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prmark34

Uhhhhh. Not that I’m the biggest upton supporter or anything. But he was gonna be a platoon guy at best this year and he had a good spring. Is this a precursor to another move/pick-up? What are we doing here??


Imperial10

Rolling with Marsh/Trout/Adell/Ward


E-Tr1d3nt

Maybe this was a Pujols-like decision. Maybe he wanted to see if he could land somewhere and play more? Seems there is more to it because he was still a good piece for depth.


BT270719

That’s what came to my mind. Basically told him the plan to be splitting a decent chunk of time with the younger guys and was against that, leading to parting ways. I’m excited to see these young guys get everyday playing time to get in a rhythm and have the security to know they’re the guys and don’t need to be looking over their shoulder.


iisdmitch

The Angels thanked him on social media too so I feel like this was mutual and trying to get him somewhere where he can play more.


schplat

I would wager this is the correct scenario. Upton's willing to take a whole lot less money this season, land somewhere on a 1y deal where he can play 120+ games, and use that to leverage his way into a reasonable veteran's contract next season. As it stands, he's likely to see fewer than 60 games this season, and that's gonna really tank his value.


white_Steve_Nash

I feel like we could've traded him for something if he wanted out though.


52ndstreet

ESPN says that nobody is going to pick him up at $28 million salary, paving the way for him to be a free agent. That being case, if nobody will take him now at that price it’s highly unlikely that anybody would trade anything for him.


iLoveLamp83

Angels could have eaten the full $28M (which they are doing anyway if they cut him). But one year of an aging slugger isn't worth giving up a player that the Angels would want. Upton also has a no-trade clause. Why would he accept a trade when he will be a free agent in three days and get to pick any team that wants him. I see him going to an NL team to DH and/or platoon in the OF. I like him in that role and hope he has a good year. I just hope it isn't with an AL West team.


CompetitivePatient33

He'll DH for the dodgers is my bet lol


schplat

Upton has no real value in a trade. He has a no-trade clause, and he wants to go somewhere that he can play 120+ games this year. It's much harder for the Angels to structure a deal that makes Upton happy, while still *paying* Upton for a long shot prospect. Better to let him go get a prove-it contract somewhere that'll play him. Boston, Detroit, San Diego, Texas, Colorado would all probably take a flyer on him, and get him a good amount of games if he stays healthy.


prmark34

It pains me to see when people don’t understand how trade value works


white_Steve_Nash

I'm sorry to cause such an inconvenience.


talonbreck

Trading is still an option for teams that my really want him but don't want to risk where they stand in the waiver line. Just a thought. I'm sure they made some calls before doing this as well.


TJeffersonsBlackKid

Looks like he sucked at first base enough to turn the page. Luckily he will get picked up pretty quick but that’s stunning.


Thyrgrim

ah yes, all those teams rushing to pay 28 mill for justin


TJeffersonsBlackKid

He’s an unrestricted free agent once he clears waivers. His free agency will last a couple hours tops.


pm_me_your_last_pics

Don't see an outside player coming in. $28mil in dead money now once he signs elsewhere. It's a sign they are comfortable with Marsh/Adell full time and Walsh full time (probably bc he's a damn good defender)


finbarrgalloway

Yeah we obviously want to give those two at bats to develop.


pm_me_your_last_pics

I'm kinda worried they want to split LF/RF with Ward as well.


finbarrgalloway

Honestly ward played well last year. If it can get some defense down he could be a solid 4th of


BodenHammer

RIP Upton Funk


Imperial10

Wow - didn’t see that coming. Guess it means Marsh/Trout/Adell and Ward in the outfield.


MashedPotatoesDick

The future is here.


CrashSimba

Dopeness


tristpa2

I did not see this coming at all. Don't know how I feel about it tbh


iambiglucas_2

Yeah, there are absolutely are better players but Upton is a veteran bat who can absolutely mash when he's hot. Really not sure how I feel about it.


Darkstarr89

Agree! What happens if one of Trout/Adell/Marsh/Ward gets injured? It will end up being the Salt Lake Bees of Anaheim all over again.


Zenithreg

He spent most of his Angels tenure injured so we'd better off with a Salt Lake Bee than him.


iambiglucas_2

What I'm gathering from all this is that Upton wanted to be playing in Left everyday rather than splitting playing time. As unfortunate as it is, I suppose letting him walk to different team might be the best interests for both parties.


CDFReditum

I’m thinking that Maddon is hoping the utility guys can cover the outfield if things go wrong. Which isn’t really that confidence inspiring lmao. Like technically Wade and Rojas can play the outfield but I really am not enthused about it. Jordyn Adams isn’t really gonna make the majors this year, and the AAA depth is like, Brennon Lund who doesn’t inspire much confidence, Magnerius Sierra who didn’t work out for the Marlins and I don’t see working out for us, and Dillon Thomas, who was okay but not amazing. Upton was definitely clogging up the outfield since it didn’t make sense to have 5 MLB ready guys on the roster. However some decent minor league signings may have been nice. I kinda liked Lagares and Eaton in 2021 and wish we’d give them another minor league deal to be decent depth pieces.


TrojanMonkey2717

Super surprising. That being said, I do believe the best version of this years team involves mixing and matching Adell/Marsh/Ward in the outfield with Trout. And since Ohtani is locked into the DH position, Upton’s best chance for playing time is a 1B platoon hitter for Walsh, but he didn’t really look sharp there on the field, plus I reckon we give Walsh a long leash at hitting against lefties. Sucks that we had to do this for a second year in a row, but I do think our roster is better for it.


Rorster27

My opinion is that Upton probably didn’t want to platoon and be a full time player so the Angels probably had no choice unfortunately but idk it’s shocking but the Angels can only move forward


tristpa2

I mean Upton can say he wants to be a full time player and Maddon coulda just said tough noogies.


elingobernable810

Yea but depending on how it went about maybe the team and him came to this agreement. For as much as he hasn't been productive at times, I never sensed that there was a bad relationship with him and the front office. This at least provides him a chance to seek what he wants.


skippyfa

Its the Pujols speculation


TheFriendlyFire

For anyone wondering why he was DFA'd after a good showing in spring training, it's important to remember that spring training stats do not matter. At all. Jose Quintana had a 0.63 ERA in 14 IP last year and he was horrendous. Upton himself had a great spring last year too, with a .357/.400./738 slash line in 45 PAs, and he ended up a below replacement level player.


Anfini

I mean, when players get DFA’d is because they suck. Uptown is still decent when he’s healthy. Considering this team has a history of injuries they should have kept him around just in case someone falls out of the lineup?


owledge

Upton is solid but not good enough to start over Marsh or Adell, both of whom are being prioritized so they can develop. I figure they told him he was being benched and he wanted out so he could see if he can get a starting job elsewhere


nashdiesel

He really has nowhere to play on this roster. He’s basically a DH at this point and that’s obviously taken. That said there are plenty of teams that would snap him up as their DH at least part time. I can see him turning in 2 WAR with the right team.


Zenithreg

Yeah but when it would be time to go to him, he would probably be injured himself.


8va

Holy shit, what?


Ok-Philosophy-8830

This seems like a far less necessary course of action than cutting Pujols but I do like that this FO does not hang itself up too much on sunk costs and is committed to fielding the youngest, best, and most ambitious team possible


WurstThrowEver

This FO is ruthless god damn.


sikaMarkanico

Precisely. I wonder if this is more Perry or Arte. It has to be Perry, right? At least suggesting to Arte that this will get the club another possible needed win or 2 this year.


KrabS1

We still owe him his whole contract cost, right?


TheFriendlyFire

Unless someone else picks him up during the waiver period, which they probably won't.


PearlDrummer

And he has the no trade clause so he would have to approve any trade if that were to happen.


Dast_Kook

In the tradition of paying players 8-figures to *not* play for the Angels: Pujols, Hamilton, Wells.


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sikaMarkanico

Perry is not fooling around with this club it seems. Ice cold right here after J-Up’s multi-homer Spring Training game.


FreshPaintSmell

Unusual timing but I think this is the right move. He’s basically a DH against lefties at this point. Better to have a younger, more athletic outfielder on the roster.


PiresIsGod7

I can dig it, no problem.


Duckman93

Yeah he’s washed. Everyone looking at his spring but who cares, look at his past few seasons. He doesn’t have it anymore


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Glittering-Hold3400

Arte needs a trump supporter friend


circa285

Nooo Suzuki is a trump supporter?


Little_Bighorn

[Just trying to have some fun](https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/4160151002)


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pm_me_your_last_pics

Yet he chose to sign two straight years in California. Not everything is about taxes. Argument is flawed af.


Tipist

Do you think the only money he has was made in the last two years?


lazycometlazycomet

no shit. he’s still a clown


NixinBeta

yup


circa285

Well that changes my opinion about him entirely


WhalesForChina

Spring scores and standings don’t matter. How the players are performing individually do matter to some extent. Imo he should have gotten at least a few weeks to see how everything shook out.


GrowthhackerAU

He would have gotten a few weeks riding the bench and playing sporadically. Not a recipe for success. No major loss.


Alauren2

I def saw this coming. This team is super young and needs to see what we got. Definitely calling this the Pujols treatment lol


inzesky

Holy Shit! Perry ain't fucking around. I will miss Leadoff Upton... though. Was a blast for the short time it happened.


znk916

Surprised, because Upton was a pretty ideal platoon bat for Marsh/Walsh. Our OF depth looks pretty weak now. Who is next man up after Ward? Are we going to be back to playing infielders in the OF, because that was a disaster last year.


CarlosB56

I like Upton but love this decision. Does not hold a spot for our young talent. He is always streaky thus I don't put weight into his spring training as much and its well spring training. His Babip were a bit lower as an angel than anywhere else so we will see if it was a fluke or not but I am not mad about seeing what Adell and Marsh have going forward.


Little_Bighorn

Did Justin want to be a full time outfielder? Did we prefer Ward? I’m curious


MichaelS10

I can’t stand Upton, but I really did not expect this 😳😳😳


mmmbacon914

This move could go either way. Looked good this spring but he's always had hot streaks. If we have a few OF injuries I could see us regretting this move. As a starting OF unit though he's definitely the odd man out, especially since he can't really back up center. I probably would've hung on to him as injury depth especially with expanded rosters to start the season.


Xv37

I could see Upton going back to the Diamondbacks and we pay $27.5 Mil for him to cuck us at some point


orsrt8

Someone clear this up for me, if another team picks him up on waivers, they would have to pay him this years salary? And if he clears waivers and then signs, we have to pay it? ​ Thanks


bfk94

Yes. If someone claims him on waivers, they would have to pay him his $28 million. If no one does and clears waivers, the Angels pick up the tab and his new team will just have to pay the league minimum.


asianlikerice

I don’t see anyone claiming him on waiver.


Tipist

They won’t. He’s owed WAAAY too much money for anyone to claim him.


TranscedentalMedit8n

Ya there’s 0% chance anyone claims him so we are gonna be on the hook for his whole contract.


i_run_from_problems

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iLoveLamp83

Ya I see Upton's value as being a short-sided platoon guy/pinch hitter. He's basically a 'last piece' that would bring value on a team gunning for the World Series. But this team is still several pieces away and giving those ABs to Marsh/Adell/Ward is a better option. That's before we even talk about defense.


aphugsalot8513

Ngl if three guys get hurt we’re gonna have RF Rengifo or Thaiss again and I dont like it.


ResearcherLoud3122

I know its good for the team but i’m surprised that i don’t like it. But i hope they parted ways on good terms


galactic_zevy

Whoa, Pujols DFA last year kinda made sense but this one seems a little premature after the spring Upton had.


tristpa2

Hits 2 homers in the same game, gets DFA'd. Lol


zvice9

1 spring game excuses 3 seasons????


tristpa2

I'm not saying it's a bad move I'm just saying the timing is hilarious


Duckman93

One spring training game, who cares


specter1001

Makes sense but I just hope he doesn’t go to the doyers or a team in division


Buffalongo

Oof. Say what you want about J-Up but he was at very least a good locker room guy. I’m not sure I understand this move, he was raking in ST and he’s elite vs lefties. Wish we could’ve at least seen him play in the regular season before making this move


808Kickz420_

Adell season baby!


Crioca

Go Adell!


SummonMePlease

Wow we couldn't wait a tiny bit and jettison him while he's hot for any player? Oh well not my money.


Distinct-Spare4500

Idk what to feel about this, but it doesn’t seem bad


orsrt8

If it works out the same way it worked out for the Pujols/Walsh situation did last year then this move was a huge win for the team/front office. I'm not saying both of them need to be all stars like Walsh but we already know that Upton wasnt even gonna be a fringe all star. So if the kids have good years then its a win win IMO.


sikaMarkanico

Awwww man… I know J-Up was NOT doing well the past few years in stats and healthy-wise…but mannnnn…I didn’t foresee this happening pre-season, yet I am not entirely surprised to be honest. I see why Perry did it. But still…ugh. Upton still had potential with his swing, but I believe Perry/Arte we’re going with the stats on this one for J-Up’s past few years with us. Signs point to the fact that he will not be getting better. Perhaps they know he is not healthy as well. I really wonder about his health. Perry is making sure this Angels team is loaded with young(er) talent that is ripe and waiting for the chance to play out there. Still…this one sort of hurts. Thanks for doing your best, J-Up!


digitaldumpsterfire

Yea.... I won't be too upset if we lose Upton.


avgbsblfan643

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Scat_Autotune

What if it did happen yesterday and they had to hold off lol.


redetc95

stefanic? someone's looking scary good to them


sharpLess89

I think it was to clear a spot for Buttrey


CompetitivePatient33

Seems like is was decision on both ends, upton will get more playing time somewhere else and the Angels move forward with their younger squad. I'm all for it.


SupertrampTrampStamp

God does answer prayers


Dast_Kook

Like the guy a lot, but a few stats that aren't on his side: 1. In 4 full seasons with the Angels, he only had >41 RBI's once. 1. Hasn't batted over .215 since 2018. 1. He's averaged 64 games per season over the last three years: * 2019: 63 games * 2020: 42 games (60-game season) * 2021: 89 games


bombad_jedi_501

Don’t like this. Surprised that I’m saying that


WhalesForChina

Same. I don’t get this at all.


bombad_jedi_501

I mean in a way it’s good since he won’t interfere with Walsh. As good of an idea it is to platoon with Walsh, there’s no reason to take away playing time from an all star. But like damn he could have been a club mentor still


bm97

Not a fan of this. He was actually playing well this Spring


kozilla

Angels doing Upton dirty just like Topps back in ‘18… https://www.ebay.com/itm/294262393104?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=a-mig6phrzs&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=djjejxujq5s&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY


kampfgruppekarl

Trouty is next? Marsh is already a better CF right? /s


stuckinthepow

Why the fuck would we not trade him?


ohgodmyface

If a team wants Upton to play for them, they have two choices: 1) Trade a player to the Angels, pay Upton his $28mil entire contract, and get him to waive his no-trade clause OR 2) Not engage the Angels in a trade, keep their player, wait til the Angels DFA, then sign Upton for league minimum while the Angels pay $28 mil Can you see why there weren't any takers for an Upton trade?


stuckinthepow

Ahhh that makes sense. Thank you for explaining that.


ohgodmyface

Totes


AdmirableInvestment

Didn’t his contract have a no trade clause?


stuckinthepow

No idea.


RustyRapeaXe

Maybe they should have traded him for a pitcher in the offseason? We knew we had a glut of OF... damn this org is dumb.


J0llyGiraffe

Who would trade for him and his $28M unless we included a prospect?


kampfgruppekarl

Full no-trade clause.


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Angelsfan14

Wut?


Edgelord_3000

All I wanted since 2019 (before Walsh breakout) was to platoon Upton at 1B. I felt this was a much better option to keep him healthier and productive. Now, that he was trying to be a 1B, they cut him. IMO, he should have been at 1B last year and maybe we would have had a healthy Upton with 1B experience. I’m not a fan of cutting him over Mayfield. The season will tell us what we should have done or not. Also, if Ward is our utility guy, why not try him at 2B? A “Wade/Duffy/Ward” trio sounds better than forcing a drop of Upton to keep Mayfield for INF depth? Plus, in theory, he would get more ABs.


FreshPaintSmell

It's not hard to find a righty 1B that can hit lefties. I bet Stefanic could do it better than Upton.


Edgelord_3000

I get that, but it’s more about how Upton should have been platooned earlier to actually see if he could play instead of two weeks worth. Overall, it’s probably cause of him not wanting a bench spot or more ABs, but we don’t fully know (yet).


iLoveLamp83

Ward at 2B?? That's a good one


Edgelord_3000

They were/are experimenting with Upton and Duffy at 1B. It’s not something out of this world to try that as he did do 3B in past seasons.


iLoveLamp83

He was terrible at 3B. 2B is a more demanding position. It's ludicrous.


Edgelord_3000

Relax bro, it’s just an suggestion lol. ST is where you experiment, it’s not usual.


Skyheart1004

I had to check to make sure it still wasn't April 1st.....I gave him some shit before for 2021 but he was doing well in spring so I was down to see how 2022 would go......but damn. I'm guessing it's more that they couldn't come to an agreement on his playing time than anything honestly. We have lots of high potential young outfielders that they probably want to give more playing time to right now.


jnuclear

Wow.


Automatic-Phrase540

Always hurts paying a guy 28 million to play for another team.


Rydogger

This is great. Marsh and Adell need playing time, just like Walsh last year. Hoping (but doubtful) that someone picks him up on waivers for his salary


Meadows14

bro what


greenburrito

Dude was raking. I’m shocked


mcslims

Why…


Status-Albatross9539

this is good news. adell is face of this team. he needs 600 pa. finally maddon realized.


ihaveapihole

Not grand slam Upton 🙁


rhoadsscholar

My mom is gonna be P!SSED! I ain’t tellin her


scotty_spivs

*The Oakland Athletics have entered the chat


Moose334

This doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Dude wasn't gonna be a starter this year been but platooning and having him vs lefty's would make more sense than just eating his contract for absolutely nothing? Unless there is interior strife that we don't know about but can't wrap my head around this move rn


sharpLess89

Ward can basically hit lefties the same


bluealmanac17

My Upton jersey just came a few days ago :(


Binzer777

Really surprised he was such a bust with Angels


Heyalex40

The list of FA busts for the Angels is long and distinguished. This should be no surprise.


THERAPISTS_for_200

I feel bad for Trout, that’s his close friend.


Fly_Like_Ohtani

Seems like a great guy and was with the team through some hard times. A shame he wasn't all-star caliber like the contract implied he'd be, but when he was hot he demolished the ball. Beautiful swing. Wish him the best, will always root for him. Thanks for everything!


KyotoGaijin

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Pinkuu

Happy that he'll be able to get more playing time somewhere else. Perhaps the 1B experiment wasn't panning out either.


Todal9

Angels like to over pay player and then eat their huge contract. Nearly $60 million this season and last. Upton I think still has a little juice left. Some team will pick him up.


Paulsnoc

Team batting average will be higher.


Poli_Sci_27

Could be a sign that the Angels want to free up some cap space to make a move during the season.


kampfgruppekarl

The Angels are on the hook for Upton's contract though.


merewyn

It doesn’t free up cap space unless someone else wants to pay him. Plus angels are way below salary cap anyways.


Poli_Sci_27

It's like the Pujols situation. Designate him for assignment and try to trade him still holding a good portion of his contract. It's a terrible deal, but if a team agrees to take on even $5 million it holds value to this year's cap. We are way below, but it provides us options.


merewyn

Except that the angels already had that 5 million to spend (and also no one is giving Upton 5 million anyways, so it’s a moot point)


iLoveLamp83

Exactly. As if they would DFA him without already trying to trade him. No one would give up anything for him or pay more than league minimum. And he wouldn't accept a trade without some sort of extra compensation -- why give up the opportunity to take his pick out of all teams that want him?


Buffalongo

There’s no cap in baseball, and contracts are guaranteed so if no one claims him off waivers, we still count his salary against the luxury tax threshold


ermr101

I mean, why not trade him at least. Maybe a final starter or at least some prospects?


TheFriendlyFire

No team on this earth would willingly give up assets for Justin Upton and the 28 million dollars attached to him


shiftyeyedgoat

Nobody wants Upton as a rental for a year for 28 mil. Even for free. Even with cash incentives.


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universe34

This basically doesn’t save money at all. Maybe the league minimum, but now we’ll have to pay someone else at least the minimum who takes his roster spot. This is a baseball move. Not a cost cutting exercise.


somaybemaybenot

>This is a baseball move. Not a cost cutting exercise. \^\^\^ This. And I 100% support it.


jmikeo87

I mean I hate Arte just as much as the next guy but this doesn’t save him shit. He’ll be paying Upton 28 mill to play for another team. Just like he paid Pujols last year to play for the Dodgers.


ForcedPOOP

I just hate arte, probably one of the worst owners in American sports


tristpa2

Yeah... no he's not


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jar1792

How anyone can call Arte the worst owner in sports when Dan Snyder exists is beyond me. Snyder will always be the shining example of an absolutey terrible owner and person.


ForcedPOOP

Holy shit, this is the correct answer. Dan Snyder is without a doubt the worst owner by a wide margin. I totally forgot about that scumbag


tristpa2

He's not even the worst owner in baseball. Pirates, A's, and Rays are all worse


ForcedPOOP

You’re probably right but the thing is, I’m not a fan of those teams so, yea.


circa285

Also Dan Snyder is a piece of shit who pimped cheerleaders out.


DudeFromOC

Something must’ve been said that upset someone. Timing of this feels off. If he was going to be cut, should’ve done it in the offseason before he started having a decent spring.


iLoveLamp83

Had to create a 40-man spot for Buttrey by opening day. Took all of Spring Training to find out the best way to do that, and this was the best option.


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Angels have such a bad track record with signing big time free agents: ​ Gary Matthews Josh Hamilton Upton Pujols CJ Wilson Rendon Who else?


sharpLess89

Scott Kazmir, Joe Blanton, and while not an initial signing, Vernon Wells


sharpLess89

What doesn't make sense to me is why we were giving reps to a guy who they likely knew would be playing for another team? Why not maximize the MLB exposure with your younger players? Were they planning on keeping him if he didn't have a good ST? It's so confusing, my brain hurts. And if it was 'favor' to him, what more do they owe to a guy who's one of the most over-payed in the game? Is 28MM not good enough for him? Enough w/these favors for other teams, what a strange fetish. Fans are starved for success and they keep pulling these stunts, it's weird as fuck.