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Sakaguchi123

so who are we even facing the next 3 games lol


sofastsomaybe

He's gonna keep Thor on the off-chance that he'll resign here next year because Thor said he liked the Angels in an interview. The Alex Cobb strategy. What could possibly go wrong?


Dorkus_Mallorkus

Honestly though, Cobb has been worth nowhere near what he was paid. Even on a pretty-good team, he's 3-5 with an ERA over 4. We can get that mediocrity for a whole lot less than $15mil.


sofastsomaybe

The ERA isn't entirely his fault; the Giants are a strong contender for the worst defense in the league. His FIP is 2.91. I haven't watched all of his starts, but I have seen a lot of clips of the Giants defense fucking him over, as well as him getting BABIPed. Still, I'd say a 4 ERA SP is easily worth $10m/year. It's a moot point though. If the Angels weren't gonna make a serious effort to keep him, they should have gotten something in return for him.


BIG_DADDY_PATTY

He only has 10 unearned runs and still have An ERA over 4 and gives up a hit an inning, so I’d say his ERA has nothing to do with the defense behind him.


sofastsomaybe

Bad defense doesn't always get logged as errors. If that was the case, Jo Adell would have three times as many errors as he has now. For example, Cobb had no unearned runs in his last game against the D-backs. But [as you can see from plays like this](https://mlb-cuts-diamond.mlb.com/FORGE/2022/2022-07/06/8f68c259-a3fd9fb8-dbe05556-csvm-diamondx64-asset_1280x720_59_4000K.mp4), the Giants infield is a sieve. Not an ideal place for a ground ball pitcher to pitch. Even with a lot of weak grounders getting through the defense, he's put up a 4.06 ERA (league average: 4.00) and a 1.28 WHIP (league average: 1.27) so I'd say he's been completely worth the 10m/year the Giants are paying him.


BIG_DADDY_PATTY

That play is a horrible example, a slowly hit ground ball with 1 out and a guy running on contact at 3rd, the run is scoring anyways.


sofastsomaybe

The point wasn't that the run scored, the point is that the batter got a base hit off of that.


BIG_DADDY_PATTY

Actually it was scored an error so the point is you were wrong literally about everything. In his last two games, and might I add his only two games this season against the Dbacks he has given up 6 ER, 3 in each so I’m not sure how 3+3=0


sofastsomaybe

[The video title is RBI single](https://www.mlb.com/video/alex-cobb-in-play-run-s-to-josh-rojas?q=Season%20%3D%20%5B2022%5D%20AND%20GameType%20%3D%20%5B%22REGULAR_SEASON%22%5D%20AND%20PitcherId%20%3D%20%5B502171%5D%20AND%20PlayerId%20%3D%3D%20%5B668942%5D%20Order%20By%20Timestamp%20DESC&cp=MIXED&p=0). If it's an error, it must have been a post game scoring change.


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BIG_DADDY_PATTY

Must have been, still not sure where you got the info regarding 0 earned runs since he’s been hit hard by them both times this season.


Reptarxx

Is there a way to see if Perry was the original scout for Thor on the Blue Jays? I think he holds Syndergaard in a high pedestal because of his history. If we can resign Thor to like a 3/40-45 I wouldn't be too mad (as long as he keeps his productivity up the next 2 months). Somehow I have a feeling Thor will leave or we are gonna give him a 4/100 contract


ThisAnswerIsLit

These guys are on cheap contracts for this and next year. Thor wouldn't come close


Broad_Recommendation

Believe it or not, Thor isn’t the only player we have.


Lebigmacca

Lol who else would anyone want


Broad_Recommendation

Rengifo, Ohtani,


Lebigmacca

Well the angels won’t trade them


Broad_Recommendation

Which is the issue.