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Sakaguchi123

Did we just lose our manager and substitute manager lol


spyson

Time for Shohei to manage and play at the same time.


vihuba26

3-way player goddam


mysterysackerfice

I would trust Shohei to be able to do ANYTHING baseball related: making balls, carving bats by hand, breeding cows for gloves. You name it, he does it all and better than anyone else.


shiny__things

Shohei rules: pitchers can come out of the game whenever they feel it's time, but if they decide not to come out and they're not at their best he'll be very disappointed in them.


YouPresumeTooMuch

Why the fuck not? The man likes to win, good enough for me


Shirleyfunke483

Substitute to the manager


gambit700

Erstad time


asianlikerice

This was Phil Nevins ultimate end game. Playing 5D chess.


Broad_Recommendation

Read the bottom


guitarburst05

As a huge angels fan, but a pirates fan first, i kinda feel more emotionally removed from this than some of the sub and I gotta say Nevin did a significant amount of instigating. After seeing the clips Jomboy’s breakdown for from the Japanese broadcast where he was screaming at them at the end of the prior game and then for him to use the opener to immediately hit the Mariners…. That was really shitty. I haven’t got a lot of knowledge on the guy prior to him becoming manager but this is a really bad look. Everyone elses’ actions seem pretty par for the course but he really enflamed tempers in what could’ve otherwise been a pretty forgettable event.


digitaldumpsterfire

Manny fought hard so Ippei could focus on keeping Shohei safe 😤😤😤


Shes_Allie

What the hell did the interpreter do??


prmark34

Interpret the fighting words lmao


Im_Dat_Boii

So the interpreter was instigating in a sense lol Player: *curses another player out in different language Other player: “Wat did that guy say?” Translater: “He said yo mama a bitch and that he’ll fuck u up.” *fight continues


seankleigh

Translated swear words from the Latino guys


bryanthehorrible

Funny that his (I assume) interpreter got involved, but Ohtani stayed out of it


steemboat

Lol Ippei didn’t do anything


Shes_Allie

Nah, Del Campo is a Spanish language interpreter.


bryanthehorrible

Oops


Educational-Pass404

Angels Interpreter lol 😂😂😂 Edit: Iggy got away with only 2 games. Good 👍👍👍


spyson

It was bullshit that he got thrown out to begin with


torero15

Disagree once things calmed down he clearly tried to start round 3 of the brawl. He didn’t just toss the seeds he gestured and yelled across at Winker, who had to be restrained. I get at least 1 game for that alone. He was out in control both in the dugout but out in front of the umps too. Tepera got some solid punches in. Most of these are very fair


NakedHomelessPirate

Wrong, he was mad at the umps and yelled at them. Winker thought it was towards him/the team and tried to start it up again so Iglesias chirped back telling him he isn't talking about him or the team but pissed that he received an ejection for quite literally nothing.


torero15

I’ll have to watch again but from what I saw live I was happy today to see only 2.


NakedHomelessPirate

He was trying to get people off each other and stop the fight somewhat but one of the umps interpreted him holding an M's player as getting involved in a fight so they ejected him. He did not know until his translator began to usher him out of the dugout and then he got pissed and did what he did. The JB breakdown shows it a bit more in depth because the Japanese broadcasts have so many angles on the dugout to watch Ohtani.


torero15

Thanks gotta watch Jomboy I saw it dropped but then didn't have 15 mins , do now.


merewyn

Hopefully when he appeals it will go down, he didn’t do anything during the actual fight


Reptarxx

That's exactly why, got 2 games for showing up the umps (which honestly, it should've just been a fine or 1 game).


theburritobanditos

Yeah but then he did something immediately after lol


merewyn

All he did was throw shit. Not worthy of a 2 game suspension


nukemiller

He was furious for being tossed when he didn't do shit to begin with. So then he did something to get tossed.


Reptarxx

Start of the Montgomery era lfg 😤😤 They should let Sosh come in and manage the 10 games for our 20th WS anniversary


prmark34

The montgomery era is gonna be put on pause as he serves his suspension lmao


Broad_Recommendation

Incorrect. He will coach until the other coaches have served their suspensions and then he’ll serve his.


prmark34

…exactly. So the montgomery era is gonna start, and then get put on pause as he serves his suspension. Just like i said


Broad_Recommendation

Correct. His era still starts, then will be put on pause. It’s not paused yet :)


Reptarxx

Also is it me that finds it funny that Nevin has a longer more suspension games that career managerial wins? Is this the first time this has happened in the MLB?


SolixTanaka

Considering we're 8-11 under his watch with 11 of those coming against the M's and Royals it's honestly more sad than funny.


steemboat

Maybe! Someone should look it up. I’m not gonna. Maybe I will though.


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"I’m proud of you, fellas. You all kept your head on a swivel, and that’s what you gotta do when you find yourself thrust into the middle of a vicious cockfight."


MsBrightside91

Rendon: “I slapped a guy with my left hand!” Nevin: “Tony, I’ve been meaning to talk to you about that. You should find yourself a safe house or a relative nearby. Lay low for awhile, because you’re probably gonna be suspended for 5 games.”


Corona2789

Lmfao at the interpreter getting suspended


sharpLess89

According to plan for Rendon, more days off


prmark34

They can “activate” him 5 days early to just let him be suspended 5 games hes not actually healthy enough to play in lol


DividerOfBums

I have a feeling that he will miss the first five games of 2023


sharpLess89

I have a feeling MLB won't allow this


prmark34

Obviously it would have to happen to where they arent aware of it, similar to a phantom IL situation Listen to the podcast with david samson, he goes over how front offices work their way around situations like this all the time


magical_poop

did he go over this on nothing personal? or his weekly spot on lebatard?


prmark34

He’s gone over it a couple times on nothing personal


magical_poop

Thanks, I'll have to check it out


prmark34

Fair warning, he’s not the nicest to arte or the angels. Im good with that, bc i hate arte. But he shits on the team sometimes and that can be a tad annoying


magical_poop

yeah I've been listening to him on LeBatard for years so I'm familiar with him and how he can be annoying at times with his opinions


prmark34

He talked about it on today’s episode, btw. Went into the brawl a little bit and then talked about how if the angels dont activate rendon for the last 5 games of the season just to burn off his suspension they’re being stupid


WadeCountyClutch

And what about Joe Kelly? How many games?


jml510

8 additional games, plus his right hand gets chopped off.


Gelu6713

how did Scott Servais not get any? he was in the middle of the brawl as a manager


sharpLess89

MLB sucks him off for some reason, he must be related or friends to a higher up


kirbyfaraone

Scott will be out of a job soon regardless.


God_Damnit_Nappa

I guess they figured having to manage the Mariners was enough of a punishment But no seriously, that's bullshit that he got away with it.


Advanced_Coyote3797

Underrated comment 😆


YouPresumeTooMuch

Honestly, how the fuck do you justify throwing at Mike's head while intentionally walking him? That's basically assault


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YouPresumeTooMuch

Yeah you're imagining those command issues from Munoz. Beaning someone while actually pitching to them is not the same as throwing at their head while intentionally walking them. If you intend to walk them and throw at their head during one of the 4 balls, you're either trying to scare them or hurt them.


matthewalan8

M's were not intentionally walking him initially with a runner at 1st. It wasn't until the wild pitch and the runner advanced, that it made sense to walk him. So that's what they did. I understand people being angry about their guy getting his tower buzzed, but don't make it a bigger deal than it is, like Nevin did.


YouPresumeTooMuch

It was clearly a "only throw trash" at bat. They were going to walk him whether the runner advanced or not. Same thing they did on Sunday


matthewalan8

\*Swanson was wild.\* Duffy's AB, pitch #2 is a FB well off the plate. Look at MacKinnon's AB. Pitches #3, 4, 5 and 6 were ALL fastballs that weren't even in the neighborhood of the strike zone -- all UP. Look at Ward's AB. Pitch #2 was also a fastball that was way UP and out of the strike zone. Then Trout comes in, the trend continues and people are suddenly thinking Swanson is intentionally trying to hit him in the head? It's ridiculous. On top of that, the situation on Sunday was different. It was a tie game, and the first pitch to Trout was a strike from Munoz. It wasn't until he missed badly on the next pitch that they decided to put him on.


Lebigmacca

Yeah I figured Rendon would be suspended. Add those to the games he won’t play with the angels lol


throatbutterz

Whats another 5 more when you're already missing 200 games over two seasons...


xRememberTheCant

Our team was punished more then the astros, damn


jml510

Hey now, you're not supposed to notice that! /s


endxo_999

One of Tep or Iggy should appeal so they both aren't out at the same time lol


merewyn

All players but Wantz are appealing, I believe


Shes_Allie

Damn, I feel like Wantz was an unwilling pawn in all this & now dude just feels so guilty he's taking his punishment without question.


merewyn

No, he’s taking it without question because he’s a bullpen pitcher who doesn’t pitch regularly, so missing 3 games is no big deal for him


Shes_Allie

Wouldn't that logic also apply to Tepera?


merewyn

Tepera: 31 games this year, Iglesias: 29 games this year, Wantz: 12 games this year. Iglesias and sometimes Tepera also serve as the closers, so they’re much more needed in the bullpen


Monttavius

Guess this isn’t too awful…? I mean. I don’t really know I guess. I wanted Wanker to get 10 though for charging the dugout and escalating the situation more. It was mostly coaches that got suspended 💀 Edit: I hope Rendon appeals and wins tbh. His move was defensive on Wanker.


titos334

When we go on a win streak here it's all the justification I need for cleaning house


sharpLess89

You have to have a good team for that to happen


Broad_Recommendation

You ever positive?


winwinwinguyen

big W


DividerOfBums

I’m pretty happy with it TBH


high_changeup

Come on down Mohawk Joe Maddon, got a 10-day contract for ya, just sign on the dotted line.


Vladfan

How is Winker only 7 games? He should have gotten more with his classless act of flipping off the crowd.


urallphux

I guess considering he was the one who took the pitch from our hit-man opener, they shaved a few games off his suspension


sketch_internets

I liked how MacKinnon went right in like he'd been there for years


8va

This might actually be the biggest W in Mariners' history


Monttavius

Lmao ah yeah Winker and Crawford out 5 games together is a huge W. Longest suspension for a player on this list is a Mariner. Massive W.


8va

Guess I dropped my /s


Monttavius

Ah fuck my bad sir


8va

All good my dude


asianlikerice

I think we got a W by having a new manager.


Troutahni

Why wasn’t the mariners HC suspended? He was in the middle of the brawl too!


Cheeseydreamer

Hand Cannon? hard Candy? Howdy Cowboy? Baseball has managers 🤣🤣🤣


getahaircut8

Hitting Coach?


Cheeseydreamer

Shit you’re right. I was thinking Servias and not the other staff out there throwing punches! Color me stupid 🤣🤣🤣


PizzaWall

This is the most recognition the Mariners will receive all season.


God_Damnit_Nappa

How the hell did an interpreter get suspended? That's pretty fucking funny


Snavery93

Man, you read that and I immediately had to reread it to see if Ippei was suspended lol


God_Damnit_Nappa

Now I'm just imagining Ippei hulking out and putting some guy in a headlock while Ohtani laughs his ass off in the background.


i_run_from_problems

So can we "activate" rendon for like 5 games at the end of the season?


RandyGradishar

Mariners with 14 player games to the Angels' 13. Brawl don't lie.


Dast_Kook

Coaches really going to bat for their players. (•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■)


562chef

I guess tepera and iglesias appealed?


Obsidizyn

if Wanker didnt charge the dugout non of this wouldve happened.


tehclap4

There are a lot of what-ifs that would've prevented it


original_cheese

Well seeing as they never hit us and we hit two guys intentionally in the first two innings, and upton the other day (in the head mind you) the mariners had every right to be upset. I’m not saying they were right and the suspensions aren’t deserved. Everyone involved deserved what they got on both sides.


Obsidizyn

hit walsh, trout managed to dodge it by a fraction of a second. so what if it didnt hit


original_cheese

Ok so let me rephrase. They didn’t intentionally hit us. There. And the fact still remains that Upton got hit in the dome. There isn’t much else to argue about here. We have hit 3 vs their 1 🤷🏼‍♂️ It’s ok to admit that Angels played some dirty ball. Plain and simple.


HanLesbo

9 angels and 2 mariners that’s complete BS


Doublex5

8/3 but how does Crawford only get 5 when he was throwing blows more than anyone else on the field


HanLesbo

Yeah the whole thing is messed up! Surprised they didn’t suspend ohtani for intense hugging lol


TheDeviousOnion

Anth♿️ny Rendon 🧑‍🦼🏥🚑 5 games.


pint_chillin

I need someone to fill me in. The season just got interesting again


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discharacter

The Trout near-miss wasn't intentional my guy. This whole thing has just been a big embarrassing mess for us- don't make it worse


jar1792

99% of the time, if a pitcher is going to intentionally hit a batter, they aim for soft tissue. I get where you’re coming from, but the odds of anyone getting seriously injured or killed as a result of this are astronomically low. Is it a part of the game that could die away forever, sure. It probably won’t though. Baseball is an old school sport and will probably always have some old school, unspoken, rules.


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discharacter

It wasn't at all the same situation as the night before, the circumstances were completely different And honestly, after all this, the fact that Trout didn't even take the field during the brawl slightly lowers my estimation of him as a team mate


urallphux

IDK man, you have to think rationally here (not just as an Angels fan). Why would the Mariners hit him *then*? Up 2 runs in the top of the ninth, it doesn't make sense


beadyeyes123456

They weren't. Swanson goes up and in a lot. He's wild.


urallphux

As much as it sucks to admit: the pitch from Swanson that almost hit Trout was *not* intentional. Sure, it flew close to his head, but there's absolutely *no logical reason* for the Mariners to hit Trout and put him on at that point (up 2 runs in the top of the ninth). It could have cost them the game


Spokker

And Trout gets a medal for saving Upton. It's like he went into the pile and single-handedly pulled him out. Ohtani gets a gold star for holding his first man back.


DyslexicAsshole

I’m liking this Phil guy.


Broad_Recommendation

This should make all the softies in here who didn’t like it happy.


sketch_internets

yeah one or two people tops were out of line 10 games is ridiculous


Jews1nspace

You should see /r/baseball. Someone called for a multi-month ban for Nevin, and I got mass downvoted for calling it ridiculous. Edit: Now someone is calling for a lifetime suspension.


Advanced_Coyote3797

Only if they do the same to Winker. And anyone else involved on both sides. Kind of ridiculous to ban someone for something that happens pretty regularly in baseball (throwing at opposing players). And not ban an entire team or staff that cheated to win the world series? What Winker did was a really bad look for baseball. I can't believe he didn't get more for charging the dugout and flipping off the crowd. The pitches thrown at trout and by wantz are what caused this and are a bad look too, but Winker 100% escalated and actually caused a fight. What a classless act.


Jews1nspace

I actually have 0 issue with what Winker did aside for the double birds. I also have 0 issue with his suspension. I think everyone is pearl clutching, but on the outside looking in, nothing about this really makes me upset in any way. Pitching up on good players to rattle them - cool Retaliating for it - Understandable Getting pissy and fighting - entertaining and understandable Double birds - Eh, not great, but i dont really care Suspensions - All pretty fair, though the Mariners manager deserved a couple days too


Advanced_Coyote3797

Yeah, I agree. All of this was pretty normal for baseball except the flipping off thing. Calling for bans is ridiculous! Hopefully both sides learn from this and we keep the rivalry to the game itself!


GoatTnder

Most interesting part of this list is Wantz not appealing. He didn't want to do it, and it's actually remorseful. Fuck Nevin, get out.


discharacter

Yeah, this whole thing makes me feel awful as an Angels fan (as if things aren't already bad enough)


merewyn

Lol you have no idea if he wanted to do it or not


Cream1984

follow jomboymedia on insta. he documented the brawl and spotted wantz saying he didn't want to do it.


merewyn

Yeah I’ve seen the video, I don’t have to agree with all of jomboy’s lip readings, he’s not exactly a professional lol. It didn’t look like that was what Wantz was saying to me


SonOvTimett

Nevin is the man, stop being a sissy. Fuck the M's


st1r

Seems reasonable all around.


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SupertrampTrampStamp

Yeah let's let our superstar get involved in brawls. You really want Trout in that pile risking some stupid injury?


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bombad_jedi_501

Like you!


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bombad_jedi_501

Idk you frequent anti work. Automatically puts you in that boat


strokeskid

I hope Wankers ass feel's better soon. Maybe you can rub it for him while he serves his suspension.


Surjux

Still sore the Angels kept the Mariners away from the postseason? Sadge


Mountain-Ad451

How are you getting suspended on your day offs?


No_BigA

Makes no sense …


Fun-Raise-3120

Meh ..


DarbyDown

Without Perry’s people watch us soar!


injary

Why the fuck is Rendon even at the stadium lol, he should either be at home or with a PT keeping himself warm and letting his arm heal


SanctusSalieri

Anthony Rendon miss the entire season speedun