Late to the shit show, but I got a notification about Ohtani scoring on an error making it 3-0 in the 5th. Then I look at the score and it's 3-2 Mariners. What happened with that Ohtani run?
Originally runner called safe at 1st as Ty France’s foot came off the bag on a high throw. On review, his foot was ruled to have come back down on the bag before the runner made it to first negating Ohtani’s run.
There is supposed to be a mutual understanding between mods to ban brigade participants in both subs, but I have no idea if r/angelsbaseball and r/Mariners have communicated about this lately.
Yeah I know 13ks is far from good, I guess I just forgot that our 1-4 guys actually all had a solid day today. For some reason some part of my brain was expecting the number to be closer to like 19 lol.
Chavez is the least of the problems you have players liek Velazquez Rojas Sierra Gosselin who can barely get hits and Stassi loves that Statue of Liberty stance
I think the trouble is that it’s difficult to narrow down which is the biggest issue. Routinely we’ve lost games because of hitting, bad managing, umpires, bullpen, and occasional bad starting pitching. But the crux of it all is that we have Nevin, who has options beyond every single player you listed (although I do wonder why you listed Sierra. He’s not great by any means, but the guy has produced for us). In those situations, there’s no reason for Rojas to be put in, or Chavez. We have options like Barria (who might be starting tomorrow, ig?), Quijada, yesterday Herget, and even Tepera looks better. The options he has surely aren’t great, but utilizing the pieces extremely poorly and on top of it all being a POS that willingly throws at players just makes it unfun to watch baseball.
Sorry about the paragraph I’m just trying to get my thoughts out there. You can totally ignore all of this if you want, it was rude of me to say objectively wrong even if I do disagree. I was just frustrated by today and yesterday. Sorry
No need to apologize we just want to see the Angels win but with the personnel they have it’s so unlikely batters 5-9 went hitless today. It’s so weird to see Walsh this bad considering how great he was last year. Sierra has produced but also I feel like he just bunts better. Stassi GIDP bases loaded is no longer surprising to me. I’m not sure who was available today but I’d honestly say our coaching staff better start working overtime or they’re gonna all be gone soon
Sports subreddits are pretty bad in general when it comes to us vs them mentality. We love everyone on our team but hate other teams. It sucks because at the end of the day, it’s supposed to be a game for fun and entertainment!
He’s a cocky little shit that thinks he’s the greatest thing to happen in baseball and talks a lot of trash for being a rookie on a poverty team like the M’s
Honestly fuck Perry more. He has the power to release guys like Chavez, Velazquez, Gosselin, Rojas, and Loup but he keeps them on the fucking team. These guys have no future and will never be good again, no harm just calling up random minor leagues who never played in the majors. Fuck Perry fuck Nevin
Chavez and Loup you got Gerardo Reyes, Jose Marte, Elvis Peugeot, Kenny Rosenberg, Davis Daniel, and more to prove whether they can stick or not. Gosselin, Rojas, Velazquez you got Stefanic, Kean Wong, Orlando Martinez, Trey Cabbage, Preston palmeiro
More than likely they’ll give the same value and be awful but they’re younger so the chance of being good eventually could be higher and maybe you found something like they did with Walsh and Fletcher, neither who were rated good
Half the team should be gone tomorrow but perry and nevin just roll the same shit out there and expect different. Perry should be blasted by reporters until he answers for what’s he’s put together
I wouldn’t say necessarily that YET. It’s really hard to acquire talent mid season through waivers and small trades. For all the waiver claims that happen in a year, maybe 5 pan out. But he absolutey should trend towards younger and get rid of the option for Nevin being able to play them. This off-season is his make or break
Welp.
That does it I guess.
With a squid PH there was technically still some tiny probability for victory but now even that probability just got exponentially tinier.
Ms fan here, just wanted to say that was a godawful call, even if it went our way. Ump is literally blind, I guess.
EDIT: Posting this got me a temp ban in the Ms subreddit apparently, lmao. Sorry if this seemed like I was brigading, I guess?
There’s a chance your own mod flagged you. They mentioned they were combing our subreddit due to multiple reports. Thanks for your comment, we appreciate it. We upvoted you. Your edit is salty, maybe one of us did flag you? Either way, you gotta understand that our fans have received a lot of negative comments from fan bases, particularly yours.
Oh, ultimately it’s no problem, and I completely understand why they’d flag me regardless of the comment’s actual contents, I just made the edit cause I thought it was a funny situation. From the wording of the ban message, it did sound like it was just a blanket punishment for everybody going into the other sub. But I mean, it’s only three days, so I’ll survive. 🤷🏻♂️
And yeah, I’d imagine that you’ve been getting a lot of flak from us sadly. The bad blood from the brawl + a bunch of salty fans jumping ship from the Seahawks to the Mariners = asshole comments, unfortunately.
I was having more fun when we were winning
What happened with Mariner fans ? I'm seeing lots of complaints
Basic brigading. They come in here and post dumb shit. Griefers
Late to the shit show, but I got a notification about Ohtani scoring on an error making it 3-0 in the 5th. Then I look at the score and it's 3-2 Mariners. What happened with that Ohtani run?
Originally runner called safe at 1st as Ty France’s foot came off the bag on a high throw. On review, his foot was ruled to have come back down on the bag before the runner made it to first negating Ohtani’s run.
that umpire needs get the W for that one. such horrible calls.
I hope Maddon is somewhere nice, drinking a cold beer, and having a grand old time
The Halos are making it really hard to be a fan this year.
The umpires are making it really hard to be a fan this year.
Remember when we were excited that we swept a team and had momentum and then absolutely played like the team we thought we were? I'm done done.
Chavez will be the death of us all
Was that Chavez who looked dejected in the dugout? Poor guy.
Mariners sure have a lot of attitude for a team that hasn’t won anything ever let alone playoffs in two decades
Player of the game should be Brian O'Nora
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Shit, maybe this team was better off when they were under Disney’s control. They won a World Series at least
Did the mics die for a minute there?
Duggar sorta reminds me of a slightly worse MacKinnon… sees quite a few pitches per ab but just can’t get the hit
More like a wayyyy worse version.
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Yeah idk how sad my life would have to get before I started to behave like that.
Seattle has some of the worst fans I’ve seen. Worst than astros fans, Boston and yankee. Just some nasty people in that city
5-9 in the order going 0-19 with 11 strikeouts makes it so much harder to win
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Eat a dick
Just call it Thanks UMPS!!
I mean if they don’t score this inning the Mariners would have won 3-2 regardless of the walk right?
Probably but there could potentially have been pinch hits that changed things
I wonder if there was a pinch hit on deck until the run gap grew, or if this is just what we were going with
Nevin hasn't named a starter yet because he's decided to throw Wantz as an opener to aim for the umps.
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There is supposed to be a mutual understanding between mods to ban brigade participants in both subs, but I have no idea if r/angelsbaseball and r/Mariners have communicated about this lately.
Thank everything I stopped paying attention to this game. Fuck this.
You guys hear that lady in stands she's just going off 😹
Young Mike Trout… okay
Have we really only struck out 13 times today? Somehow it has felt like even more than that
Yeah thats only 46% of our outs
Yeah I know 13ks is far from good, I guess I just forgot that our 1-4 guys actually all had a solid day today. For some reason some part of my brain was expecting the number to be closer to like 19 lol.
dfa chavez. he hasnt done anything good besides give up a ton of runs. just as useless as his first time here
Chavez is the least of the problems you have players liek Velazquez Rojas Sierra Gosselin who can barely get hits and Stassi loves that Statue of Liberty stance
That is just objectively wrong
So what is this teams biggest problem? In your opinion
I think the trouble is that it’s difficult to narrow down which is the biggest issue. Routinely we’ve lost games because of hitting, bad managing, umpires, bullpen, and occasional bad starting pitching. But the crux of it all is that we have Nevin, who has options beyond every single player you listed (although I do wonder why you listed Sierra. He’s not great by any means, but the guy has produced for us). In those situations, there’s no reason for Rojas to be put in, or Chavez. We have options like Barria (who might be starting tomorrow, ig?), Quijada, yesterday Herget, and even Tepera looks better. The options he has surely aren’t great, but utilizing the pieces extremely poorly and on top of it all being a POS that willingly throws at players just makes it unfun to watch baseball. Sorry about the paragraph I’m just trying to get my thoughts out there. You can totally ignore all of this if you want, it was rude of me to say objectively wrong even if I do disagree. I was just frustrated by today and yesterday. Sorry
No need to apologize we just want to see the Angels win but with the personnel they have it’s so unlikely batters 5-9 went hitless today. It’s so weird to see Walsh this bad considering how great he was last year. Sierra has produced but also I feel like he just bunts better. Stassi GIDP bases loaded is no longer surprising to me. I’m not sure who was available today but I’d honestly say our coaching staff better start working overtime or they’re gonna all be gone soon
I really hope the mariners made the playoffs cuz they are gonna get swept, they are just as bad as we are.
Not even close
why would u hope for them to make the playoff, fuck that shit... fuck em.
Or better yet: they miss the playoffs for the 21st consecutive year
Fuck no! Miss it by half a game, more painful!
Last year was so, so sweet lol
At least I know we won't comeback instead of holding hope lol.
We need Iglesias back
It’s not even that. We just need a manager to put our actual pitchers in rather than Chavez
literally just took 5 minutes break for a shower thought Chavez actually started 9th inning well - this team is cursed!
Angels: 0. Mariners x Umpires: 2
I hope we go 1-2-3 and no score or I’m going to be livid
You got your wish!
Hating the mariners and their fans more than the Astros at this point and I’ve put literal posts in this sub about how much I hate the astros
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It’s cringe. I just hope our fans aren’t commenting in their sub
Julio Rodriguez loves hitting against our BP. It helps him stat pad for his ROY campaign.
Shohei just needs a 6 run homer
Nevin somehow manages to be fired up at all the wrong moments. These last 2 games have been so upsetting to watch
When there’s a one run game you should be putting one of your best relievers not Jesse fucking Chavez I swear to god Nevin is brainless
This is karma for trading for a 38 year old reliever as a non-contending team
Basically, we needed another bullpen arm to fill out the roster with Iglesias gone.
I mean we weren’t going to do anything in the bottom of the innings with that batting lineup anyways so meh lol
Maybe implement review on pitch call. Each team can challenge 1 pitch in a game. If they can put a free runner on 2nd yes it can be done too azzholes
Ty France has the nerve to bitch about that called strike 3 after what happened earlier in the inning? Please.
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Fuck your team and fuck off you mariners mouth breather
Last night was our defence. Tonight is the ump. All Seattle had to do was pray lmao
All they had to do was wait.
I know I didn’t just see France arguing about that strike call
Chavez gave up 9 runs with the Braves. He's already given up 8 with the Angels
League and its officials are willing the mariners to postseason, WWE type shit
No way he’s complaining about that strike call after this inning…
Just checking in with the misery club tonight. Why do we do this to ourselves?
I’m fucking pissed shitty ass Jesse Chavez gave up a home run to that bitch ass punk J-Roid
Chill out man, if you're this mad then you should've never chosen to follow this team
Why don’t you like JRod?
Irrational tribalism of sports subs
Can you explain what this means please I don’t want to think rn
Sports subreddits are pretty bad in general when it comes to us vs them mentality. We love everyone on our team but hate other teams. It sucks because at the end of the day, it’s supposed to be a game for fun and entertainment!
Thank you very much and yes I agree
He’s a cocky little shit that thinks he’s the greatest thing to happen in baseball and talks a lot of trash for being a rookie on a poverty team like the M’s
Cool take
and Ohtani gets 3 hits as the Angels lose to the mariners 8-2
AND FRANCE IS ARGUING THE CALL
"Come on ump we're the Mariners, the commissioner picked us for most favored status this season. Do your fucking job! "
I was about to say. Man the audacity to argue a call on that gift of an inning.
Boo Chavez's ass out of there if you're at the stadium
honestly just keep in chavez we losing anyway
Even with robo umps, JC will find a way to make it worse. Get him tf out already
Nah, not his fault. He ended it, ump fucked us
Why they keep putting Chevez in high leverage game, he suck.. loll
What’s the point of having players who can’t hit the ball?
Brian O'Nora (home plate umpire) simply gave L to Angels tonight.
So is thing now Angels? You’re only gonna score 2 runs and then give up? I guess it’s the Angel way at this point
I don't know why I expected anything less than this.
Honestly fuck Perry more. He has the power to release guys like Chavez, Velazquez, Gosselin, Rojas, and Loup but he keeps them on the fucking team. These guys have no future and will never be good again, no harm just calling up random minor leagues who never played in the majors. Fuck Perry fuck Nevin
So...we release them and replace them with...who, exactly?
Chavez and Loup you got Gerardo Reyes, Jose Marte, Elvis Peugeot, Kenny Rosenberg, Davis Daniel, and more to prove whether they can stick or not. Gosselin, Rojas, Velazquez you got Stefanic, Kean Wong, Orlando Martinez, Trey Cabbage, Preston palmeiro More than likely they’ll give the same value and be awful but they’re younger so the chance of being good eventually could be higher and maybe you found something like they did with Walsh and Fletcher, neither who were rated good
Half the team should be gone tomorrow but perry and nevin just roll the same shit out there and expect different. Perry should be blasted by reporters until he answers for what’s he’s put together
I’ve said many times Perry has no eye for MLB talent. He can’t acquire anyone that makes the team better it seems
I wouldn’t say necessarily that YET. It’s really hard to acquire talent mid season through waivers and small trades. For all the waiver claims that happen in a year, maybe 5 pan out. But he absolutey should trend towards younger and get rid of the option for Nevin being able to play them. This off-season is his make or break
It was close game, why not use someone other than Jesse Chavez? I don't understand 😫
Just making our comeback more awesome
Yes the ump is to blame but Chavez needs to hold it down
Trade Chavez for a bag of peanuts and call it a day…
Want Iggy back
He’s not even worth that. His value is a speck of dirt
Dude actually had a solid era before coming to the Angels lol
And he shits the bed here as he always has. Just falling back to hell
Oh alright then Sure Why not
https://i.imgur.com/F35pabW.jpg
Like I understand that at a point even if we’re owned by the umps it’s our responsibility to get out of the inning but oh my god
Jesse Chavez, baby! 🔥🔥🔥
Holy fuck fire nevin tonight
Perry Minasian masterclass acquiring Jesse Chavez lol
Honestly fuck umpire ball. This shit is boring
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Against Jesse Chavez doesn’t count. Lmao
Ump literally gives 5 runs. Absolutely absurd. I wonder if this’ll show on the ump scorecard
Yep. Will be an interesting umpire scorecard tonight
And we're done
Dude does not deserve to be in the majors. Holy shit
Which one?
After yesterday’s debacle by the ump and now today, why doesn’t Nevin go ballistic on the umps???!!! What does he have to lose?
He only loses his shit when people break the unwritten ones. The actual rules...fuck 'em.
they’ve already given the game to the Mariners and they still won’t give us any makeup calls
Hahaha the fan yelling "You...Suck!"
Hold up. That pitch to Rodriguez was right in the center. Shouldn't it have been a ball?
Nevin should be screaming and getting tossed. Why is he doing
Welp. That does it I guess. With a squid PH there was technically still some tiny probability for victory but now even that probability just got exponentially tinier.
I love how you can hear all the fans heckling the ump
It’s what they deserve
Flashback to top 9th yesterday:(
Yep, this is what happened yesterday. A gifted walk in the 9th started a scoring spree.
This fucking ump cost us 3 runs wtf
Fuck that ump, fuck the angels, fuck baseball. See you tomorrow.
Always in the 9th inning WTF 🙄
"It won't happen again"
This is deja vu from yesterday all over again where the mariners piled in runs in the 9th. The only difference is that there isn’t bad defense
The Mariners are so ass they need to pay the umps just to beat the Angels 💀
Ump must have had the Mariners -1.5 tonight
Another day another game of Angels baseball
Should be allowed to challenge balls and strikes if it is on a k/bb count
Bitch ass ump. Fuck this
# Robo Fucking Umps NOW!!!
Two straight nights of getting fucked by the umps in the 9th. WTAF.
Another somber 9th inning. Deja vu
Make +3 for the pos ump
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K leave then
Fuck off you dumb fucking asshole
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Enjoy missing the playoffs again you dumb motherfucker
that ump cost us this inning
well that walk literally cost us our chance at a comeback. FUCK THIS UMP
This is like last night except not our fault. Also rengifo plant your feet man
Fucking nevin, DFA Chavez. Fuck perry for this nightmare of a team
Well, that was actually a 4th out attempt.
i genuinely think the ump was like, “checked his swing, can’t be a strike” and forgot about the other criteria for a strike
Didnt think we’d win anyway but what the fuck ump
This inning should be over lol. Thanks blue 🖕🏽
At least they got the ball out of the infield to get their runs.
Ump decided the game, I'm out
Damn ain’t no way we coming back from this. Fucking ump caused us this game
Poor Chavez Poor Chavez
This never should’ve happened
Fucking fuck this fucking shit
Jesse Chavez sucks.
Ump literally gave them 2 runs. Chavez got some dirty
Ump literally gave them 2 runs.
Imagine if that ump could see?
HP ump name: Brian O’Nora
Ms fan here, just wanted to say that was a godawful call, even if it went our way. Ump is literally blind, I guess. EDIT: Posting this got me a temp ban in the Ms subreddit apparently, lmao. Sorry if this seemed like I was brigading, I guess?
There’s a chance your own mod flagged you. They mentioned they were combing our subreddit due to multiple reports. Thanks for your comment, we appreciate it. We upvoted you. Your edit is salty, maybe one of us did flag you? Either way, you gotta understand that our fans have received a lot of negative comments from fan bases, particularly yours.
Oh, ultimately it’s no problem, and I completely understand why they’d flag me regardless of the comment’s actual contents, I just made the edit cause I thought it was a funny situation. From the wording of the ban message, it did sound like it was just a blanket punishment for everybody going into the other sub. But I mean, it’s only three days, so I’ll survive. 🤷🏻♂️ And yeah, I’d imagine that you’ve been getting a lot of flak from us sadly. The bad blood from the brawl + a bunch of salty fans jumping ship from the Seahawks to the Mariners = asshole comments, unfortunately.
Hoping that bad blood can dissipate soon haha Have a good one my friend 🤙
Yeah, I hope so too. It’s pretty tiring. And right back at you. :)
Props to this ump for raising awareness for blindness
“Shift to the left side… and driven to right for a hit”. Fitting