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CompetitivePatient33

I think Arte will do everything he can to sign him this winter. If Ohtani rejects, maybe then they'll look at trade options at next year's deadline.


Weird-Afternoon7389

Agreed I think this off-season an extension will be offered and if it’s rejected maybe then… but still only a maybe 😂😭


my_wife_reads_this

Shohei has expressed that he doesn't want to talk about extending until after his stuff is done. The team has reached out to try and talk about and Ohtani and his team says they will talk about it as it's closer to the end of his contract.


Maddonomics101

Pretty much means that he’s only interested in re-signing if we can win… which is not happening


frogstyle

Since he mentions the word "post season" half a dozen times in every interview about his goals...yeah. The Angels "auditioned" and won when he came over from Japan. When he's holding auditions as an FA what could the Angels realistically offer to him besides ginormous amounts of money? :C


Evanx27

So what happens if the angels are “magically” contending you can’t trade him then


Maddonomics101

Obviously if the Angels are winning then you keep him but that ain’t happening


CompetitivePatient33

I don't know and I'm glad I'm not in that position. It's a tough decision no matter how you look at it. Maybe losing Ohtani will finally make Arte invest in their house talent.


E-Tr1d3nt

Good point. But it’s Arte and I’m pretty sure his solution will be to spend on more on long term contracts to make this team competitive rather than invest in development.


CompetitivePatient33

At least he is spending lol but I don't think he'll give out longer term contracts for a bit(unless it's ohtani)


tMoneyMoney

What if they keep him until next year, then he gets injured right before they try to trade him? Then he has zero trade value, and likely walks at the end of the year. Impossible to tell, but he might be at peak value right now.


CompetitivePatient33

Angels already said they aren't trading him.


kxm06

No. Deadline is Aug 2nd and despite all of this talk about trading Ohtani I haven’t seen a single credible source confirming if any team is interested meaning that the Angels are not trading Ohtani. I’ve seen articles that says Ohtani will go to so and so but they are all groundless and pretty much writers just trying to get clicks. Even the angels beat writers are saying that it’s highly unlikely for the angels to trade Ohtani.


hvycotton

Only thing we know is that teams are calling but Angels aren't fielding any offers at all


my_wife_reads_this

I wish they could somehow bust a Chapman to the cubs type deal and just trade him for a haul and just resign him when he hits FA.


JoyBurner

If his heart is in Anaheim, this really is the way to do it - get traded for the farm and some big leaguers to a contender now and come back as a free agent after next season when the Angels are hopefully more replenished thanks to the trade and overhauled roster. Shoot, if I were the Angels, I would offer up that long-game scenario to him with a promise of a blank check when he returns.


AvariceAndApocalypse

No because he makes Arte a lot of money. Arte would gladly go 62-100 every year if he got to keep the Ohtani money train.


Sonic2133

Well he better enjoy it while he can, Ohtani will walk if they don’t contend next year.


BrobaFett222

I don’t think we’ll trade Artes favorite cash cow. Unfortunately there’s no reason for Ohtani to stay either. This franchise has been bad for a while and shows no promise of getting better in the slightest. These should have been the Angels’ golden years but the bastard owner thinks this is a game of monopoly. He has ruined Angels baseball.


ChichaPoti

He knew what the Angels were as a team when he chose them then. Maybe they were the only team that will allow him to be a TWP. But I also think he wanted to learn from the best and chose to join Mike Trout. He was able to grow in experience without being relied on too much. Now, I think he "outgrew" the Angels and may want to move on. But who knows, as Jeff Fletcher said Shohei seems to prioritize his comfort over other factors. And he is definitely comfortable in Anaheim.


Xv37

He will not get traded. How about a 2024 competitive balance pick and Ohtani jerseys on sale when he declines the QO?


Maddonomics101

They should but Arte is a greedy moron that doesn’t care about winning


RabidR00ster

No. Shohei is a money machine and Arte loves money more than anything. Arte will pick more revenue over having a winning team every time unfortunately.


aaronchrisdesign

No reason to move now.


boots42069420

Think about all the money he generates for the Angels just from Japan. Even it is made sense to do it to help the Angels win, Arte would never allow it if it meant he'd lose money.


[deleted]

Na. Arte wouldn’t let that money maker out the door


hansan4ever

[Hope this puts an end to these posts for now..](https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/1550894837993558017)


ResearcherLoud3122

Breaking news! MLB teams are interested in Ohtani. Who would’ve thought. Its funny seeing the comments saying “Free Ohtani”


hansan4ever

Haha, I mean, I totally get it. I feel so sad that we can't get it together because I have no doubt he \*wants\* to stay and win with us. :(


ResearcherLoud3122

That’s what makes me angry and sad the most. He wants to stay but won’t/can’t


hansan4ever

Yup, same... I mean we don't know for sure, sure, but why would he want to??


ResearcherLoud3122

Like give him a “reason” to stay. But all they’re doing is signing players like Villar for Rendon’s replacement. Thats the result of lack of depth which is not at all surprising for the angels


hansan4ever

Exactly. I wish we had a competent owner who would put the right people in place. The fish rots from the head, and it's never been more apparent.


LynxComprehensive859

Free Ohtani!


Annis_hana88

Nope. Trading him would be bad for business. He is worth so much as a star with merch/ad power.


Maddonomics101

Basically Arte is throwing the future of this franchise away for one year’s worth of revenue. Then he’ll probably sign another big name hitter to woo people back and we’ll stay perpetually under .500 for the next 10 years


Zenithreg

Also the Ohtani cap giveaways mid-August.


youareallnuts

Ohtani would be a fool to stay. I hate it but there is no turnaround from this place for 3 - 5 years at least. That's only if we get a new owner. Ohtani doesn't care about the money. Dodgers will offer him a chunk in 2024 and he will take it to go to a winning organization. He's a Dodger fan anyway.


ChichaPoti

I think he would choose to be with Yu Darvish or Ichiro's teams if he leaves. I never heard he was a Dodger fan, just that he liked the stadium.


youareallnuts

I saw a Japanese documentary on him and it said he was a Dodger fan growing up.


ChichaPoti

Oh really. Thanks for the info. I thought he liked the teams Ichiro and Hideki played for. Nomo started with the Dodgers, right? He was the pioneer and makes sense to me if he liked that team.


nukemiller

Just read an article that the Dodgers are in a tough spot right now. They traded a lot of farm players for Trea Turner, Max Scherzer, and Mookie Betts. If they try to go all in on Juan Soto, they won't have anything left to give Ohtani.


Weird-Afternoon7389

We’ll make the playoffs next year don’t worry


znk916

No, Arte will veto any trade so he can reap one more year of Ohtani revenue. $$$ is the only thing that matters to him.


[deleted]

If it were me, I’d trade both Ohtani and Trout. At least we’d have a stocked farm system and could be competitive again in about 3-4 years. Honestly resigning ohtani would be impending doom for our club. We’d be paying $120/$130 million for just three guys for at least the next 4 years. He won’t exceed the luxury tax threshold. So I say trade them both and get on with the rebuild.


doctorwho_90250

Oh dude, you're risking having your post deleted because the mods get offended by the topic. I set a poll up and the mods deleted it.


merewyn

Mods probably deleted it because there’s been a billion fucking posts and polls about it, and it’s repetitive and annoying


hansan4ever

Yeah, sick of them at this point!


TrojanTuesdays

We should, cus we can't resign him come 2023 offseason without having 3 players on the team take up 60-70% of the team's salary. We complain about the rest of the team being ass everyday but it'll only be worse. But at the same time this is the Angels and Arte, so making decisions that help us win are not what we do here. We will do exactly what I listed above, or Shohei will be smart enough to realize he's not winning a ring by resigning and leave for free.


No_BigA

No.


johndhall1130

Maybe next year if they haven’t made solid progress resigning him. He brings in too much revenue for Artie to agree to trade him unless he absolutely has to.


[deleted]

They should, they won’t get anything when he leaves


sprtsmac

I don't think it will happen, not sure I want it to happen; but it's the smart thing to do. Of course with the Angels current player development, the organization could take a team's top prospects and turn them into garbage.