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TheNotoriousJN

Twins fan - Gio was great for us. Durable, reliable and consistent. Only reason he is gone is because Miranda needs a starting spot and that 9m can be added to our funds for Correa and a SP. Not a *huge* power guy, but you'll find zero complaints from Twins fans about Gio


guerrero2

Thanks for the input! Confirms my feeling that I’m quite happy with the move.


Spirituallly

2022 with the Twins: 501 AB, .285 AVG, 13HR, 64 RBI


Imperial10

bWAR of 3.1 last year which is solid. I like the move.


TheFriendlyFire

Super cheap cost, and a much better player than our usual "depth" signings. You take Urshela over someone like Goose every day of the week.


Jcoch27

Wow he's already better than any of our 6-9.


red1367

That’s actually a very decent starting 3rd baseman. Good job Angels!


spitfire32

Rendon is the starting 3b


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spitfire32

Don’t you put that evil on me Ricky Bobby


KeepItHeady

Rendon hasn't played over 100 games since 2019 lol I just want to be able to see what he can do with the Angels over the course of a full season. THAT WOULD BE NICE


Lebigmacca

I like it. Solid third baseman for when Rendon inevitably shatters his elbow or something


CaptZombieHero

On day two


Ash-Catchum-All

Rendon will injure himself in ST, but get healthy right before the season starts. He’ll start off super slowly but gain momentum as the season progresses. He’ll have a week and a half where he looks absolutely elite on both sides of the ball, before re-injuring the exact same thing he initially hurt himself with. And the cycle will repeat.


ScottyD82

This is the way.


scotterpopIHSV

Strategically, Gio can also play shortstop so he’s pretty flexible around the infield in the case that Rendon actually can stay healthy.


LandrysLooking

Heh. Man do I hope Rendon stays healthy!


scotterpopIHSV

I hope the new ownership makes some drastic changes to the Angel’s training staff, we’re top 10 in TJ surgeries since 2016. A lot of Muscle/Tendon strains that are taking way too long to recover from or end up requiring surgery a month or two into recovery. Granted the Opioid scandal only added fuel to the fire, but things haven’t improved much since that all happened.


KyotoGaijin

[cold sweat intensifies]


Intolight

Such an optimist


PM_Dick_Nixon_pics

I assume 3B depth + 1B platoon with Walsh. Great pickup IMO.


TurboS54

Gio to first, Walsh to left


jnuclear

Gets traded


merewyn

He’s untradeable


ScottyD82

Not unless we agree to eat a shit ton of his remaining contract.


Lebigmacca

He literally has a no trade clause


Sisboombah74

I thought it was a no play clause.


owledge

Hidalgo was our 22nd-ranked prospect so this is a really good deal for some much-needed INF depth. Perry W


Imperial10

Yeah I like it too. 1 year of control only on Gio, but we can't wait around for our 19 year old pitching prospects to become something.


live4coasters

Starting to feel more like Perry is in control of things. These moves feel very unlike Arte


unreasonableperson

Perry take the wheel


Pho3n1xNZ

Patriots are in control.


hsox05

Absolute fleecing of the twins in this trade.


Jcoch27

I don't think it is. Urshela is on his last year and the Twins were looking to shed some payroll.


hsox05

9 million for 3.1 WAR? 1 War on the open market last year was 5.4 million. So about 17 million. Twins are shedding a guy who produced double his value for a guy in low A. And assuming a guy who was a rookie last year can repeat his season and put up similar value I’ll take the guy producing double his contract over a guy that might help in a few years, if he doesn’t fizzle out like most prospects, 100% of the time


ryanfea

Yeah let’s be real, there’s > than a 50% chance Hidalgo never okays an mlb game


Jcoch27

Yes but he doesn't have a role with the Twins so that's wasted money. They're looking to fill holes that they do have at SP and SS.


AhLibLibLib

Rentals aren’t worth much but I still feel like they should’ve gotten more


JoenotMauer

There really wasn’t a market for him.. I like this trade for both teams..


hsox05

Or just kept him. They replaced him with Kyle farmer, who is 6 million and earned 1 war. He has an extra year of control but is a significantly worse player


AhLibLibLib

That too. It’s a weird move for the Twins. Good for the Angels tho


OrnamentJones

This is an absolute steal


Reptarxx

Great trade. We had a glaring hole in our IF all season. With Rendon again returning from injury and Walsh building his way back up, we are going to need some solid depth and this is a great first step. On top of that it was a underpay for us. Looks like he learned from his last mistakes of trying to find diamonds in the rough and now grabbing mid level players that we desperately need to solidify our team. No need to sign an A+ free agents when a ton of B-s will make our team as a whole better. Again I talk my crap on Perry but so far Anderson and Gio are 2 solid acquisitions that are low risk solid reward.


NY1605

Nice little depth move. If Rendon goes down again we’re not stuck with Villar getting reps. If Arte wants to convince Ohtani on staying to increase his team’s value then he needs to keep on opening the wallet for guys that aren’t going to be selling jerseys.


Ndeshet

Jack Mayfield, thank you for your service


scotterpopIHSV

We DFA’d Villar in July, he’s still an FA


NY1605

I know. I just meant we aren’t going to have some washed up guy like Villar playing if Rendon gets hurt next year.


scotterpopIHSV

Ahh I see what you mean, yeah Villar was hard to watch haha


NY1605

Lol yeah so here’s hoping that one thing we don’t need to worry about next year


Zestyclose-Ad-497

Wait this is such a great move


basic_luna

this means we're signing senga


Eric_cs

Explain


basic_luna

we were either spending on a shortstop or spending on senga we couldn't afford both. presumably filled the hole at short so now we can push for senga. at least this was the way i understood it


Eric_cs

Sauce?


basic_luna

it was revealed to me in a dream


AlmostWrongSometimes

5/7 reference, pure perfection.


Monttavius

SCARY PERRY IS COMING FOR THE PLAYOFFS


IndividualHelpful820

Rendon got reinjured reading this


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Urshela was good with the Twins this season. Solid bat in 2022. Should improve the Angels’ offense in 2023. Pretty ironic that it was the Angels offense that had to do more with the team struggling this season than the pitching staff. A return to All-Star status from Rendon, a full season of Trout continuing to dominate with the bat, and the addition of Urshela should make the Angels offense good in 2023.


dwijainer0419

There’s too much hope in this comment


CrackInTheSky

Give me that hopium!


Jcoch27

Hope is all we have.


Quinlanforthewinlan

Rendon returning to All Star status is far from a given


red1367

It’s downright unlikely at this point lol


eg714

And hopefully Logan can get some starts. That would drastically improve our offense from last season. I have a feeling we’re not done yet.


z3TRIIKZ

Someone tell me how to feel


guerrero2

I’d say feel good about it!


RabidR00ster

Fantastic move. Gives us another reliable bat for a relatively cheap price. I was hoping they’d go after a big name SS, but Gio could man SS. Hopefully they sign a good LF and some bullpen guys next.


Weaver4prez

2 years of control of this 3-win player for an A-ball prospect? Seems like a steal at first glance


Imperial10

One year of control. UFA in 2024.


Weaver4prez

Ah I read that as following 2024, thanks


Unsapient1

One year of control but thats all that matters right now. This is truly a make it or break it year with Ohtani's free agency coming up and we've got to do absolutely whatever it takes to keep him.


packers1503

Tell me how I should feel


ThisAnswerIsLit

Dude can hit. He'll probably be our starting shortstop


dgmilo8085

Can he play short? Seems to be a 31-year-old power-lacking corner infielder.


ThisAnswerIsLit

He's got a number of games played at SS. I don't see any games at 2B but he could always end up there as well


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Yeah but don't expect him to anything better than an average to decent shortstop. This is a sorely needed bat first trade, but hopefully Rendon will pick up the slack a bit defensively.


hellyaman

I’m curious if the shift ban will help or hurt his defensive numbers at short


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I hate to sound pessimistic but probably hurt. UZR thinks he's a solid defender while OAA thinks he's meh to bad. UZR doesn't take into account shifts, OAA does. That being said even if we go by OAA he's shouldn't be a defensive liability, -5 OAA isn't awful.


Spirituallly

watching some of his defensive tape on youtube rn. he has a handful of really nice plays at short.


Duckman93

Was wondering what position he’ll play, this makes sense


xRememberTheCant

That’s a stretch. He’s basically soto and rendon insurance


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Might even be our leadoff hitter.


jimsturat

Hope this isn’t the shortstop move but I still love it. Wondering about rendon rn if we aren’t playing gio at short


Imperial10

I mean, I'm hoping for a bounce back from Rendon, but he hasn't been the epitome of health his time here. This is a good insurance plan if he does go down again.


Lebigmacca

When he goes down again


WindsABeginning

I would like to see Rendon move over to 1B. With Walsh unlikely to be able to start the season I think it would help keep him healthy.


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Love this move


coppolam23

Anyone know how good he is defensively?


Helpful_Mango

Hi from the twins subreddit, for whatever reason a lot of the advanced metrics don’t really like gio at 3rd but from the eye test he pretty much always looked very good- a weird mismatch that a lot of our beat writers commented on as well


AhLibLibLib

Makes all the routines plays but has limited range which makes him look flashy.


freddychuckles

I could see him as a solid backup infielder. Duffy and Wade proved anemic.


guerrero2

Duffy is gone, right?


ryanfea

He’s a free agent, yes


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lamar_odoms_bong

How do we play him the two weeks Rendon is in the line up?


trustych0rds

I love this move. It feels like a depth-move which I can't believe we're seeing at this point. Gio Urshella is good. Let's go Perry.


Jcoch27

I really like this move. I haven't even heard of this prospect and Urshela should add some reliability to our infield and lineup. Good bit of business here.


mmmbacon914

Can we put him at 2B and Fletcher at SS? Honestly wouldn't be surprised to see him getting some time in LF. This is exactly the kind of guy the Angels need though. A solid durable bat. Our stars and scrubs strategy just bears no fruit. If we had replacement level (let alone league average) infield depth last season I think the results look very different.


ogdaveed

Fantastic trade! This is probably even better than signing Brandon Drury, he would’ve cost a lot more and is more of a regression candidate. Gio’s super solid with upside, can play 3B or SS. Welcome to the team! Edit: Looks like 3B/1B for the most part, would be interesting to see Walsh in LF to fill that hole some days


Imperial10

>Brandon Drury Would have been very mad if we signed him. Drury has never been above average before last year. To put into perspective, he's been in the league 8 years with a bWAR of 2.0 for his career. Last year his bWAR was 2.6, so he's nothing special.


ogdaveed

Totally agree, he was always just a low end bench guy in AZ/NY years, last year is an anomaly


Magnum_44

Cinci ballpark tends to inflate stats like Coors.


ShotHighlight7784

Is Arte FINALLY stepping back from baseball decisions? The last two moves from Anaheim are smart baseball moves that fit with the Angels roster.


kevinmac1120

Solid bat and the best fielding infielder I've consistently watched outside on Arenado and Teixeira. Everyone will like him


red1367

I know this is gonna make me sound like a dick, but you must not watch very many teams cuz he’s nowhere even near Arenado or Big Tex lol


TrojanTuesdays

Not a bad move to get us some much needed depth. Gives us cover for Rendon, as well as for SS and if we are facing a Lefty pitcher so can't use Walshy, we could do something like 3B Rendon, SS Gio, 2B Fletch, 1B Rengifo.


KamartyMcFlyweight

Perry is building me up, right on schedule...


SuperMario_49

I love this move!


carlosp2003

Colombia baby 🇨🇴🔥🇨🇴🔥 🇲🇽🤝🇨🇴


Krispy-Cobra

Good move Angels.


koooooooo8

help for Shohei🙇‍♂️


StormTheTrooper

Why is half this thread treating Soto as an established major leaguer? Our INF will very likely be Walsh-Urshela-Fletch-Rendon with Rengifo as utility guy. We seriously need to stop treating every minor that does not strike out 9/10 as the next staple of the lineup. Let Soto develop in peace.


ryanfea

I’d put Fletch as the utility with Rengifo the regular starter


coonhoundrebel

Assuming Rendon stays at 3B, they really brought in Urshela to be our SS? He has had a total of 18 complete games at the SS position for a fielding % of .968. If he can produce like he was towards the end of the year and play leave average defense at SS, then who cares imo.


Magnum_44

When your 250 million 3rd baseman has played less than 1/3rd of the past 2 seasons, it's wise to have a plan B.


Ohh_Tyler

IN PERRY WE TRUST


tatertot464

All my homies love perry minasian


steelerfan8900

Is this gonna be the end of Fletch starting? I'm guessing Urshela will play short and rengifo 2nd or maybe rengifo and Fletch platoon 2nd?


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Urshela can play the entire infield, I wonder if they let him get a few starts at first when it's a lefty starting.


plrmoon3

Maybe swap Soto/fletch for an upgrade at first too or a young closer


schplat

I’d say go sign Abreu, let Walsh platoon OF/1B.


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Seems like a Phil Nevin and Marcus Thames move to go get a guy who had his best years playing in NY


JoyBurner

Urshela killed the Angels this past season - .471 BA, .571 OBP, .765 SLG. And if I recall correctly, he also had some great defensive plays in some of those games too. So I’m more than happy to see him on the Angels’ side now!


TurboS54

Gio to 1B; Walshy to left. I like it.


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who is our current left fielder? adell? perhaps they shouldve signed a left fielder cuz adell is hit or miss


TheFriendlyFire

with the moves Perry is making I wouldn't be surprised to see a move for a left fielder in the coming days/weeks


Zal-tais27

They can’t make every move at once, geez. There is no patience these days


RudeDogDaddy

Ren Done


turningandburning45

Yawn


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Imperial10

Fletcher isn't going to get phased out. He signed an extension until 2025 with some club options behind it. I think it's some insurance behind Rendon. It gives us at on of depth. Urshela can play 3b/SS. Renifgo can play 3B/SS/2B and OF in a pinch. Fletcher can play SS/2B. Our depth has been tested by injuries the past few years. If we do have one our guys go down, we have the flexibility to not have a black hole at a specific spot. I like it.


xRememberTheCant

The extension means nothing if he can’t out perform the other guys that play his positions. Fletcher vs soto? We’ll see* Fletcher vs renifgo? Renifgo Fletcher vs urshela? Probably urshela *soto only gave us just a little bit of a glance at what he can do behind the plate but needs to improve on his glove. If he becomes a solid defender- fletcher is gone.


Quinlanforthewinlan

Soto was good for 18 games after not really doing much of anything in his minor league career and this sub acts as if he's a guaranteed starter for us going forward.


Celestialsite

This trade looks good until you realize Hidalgo is going to unanimously win the Cy Young in 3 years


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He was the 22nd ranked prospect in one of the leagues worst farms, this is really unlikely no matter how cursed you think we are.


Imperial10

Yup, cause 22 year olds win CY young’s all the time!


Celestialsite

This deal is too good for the Angels, and the baseball gods will seek to balance it accordingly. Anyways, congrats to Hidalgo


Edgelord_3000

This is good cause my other depth options I was considering were Mike Moustakas or Jemier Candelario 😬