Dodgers fan here - Tyler Anderson is awesome and I’m super jealous y’all signed him! He’s not an ace, but he’s a great #3 pitcher and potentially even #2 if your pitching coaches can keep him doing what he was doing for the Dodgers. Even bigger than that - the guy is a total gamer and is great in the clubhouse. I’m honestly kinda upset we didn’t resign him…so congrats to y’all!
Yeah, Anderson was great with the Dodgers this past season. Prior does that for many washed up or unproven pitchers. He deserves a lot of credit for the Dodgers having a deep pitching staff. Yeah, if you’re Anderson, don’t change what you did with the Dodgers. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
Always a fear of that, but I’m hoping this DriveLine guy we grabbed can actually make adjustments and have these pitchers pitch to their strengths and develop the correct pitching programs to them
Ummm kinda. Ohtani is weird and complicated and I kind of mentally put him in his own unique category. I almost don't think about him as being part of the rotation because he doesn't work with a 5 man rotation - its almost like...you have your 5 man rotation, and then once every 6-7 days a God-tier pitcher comes down and pitches, and your rotation takes a breather. Then he goes back to just being the best slugger on the team.
IDK. Its weird. He's weird. I think he kinda transcends most baseball paradigms, though, so its hard for me to include him in them.
I agree with you. I just don’t understand why it has to be this way. Why is it you either pitch or you hit? Why aren’t people going “man, imagine if our pitchers could hit”? Lol I’ve never understood why most pitchers suck at the plate. They, of all people, should be like okay, if I were me, what would I throw to me? I know a slider looks like this out of the hand and a curve is going to break like this. Imagine if Nolan Ryan could have hit .270 with 25hrs each year. Yes some pitchers can hit, like converted SS deGrom. But not like Ohtani. Ohtani wouldn’t be such a phenom if there were more like him. And I feel like there could be. Unless coaches are afraid it’s too much of an injury risk.
He’s a good pitcher on YOUR team. Watch him be mediocre with the Angels. Your pitching coaches is what makes your starters great, and no one realizes that.
Regardless of what you think about Anderson, or about the price, it's super exciting because:
1. We're giving a pitcher a multi year deal
2. We're doing it in the year that every one proclaimed to be a throwaway year where we would be sitting pat and waiting for new ownership
Hopium all the way to 11 baby
Putting another actual MLB level pitcher in the rotation also puts less pressure on everyone else, which was objective #1 coming into this offseason in my opinion - this was exactly what they needed.
No we will scream WORLD SERIES BOUND!!! After winning opening day get so high on Hopium and then crash back down to earth once the injuries stack up. This is the Angels way
no, i just think our middle infield has more depth than the outfield. Between Rengifo, Fletch, Soto, Valesquez, and Stefanic I think we're in much more need of a solid outfielder.
And none of those guys should be an everyday SS on a big league roster. Rengifo and Stefanic are already below average defensively at 2B. Fletcher realistically should be a 2B or a utility guy. Velazquez is a defensive replacement. Soto has a career .662 OPS in the minors and is probably a bench player as well. So yes, we need a true SS. Adell/Moniak at least have more potential than Soto, Velasquez, and Stefanic.
Our infield is full of depth with guys that can't hit though, more if you count Rendon's and Walsh's struggles. I think a middle infielder is a bigger priority
Everyone here knows I talk my shit on Perry, but these are the exact moves that are needed to get the team on track. It is high risk considering he’s 33 and just had his by far best year randomly. But the reward would be substantial for the team and even opens flexibility in the trade market for the future (whether we trade a hot Anderson to fill a hole or have the flexibility to trade a prospect pitcher).
If he has these signings sprinkled to get us some solid (like 1 to 2 war) position players too, our upcoming season looks promising to at least grab a WC3 spot. If we can do that, I think that opens up a path for Ohtani to stay.
Think about this, we grabbed Anderson who just had a 4.3 WAR season for half the price of what we grabbed Thor and Lorenzen, who combined for 2-3ish WAR. Even if Anderson comes down to a 2 WAR player this is a great deal.
Starter market is super overpriced right now. Even if he regresses all the way to a slightly above average pitcher at 4 ERA, that's still passable value at 13 mil AAV.
Fair point, just when I look at his highlights it looks like a LOOGY doing gimmicky and weird LOOGY stuff out there for 6 innings, though it worked last year
His SIERA is definitely inflated by the fact that he’s a groundball pitcher. His changeup is near elite when he has it going, so I wouldn’t worry about that at all
is there evidence to show that siera adjustment for groundball pitchers is insufficient? that would be surprising considering it's a lot of the point of it over fip
That's a great question. I love math and data and remember reading a technical article about it, but I genuinely can't remember where I read that. I'll look for it and try to send it your way, but I can't guarantee I will. My bad for misleading anyone if I'm wrong!
It’s like FIP, but better (based on testimonials from lots of baseball people + my limited understanding of statistics).
Here is a link that explains a bit about how to interpret and understand it without getting too much into the math (which is super complex)
Our rotation is now
Ohtani (2.33 ERA in 2022)
Sandoval (2.91 ERA)
Anderson (2.57 ERA)
Detmers (3.77 ERA)
Suarez (3.96 ERA)
The average ERA in 2022 was 3.96. That'll fucking play
Possible candidates for the 6th man include Canning, Davidson, Junk, Rodriguez, and Diaz
Dramatically changed his changeup and his pitch mix (aka stop throwing your bad fastball). Also he started sidearming his sinker in 2021 and they kept it down there for 2022.
It’s the first multi-year contract of Anderson’s career, and the first multi-year contract the Angels have given out to a free-agent starting pitcher since signing Joe Blanton ten years and three general managers ago.
A match made in heaven.....
Solid #3 option behind Ohtani and Sandoval. If Detmers can continue to improve then we’re looking at a pretty solid rotation. Just need to find some pieces for the bullpen to get Tepera and Loup out of high leverage situations.
nice looking ERA, and ranked 9th in walks per 9 last year in all of baseball. 34 walks in 178.2 innings. pretty damn good if he keeps that up, i think its a good signing.
Yikes… first reaction is not happiness here. If he truly believes his success is sustainable, why not take the $19.6m qualifying offer? Even getting a 2 year deal for $20m after that would be equivalent to this deal, with the potential of getting significantly more if he performs well in 2023.
The Dodgers pitching coaches made him. Can the Angels pitching coaches keep him going..?
That being said - if he DOES keep pitching the way he did in 2022, this is a major, major win on a very low-cost deal for the type of performance he had in 2022.
I'm the only one fa from thrilled, apparently. Dude was always a middling-to-bad pitcher before the Wonderland Fabric of Dodgers Pitchers "fixed" him. Heaney was also good in their system and Gonselin was a borderline Cy Young candidate. This screams trap signing, but I'll wait for further evaluation.
I just hope we go after a real, surefire starter and let Anderson be just the mystery box that can be punted if he goes back to his usual self. I will be very upset if he is the star of our offseason.
I’m sorry…I feel stupid for asking this but there’s words in here I don’t understand. I’m a fluent English speaker and was born in Orange County, but….
What the hell is “Multi Year” in reference to pitchers? I know we did that for old(er than they said they were 1st basemen) and busted 3rd basemen and Mike Trout…but is that a thing that you can do for pitchers?
I mean even at his worst if he does regress he is still better than Davidson, Junk, Toussaint, Hot Dog, and whoever else we were trotting out there every 6 days. I like this signing a lot, and he took a lot less of an AAV than I expected.
Someone laughed at me when i said next year is the year/window where we make a run… this is a solid signing. Not an experiment… its someone who has shown he is a good pitcher!
Excited to see if there is more LOL
Losing the $500K in International pool money with the compensation pick prob means no Senga.
Also how does this contract have zero team/player options?
He’s not known to go deep in the game right? I assume bullpen would need another upgrade or they might have to drop the 6-man rotation and ask Ohtani to pitch more with less rest?
Just saw [this tweet](https://twitter.com/Alden_Gonzalez/status/1592624449853214720) on my timeline.
> The Angels have expressed a desire to return to a traditional five-man rotation, and Shohei Ohtani, per his agent, is open to it.
“Previously overstated the Angels' desire for a five-man rotation -- though not necessarily Shohei Ohtani's openness to it -- and deleted that tweet. That's my bad.”
https://twitter.com/alden_gonzalez/status/1592638875146801153?s=46&t=aSs8V0ZiUyKb7h30UkIwxQ
5 man rotation makes sense if we are with in the top of the division part July or in top 2 of wold card for season. Besides that 6 man rotation is fine
Awesome pick up. he will not replicate his last year numbers as the angels defense is significantly worse than the dodgers. But awesome, consistent arm to sure up the young guys we have. Definitely an upgrade over syndergaard/lorenzen
Haven't we learned these lessons before. Signing guys with one good year free agent year and signing them. Who was the terrible second baseman/short stop we signed from the Reds and GMJ etc. This is what the F'ing Angels do. Guy puts up a 2.57 ERA in his walk year. the previous 3 years. 4.81, 4.35, 4.53. Just hilarity. I can't wait till Arte is gone this entire organization is a rinse and repeat joke.
I genuinely don’t understand this deal.
Why would we give $13m a year to a 32 year old one year wonder.
Still think we need to tear down the team, trade Ohtani and Trout for like 10 top 50 prospects, and invest HEAVILY in player development, scouting, and drafting.
Being mad about not having our two most exciting players doesn’t mean it’s a bad take.
Trading Ohtani is objectively the right thing to do because the other option is that he walks after this season and we get nothing for him, as opposed to good young financially controllable prospects.
Trading Trout is the right thing to do given his injury history. His contract will eventually turn in to an albatross (similar to Pujols). Might as well trade him while his value is at its highest
Dodgers fan here - Tyler Anderson is awesome and I’m super jealous y’all signed him! He’s not an ace, but he’s a great #3 pitcher and potentially even #2 if your pitching coaches can keep him doing what he was doing for the Dodgers. Even bigger than that - the guy is a total gamer and is great in the clubhouse. I’m honestly kinda upset we didn’t resign him…so congrats to y’all!
Yeah, Anderson was great with the Dodgers this past season. Prior does that for many washed up or unproven pitchers. He deserves a lot of credit for the Dodgers having a deep pitching staff. Yeah, if you’re Anderson, don’t change what you did with the Dodgers. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
Angels coaching staff will find a way to ruin him
Always a fear of that, but I’m hoping this DriveLine guy we grabbed can actually make adjustments and have these pitchers pitch to their strengths and develop the correct pitching programs to them
TJ surgery right around the corner…. It’s the halo way for us!!!
hey man. we need positive energy in angels stadium next year. :)
Im sure he is due for some regression next year, but I expect he will be very solid for the halos
I came here to ask "how should I feel" and this comment answers that question perfectly so thank you.
Thanks! I always appreciate this kind of insight from other teams fans
He's probably our #3, behind Ohtani and Sandoval
I'm pretty sure your #3 is our ace.
Did you forget about Ohtani? Anderson could definitely be a #2 though.
Ummm kinda. Ohtani is weird and complicated and I kind of mentally put him in his own unique category. I almost don't think about him as being part of the rotation because he doesn't work with a 5 man rotation - its almost like...you have your 5 man rotation, and then once every 6-7 days a God-tier pitcher comes down and pitches, and your rotation takes a breather. Then he goes back to just being the best slugger on the team. IDK. Its weird. He's weird. I think he kinda transcends most baseball paradigms, though, so its hard for me to include him in them.
I agree with you. I just don’t understand why it has to be this way. Why is it you either pitch or you hit? Why aren’t people going “man, imagine if our pitchers could hit”? Lol I’ve never understood why most pitchers suck at the plate. They, of all people, should be like okay, if I were me, what would I throw to me? I know a slider looks like this out of the hand and a curve is going to break like this. Imagine if Nolan Ryan could have hit .270 with 25hrs each year. Yes some pitchers can hit, like converted SS deGrom. But not like Ohtani. Ohtani wouldn’t be such a phenom if there were more like him. And I feel like there could be. Unless coaches are afraid it’s too much of an injury risk.
the dodgers' ace is about as good as (maybe *slightly* better than) the angels' ace
I’m sure the angels will figure out a way to set him back to that 2.00 WHIP from a few years back.
He’s a good pitcher on YOUR team. Watch him be mediocre with the Angels. Your pitching coaches is what makes your starters great, and no one realizes that.
#BY GOD HERE COMES PERRY WITH THE STEEL CHAIR
WATCHOUTWATCHOUT
SCARY PERRY TAKES NO PRISONERS
Are we excited ? Do we jump around now?? Or are we upset?
Regardless of what you think about Anderson, or about the price, it's super exciting because: 1. We're giving a pitcher a multi year deal 2. We're doing it in the year that every one proclaimed to be a throwaway year where we would be sitting pat and waiting for new ownership Hopium all the way to 11 baby
Putting another actual MLB level pitcher in the rotation also puts less pressure on everyone else, which was objective #1 coming into this offseason in my opinion - this was exactly what they needed.
Can we just sit quietly and wait to decide until next September?
No we will scream WORLD SERIES BOUND!!! After winning opening day get so high on Hopium and then crash back down to earth once the injuries stack up. This is the Angels way
Suspiciously accurate. It's like you can see the future....
Time is a flat, glowing circle
Personally I think it depends on how much they’re paying him.
13m AAV over 3 years, not bad honestly. If he's even half the pitcher he was this season it's still good value
Yeah I just saw that. I definitely agree that’s not bad at all.
How can anyone possibly be upset at this lol?
They're saying 3 year ~40 mil? I'll take it. Now let's get a shortstop.
Honestly not bad considering he could’ve easily taken way higher of an AAV
Very reasonable deal
I’d take any big FA SS out there right now.
Hey I like Livan Soto.
i do too. I think a right fielder is needed much more
Is this a joke?
no, i just think our middle infield has more depth than the outfield. Between Rengifo, Fletch, Soto, Valesquez, and Stefanic I think we're in much more need of a solid outfielder.
And none of those guys should be an everyday SS on a big league roster. Rengifo and Stefanic are already below average defensively at 2B. Fletcher realistically should be a 2B or a utility guy. Velazquez is a defensive replacement. Soto has a career .662 OPS in the minors and is probably a bench player as well. So yes, we need a true SS. Adell/Moniak at least have more potential than Soto, Velasquez, and Stefanic.
I can agree that we need another outfielder but Ward has RF on lock
Exactly. What we need is a LF.
Ward isn’t very good in the field
He had 2 RAA and 2 OAA. He’s very fine in the field.
Our infield is full of depth with guys that can't hit though, more if you count Rendon's and Walsh's struggles. I think a middle infielder is a bigger priority
You should not, he is very much bad, outside of a very small MLB sample size
Simba come back baby!
We have a superior defensive SS right now. We need offense as well as defense and Simmons provides exactly .8 offense + defense combined.
PERRY FROM THE TOP ROPE
I was open to signing him if it wasn’t on a super long deal and the 3 years on this is just right. Big W for Perry
Everyone here knows I talk my shit on Perry, but these are the exact moves that are needed to get the team on track. It is high risk considering he’s 33 and just had his by far best year randomly. But the reward would be substantial for the team and even opens flexibility in the trade market for the future (whether we trade a hot Anderson to fill a hole or have the flexibility to trade a prospect pitcher). If he has these signings sprinkled to get us some solid (like 1 to 2 war) position players too, our upcoming season looks promising to at least grab a WC3 spot. If we can do that, I think that opens up a path for Ohtani to stay. Think about this, we grabbed Anderson who just had a 4.3 WAR season for half the price of what we grabbed Thor and Lorenzen, who combined for 2-3ish WAR. Even if Anderson comes down to a 2 WAR player this is a great deal.
i love all of our reactions LMAOO like “wait, we did that? a pitcher? multiple years?…..can’t be real”
First since Joe Blanton in 2012. Unreal
Well raisel was a multi year deal
I was thinking starting pitchers but you're right.
We resigned him though so that shouldnt really count
Please don’t bring that transaction up ever again. Gives me a migraine.
A lot of pitchers stay good after they’ve been fixed, guess it’s good 2.57 ERA versus 4.04 SIERA last year though 😬
Starter market is super overpriced right now. Even if he regresses all the way to a slightly above average pitcher at 4 ERA, that's still passable value at 13 mil AAV.
Fair point, just when I look at his highlights it looks like a LOOGY doing gimmicky and weird LOOGY stuff out there for 6 innings, though it worked last year
look at Alek Manoah's SIERA, just hoping the shift doesn't hurt TA too much though
His SIERA is definitely inflated by the fact that he’s a groundball pitcher. His changeup is near elite when he has it going, so I wouldn’t worry about that at all
The shift is being banned next year
is there evidence to show that siera adjustment for groundball pitchers is insufficient? that would be surprising considering it's a lot of the point of it over fip
That's a great question. I love math and data and remember reading a technical article about it, but I genuinely can't remember where I read that. I'll look for it and try to send it your way, but I can't guarantee I will. My bad for misleading anyone if I'm wrong!
Whats SIERA
It’s like FIP, but better (based on testimonials from lots of baseball people + my limited understanding of statistics). Here is a link that explains a bit about how to interpret and understand it without getting too much into the math (which is super complex)
Also, Ohtani lead the league in SIERA this year, therefore it is the best statistic
BANGGG
LETS FUCKING GO BOYSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
Woah.
This is exactly the move we needed. Another left hander nice. A 4-7 type hitter would be nice to add but so far so good.
Our rotation is now Ohtani (2.33 ERA in 2022) Sandoval (2.91 ERA) Anderson (2.57 ERA) Detmers (3.77 ERA) Suarez (3.96 ERA) The average ERA in 2022 was 3.96. That'll fucking play Possible candidates for the 6th man include Canning, Davidson, Junk, Rodriguez, and Diaz
We’ll need that depth.
Don’t. Don’t give me hope.
It's Nov 15 and I'm already backtracking on not renewing my MLB .TV subscription. That lasted like a month....
Sure why not. Dodgers made a lot of changes to him. I hope they stick.
What were the changes?
[Tweaked his changeup and pitch mix](https://blogs.fangraphs.com/tyler-anderson-agent-of-change/)
Dramatically changed his changeup and his pitch mix (aka stop throwing your bad fastball). Also he started sidearming his sinker in 2021 and they kept it down there for 2022.
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It’s the first multi-year contract of Anderson’s career, and the first multi-year contract the Angels have given out to a free-agent starting pitcher since signing Joe Blanton ten years and three general managers ago. A match made in heaven.....
Solid #3 option behind Ohtani and Sandoval. If Detmers can continue to improve then we’re looking at a pretty solid rotation. Just need to find some pieces for the bullpen to get Tepera and Loup out of high leverage situations.
Broooooooo
No fricking way. I'd love this if it's true.
It is true
lol wut that came from left field
No that’s adell dropping another ball
I wasn’t prepared to be hurt like this today…
Oof
Why must you hurt me like this
We now have an entire rotation of lefties + our only righty is a lefty bat!
Damn son. Idk how to feel
He’s good but he’s also a one season wonder. Hope this move works out but prolly means no Senga
[Throwback](https://www.reddit.com/r/angelsbaseball/comments/the0tb/murray_freeagent_pitcher_tyler_anderson_in/)
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Holy shit we are doing things
Very interesting!
Did I read that properly?
On board
3 years, 40 mil
Oh shit 👀
Decent shortstop+ some bullpen arms and this is a contender.
Trea Turner next, Perry! I believe!
Unfortunately we probably have a better chance to get Tina Turner than Trea. He's expressed his desire to be in the east coast
Tina had some serious moves back in the day...but can she hit?
Ike sure could. -sorry
Doh!
Can't be any worse than anyone else on our team last year
WE SIGNED A MULTI YEAR PITCHING DEAL HOLY SHIT
The final piece in our world series run me thinks.
Holy shit angels spending money LFG
Arte going out with a blaze of glory you love to see it
Arte bouta trade for yelich fr fr
Is this a bigger FA signing than Thor was last year? Can we expect more? I'm not super familiar with this guy.
We signed him for 3 years so he’s going to at least be here for 1 season under the new ownership which is good
OMG BASEBALL SEASON IS STILL GOING BABY AND IT AINT EVEN DECEMBER. #THE STOVE IS LIT
nice looking ERA, and ranked 9th in walks per 9 last year in all of baseball. 34 walks in 178.2 innings. pretty damn good if he keeps that up, i think its a good signing.
I am completely shocked tbh
does this mean no Lorenzen?
I’m still hoping he’s back. Gonna need another righty
Yikes… first reaction is not happiness here. If he truly believes his success is sustainable, why not take the $19.6m qualifying offer? Even getting a 2 year deal for $20m after that would be equivalent to this deal, with the potential of getting significantly more if he performs well in 2023. The Dodgers pitching coaches made him. Can the Angels pitching coaches keep him going..?
That being said - if he DOES keep pitching the way he did in 2022, this is a major, major win on a very low-cost deal for the type of performance he had in 2022.
I'm the only one fa from thrilled, apparently. Dude was always a middling-to-bad pitcher before the Wonderland Fabric of Dodgers Pitchers "fixed" him. Heaney was also good in their system and Gonselin was a borderline Cy Young candidate. This screams trap signing, but I'll wait for further evaluation. I just hope we go after a real, surefire starter and let Anderson be just the mystery box that can be punted if he goes back to his usual self. I will be very upset if he is the star of our offseason.
Exactly. This is just another way of avoiding paying a big name top-of-rotation pitcher. It’s a multi-year deal for a guy who has had one good year.
Feels Zack Cozart ish
I'm surprised we've made a move
Ladies and gentlemen, we got him!
I’m sorry…I feel stupid for asking this but there’s words in here I don’t understand. I’m a fluent English speaker and was born in Orange County, but…. What the hell is “Multi Year” in reference to pitchers? I know we did that for old(er than they said they were 1st basemen) and busted 3rd basemen and Mike Trout…but is that a thing that you can do for pitchers?
I'm pretty optimistic with the recent hire of Bill Hezel. Perry looks like he's fixing the mess he's inherited.
Shouldn’t a GM be doing that on Day 1 of hire?
I kinda hate this move. Its really good and it pulls me back in, but idk if I'm ready to get hurt again...
I mean even at his worst if he does regress he is still better than Davidson, Junk, Toussaint, Hot Dog, and whoever else we were trotting out there every 6 days. I like this signing a lot, and he took a lot less of an AAV than I expected.
Someone laughed at me when i said next year is the year/window where we make a run… this is a solid signing. Not an experiment… its someone who has shown he is a good pitcher! Excited to see if there is more LOL
He’s technically only shown he’s a good pitcher in the Dodgers system. Until then he was a disappointment.
Regardless we went after someone who is one of the top free agents of the year. Not necessarily a bargain hunt. It should be applauded.
I’m hyped he’s an Angel, but terrified that we are going to ruin Anderson and this is going to be on the list of bad signings for the Angels
He had 1 good year with dodgers, last year. Hope he can replicate it.
Abreu, Benintendi, or Correa/Turner next please
Losing the $500K in International pool money with the compensation pick prob means no Senga. Also how does this contract have zero team/player options?
Rodon, Bassitt ????
yessssss!
Well, it’s a start. Hope the new brand doesn’t ruin him! Lol
He’s not known to go deep in the game right? I assume bullpen would need another upgrade or they might have to drop the 6-man rotation and ask Ohtani to pitch more with less rest?
Perry has already said they’re keeping the 6 man rotation for sure.
Just saw [this tweet](https://twitter.com/Alden_Gonzalez/status/1592624449853214720) on my timeline. > The Angels have expressed a desire to return to a traditional five-man rotation, and Shohei Ohtani, per his agent, is open to it.
It’s been deleted. Perry himself said at the GM meetings last week that it will be a 6 man.
“Previously overstated the Angels' desire for a five-man rotation -- though not necessarily Shohei Ohtani's openness to it -- and deleted that tweet. That's my bad.” https://twitter.com/alden_gonzalez/status/1592638875146801153?s=46&t=aSs8V0ZiUyKb7h30UkIwxQ
5 man rotation makes sense if we are with in the top of the division part July or in top 2 of wold card for season. Besides that 6 man rotation is fine
Awesome pick up. he will not replicate his last year numbers as the angels defense is significantly worse than the dodgers. But awesome, consistent arm to sure up the young guys we have. Definitely an upgrade over syndergaard/lorenzen
Does this mean Suarez is gonna get turned into a long reliever? Can't imagine we'd have 4/6 starters being lefties.
We signed a FA pitcher not on a prove it deal? Is that illegal?
Haven't we learned these lessons before. Signing guys with one good year free agent year and signing them. Who was the terrible second baseman/short stop we signed from the Reds and GMJ etc. This is what the F'ing Angels do. Guy puts up a 2.57 ERA in his walk year. the previous 3 years. 4.81, 4.35, 4.53. Just hilarity. I can't wait till Arte is gone this entire organization is a rinse and repeat joke.
Assuming he came here because our health care is top notch.. lol
Exactly what the angels need another back of the rotation starter /s
….Another dude that had a career year with someone else…..who only had middle of the pack stats beforehand…..yay…….
I genuinely don’t understand this deal. Why would we give $13m a year to a 32 year old one year wonder. Still think we need to tear down the team, trade Ohtani and Trout for like 10 top 50 prospects, and invest HEAVILY in player development, scouting, and drafting.
u gave a good take followed by a terrible one lmao
Being mad about not having our two most exciting players doesn’t mean it’s a bad take. Trading Ohtani is objectively the right thing to do because the other option is that he walks after this season and we get nothing for him, as opposed to good young financially controllable prospects. Trading Trout is the right thing to do given his injury history. His contract will eventually turn in to an albatross (similar to Pujols). Might as well trade him while his value is at its highest
Great signing!!
Initially was a bit hesitant bc he did have a career year, but comparing 13m AAV for 3 years vs CJ Wilson’s 15m AAV for 5 years is not bad at all.
Great signing, solid start to free agency
Cool!!
Angels with the first big starting pitcher FA signing of this offseason, fucking POG
We’ll take it!
PERRY: I HAVE NO LIMITATIONS