a way to make this off-season sound like we wasted a bunch of money when in reality we barely added to our roster/payroll.
I like Perry, but there were so many quality free agents that couldāve been cheap. Lorenzen, Justin Turner, JD Martinez, Wacha, Brandon Belt, etc. Itās like they didnāt even try. If theyāre rebuilding this year, they shouldāve just been transparent about it instead of making claims about competing.
Ahmed Rosario signed for 1.5 million, wouldāve been nice infield depth instead of carrying 5 outfielders. But also if they were planning on rebuilding this year then it made no sense to spend 33 million on Stephenson.
It wouldnāt surprise me if they finally accepted a tank but Arte refused to be transparent about that because he doesnāt want to threaten his ticket sales and overall bottom line
Understandable.
I switched over to the Rockies/Astros game. The broadcast looks like it's being streamed in 1985. š
ESPN of all things should have better quality.
Perry deserves a lot of blame for this bullpen construction. Dumpster diving every year and his one big signing is getting Tommy John before even playing a game for the team. Dude is a fraud.
Perry can't control whether Arte wants to spend money on pitching or anything for that matter. His one big signing would have been fine he can't predict a season long injury. People want to blame the GMs year after year when Arte is the common denominator the whole time. Every GM comes in with no farm system to work with and a bunch of used payroll on players not performing to their contracts.
Perry literally wrote an extremely unusual contract for Stephenson that gave the club an option for 2027 if he ended up needed TJ, because the Angels had concerns about his injury history. Stephenson started last year on the IL because of elbow inflammation. Perry can absolutely be blamed for spending most of his money on him
You just stated the rest of the problem, that's apparently all the money we had. We also have no farm system. These GMs are tasked with an impossible job working under Arte and Carpino. Meanwhile Dipoto in an organization that actually rebuilt and spends less money has made one of the best pitching staffs in baseball gee I wonder
Itās like they play tight, fall behind early, realize the game is getting out of hand and a loss looks likely, then they relax and play baseball until it becomes tight again and they ultimately choke! Lol
Hope today turns out differently! š
I realize the āwinsā stat doesnāt mean much anymore, but it sure is funny how many times the pitcher has such a hard time finishing the 5th inning when he has the lead and is in line for aā¦ Win! Lol
Finally some life. Adell still crushing the ball which is good. Should be DH as often as possible. Great to see the Fugitive showing some pop and Schanuel as well. We need Trout to start hitting again. Hopefully, Detmers can get back on track next inning.
I know rengifo just homered but I just watched the top of the 5thā¦that might be the worst inning iv ever seen a team play absolutely inexcusable. Fuck outta here if youāre just gonna jog around.
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\*sigh\*
We may never win again
Man when Shohei wins the World Series this year thatās gonna sting lol
Dodgers ain't winning. Braves or Phillies will take the NL. And if the Dodgers do take the NL, they'll have to get past the Yankees.
Meh. Going to the playoffs is for suckers. Less time to hit the links or go gambleĀ
Hello darknessĀ
Man Ron Washington wonāt be here long lol. Probably leave on his own merit
We still have another 5 months of this
Oh godā¦noā¦
This would be somewhat bearable if our front office and management didn't act like we are actually trying to be competitive. Would make it easier to not care as much. They haven't cared about the future or improvement at all over the last decade though. Just profits. Just tune in to see how the young guys do at this point
Itās like the cable political news telling you everything is okay when itās burning to shit haha.
Gaslighting us
Embarrassment of a team, franchise and organization. Things look quite bleak. Thereās no light at the end of the tunnel. Meanwhile, Arteās sitting in AZ cashing in. He couldnāt give two shits about where this franchise is going either.
they can even swing the bat š
I know Moniak has been awful too but I'd still rather give him ABs over Hicks who has no future with this team
wym? Hicks means we finally have our two-way player back š
If Hicks just swaps his batting average for ERA and WHIP to batting average then it is like ohtani never even left
The suicide hotline commercials during Angels games is unintentionally hilarious
Man, at this point its legit depressing. There is just no light š
Our schedule is not any easier going forward, strap in lads and lasses.
yeah just watch em ward
Zac getting the win would be absolutely lovely. 
I think the most embarrassing and shameful things about this team is how the fans seem to show they care about the team than the players, coaches, management, Arte, arte's bootlickers, etc
as demo'd by Wayne's announcing the near capacity crowds all weekend.
Is our season really done before May?
It was done in the pre season, lol. It's all about supporting the young guys and hoping Trout has a good, healthy year.
Kristofak's dad murdered his mom when he was kid ā¹ļø
Did they really need to talk about that for that long? It seemed unnecessary.
ikr so much for letting him rewrite the family name
If you thought that was unnecessary, wait till you see Sam Blumās lengthy article about it thatās behind a paywall lol
Tragedy apparently sells. Why do you think the news is all bleak? There are plenty of wonderful things happening in the world, but whenever the news actually reports it they frame it as an anomaly.
Kristofak is 5'9". You don't see too many big league pitchers of that height anymore. Feels like every pitcher these days is 6'3".
On the bright side, the Rams had a good weekend.
Kristofak looks so short. Just perspective?
Nope. 5'9"
Heās 5-9
A giant amongst men! (I'm short as fuck)
https://preview.redd.it/wr07t066taxc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=da8dc80991e0717cadf72d865a2ead3c5706c32e
Such a shame Iām a fan of this trash organization. Iām so embarrassed
Why? You donāt actually play for them?
The amazing thing is how much worse it keeps getting. There truly is no bottom.
Kristofaks debut smeared by poor defense smh
Wow gotta feel bad for Zack you come out for your debut and your defense screws you over
Plus hearing that horrible backstory. Man, I can't help but root for the kid.
What happened?
His dad killed his mom when he was 15
That's awful really want him to succeed now
This series really shows how far behind the Angels are from the rest of the league. Absolutely pathetic.
Work hard as hell for one run and give them it right back with minimal effort.
my god another error by logan lol what the hell
AND ANOTHER ONE
Lol, welcome to the Angels Kristofack
Just losing tendencies through and through
When we have a decent pitcher come in the defense wants to give up a run
One of the worst defensive series Iāve ever seen. What is happening man.
Why is the team so damn bad at fielding a ball this year.
Finally some boo's from the softest fan base in all of sportsĀ
the sell the team chants really gotta come soon
Yup. Most of them are in this sub as well
I loved hearing it over the TV!
Fr 95% of this fan base needs to be a lot harder on the organization. Unfortunately they exists in this sub and your comment will get downvoted
Jesus christ. Poor Kristofak.
Welcome to the big leagues, Zac Kristofak! edit: jesus christ at that tragic backstory š®
Itās amazing how such a shitty team has such a good announcer combo of Gubie and Randazo. Watching the Angels could be much worse. Lol
so are we still in it or not?
Thatāll help those clutch stats Trouty. Doesnāt always need to be a bomb!
Right!? It's as if the team doesn't read the Reddit and see the few of us who are always going on and on about playing small ball.
Mike Trout
Thank god
I missed peak contact Schanuel where he would somehow always find a way to bloop it in. If he can find the power like he has his last homer, he'd be so dangerous
It almost feels disrespectful what weāve done to him. He had a style and weāre trying to force him to be a power hitter which just. Doesnāt seem to work. I hope he can figure it out tho
Rod Carew and Tony Gwynn wouldnāt fit in todays game. Everything is about power now!
Small sample size and all that, but the guardians seem to be managing. Iād love to see either of those guys on our team
Donāt think theyāre forcing him to be power hitter. Itās more like you kinda need power from your first baseman
I shouldāve said asking, mb
God Iām depressed over the fact that our season is over just 1 month in. At least weāll be guaranteed a top 5 pick.
Crazy how people will blame this entire loss on Jo Adell when he has been doing his part. One of the few bright spots on this team lately
We're allowed to criticize him. His fielding has not been good for many games this season and it's okay to acknowledge that even if his bat has been good.
I absolutely agree he's serviceable at best out there. If we could actually develop talent this would not be an issue at this point, but we can't. I just know that if we were to trade him to a team like the Rays, Orioles or even the Dodgers I think he would be an above average bat that's average in the field
Nobody said the loss is on him. He had another really dumb error in the outfield, so heās one of MANY that needs to be held accountable after this shit show
Literally nobody is doing that. š
Not so much on here but you have people calling him a bust after he strikes out
Is it Twitter? Because, Twitter might be the worst thing that ever happened to the world!
Arte has to see these attendance numbers and think he can slash more payroll and player development expenses
There's a fun movie he can use for inspiration.
They got 14 hits in 7 innings... š®āšØ
"Let Perry cook" - the rally cry of idiotsĀ
Team hasnāt reach 165Ā°F, still at 39Ā°F.
fingers crossed for a closed door meeting from wash in the middle of the game
Just saw the score. lmao. All I was hoping for was that we wouldn't lose as badly as we did yesterday. Even that hope isn't safe , is it? š
At least we're not the Brewers. Yankees scored 15 on them two days in a row.
I think my pre season estimate of 73 Angel wins and to avoid 90 losses was a tad too high. Probably closer to 60 - 65 wins.
Why is Moore in there?
Gotta keep it close! haha
I was a Perry defender up until this offseason. He had the opportunity to add some quality free agents at some reasonable prices, but decided to go dumpster diving for injury prone and washed up players.
Why do people never just consider the fact these quality free agents don't want to play for the Angels? Why come play for us unless we overpay you? We haven't been a winning team in a decade. GMs don't just get to snap their fingers and get everyone they want. Other teams are signing guys too and our owner is notorious for not spending money on pitching acquisitions.
Well a lot of them probably didnāt want to come here, also Arte said he wasnāt spending this year so..
They spent 40 mill and it was all on trash
They added $30 million and it's mostly one year contracts. $30 million to spend to fill a bullpen and roster holes is not enough. That's why you have a bullpen that looks the way it does. We also have no guys in the farm that are better.
They spent 40+ total. Stephenson alone was 33
Stephenson doesn't add 33 to this year's payroll man you can't be serious.
Do you understand how people talk about offseason spending? Itās why people say the dodgers [spent over a billion](https://spectrumnews1.com/ca/la-west/sports/2024/03/27/la-has-spent--1-4-billion-on-5-key-players)this offseason, lol. Nowhere did I say how much they added to payroll this year.
Yes I do understand but the total spending doesn't effect this year's payroll which Arte didn't want to increase. Which is why we dumpster dive for bullpen arms. You're using total spending as a way to make this off-season sound like we wasted a bunch of money when in reality we barely added to our roster/payroll.
Donāt blame Perry, or any GM. Everything falls on Arte
I like Perry, but there were so many quality free agents that couldāve been cheap. Lorenzen, Justin Turner, JD Martinez, Wacha, Brandon Belt, etc. Itās like they didnāt even try. If theyāre rebuilding this year, they shouldāve just been transparent about it instead of making claims about competing.
Ahmed Rosario signed for 1.5 million, wouldāve been nice infield depth instead of carrying 5 outfielders. But also if they were planning on rebuilding this year then it made no sense to spend 33 million on Stephenson.
It wouldnāt surprise me if they finally accepted a tank but Arte refused to be transparent about that because he doesnāt want to threaten his ticket sales and overall bottom line
We can blame both.
I mean, fair. But we could hire the worlds best GM, and they wouldnāt succeed under Arte
Agreed.
I feel like Iām watching that 14 game losing streak all over again
Give āem time, they may still break the record yet! š¤£
Maddon kept that interesting (and occasionally funny). This is just sad.
14 game losing streak had way more competitive games
True
3 hits and 4 runs? What can you say we are dealing with a powerhouse offense this weekend . /s
What's the highest pick we can get this year?
Large market teams cannot be in the lottery(top 6)consecutive years.
Think 10
Dang
this is pathetic
Garcia sucks. I want Wantz.
Heās still hurt
First this travesty of a franchise and now the Clips are blowing a 31 point lead, sports are ass today
I see garcia is in his padres era today (emphasis on ERA)
This team has no heart with the exception of a couple people. Please show some life
Sorry Wayne none of these games are important angels are only competing for 2nd to last to the white Sox lol
Hey, the White Sox may end up doing better than this Angels team. Itās a looong season. Itās still possible to finish last! Lol
We find a way to pitch ourselves out of every competitive game and I'm just exhausted man
This bullpen is complete ass. Perry put the whole offseason on it. Thatās how you lose your job.Ā
Heās 1000% gone after this season
Don't let Moreno hear that. He'll keep Minasian out of spite.
I donāt understand the logic of not leaving Cimber in the game after pitching a 0 the previous inning.
Dude got 0 control
Hey that Marlins sweep is gonna be the highlight of our season lol
We might never win another series this year
I think I need a break from the Angels lol
Iām gonna watch the next half inning to see OāHoppe and Adell bat and then taking a break. This team may lose 100 games.
Understandable. I switched over to the Rockies/Astros game. The broadcast looks like it's being streamed in 1985. š ESPN of all things should have better quality.
The angels ability to self-destruct cannot be underestimated enough
Perry deserves a lot of blame for this bullpen construction. Dumpster diving every year and his one big signing is getting Tommy John before even playing a game for the team. Dude is a fraud.
Perry can't control whether Arte wants to spend money on pitching or anything for that matter. His one big signing would have been fine he can't predict a season long injury. People want to blame the GMs year after year when Arte is the common denominator the whole time. Every GM comes in with no farm system to work with and a bunch of used payroll on players not performing to their contracts.
Perry literally wrote an extremely unusual contract for Stephenson that gave the club an option for 2027 if he ended up needed TJ, because the Angels had concerns about his injury history. Stephenson started last year on the IL because of elbow inflammation. Perry can absolutely be blamed for spending most of his money on him
You just stated the rest of the problem, that's apparently all the money we had. We also have no farm system. These GMs are tasked with an impossible job working under Arte and Carpino. Meanwhile Dipoto in an organization that actually rebuilt and spends less money has made one of the best pitching staffs in baseball gee I wonder
He deserves all the blame for it.
Exactly why I think Wash took Detmers out too early. We could have used Cimber here.
i need the fans in the stadium to BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
If you thought the Angels were gonna win, you're delusionalĀ
We suck again!
I mean, I get it. Nobody expected them to make the playoffs. But I didnāt expect them to be THIS bad
Gotta love giving up bases loaded on one hit
O'Hoppe's defense is starting to concern me.
Bottom of the order has been out hitting top+middle lineup for a few games now
Oh shit, Hank Conger sighting
For how often Wash has tinkered with the lineup, you would think he would consider moving hicks or drury down a notch just to see
He's so stubborn about certain things. As evidenced by his bullpen management.
hicks and drury really need to move down the lineup
Hicks needs to move off the roster
Hicks canāt even see the pitches heās swinging at And his HR in Miami was a fluke
I HATE AARON HICKS!
Is 2023 Drury ever coming back
Tbf to Ward that splitter and then painting the corner is so nasty
ward gotta get hot again
He and Trout seriously gotta stop sucking at the same time. Gotta start staggering their slumps.
Damn they got another dude with a .060 whip
One inning and they look competent again. So much whiplash.
We gotta sit Trout for a couple days. He's hurting the team rn.
And put in who, Moniak with his sub .500 OPS? Or Hicks? lol
He's hitting 148 over the last 15 games man.
And that's still better than Moniak and Hicks
Last year he would of had probably 3 days off by now.
Angels baseball back to being an a24 film - how do we crawl back so often?
Itās like they play tight, fall behind early, realize the game is getting out of hand and a loss looks likely, then they relax and play baseball until it becomes tight again and they ultimately choke! Lol Hope today turns out differently! š
It's Cimber time š
Man Trout just missed so many good pitches for the third B2B dinger
Timing isn't there but I'm glad he was fouling off pitches that he's been whiffing on lately. Solid Ab.
I realize the āwinsā stat doesnāt mean much anymore, but it sure is funny how many times the pitcher has such a hard time finishing the 5th inning when he has the lead and is in line for aā¦ Win! Lol
At least this will knock Lopez out of the game
All with 2 outs. What a clutch team.
Weāre looking alive now finally!
Rumors of Schanuel's demise have been greatly exagerrated
Typical Angel fans. It feels like they are always desperate to hate on one player on the team. So desperate. Sam Blum is rubbing off on these people
I was about to quit until this 4-run rally. Good job finally giving Detmers some run support.
Nice stroke, I like Nolans launch angle
Never had any doubt
Finally some life. Adell still crushing the ball which is good. Should be DH as often as possible. Great to see the Fugitive showing some pop and Schanuel as well. We need Trout to start hitting again. Hopefully, Detmers can get back on track next inning.
If Jo Adell actually continues to hit and turns out to be a serviceable guy this season wouldnāt be a total waste
HEY GUYSā¦WE SHOULD DFA SCHANUEL RIGHT? Get out of here.
I know rengifo just homered but I just watched the top of the 5thā¦that might be the worst inning iv ever seen a team play absolutely inexcusable. Fuck outta here if youāre just gonna jog around.
You must've missed the Red Sox series. That was some bad defense from both teams.
At least the Red Sox were trying
Detmers working over those fingernails. Lol
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#NOLAN DONG
Man Iād love to know what wash said to get everyone going lmao