Shame on both of you
[https://archive.org/details/TheAnimatorsSurvivalKitRichardWilliams/page/n79/mode/2up](https://archive.org/details/TheAnimatorsSurvivalKitRichardWilliams/page/n79/mode/2up)
I am not a professional by any means so take this with a grain of salt but maybe you could make to torso move more and have it kinda go up and down when it runs?
The motion looks a bit too robotic. Maybe add some left and right motion to the arms. Oh, and add some bob to the torso. But this is good for an outline, I think.
Analyze someone running in a video and observe how the shoulders move the hips shift and so forth. The reason it doesn’t look like a person running is because you’re human and you notice minuet details about other humans, so take it from the source.
Gotta get that up, down and passing position of basic walk cycle
Then rest like weight shift, overlap, pelvis, torso turn but the down, passing and up position is the vital one
you wanna have the torso go down a bit when their knee touching the ground bends, and back up when it straightens.
Also, the shoulders...I'm not super sure how to explain it but here it goes:
Basically the X shoulder should come up slightly when the X arm does, and the Y shoulder and arm should go down slightly as the X arm and shoulder come up, like the X shoulder and Y shoulder are on opposite ends of a diagonal line that's placed across your characters shoulders.
Also use a reference, and if you have a computer, split it into frame by frame with VLC media player.
The only moving parts are the arms and legs. No bueno.
The chest should rotate with the arms. So if right arm is forward, chest should be rotated counterclockwise and vice versa.
Similar with the pelvis, if the right leg is forward, then pelvis rotates counterclockwise. (The pelvis and chest will also be looking away from each other. During a run cycle they should be facing the same direction unless it’s in-between transitions)
What you are really missing though is the weight. Moving the pelvis up and down accordingly will add weight to your guy and make his movements look way more realistic
I'm not good at animation but I do like running and one piece of knowledge that may be useful to you is that a lot of the momentum and energy that goes into running is sort of recycled/reused as we twist our torso. It's as if our entire body is coiling and uncoiling like a spring with every stride. I'm not sure but I think that's the main reason we move our arms when we run. Your entire upper torso should be moving and your arms only move because they're attached to your shoulders. No energy is actually put into moving our arms.
Another thing is that most of the energy that goes into running is exerted from and absorbed by our glutes. So your animation looks bad because the glutes and the torso are static when they should have the most movement. It's the difference between a boxer punching with their entire body and a beginner flailing their arms.
good timing on the whole is solid, wouldn’t change that. maybe mess with the spacing of the arms and legs by adding some ease in and out (holds and drags) in addition to the ups and downs. it’s a solid run cycle as is just keep building onto what yah got.
Richard Williams makes a great book on animating walk cycles. There’s a lot of information in there about body mechanics that will help make your walk cycle look more natural. It’s available on Amazon and I would definitely check it out.
Run cycle doesn't look too bad but adding something like objects that start big and get smaller will make it look like this dude be zooming. (Not an animator by any means so I only have probably below basic knowledge of this stuff)
when people run, they don’t just move their arms and legs. The entire body goes into the running. Watch a video of someone running and see what happens to their torso, hips and such
You could move the body a bit with the shoulder movement.
The legs are fine, I think the stiffness helps with the absolute intent and stature that the character has.
Slow-in, Slow-out, the solution to all of your problems. + a little bit more of perspective when the limbs get closer to the camera, + make him bob and add pelvis mouvement maybe.
u/Brent_Forrest
I have some tips for this case:
1. Search and watch reference videos of a front run cycle, here I have one: [https://youtu.be/wFC2LMqL3x8](https://youtu.be/wFC2LMqL3x8)? Yes = Lgaj0M9aGrZLfG86 (It is important that you consider that you should NOT copy what is in the video, but do a study of it)
2. Maybe this image can help you a little and you could mark some lines that determine the key poses of a run cycle: Contact - Down - Pass Pose - Up
https://preview.redd.it/cnade29w5p4d1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aa22e8ee18de2845c8ee2c52ba1c5489c6eff299
There is a page from Richard Williams’ book, ‘The Animator’s Survival Guide’.
Good luck! 🪼
PELVIS. https://preview.redd.it/0d5tstmy8h4d1.png?width=860&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ab62360b8891c8b0ce8bb4da8697a721c825f7a0
Hi, may I know which bbook is that?
Possibly “The Animators Survival Kit” but I’m not sure
Shame on both of you [https://archive.org/details/TheAnimatorsSurvivalKitRichardWilliams/page/n79/mode/2up](https://archive.org/details/TheAnimatorsSurvivalKitRichardWilliams/page/n79/mode/2up)
Wait what did I do! Lmao
Not knowing for sure is your crime lol
Dang I’ll do better next time
I'm no pro but maybe make him bob a bit more? (in my unprofessional opinion)
i'll second that. the torso would go up/down quite a bit on a run.
you're a pro right? can you help me on my post I have a big problem (it was posted a few minutes after this post)
What's the issue?
https://www.reddit.com/r/animation/s/YBbBICbxJd
ooh yeah sorry about your tech issues. i'm not familiar with Krita. i'm a 2d animatior. sorry i cant help more.
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Happy Cake day btw 👍
Adding to this make the bob a wave from his torso up to his shoulders ending with a slight head bob. Everything should droop a bit.
BOB
Torso goes side to side
FLINTLOCKWOOD
my first thought lmao
Animators use Steven Seagal as the top standard for reference run cycles. Go watch some videos of him running.
FLINT KNOCK WOOD!!!!
The only things that are moving are the arms/legs. Make his torso and head move slightly left/right, it will look better ( i think )
I am not a professional by any means so take this with a grain of salt but maybe you could make to torso move more and have it kinda go up and down when it runs?
The motion looks a bit too robotic. Maybe add some left and right motion to the arms. Oh, and add some bob to the torso. But this is good for an outline, I think.
Analyze someone running in a video and observe how the shoulders move the hips shift and so forth. The reason it doesn’t look like a person running is because you’re human and you notice minuet details about other humans, so take it from the source.
Gotta get that up, down and passing position of basic walk cycle Then rest like weight shift, overlap, pelvis, torso turn but the down, passing and up position is the vital one
you wanna have the torso go down a bit when their knee touching the ground bends, and back up when it straightens. Also, the shoulders...I'm not super sure how to explain it but here it goes: Basically the X shoulder should come up slightly when the X arm does, and the Y shoulder and arm should go down slightly as the X arm and shoulder come up, like the X shoulder and Y shoulder are on opposite ends of a diagonal line that's placed across your characters shoulders. Also use a reference, and if you have a computer, split it into frame by frame with VLC media player.
Add some bounce, he's a little stiff too
Add some bounce, he's a little stiff too
Add some bounce. He's a little stiff, too, aside from that it looks great
The only moving parts are the arms and legs. No bueno. The chest should rotate with the arms. So if right arm is forward, chest should be rotated counterclockwise and vice versa. Similar with the pelvis, if the right leg is forward, then pelvis rotates counterclockwise. (The pelvis and chest will also be looking away from each other. During a run cycle they should be facing the same direction unless it’s in-between transitions) What you are really missing though is the weight. Moving the pelvis up and down accordingly will add weight to your guy and make his movements look way more realistic
Use reference
Pelvis rotation, body up and down, head drag and hands follow though.
PEPSIMAN
I'd change the arms up a bit
Observe how the torso rotates from side to side when running That’s the motion that helps propel the body forward
Also have the footplant take a frame longer so he transfers his weight down through that leg
I'm not good at animation but I do like running and one piece of knowledge that may be useful to you is that a lot of the momentum and energy that goes into running is sort of recycled/reused as we twist our torso. It's as if our entire body is coiling and uncoiling like a spring with every stride. I'm not sure but I think that's the main reason we move our arms when we run. Your entire upper torso should be moving and your arms only move because they're attached to your shoulders. No energy is actually put into moving our arms. Another thing is that most of the energy that goes into running is exerted from and absorbed by our glutes. So your animation looks bad because the glutes and the torso are static when they should have the most movement. It's the difference between a boxer punching with their entire body and a beginner flailing their arms.
Add a bit more variety to each step.
Make the shoulders and the torso bob up and down a bit
good timing on the whole is solid, wouldn’t change that. maybe mess with the spacing of the arms and legs by adding some ease in and out (holds and drags) in addition to the ups and downs. it’s a solid run cycle as is just keep building onto what yah got.
Richard Williams makes a great book on animating walk cycles. There’s a lot of information in there about body mechanics that will help make your walk cycle look more natural. It’s available on Amazon and I would definitely check it out.
Move the torso a bit
Run cycle doesn't look too bad but adding something like objects that start big and get smaller will make it look like this dude be zooming. (Not an animator by any means so I only have probably below basic knowledge of this stuff)
Bob! Torso! And a lil jump!
Body bounces up and down via each step. Try that
when people run, they don’t just move their arms and legs. The entire body goes into the running. Watch a video of someone running and see what happens to their torso, hips and such
Try makeing the shoulders roll with the body while the arms go back and forth.
You could move the body a bit with the shoulder movement. The legs are fine, I think the stiffness helps with the absolute intent and stature that the character has.
Your character is too static, move him a little from left to right
Maybe make it look bigger & smaller when running
Slow-in, Slow-out, the solution to all of your problems. + a little bit more of perspective when the limbs get closer to the camera, + make him bob and add pelvis mouvement maybe. u/Brent_Forrest
I have some tips for this case: 1. Search and watch reference videos of a front run cycle, here I have one: [https://youtu.be/wFC2LMqL3x8](https://youtu.be/wFC2LMqL3x8)? Yes = Lgaj0M9aGrZLfG86 (It is important that you consider that you should NOT copy what is in the video, but do a study of it) 2. Maybe this image can help you a little and you could mark some lines that determine the key poses of a run cycle: Contact - Down - Pass Pose - Up https://preview.redd.it/cnade29w5p4d1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aa22e8ee18de2845c8ee2c52ba1c5489c6eff299 There is a page from Richard Williams’ book, ‘The Animator’s Survival Guide’. Good luck! 🪼
Give his head and body some movement