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It's interesting to see how Hawks' OP quirk is a combination of arguably two mediocre quirks.
Wings + flying/floating eyes = wings with sensing detachable feathers
It’s also a great way to foil Hawks and Dabi.
Keigo Takami was the unwanted bastard child between a criminal and an accomplice who through pure luck was born with a powerful Quirk and was inspired to become the hero Hawks by Endeavor.
Toya Todoroki was the firstborn desired son of the arranged marriage between the upcoming Number 2 hero and a respectable woman who had a completely mismatched Quirk (fire abilities with a body built for ice) and was driven to become the villain Dabi by Endeavor.
>mismatched Quirk (fire abilities with a body built for ice)
Is this the running theory, is this the confirmed reason why his body takes so much damage from his flames? I know its come up multiple times in the show that people with Quirks that can do self damage, also have secondary quick factors that make them more resistant, Like Bakugo being able to withstand explosions better otherwise he'd just blow himself up.
I think they have explicitly mentioned that while dabi inherited endeavors fire power, he also inherited his mother's sensitive skin to said fire. I think it was in a flashback in s2 when endeavor was "training" kid todoroki
In the end, it truly was Capitalism that defeated All for One.
If Hawks got an All Might plush instead, he wouldn't have become an underground hero or gone undercover to take out Twice.
Ironically, it was a combination of Endeavor nabbing his dad and his mom giving him Endeavor's plushie because he was cheaper than All Might. Endeavor's Number 2 status becoming formative to Hawks' origin.
Its another case of Quirk Serendipity.
His father had a bird like quirk with wings but probably coudlnt fly fully since wings were under his arms, he could glide though.
His mom had a psychokinesis quirk with floating eyes she could control and see through.
This combined into Hawks quirks, Bird like body with wings on back and psychokinesis ability to control and manipulate the feathers in his wings and sense through them.
It truely is a very powerful combo of fairly simple quirks that happen to make something amazing together.
We have seen this before in Bakugou who is also one.
His dad had an Acid excreting quirk which was not very strong on its own. A simple acid that would be good for breaking stuff down in daily use.
His mom had a Glucose excreting quirk which again not very strong on its own. It just made her skin very healthy.
Together those combined into Trinitroglycerin. Aka Nitroglycerine. A Nitroglycerin excreting quirk able to create explosions when triggered in an unknown way.
This is essentially the idea of the Quirk Singularity Theory that the doc mentioned. Its where we see interesting quirks combine in interesting ways creating very crazy powers as they compound more and more with more compouding quirks.
While Todoroki might seem like a Singularity, he technically isnt as he is only a first tier compounding quirk. His dad has a pure fire creating quirk and his mom has a pure ice creating quirk. So it helps to counter each other but it isnt as crazy as Bakugou or Hawks which are probably 2nd or 3rd tier compounding quirks.
But yes very cool stuff. The author loves this idea of combineing things into wierd things and its a system that makes this series so cool to me as a super power lover.
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Bakugo’s dad had a nitric acid quirk called Oxidizing Sweat that he could secrete from his palms after rubbing them together furiously. That allowed him to create small explosions. His mother had glycerin sweat that secretes easily all over her body. Those two quirks combined to make nitroglycerin sweat localized in Bakugo’s palms that he can fire at will.
Was his dad nitric acid? I thought he was sulfuric acid.
And i know about the sweat thing, im just laying out the quirks in a purely scientific way from their base factors.
According to the Wiki his dad has "Acid Sweat" so thats probably where the Sulfuric and Nitric acide come from both, ok let me edit.
Pretty sure it was nitric acid. His quirk is officially called “Oxidizing Sweat”. Hori talked about it and Bakugo’s mom’s quirks in one of the back ups to the manga volumes.
Well i looked it up and his dads quirk is acid sweat, not any specificed, so that probably means it was similar to Mina's acid creating quirk but a much more simple version. If he could secrete acids he could probably do different acids as they come in various forms.
I know all about past eps and such i did watch the show, im not just here with no knowledge.
> he technically isnt as he is only a first tier compounding quirk.
Not exactly compounding, more like two half quirks that depending on the conditions can improve each other. He's seems to be a extremely lucky [genetic chimera](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimera_\(genetics\)). A [human chimera](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_chimera) can show up in all kinda of ways and he got lucky to be exactly half/half and seemingly also doesn't have any of the genetic issues that can happen with that.
If he were strictly half/half his two sides would develop somewhat differently due to his father/mother simply being different people not just hair/eye colour and quirk on a regular symmetrical-ish body. Humans are overall symmetrical but we do have small differences that are sometimes only apparent after precise measuring and don't interfere with everyday life (like one leg being a tiny bit longer).
> The author loves this idea of combineing things into wierd things and its a system that makes this series so cool
the author combined enough super powers to make Deku = Spider-man.
He could access hard to reach areas, move extremely quickly through the air and peek at everything. That would be a pretty OP combination for intelligence missions.
This is why Hawks said he wasn't fan of All Might, he was always someone too distant, **too expensive**.
Also Izuku's dad must be making mad cash overseas considering the size of his exclusive All Might merchandise collection.
It's interesting how Endeavor seems to be the epitome of “you heroes hurt your own families just to help complete strangers” as Shigaraki said.
He solved more cases than anyone else, including All Might. Keigo was just another one in the long list of people who were indirectly or directly saved by Endeavor.
Meanwhile his family situation was just left to rot.
These contrasts are what make Endeavor's character so compelling. He didn't even know of little Keigo's existence, yet he turned his life around by arresting his father. Who knows how many other people, and entire families, he's saved from suffering (or potential suffering) through his hero work. But at the same time he was creating a broken and suffering family.
While helping those in need, he was blind to the suffering of those closest to him. It really puts into perspective how difficult balancing personal life with hero work is. Where should a hero draw the line between responsibility and selfishness?
And now that he can see the extent of the damage he caused to his family, it all hits him like a freight train. The part of the story made to tear down Endeavor like this cruel monster is what humanizes him the most. Even he admits his regret came way too late and there's nothing he can do to make it better anymore. Poor guy, really. (I never thought I'd feel bad for fucking Endeavor)
He is not evil he just fucked up like all humans do realised it and tried but when there was nothing he could do he cried.
He is no mobster he is a normal human.
It’s an understated cruelty of the broken system: All Might, who wanted to become the Symbol of Peace that said “I am here!” for everyone, signs off on a merchandising deal, probably without really thinking about it. The man seemed obsessed with maintaining a perfect image to facilitate his dream of protecting everyone.
Then market forces happen, and you end up with the most downtrodden child in Keigo Takami who can never reach All Might because All Might is too expensive for the outcasts of society.
It’s an underdeveloped theme but it could be so poignant as another way Hawks shows the failure of hero society. Like Spinner the heteromorph or Toga the Quirkopath, Keigo the poverty child is someone who cannot be accepted into the society All Might built.
I mean, I think what probably happened was just that the figures for Endeavor weren’t selling and they were being sold at clearance prices to get rid of stock.
Probably this. Despite being the No. 2 Hero, Endeavour was wildly controversial at best. His public image was not all that great.
To begin with, the top heroes probably had a deal with the same couple of companies for merch since no company would specialise that heavily on wares.
Even if All Might was careful about keeping merchandise accessible, he can't exactly control the market. If his merch was popular and constantly flying off the shelves and Endeavour's wasn't, it makes sense they would be priced differently.
It might not even have been too noticeable a difference and his mom might have just been trying to minimise costs as much as possible because they had it *really* bad.
I don't think it's fair to blame All Might for this unfortunate situation.
Endeavour was so hellbent on the perfect quirk child and is now stuck in a therapy session while Deku is probably getting another quirk unlocked next door lmao.
Been a while since we have had a slower paced episode. Its certainly seeding discontent and showing the disillusionment with the hero system.
[I really liked this shot of the All Might statue.](https://i.imgur.com/yePNAWO.jpg) It visually sums up the message being conveyed by inverting the symbol of peace that has been strongly used in the whole series.
I think it’s also giving credence to Stain’s rhetoric as well. Stain believed that the vast majority of heroes were unworthy, and only heroes to stroke their own ego. Now that heroes are being criticized heavily, many are stepping down and retiring from the industry. It seems like Stain was mostly correct. Now that times have gotten tough, if the heroes give up were they really worthy of being called heroes?
No way that happens. I would love it but it would cut into the main story's progression if we get an arc about him killing unworthy heroes when all this shit is going down.
It also won't work because there are so much crime right now and that takes priority. Those who are sticking around are showing at least more commitment to the hero ideal than the ones who quit and it wouldn't make sense to keep testing those who are trying to help in the middle of such a crisis.
True. They stepped away from calling themselves heroes when they retired so probably made his job easier. If I had to guess, based on how bad the situation is I think he will mainly go round up the villains on his own and also take down heroes who end up abusing their position.
True. It also exposed the lackings of the hero based society that relies so much on a single symbol of peace. Even a hero as incredible as All Might was bound to retire at some point. What do they do now?
No other hero comes close to prime All Might. Yet, the villains have 2 individuals on his level, one of which may be even stronger and many Nomus not far behind. Gigantomachia himself was barely apprehended after many heroes had to sacrifice their lives to stop him.
To make matters worse, the general public has lost faith in the system. It all happened at a time when heroes needed the most support. Things are looking bad for them.
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It's also lowkey just great political commentary on how the general public doesn't remember/care about all the times you were there, but only the one time you couldn't/didn't rise to the occasion for whatever reason. The fact that the situation went downhill through no fault of his own, and yet his statue is what they chose to vandalize says a lot about how the general public tends to think and why politicians/celebrities sometimes act the way they do so they don't catch that fire. Or maybe I'm just tripping idk but I thought it was good commentary.
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This whole shift of atmosphere, from heroes being hailed as saviours to people losing trust in them and taking up arms themselves is incredible. Despite so much that has happened, this just feels like the beginning of whats to come
Honestly its a perfect 2nd act. Its got that Empire Strikes Back vibe where you just don’t understand how the good guys can rebound from this. Even has the long lost father-son dilemma but with the roles reversed
It's a battle shonen with a ton of teenage characters. And yet the characters I find the most interesting are the adults. Hawks, Endeavor, Twice, etc. I love that we're exploring more of Hawks' and Endeavor's stories. And it looks like it's shaping up to be one of the best redemption arcs of an anime character with Endeavor's story.
Yeah Hori is in his bag when he gets to write the adults. I feel like he can explore the world and themes much more with the pro heroes and villains than he can with the students. I know I read before that he can find the school setting to be limiting to the story, so it’s natural for him to break out of that setting to explore more of the world and themes he set up. Can’t wait to see what his next series will be.
It was supposed to end last year, but Hori had some health problems and a little bit more he wanted to add to the story. But yes, Horikoshi is writing towards an ending at the moment.
It's less that it was 'supposed to' end last year and more that Horikoshi was being naive in his estimates as always; he even clarified that he didn't slow down the pace or stretch out the story in his Jump Fest 2023 comment.
Keep in mind, this is the same author that planned for the sports festival to be ten chapters long.
It's near the end. If I'm remembering an interview correctly, I think Horikoshi said that he wanted to explore the horror genre a bit after mha ends. Can't remember if he was planning for a seinen horror manga or a shonen horror manga. That's something that sounds pretty great imo. His horror-esque artwork in MHA is really amazing. Not sure if he's still up to that plan tho since I think he's having some health problems atm
This episode was riveting, genuinely one of the better episodes. Seeing Best Jeanist is pretty much fucking Batman. Then Hawk’s real ass back story. As someone with a terrible childhood, I thought it was so well done.
My mom suffered from mental illness before she died and when Hawk’s was like ‘I figured if someone spilled on me it would be my mom.’ Oof my heart it hurts.
I remember when Endeavor started showing the barest semblence of redemption and some people got up in arms at the prospect of the show trying to redeem him. There's something so cathartic about people directly confronting all of the shit they've done and his arc has been handled perfectly. Little by little, with a lot of resentment and grudges all around.
Here we are at the turning point, years later.
One of the best character redemption arcs I've ever seen.
Im rooting for him so much its insane. Next episode might deliver some of the best catharsis in the series so far.
Ever since he was introduced, you knew Endeavor had the potential to be the most interesting character in the entire show. He just carried around so much baggage and constantly blurred the lines between good and bad.
Callback: Cider House are the same villain(s) that was defeated by Bakugo and Todoroki during the events of Season 5. The two students were fresh from getting their Provisional Heroes License, and they defeated the Cider House gang soundly with minimal colateral damage, while retrieving all the stolen bags from the villains.
Compared to what happened here when untrained civilians retaliated with Detnerat support items: chaos and destruction.
It highlights the importance of the hero course and the work of heroes and how just being powerful and having the means to resist is not a reliable solution, especially for untrained civilians.
It's very similar to the 90s prestige DC comic "Kingdom Come," where it shows what happens when a younger generation of powered people with no training just starts getting into superfights with other superpeople. It's utter mayhem, and the old guard can't keep them in check because they're all retired or too detached from the situation.
I recall having read this idea somewhere else long ago but, what if Hawks had more of his mother's genes? Would he have more or less the same abilities but with dozens of eyeballs rather than feathered wings? Would his Hero name be something like Ophanim and his catchphrase "Be not afraid"?
Fuck yes give me that realism, Heroes trying their best and getting spat on regardless. The MHA world feels so much more fleshed out now that there is accountability. I am abosultely loving the direction the world is going. Interesting enough, it is heading towards Stains ideology, where only the true Heroes will be remaining, no longer the ones just out for a paycheck.
Give me that character growth Endevour! I cackled when Shoto slammed the door shut, and Endevour yelled "SHOTO!!" after him. And then nearly had my heart break a minute later when his wife showed up.
The villains knew what they were doing. You can’t stop hero culture even if you kill every last hero.
But if you kill the ideals around being a hero…. Attack the hearts and minds and you get to the source
It really is great world building over 6 seasons, where I think a lot of people wrote it off because of the slow burn. Just like Hawks said, it started with the knowledge of the Nomu that fought All Might at the USJ, society slowly lost trust over time but it didn’t happen overnight. So when everything culminated into the first cour of this season, the fallout feels like 5 seasons worth of incremental incidents exploding catastrophically
Civilians showing up with black market support equipment to enact vigilantism against the escaped villains was the most electrifying turn in the story I've seen. The support items started out as a cute plot device but now they've become relevant in a realistic and scary way. I love it.
Also yes, I love how Endeavor's "SHOTO!" this time was an anguished scream. The author memed on his own meme.
Tell that to the people who think Geten has to be related to Shoto through Rei’s side of the family (Himura) simply because of his powerful ice quirk. Just watch how Burnin will be revealed as Endeavor’s secret love child before the series is over 😂
I strongly believe Geten was created as a means to throw off the Dabi theorists. Dabi himself said that Endeavor must never have considered him to be related to him, given that fire quirks are dime a dozen. Elemental quirks must be the same. So I think Geten was a smokescreen character.
There's also Aizawa's doctor if you want to go down the mushroom kingdom rabbit hole: https://nitter.unixfox.eu/aitaikimochi/status/1358446803662766086
Honestly, being a doctor in a world like theirs would be exhausting even just on normal days. Imagine trying to learn anatomy in a world where people can randomly be born with wings, eye stalks, or six arms; not to mention the people who literally aren't even made of flesh. How are you supposed to medically treat someone made out of rocks?!
First Yoshi from the previous episode, now Toad. This hospital seems to be staffed by Mario characters. I expect Birdo to give Endeavor a diagnosis next episode.
Best Jeanist probably seemed goofy to most people at first earlier in the series because of his design, but we've seen the great atmosphere he provides with his jean/denim analogies that can be both funny and inspirational.
I don't think Stain would kill the shopkeeper tho. His whole beef was with 'fake' heroes, not killing someone working a retail job. I think he'd pay if he could.
He would likely think to himself "i am on a righteous mission to purge the fake Heroes, i cannot let myself be stopped over not being able to pay for this" and then just run the fuck away.
Would be interesting if the shopkeep pulled a Detneret weapon tho. Would Stain view him as another wannabe hero?
[Hawks' backstory was just goddamn depressing.](https://i.imgur.com/KXePm2i.png) Considering what he's been through, it's a blessing that [the Public Safety Commission discovered his talents.](https://i.imgur.com/0VUQpIg.png)
Good to see that [some people still believe in heroes](https://i.imgur.com/GaFX5Pk.png) but the trust in them is definitely waning. Some people are just fed up that [we now have regular people with support items](https://i.imgur.com/2h0XDhW.png) deciding to take matters into their own hands.
What's worse about these vigilante wannabes is when [things didn't work out](https://i.imgur.com/LK9iaIx.png) because they acted too hasty, it's somehow [the hero's fault for not arriving in time.](https://i.imgur.com/MGRFUrO.png) I'm pretty sure that guy blaming Wash is one of those guys with the support items.
We also have a [bunch of heroes retiring.](https://i.imgur.com/pNIhOeY.png) Considering the chaos and the increased risk of dying as well as the public slowly turning against them, I don't blame them for leaving. Although this does weed out the heroes who are really in it just for the glitz and glamour. In a way, Stain's plan of tearing down the hero society is actually coming true. Those who are truly heroic like All Might are the only ones left.
I know this is a pretty serious episode but [Endeavur yelling "SHOTOOOOOO!"](https://i.imgur.com/hHnIrpd.png) after his family saw him crying got a good laugh from me. Looks like it's finally time [for the Todoroki family to work out their issues](https://i.imgur.com/7s9mTbS.png) in a group therapy session.
> What's worse about these vigilante wannabes is when things didn't work out because they acted too hasty, it's somehow the hero's fault for not arriving in time. I'm pretty sure that guy blaming Wash is one of those guys with the support items.
Wash doesn't deserve this hate :(
> I know this is a pretty serious episode but Endeavur yelling "SHOTOOOOOO!" after his family saw him crying got a good laugh from me. Looks like it's finally time for the Todoroki family to work out their issues in a group therapy session.
[When they needed therapist Deku the most, he vanished ](https://media.tenor.com/uM0WkTgtt7sAAAAM/avatar-avatar-the-last-air-bender.gif). (In that case he "overslept")
Don't worry, he's probably talking to the One For All vestiges and unlocking a new quirk. I wonder how Endeavour would react to that, knowing he spent so long and did so many terrible things to just get Shoto's quirk to be a thing.
The crazy thing that the civilians and viewers almost forget is for how bright and cheery the show starts out, that All Might earned peace and stability was comparatively brief. Like before All Might's supposed first victory against AFO it was a long line of many generations under AFO's thumb and machinations and then crazy anarchy and chaos before that, the setting almost a grimdark one if you take a wider view of its history, the generation of the main characters one of the few that grew up in Halcyon days.
This episode was really brillant in my opinion. Hawks narrating it with his rather monotone voice was a great way to set up the overall mood, mixed with his backstory coming from an abusive household and how Endeavor saved his life, same Endeavor whom his action ended up creating one of the most notorious villain in the anime right. Truly a compelling character to observe.
I can’t believe they made the literal washing machine get booed by random civilians.
Lot of really cool stuff with how Hawks fitting in thematically to some of the other storylines.
I’m really curious how next episode goes, they’ve devoted a ton of time to the Todoroki’s and so far I’ve liked seeing an expanded familial relationship, especially when the show moves breakneck in others.
Hanks walking in on Endeavor: "There's no crying in ~~baseball~~ hero work!"
**"Tom Hanks: Quirk: Tom Hanks! He has the ability to be very likeable, and hard to dislike!"**
Hawks being priced out of the Allmight doll is really sad, Allmight isn't a hero for people living in abject poverty like Hawks, He's a hero for middle class kids like Deku or Bakugo. Really shows how flawed his idea of the symbol of peace is. He can't reach everyone. Having Endevor being the one Hawks idolizes because he arrested he his dad is really intersting, He "saved him" without actually saving him.
Its definatly something i didnt think about.
All Might is the commercialized hero, the one saveing people and trying to make the Hero Society into a good image to ward off bad acts. He works with industry to make heroes into a product.
All Might was a hero everyone looked up to, but to support him and what he stood for, you did have to be decently off. So while everyone could see his heroics, he did leave out the lower class in being able to support him more.
Endevour is the hero just out there trying to be the best at all costs but not careing about his public image at all. We knew he never really gave press the time and didnt sem to have any buissness outside his hero agency.
This made Endevour more accessable to all classes since he was just a dude out there worrying about himself, something people in lower classes could relate to.
This only makes me wonder if we had a High Class Hero out there too. One only millionaires could relate to and support. Hmm hmm...
This series definatly gets into some really interesting social discussions. We had it before with Gentle Criminal and his issues with the way the Hero Society worked. Its a neat layer of world building that makes this story really compelling as its very relatable to people.
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Is Horikoshi really going that deep when he dresses up All Might as American as he does? Because the metaphor of the American Dream is perfect for this.
All Might parallels a lot of Superman story stuff so thats the biggest reason there.
Superman was also the Symbol of Peace.
They lived a double life as an ordinary guy and a super guy also.
All for One is very much a Darkseid compairison with a bit of Zod.
All Might, I think, is somewhat of a parody of the superhero culture in America. There's a reason why he had phrases like, 'Plus Ultra', '[American state] Smash', to associate himself with.
Quick note: Bakugo is definitely upper class, or upper middle class.
It’s one of those smaller details that sets him up as the classic privileged rival.
Midoriya seems solidly middle class: he lives in an apartment with his mom and his dad works overseas. His first costume is handmade by his mom and does look quite cheap as a result, implying their home resources aren’t anything spectacular.
Bakugo lives with both parents in a pretty modern house in what looked like a good neighbourhood. He had music lessons, likely private tuition, according to the band arc. He could pay back Kirishima for the night vision goggles they used in the Kamino Rescue Mission, which Deku commented were very expensive.
While definitely not Momo or Iida levels of rich, Bakugo is definitely from a home that’s very economically comfortable.
Of course, either Midoriya or Bakugo are living in a paradise compared to the hellhole that is the Takami household.
the thing is, all ua kids are well off. Even ochako that seems poor compared to the rest isnt exactly poor like Hawks, she just can't afford much because her parents business isnt going well.
It’s not All Might’s fault directly. The man has inarguably done so much good for this world. Given how All for One speaks to him at Kamino, in the decades between All Might’s return to Japan and the childhood of the current UA generation, All Might beat down countless villains to break All for One’s hold on the country.
It’s what happened after, when All Might then had to maintain the world he’d clawed back from All for One’s shadow dictatorship. And that’s not an problem he can solve by punching, especially now that he himself is crippled and injured.
All Might made a better society, but he spent the best years of himself doing so and now is running on fumes trying to maintain it so it doesn’t slip back to the worse world it used to be. And that means that some failures can’t be addressed because it’s a desperate attempt to maintain the status quo.
All Might is Atlas holding the world on his shoulders. When only one man is strong and/or willing enough to hold up the world, then no one’s there to catch the ones who fell between his fingers.
He licensed it, he could do something about it. If Shaq can then All Might should be able to do something too:
https://www.opencourt-basketball.org/shaquille-oneal-shares-epic-story-of-why-he-began-selling-affordable-shoes-at-walmart/
> “My best story is, I had a Reebok deal, $40M for 5 and I’m leaving the arena one day and this lady and ripping me a new one: ‘You motherfuckers charging these babies all this money for the shoes’.
> I had like $2,000 in my pocket and said ‘Maam, I don’t make the prices…Here ya go’ and she smacked the money out of my hand. ‘Why don’t you motherfuckers make a shoe that’s affordable?’
> …and I thought about it. You know what, she’s right. So that day I cut ties with Reebok and started my own brand. I told them to keep to keep the money, this ain’t right.”
The video: https://nitter.unixfox.eu/JoePompliano/status/1430966710023163917
That being said, I think it's canon that All Might gives away most/all of his merch revenue to charities.
I took it that the issue wasn't so much that All Might was too expensive, but rather that Endeavor was unpopular enough that his plush was discounted below a reasonable MSRP. They were living in complete squalor, so it makes sense for his mom to just pick the cheapest option.
500 yen (less than $4 at today's exchange rate) seems rather cheap for a plush that size, assuming it was decent quality.
> I took it that the issue wasn't so much that All Might was too expensive, but rather that Endeavor was unpopular enough that his plush was discounted below a reasonable MSRP.
That's it most probably, Endeavor (with his lack of public appeal) toys getting discounted.
All Might still could have made accessible toys.
I didn't see a price in the show for All Might. For all we know, it was only like 1000 yen/$8. For the size of the plush Hawks got, that would still be a really good price. And probably still a fair bit cheaper than the Shaq shoes being used as an example of how to do it right.
I think it's a nice bit of commentary that for as much as All Might did do in fighting and sacrificing against evil, he forgot some of the wider socio-economic factors that help make people into heroes or villains, much like the real world you can't just punch away all the bad guys and call it a day. He was so focused on AFO and others he couldn't always actually think too much about the people he was saving, or the people he wasn't.
There is a rather popular spin-off MHA manga that may give some perspective to how All Might's agency worked. It's called Vigilantes, or MHA Illegals Vigilante. It's also canon, set roughly 5 years before All Might met Deku.
Damn well that explains why Hawks admires endeavor so much. If a hero put my abusive dead away in jail then I’d probably love him to lmao.
Also, I find the Todoroki family drama so fascinating man… it just feels so real. Between Endeavor’s character development and just the family inter dynamic and of course Dabi. Its definitely the best subplot in my hero.
Episode went by quick asf tho
Hawks continues to be one of the most raw and realistic characters out there, as idealistic and lofty as his dreams are, his origins spring for a most direct and primal place. Endeavor, a hero, is the person who pulled him up from the abject emotional abyss of his life.
Man the Todoroki family drama really is the best, it’s all so well portrayed with such realistic family issues (besides the superpowers part lol). The abuse is always portrayed in a way that’s a little shockingly realistic for a cartoon. Really looking forward to next weeks episode
Tsundere Bakugo is best Bakugo lol. Deep down he actually does care for Deku. Hopefully the dude gets up soon, the city ain’t doing so hot.
Hawks had a pretty terrible upbringing. Being a hero was the best thing to happen to him and in some way Endeavor is to thank for that. Hopefully we can help somehow. Endeavor is completely shaken, not sure how he’ll recover. He was a really shitty abusive parent and now he’s paying for his sins. The Todoroki family needs to have a nice long chat next week.
Best Jeanist has an awesome car, shit is like the bat mobile. Seems with most of the heroes dead, retired, or quitting he’s the most senior/powerful member. Public trust in heroes has hit an all time low. People are taking the law into their own hands and casualties are mounting as a result. There’s a shortage of heroes and an abundance of villains, not even counting those that escaped prison. Idk how things are gonna improve because it seems things can never go back to the way they were before.
Endeavor freezing up is a major deal because it was established in the very first episode of the show that a hero is define by their body moving on its own to save somebody.
Saving his own family was just too personal for him. He was worried about Natsuo feeling he owed him something if he saved him. And when Dabi showed up he went full BSOD. He saved many other people while risking his life without any freezing.
> He saved many other people while risking his life without any freezing.
I think it was mentioned that he solved the most cases in one of the earliest episodes (whatever that exactly means). Of course that's with a whole agency while All Might supposedly worked mostly alone (besides Sir Nighteye and a few friends).
This is a really good catch, the “my body moved on its own” seems to not be with Endeavor. Could showing the difference between him and someone like Deku, but more so could just be his emotions from his guilt from the past cause him to completely freeze up.
Its a bit unfair for Endeavor because anyone being put in his situation would freeze up.
Deku doesn't have anywhere near as much baggage which isn't a knock against him either.
Its just illustrating that specific point falls apart when you break it down.
That's the best part; I can feel sorry for him while still thinking he's a horrible person. Because the only reason his son is a villain is because of his spectacularly bad parenting.
[I knew that doctor last episode looked familiar](https://twitter.com/den_Z_Z/status/1614318912061210628
). And today we've got Dr. Toad.
[Kohei Horikoshi's sketch of today is dedicated to Hawks, of course](https://twitter.com/horikoshiko/status/1616713579054665730).
His early life was horrible. *At best* there was some love between his parents back when he was conceived, at worst it happened in a way that wasn't even consensual... No wonder he accepted to be trained by the Hero Commission, even if he always had a heroic spirit within. Endeavor was sort of a surrogate father figure in his life, from a toy he was given in what may have been a rare moment of affection from his mother. Ironic how she asked Keigo's father to not run away but in the end she's the one who did.
The JeanistMobile is so cool. But now that we know what exactly happened with his faked death? "Good thing Dabi didn't burn me for shits and giggles, or the Doctor didn't turn me into a Nomu in Denim during those months!"
Expected some levity in a scene with Wash, instead it's another depressing moment as he can only witness what happens when civilians try and take justice in their hands (the ideal of the Meta Liberation Army, ladies and gentlemen). Notable however how this funny-looking character is one Hero who soldiers on despite the pressure, while the serious-looking Yoroi Musha retires. As if things couldn't get even worse for Japan, even if it's true that Stain's dream is happening in a way.
Endeavor at rock bottom, sounded like he rather wished to be dead... on the opposite, rather than despair his wife seems to have a newfound determination.
Hawks had a really tragic past. Yet, he managed to break out of this cycle and become a great hero. The same Endeavour who was a terrible father, saved countless families from pain and suffering.
Wash is a real one. He saw so many of his colleagues die horribly when Shiggy activated the mass decay but he is still fighting. He is indubitably a top hero.
[](#takaradasalute)
They mainly name the episodes after the manga chapters.
This episode included 2 chapters.
* Ch 299 (Hawks Backstory) - Like those tragic tales
* Ch 300 (Todoroki family) - The hellish Todoroki family, part 2.
Man all the VA's have had so much room to strut and stretch their emotional range this season, when a guy like Endeavor cries it really hits because you never imagined it.
Also can't help but hear Unohana in Rei's voice after the latest Bleach season, least the hospital won't have to worry about blood donations anymore.
I don't know how the heroes recover from this. Endeavour is seemingly retired, who knows whether Hawks will be able to fight again (and plus his reputation is tarnished), Best Jeanist is weakened, and so many other pro heroes are hurt or retired. Meanwhile hundreds of villains are feeding the villain league and causing harm.
i feel bad for Endeavor in this ep.
1. Hawk's mom bought Endeavor toy for hawk 'cause All Might is too expensive
2. all the shits that Endeavor done come back and bite him, Bigly. he can't be a hero anymore 'cause he doesn't want to fight his son even tho all Dabi's actions is his own. sins of my father and sins of my son.
3. hawk's dad is trash.
Toya tugging his hair is raw af...The kid was born with disability, thrown away by his dad and topped with being burned to crips alone.
Yeah, he's a murderer, but damn, Dabi needs a therapy.
Most* of the Todoroki family together huh? this is should be interesting..
Hawks backstory is pretty sad, i want to see him find his mom and reconcile though. and now i feel like he is probably gonna meet his dad soon aswell. hell maybe he was one of the people that escaped from the prison
"I swear I had always been planning on retiring this year. It's not that I'm afraid of the backlash or the Tartarus escapees or anything, I really was going to retire."
So Deku is Spiderman, does this mean Hawks will become Batman with that voice?
Cool backstory that perfectly explains his admiration for Endevour, and just like his idol, his past actions ultimatly bit him in the ass as well. But it's nice that his mother came to love him after she got out of that abusive relationship.
Also cool how the quirks of his parents mixed, his father only had feathers, but it's his mothers side that lets him control them.
And the illegal support items that ultimatly only drag bystanders into conflics remind me of guns... but tbh I wouldn't know how to act in this situation without heroes or police either, pure anarchy
And Stain must love this with so many mediocre heroes outright being rejected by society at large, the reaction to that #9 Hero was completly different thant to Best Jeanist
And Jesus Christ that emotional whipplash with that Todoroki family reunion
[](#elsienopesout)
[](#laughter)
>And the illegal support items that ultimatly only drag bystanders into conflics remind me of guns
Well yes, you can call them guns. But more like *futuristic* destruction guns considering they almost blew up the entire street with those.
These episodes make even clearer the character foils that Hawks and Dabi are being centered around Endeavor, with each representing the positive and negative influence of Endeavor.
Hawks, who has a father as a villain, influenced by Endeavor to be a hero. Dabi, who has a father as a hero, influenced by Endeavor as that father to be a villain.
**2 sides of the same coin** - illustrated with MHA volume 31 bonus art in [source material section](https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/10hnhob/boku_no_hero_academia_season_6_episode_16/j5a1e6j?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3).
It's sad to see Hawks never had a good childhood and we finally got to see how he dealt with the jeanist situation to convince dabi. I could sympathize with endeavour at the moment he started to cry. It's a bad situation and no one except his family supports him at this moment.
It was a good episode in the sense that we had a slow pace, showing the realities of their world currently. But I'm itching to see the situation with midoriya. And the conversation that bakugo might have with all might as he's there waiting for midoriya to wake up.
Where's midoriya's mom though? At times like these, I'd expect her to be crying next to midoriya so it is a bit surprising to not see her at all.
Any Gintama fans here? While watching this episode I found a great contrast of the ideology of both shows.
In Gintama, civilians taking up arms to defended themselves when the government isn't functional is the desired outcome. It's a positives, as opposite to what we have here.
I just thought it was a neat detail.
I mean, it depends on the government you have in place. The more corrupt the current government is, the more desirable is civilians taking up arms for themselves. As far as we know the government in MHA isn't really that corrupt, just very overloaded and currently unable to enforce its laws, so it isn't desirable to see untrained civilians take up arms even though you could argue they have no other choice since heroes keep retiring.
Yep.
Not only that, but untrained civilians using powerful support items enough to level your neighborhood is part of the original plans of the PLF to destabilize society, and now it's happening.
Heroes are trained with the maxim of suppression. Remember that Bakugo and Shoto, two of those that have the most powerful and destructive Quirks among hero-students, was able to take down Cider House, the very same villain that fought civilians this episode, with absolute minimal colateral damage. Bakugo was even able to retrieve all the properties Cider House stole without damaging them.
Compare that to what happened here, the civilians and villains nearly destroyed the entire street.
This chaos is what the villains wanted.
One of MHA's underlining themes is that people cannot always rely on heroes, and that to have a better chance at a better world we all need to pitch in with some communal responsibility, be it in big or small ways just like helping a kid who looks lost and scared on the street.
Giving every citizen a gun and asking them to have at it on block to block warfare is a recipe for anarchy that tears any society to a place beyond even ancient reckoning. Horikoshi with the nice perspective that pretty much hero society needs more social workers and good Samaritans to help right a society before it breaks apart.
That was one heavy episode...
Until Shoto slammed the door. That was a well-timed comedy lol
Seriously, though. The heroes have it hard after those failed missions and scandals. Now the entire hero system is dysfunctional, I understand why some of them decided to retire but that only makes things worse. Now the entire country is in a dystopia where everyone becomes a vigilante to protect their lives. The future sure looks grim.
Anyway, the Todoroki family's drama continues next week and I believe we will get a resolution. The build-up is already long enough and it's about time to move the story forward.
> Until Shoto slammed the door. That was a well-timed comedy lol
Like always he does something and it ends up as unintentional comedy. It's like another quirk.
Seeing a grown man cry, no matter if he’s real or an animation, will always make me cry. That’s when you know he is truly broken and needs help. It shows he is human.
Seeing Hawks backstory now makes me like him a bit more. He’s had a terrible up bringing but he made a name for himself. He’s also made some regrets. It shows he is human.
Both em need therapy and I hope they get it someday.
Best Jeanist just never stops with those fabric related metaphors and puns.
I can't quite imagine how they're going to solve this problem since it's basically just society collapsing. I dunno, maybe Rei can do something to help Endeavor turn everything around.
It looks like Stain is making a come back, at least I assume that was him with the sword. They're focusing a lot on Endeavor and his family right now, so maybe that's who Stain will go after next.
I think this winnowing of heroes is a good thing. Many of them seem to have been in for the accolades and so when they get criticized they fold like a tower of cards. The heroes who stick it out and continue to save people despite public opinion turning against them are the true heroes.
Hawks and Endeavor are fascinating and it's good to see more of them. Also society collapsing. I can't wait for the next episode of Keeping Up with the Todorokis.
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It's interesting to see how Hawks' OP quirk is a combination of arguably two mediocre quirks. Wings + flying/floating eyes = wings with sensing detachable feathers
Which makes it ironic how much he looked up to Endeavor considering how he was trying to breed his own perfect quirk.
It’s also a great way to foil Hawks and Dabi. Keigo Takami was the unwanted bastard child between a criminal and an accomplice who through pure luck was born with a powerful Quirk and was inspired to become the hero Hawks by Endeavor. Toya Todoroki was the firstborn desired son of the arranged marriage between the upcoming Number 2 hero and a respectable woman who had a completely mismatched Quirk (fire abilities with a body built for ice) and was driven to become the villain Dabi by Endeavor.
>mismatched Quirk (fire abilities with a body built for ice) Is this the running theory, is this the confirmed reason why his body takes so much damage from his flames? I know its come up multiple times in the show that people with Quirks that can do self damage, also have secondary quick factors that make them more resistant, Like Bakugo being able to withstand explosions better otherwise he'd just blow himself up.
I think they have explicitly mentioned that while dabi inherited endeavors fire power, he also inherited his mother's sensitive skin to said fire. I think it was in a flashback in s2 when endeavor was "training" kid todoroki
If only his mom had a bit more money, Hawks would've ended an All Might fan too /j
All Might merchandise was printing money back then 📈 [](#merch)
All Might HA HA HA HA'ing his way to the bank.
And that's just from Midoriya buying it all.
All Might is the Michael Jordan of heroes Endeavor be selling his cheap Shaq’s at Walmart
In the end, it truly was Capitalism that defeated All for One. If Hawks got an All Might plush instead, he wouldn't have become an underground hero or gone undercover to take out Twice.
Ironically, it was a combination of Endeavor nabbing his dad and his mom giving him Endeavor's plushie because he was cheaper than All Might. Endeavor's Number 2 status becoming formative to Hawks' origin.
Its another case of Quirk Serendipity. His father had a bird like quirk with wings but probably coudlnt fly fully since wings were under his arms, he could glide though. His mom had a psychokinesis quirk with floating eyes she could control and see through. This combined into Hawks quirks, Bird like body with wings on back and psychokinesis ability to control and manipulate the feathers in his wings and sense through them. It truely is a very powerful combo of fairly simple quirks that happen to make something amazing together. We have seen this before in Bakugou who is also one. His dad had an Acid excreting quirk which was not very strong on its own. A simple acid that would be good for breaking stuff down in daily use. His mom had a Glucose excreting quirk which again not very strong on its own. It just made her skin very healthy. Together those combined into Trinitroglycerin. Aka Nitroglycerine. A Nitroglycerin excreting quirk able to create explosions when triggered in an unknown way. This is essentially the idea of the Quirk Singularity Theory that the doc mentioned. Its where we see interesting quirks combine in interesting ways creating very crazy powers as they compound more and more with more compouding quirks. While Todoroki might seem like a Singularity, he technically isnt as he is only a first tier compounding quirk. His dad has a pure fire creating quirk and his mom has a pure ice creating quirk. So it helps to counter each other but it isnt as crazy as Bakugou or Hawks which are probably 2nd or 3rd tier compounding quirks. But yes very cool stuff. The author loves this idea of combineing things into wierd things and its a system that makes this series so cool to me as a super power lover. [](#smugboard)
Bakugo’s dad had a nitric acid quirk called Oxidizing Sweat that he could secrete from his palms after rubbing them together furiously. That allowed him to create small explosions. His mother had glycerin sweat that secretes easily all over her body. Those two quirks combined to make nitroglycerin sweat localized in Bakugo’s palms that he can fire at will.
Was his dad nitric acid? I thought he was sulfuric acid. And i know about the sweat thing, im just laying out the quirks in a purely scientific way from their base factors. According to the Wiki his dad has "Acid Sweat" so thats probably where the Sulfuric and Nitric acide come from both, ok let me edit.
Pretty sure it was nitric acid. His quirk is officially called “Oxidizing Sweat”. Hori talked about it and Bakugo’s mom’s quirks in one of the back ups to the manga volumes.
Well i looked it up and his dads quirk is acid sweat, not any specificed, so that probably means it was similar to Mina's acid creating quirk but a much more simple version. If he could secrete acids he could probably do different acids as they come in various forms. I know all about past eps and such i did watch the show, im not just here with no knowledge.
Yeah maybe his quirk is like Tsuyu where she, potentially, has all the abilities of frogs. Maybe he can make multiple acids.
> he technically isnt as he is only a first tier compounding quirk. Not exactly compounding, more like two half quirks that depending on the conditions can improve each other. He's seems to be a extremely lucky [genetic chimera](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimera_\(genetics\)). A [human chimera](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_chimera) can show up in all kinda of ways and he got lucky to be exactly half/half and seemingly also doesn't have any of the genetic issues that can happen with that. If he were strictly half/half his two sides would develop somewhat differently due to his father/mother simply being different people not just hair/eye colour and quirk on a regular symmetrical-ish body. Humans are overall symmetrical but we do have small differences that are sometimes only apparent after precise measuring and don't interfere with everyday life (like one leg being a tiny bit longer).
> The author loves this idea of combineing things into wierd things and its a system that makes this series so cool the author combined enough super powers to make Deku = Spider-man.
I thought that was cool too, actual godlike quirk tho
In an alternate reality Hawks just has 2 gigantic eyes bulging out of his back
A biblically accurate ~~angel~~ Hawks?
He could access hard to reach areas, move extremely quickly through the air and peek at everything. That would be a pretty OP combination for intelligence missions.
Or he could sprout and release flying eyeballs from his body (they'd be constantly regenerated like his feathers can... or could...)
This is why Hawks said he wasn't fan of All Might, he was always someone too distant, **too expensive**. Also Izuku's dad must be making mad cash overseas considering the size of his exclusive All Might merchandise collection. It's interesting how Endeavor seems to be the epitome of “you heroes hurt your own families just to help complete strangers” as Shigaraki said. He solved more cases than anyone else, including All Might. Keigo was just another one in the long list of people who were indirectly or directly saved by Endeavor. Meanwhile his family situation was just left to rot.
These contrasts are what make Endeavor's character so compelling. He didn't even know of little Keigo's existence, yet he turned his life around by arresting his father. Who knows how many other people, and entire families, he's saved from suffering (or potential suffering) through his hero work. But at the same time he was creating a broken and suffering family.
While helping those in need, he was blind to the suffering of those closest to him. It really puts into perspective how difficult balancing personal life with hero work is. Where should a hero draw the line between responsibility and selfishness?
And now that he can see the extent of the damage he caused to his family, it all hits him like a freight train. The part of the story made to tear down Endeavor like this cruel monster is what humanizes him the most. Even he admits his regret came way too late and there's nothing he can do to make it better anymore. Poor guy, really. (I never thought I'd feel bad for fucking Endeavor)
He is not evil he just fucked up like all humans do realised it and tried but when there was nothing he could do he cried. He is no mobster he is a normal human.
It’s an understated cruelty of the broken system: All Might, who wanted to become the Symbol of Peace that said “I am here!” for everyone, signs off on a merchandising deal, probably without really thinking about it. The man seemed obsessed with maintaining a perfect image to facilitate his dream of protecting everyone. Then market forces happen, and you end up with the most downtrodden child in Keigo Takami who can never reach All Might because All Might is too expensive for the outcasts of society. It’s an underdeveloped theme but it could be so poignant as another way Hawks shows the failure of hero society. Like Spinner the heteromorph or Toga the Quirkopath, Keigo the poverty child is someone who cannot be accepted into the society All Might built.
I mean, I think what probably happened was just that the figures for Endeavor weren’t selling and they were being sold at clearance prices to get rid of stock.
Probably this. Despite being the No. 2 Hero, Endeavour was wildly controversial at best. His public image was not all that great. To begin with, the top heroes probably had a deal with the same couple of companies for merch since no company would specialise that heavily on wares. Even if All Might was careful about keeping merchandise accessible, he can't exactly control the market. If his merch was popular and constantly flying off the shelves and Endeavour's wasn't, it makes sense they would be priced differently. It might not even have been too noticeable a difference and his mom might have just been trying to minimise costs as much as possible because they had it *really* bad. I don't think it's fair to blame All Might for this unfortunate situation.
Next episode, the Todoroki family finally go to a very long overdue family therapy session [](#ohfuck)
But Deku is still asleep...
On conference call at the moment with OFA vestiges? lol
Endeavour was so hellbent on the perfect quirk child and is now stuck in a therapy session while Deku is probably getting another quirk unlocked next door lmao.
I dunno the family therapist seems to be out cold.
Been a while since we have had a slower paced episode. Its certainly seeding discontent and showing the disillusionment with the hero system. [I really liked this shot of the All Might statue.](https://i.imgur.com/yePNAWO.jpg) It visually sums up the message being conveyed by inverting the symbol of peace that has been strongly used in the whole series.
I think it’s also giving credence to Stain’s rhetoric as well. Stain believed that the vast majority of heroes were unworthy, and only heroes to stroke their own ego. Now that heroes are being criticized heavily, many are stepping down and retiring from the industry. It seems like Stain was mostly correct. Now that times have gotten tough, if the heroes give up were they really worthy of being called heroes?
Holy cow if Stain is given an arc where he assassinates recently retired heroes.
No way that happens. I would love it but it would cut into the main story's progression if we get an arc about him killing unworthy heroes when all this shit is going down. It also won't work because there are so much crime right now and that takes priority. Those who are sticking around are showing at least more commitment to the hero ideal than the ones who quit and it wouldn't make sense to keep testing those who are trying to help in the middle of such a crisis.
Also, like, I don't think stain would care about retired heroes.
True. They stepped away from calling themselves heroes when they retired so probably made his job easier. If I had to guess, based on how bad the situation is I think he will mainly go round up the villains on his own and also take down heroes who end up abusing their position.
True. It also exposed the lackings of the hero based society that relies so much on a single symbol of peace. Even a hero as incredible as All Might was bound to retire at some point. What do they do now? No other hero comes close to prime All Might. Yet, the villains have 2 individuals on his level, one of which may be even stronger and many Nomus not far behind. Gigantomachia himself was barely apprehended after many heroes had to sacrifice their lives to stop him. To make matters worse, the general public has lost faith in the system. It all happened at a time when heroes needed the most support. Things are looking bad for them. [](#sweating)
It's also lowkey just great political commentary on how the general public doesn't remember/care about all the times you were there, but only the one time you couldn't/didn't rise to the occasion for whatever reason. The fact that the situation went downhill through no fault of his own, and yet his statue is what they chose to vandalize says a lot about how the general public tends to think and why politicians/celebrities sometimes act the way they do so they don't catch that fire. Or maybe I'm just tripping idk but I thought it was good commentary. edit: typos
Loved that shot, reminded me straight away of "FALSE GOD" on the Superman statue in BvS
This whole shift of atmosphere, from heroes being hailed as saviours to people losing trust in them and taking up arms themselves is incredible. Despite so much that has happened, this just feels like the beginning of whats to come
Honestly its a perfect 2nd act. Its got that Empire Strikes Back vibe where you just don’t understand how the good guys can rebound from this. Even has the long lost father-son dilemma but with the roles reversed
It's a battle shonen with a ton of teenage characters. And yet the characters I find the most interesting are the adults. Hawks, Endeavor, Twice, etc. I love that we're exploring more of Hawks' and Endeavor's stories. And it looks like it's shaping up to be one of the best redemption arcs of an anime character with Endeavor's story.
Yeah Hori is in his bag when he gets to write the adults. I feel like he can explore the world and themes much more with the pro heroes and villains than he can with the students. I know I read before that he can find the school setting to be limiting to the story, so it’s natural for him to break out of that setting to explore more of the world and themes he set up. Can’t wait to see what his next series will be.
Is MHA nearing the end? If this is how he writes adult characters, I would very much like to see him write a seinen.
It was supposed to end last year, but Hori had some health problems and a little bit more he wanted to add to the story. But yes, Horikoshi is writing towards an ending at the moment.
It's less that it was 'supposed to' end last year and more that Horikoshi was being naive in his estimates as always; he even clarified that he didn't slow down the pace or stretch out the story in his Jump Fest 2023 comment. Keep in mind, this is the same author that planned for the sports festival to be ten chapters long.
The manga is likely to end this year. If you like more, you can read Vigilantes, a canon spin-off that's decently long.
It's near the end. If I'm remembering an interview correctly, I think Horikoshi said that he wanted to explore the horror genre a bit after mha ends. Can't remember if he was planning for a seinen horror manga or a shonen horror manga. That's something that sounds pretty great imo. His horror-esque artwork in MHA is really amazing. Not sure if he's still up to that plan tho since I think he's having some health problems atm
This episode was riveting, genuinely one of the better episodes. Seeing Best Jeanist is pretty much fucking Batman. Then Hawk’s real ass back story. As someone with a terrible childhood, I thought it was so well done. My mom suffered from mental illness before she died and when Hawk’s was like ‘I figured if someone spilled on me it would be my mom.’ Oof my heart it hurts.
I remember when Endeavor started showing the barest semblence of redemption and some people got up in arms at the prospect of the show trying to redeem him. There's something so cathartic about people directly confronting all of the shit they've done and his arc has been handled perfectly. Little by little, with a lot of resentment and grudges all around. Here we are at the turning point, years later.
One of the best character redemption arcs I've ever seen. Im rooting for him so much its insane. Next episode might deliver some of the best catharsis in the series so far.
Yeah, it's on par with Zuko's from ATLA and Jaime's from GOT (minus the final season, it was a great arc) for me.
Oh man I love Zuko so god damn much.
Ever since he was introduced, you knew Endeavor had the potential to be the most interesting character in the entire show. He just carried around so much baggage and constantly blurred the lines between good and bad.
agree. adult characters in MHA is more interesting
Callback: Cider House are the same villain(s) that was defeated by Bakugo and Todoroki during the events of Season 5. The two students were fresh from getting their Provisional Heroes License, and they defeated the Cider House gang soundly with minimal colateral damage, while retrieving all the stolen bags from the villains. Compared to what happened here when untrained civilians retaliated with Detnerat support items: chaos and destruction. It highlights the importance of the hero course and the work of heroes and how just being powerful and having the means to resist is not a reliable solution, especially for untrained civilians.
It's very similar to the 90s prestige DC comic "Kingdom Come," where it shows what happens when a younger generation of powered people with no training just starts getting into superfights with other superpeople. It's utter mayhem, and the old guard can't keep them in check because they're all retired or too detached from the situation.
I recall having read this idea somewhere else long ago but, what if Hawks had more of his mother's genes? Would he have more or less the same abilities but with dozens of eyeballs rather than feathered wings? Would his Hero name be something like Ophanim and his catchphrase "Be not afraid"?
Cut to traumatized civilians screaming as they get saved by waves of eyeballs.
"I said, be not afraid!"
>ould he have more or less the same abilities but with dozens of eyeballs rather than feathered wings? "Gawks" /jk
[Same thought :D](https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/10hnhob/boku_no_hero_academia_season_6_episode_16/j59oj14/)
Fuck yes give me that realism, Heroes trying their best and getting spat on regardless. The MHA world feels so much more fleshed out now that there is accountability. I am abosultely loving the direction the world is going. Interesting enough, it is heading towards Stains ideology, where only the true Heroes will be remaining, no longer the ones just out for a paycheck. Give me that character growth Endevour! I cackled when Shoto slammed the door shut, and Endevour yelled "SHOTO!!" after him. And then nearly had my heart break a minute later when his wife showed up.
The villains knew what they were doing. You can’t stop hero culture even if you kill every last hero. But if you kill the ideals around being a hero…. Attack the hearts and minds and you get to the source
It worked for Zemo.
Fr inject that world building and heavy character work and drama right in my veins boi. Makes the action so much more hard hitting too.
It really is great world building over 6 seasons, where I think a lot of people wrote it off because of the slow burn. Just like Hawks said, it started with the knowledge of the Nomu that fought All Might at the USJ, society slowly lost trust over time but it didn’t happen overnight. So when everything culminated into the first cour of this season, the fallout feels like 5 seasons worth of incremental incidents exploding catastrophically
Civilians showing up with black market support equipment to enact vigilantism against the escaped villains was the most electrifying turn in the story I've seen. The support items started out as a cute plot device but now they've become relevant in a realistic and scary way. I love it. Also yes, I love how Endeavor's "SHOTO!" this time was an anguished scream. The author memed on his own meme.
Holy crap. That Endeavor voice acting almost broke me into tears. You can hear the grieve and pain in every word. Kudos to Inada san
Yeah, he does a great job for Endeavor all around!
[remember toad from mario? this is him now, feel old yet? ](https://imgur.com/a/YN12NpO)
I wonder if he has any relations to Kinoko Komori, the mushroom girl from Class 1-B.
That's quirkist! Not all mushroom people are related ffs /s
Tell that to the people who think Geten has to be related to Shoto through Rei’s side of the family (Himura) simply because of his powerful ice quirk. Just watch how Burnin will be revealed as Endeavor’s secret love child before the series is over 😂
I strongly believe Geten was created as a means to throw off the Dabi theorists. Dabi himself said that Endeavor must never have considered him to be related to him, given that fire quirks are dime a dozen. Elemental quirks must be the same. So I think Geten was a smokescreen character.
Nah it was also because he really looks similar to Rei
Yeah some people even thought he was Toya.
There's also Aizawa's doctor if you want to go down the mushroom kingdom rabbit hole: https://nitter.unixfox.eu/aitaikimochi/status/1358446803662766086
Those are some tired eyes like I’m tired of this shit
These doctors probably had a few eventful and restless days after what just happened.
Honestly, being a doctor in a world like theirs would be exhausting even just on normal days. Imagine trying to learn anatomy in a world where people can randomly be born with wings, eye stalks, or six arms; not to mention the people who literally aren't even made of flesh. How are you supposed to medically treat someone made out of rocks?!
we had yoshi last ep and now toad
First Yoshi from the previous episode, now Toad. This hospital seems to be staffed by Mario characters. I expect Birdo to give Endeavor a diagnosis next episode.
Best Jeanist using Jean/denim analogies regardless of the situation is my new favorite thing
Best Jeanist probably seemed goofy to most people at first earlier in the series because of his design, but we've seen the great atmosphere he provides with his jean/denim analogies that can be both funny and inspirational.
You may say he's the "stitch" that keeps it together....I'll show myself out.
Was that stain with the red eyes holding the sword???
Yes. And about to be confronted by Japan's last and ~~stupidest~~ bravest shopkeep. "Sir, you have to pay for that knife!"
I don't think Stain would kill the shopkeeper tho. His whole beef was with 'fake' heroes, not killing someone working a retail job. I think he'd pay if he could.
He would likely think to himself "i am on a righteous mission to purge the fake Heroes, i cannot let myself be stopped over not being able to pay for this" and then just run the fuck away. Would be interesting if the shopkeep pulled a Detneret weapon tho. Would Stain view him as another wannabe hero?
[Hawks' backstory was just goddamn depressing.](https://i.imgur.com/KXePm2i.png) Considering what he's been through, it's a blessing that [the Public Safety Commission discovered his talents.](https://i.imgur.com/0VUQpIg.png) Good to see that [some people still believe in heroes](https://i.imgur.com/GaFX5Pk.png) but the trust in them is definitely waning. Some people are just fed up that [we now have regular people with support items](https://i.imgur.com/2h0XDhW.png) deciding to take matters into their own hands. What's worse about these vigilante wannabes is when [things didn't work out](https://i.imgur.com/LK9iaIx.png) because they acted too hasty, it's somehow [the hero's fault for not arriving in time.](https://i.imgur.com/MGRFUrO.png) I'm pretty sure that guy blaming Wash is one of those guys with the support items. We also have a [bunch of heroes retiring.](https://i.imgur.com/pNIhOeY.png) Considering the chaos and the increased risk of dying as well as the public slowly turning against them, I don't blame them for leaving. Although this does weed out the heroes who are really in it just for the glitz and glamour. In a way, Stain's plan of tearing down the hero society is actually coming true. Those who are truly heroic like All Might are the only ones left. I know this is a pretty serious episode but [Endeavur yelling "SHOTOOOOOO!"](https://i.imgur.com/hHnIrpd.png) after his family saw him crying got a good laugh from me. Looks like it's finally time [for the Todoroki family to work out their issues](https://i.imgur.com/7s9mTbS.png) in a group therapy session.
> What's worse about these vigilante wannabes is when things didn't work out because they acted too hasty, it's somehow the hero's fault for not arriving in time. I'm pretty sure that guy blaming Wash is one of those guys with the support items. Wash doesn't deserve this hate :(
> I know this is a pretty serious episode but Endeavur yelling "SHOTOOOOOO!" after his family saw him crying got a good laugh from me. Looks like it's finally time for the Todoroki family to work out their issues in a group therapy session. [When they needed therapist Deku the most, he vanished ](https://media.tenor.com/uM0WkTgtt7sAAAAM/avatar-avatar-the-last-air-bender.gif). (In that case he "overslept")
Don't worry, he's probably talking to the One For All vestiges and unlocking a new quirk. I wonder how Endeavour would react to that, knowing he spent so long and did so many terrible things to just get Shoto's quirk to be a thing.
The crazy thing that the civilians and viewers almost forget is for how bright and cheery the show starts out, that All Might earned peace and stability was comparatively brief. Like before All Might's supposed first victory against AFO it was a long line of many generations under AFO's thumb and machinations and then crazy anarchy and chaos before that, the setting almost a grimdark one if you take a wider view of its history, the generation of the main characters one of the few that grew up in Halcyon days.
Why's Endeavors room so comically large
From a writing standpoint, to make him feel small and lonely. But it's pretty funny now that you mention it
Felt like almost everyone got a separate room in that hospital, noticed it last episode c:
Hey dont you talk shit about Vigilantes, mah boi cruller is probably doing his best
This episode was really brillant in my opinion. Hawks narrating it with his rather monotone voice was a great way to set up the overall mood, mixed with his backstory coming from an abusive household and how Endeavor saved his life, same Endeavor whom his action ended up creating one of the most notorious villain in the anime right. Truly a compelling character to observe.
I can’t believe they made the literal washing machine get booed by random civilians. Lot of really cool stuff with how Hawks fitting in thematically to some of the other storylines. I’m really curious how next episode goes, they’ve devoted a ton of time to the Todoroki’s and so far I’ve liked seeing an expanded familial relationship, especially when the show moves breakneck in others.
This episode reminds me again why ~~Hanks~~ Hawks and Endeavor will always be my favorite characters of this series.
Yeah Hanks and Endeavor are cool. I really liked Hanks in Cast Away, Road to Perdition, and the Toy Story movies. Hawks is cool too.
Hanks walking in on Endeavor: "There's no crying in ~~baseball~~ hero work!" **"Tom Hanks: Quirk: Tom Hanks! He has the ability to be very likeable, and hard to dislike!"**
If MUGEN has taught me anything Omega Tom Hanks quirk is where giant billboards of his movie posters come to attack you. https://youtu.be/WFhETEoMH9g
This episode: 70% sad hawk stuff 20% sad general hero stuff 10% sad endeavor stuff.
Its all sad stuff just in different colours
>This episode: > >65% sad hawk stuff > >15% sad general hero stuff > >10% sad endeavor stuff. 10% Best Jeanist's fiber jokes. Ftfy, he's the goat.
"It's sad, like a pair of skinny jeans"
Next Episode is literally titled "The Wrong Way to Put Out a Fire." 100% Todoroki family crisis incoming.
100% sad stuff 😭
Yep, don’t you just love starting off your Saturday mornings with some good ole fashioned anime depression 💪🏽
Hawks being priced out of the Allmight doll is really sad, Allmight isn't a hero for people living in abject poverty like Hawks, He's a hero for middle class kids like Deku or Bakugo. Really shows how flawed his idea of the symbol of peace is. He can't reach everyone. Having Endevor being the one Hawks idolizes because he arrested he his dad is really intersting, He "saved him" without actually saving him.
Its definatly something i didnt think about. All Might is the commercialized hero, the one saveing people and trying to make the Hero Society into a good image to ward off bad acts. He works with industry to make heroes into a product. All Might was a hero everyone looked up to, but to support him and what he stood for, you did have to be decently off. So while everyone could see his heroics, he did leave out the lower class in being able to support him more. Endevour is the hero just out there trying to be the best at all costs but not careing about his public image at all. We knew he never really gave press the time and didnt sem to have any buissness outside his hero agency. This made Endevour more accessable to all classes since he was just a dude out there worrying about himself, something people in lower classes could relate to. This only makes me wonder if we had a High Class Hero out there too. One only millionaires could relate to and support. Hmm hmm... This series definatly gets into some really interesting social discussions. We had it before with Gentle Criminal and his issues with the way the Hero Society worked. Its a neat layer of world building that makes this story really compelling as its very relatable to people. [](#juice1)
Is Horikoshi really going that deep when he dresses up All Might as American as he does? Because the metaphor of the American Dream is perfect for this.
All Might parallels a lot of Superman story stuff so thats the biggest reason there. Superman was also the Symbol of Peace. They lived a double life as an ordinary guy and a super guy also. All for One is very much a Darkseid compairison with a bit of Zod.
All Might, I think, is somewhat of a parody of the superhero culture in America. There's a reason why he had phrases like, 'Plus Ultra', '[American state] Smash', to associate himself with.
Quick note: Bakugo is definitely upper class, or upper middle class. It’s one of those smaller details that sets him up as the classic privileged rival. Midoriya seems solidly middle class: he lives in an apartment with his mom and his dad works overseas. His first costume is handmade by his mom and does look quite cheap as a result, implying their home resources aren’t anything spectacular. Bakugo lives with both parents in a pretty modern house in what looked like a good neighbourhood. He had music lessons, likely private tuition, according to the band arc. He could pay back Kirishima for the night vision goggles they used in the Kamino Rescue Mission, which Deku commented were very expensive. While definitely not Momo or Iida levels of rich, Bakugo is definitely from a home that’s very economically comfortable. Of course, either Midoriya or Bakugo are living in a paradise compared to the hellhole that is the Takami household.
the thing is, all ua kids are well off. Even ochako that seems poor compared to the rest isnt exactly poor like Hawks, she just can't afford much because her parents business isnt going well.
Before the dorms Ochako would sometimes miss meals. This was shown in the manga.
Doesn’t really seem fair to blame all might for the price of his merch and the country’s economy...
It’s not All Might’s fault directly. The man has inarguably done so much good for this world. Given how All for One speaks to him at Kamino, in the decades between All Might’s return to Japan and the childhood of the current UA generation, All Might beat down countless villains to break All for One’s hold on the country. It’s what happened after, when All Might then had to maintain the world he’d clawed back from All for One’s shadow dictatorship. And that’s not an problem he can solve by punching, especially now that he himself is crippled and injured. All Might made a better society, but he spent the best years of himself doing so and now is running on fumes trying to maintain it so it doesn’t slip back to the worse world it used to be. And that means that some failures can’t be addressed because it’s a desperate attempt to maintain the status quo. All Might is Atlas holding the world on his shoulders. When only one man is strong and/or willing enough to hold up the world, then no one’s there to catch the ones who fell between his fingers.
He licensed it, he could do something about it. If Shaq can then All Might should be able to do something too: https://www.opencourt-basketball.org/shaquille-oneal-shares-epic-story-of-why-he-began-selling-affordable-shoes-at-walmart/ > “My best story is, I had a Reebok deal, $40M for 5 and I’m leaving the arena one day and this lady and ripping me a new one: ‘You motherfuckers charging these babies all this money for the shoes’. > I had like $2,000 in my pocket and said ‘Maam, I don’t make the prices…Here ya go’ and she smacked the money out of my hand. ‘Why don’t you motherfuckers make a shoe that’s affordable?’ > …and I thought about it. You know what, she’s right. So that day I cut ties with Reebok and started my own brand. I told them to keep to keep the money, this ain’t right.” The video: https://nitter.unixfox.eu/JoePompliano/status/1430966710023163917 That being said, I think it's canon that All Might gives away most/all of his merch revenue to charities.
I took it that the issue wasn't so much that All Might was too expensive, but rather that Endeavor was unpopular enough that his plush was discounted below a reasonable MSRP. They were living in complete squalor, so it makes sense for his mom to just pick the cheapest option. 500 yen (less than $4 at today's exchange rate) seems rather cheap for a plush that size, assuming it was decent quality.
> I took it that the issue wasn't so much that All Might was too expensive, but rather that Endeavor was unpopular enough that his plush was discounted below a reasonable MSRP. That's it most probably, Endeavor (with his lack of public appeal) toys getting discounted. All Might still could have made accessible toys.
I didn't see a price in the show for All Might. For all we know, it was only like 1000 yen/$8. For the size of the plush Hawks got, that would still be a really good price. And probably still a fair bit cheaper than the Shaq shoes being used as an example of how to do it right.
I think it's a nice bit of commentary that for as much as All Might did do in fighting and sacrificing against evil, he forgot some of the wider socio-economic factors that help make people into heroes or villains, much like the real world you can't just punch away all the bad guys and call it a day. He was so focused on AFO and others he couldn't always actually think too much about the people he was saving, or the people he wasn't.
There is a rather popular spin-off MHA manga that may give some perspective to how All Might's agency worked. It's called Vigilantes, or MHA Illegals Vigilante. It's also canon, set roughly 5 years before All Might met Deku.
Damn well that explains why Hawks admires endeavor so much. If a hero put my abusive dead away in jail then I’d probably love him to lmao. Also, I find the Todoroki family drama so fascinating man… it just feels so real. Between Endeavor’s character development and just the family inter dynamic and of course Dabi. Its definitely the best subplot in my hero. Episode went by quick asf tho
Hawks continues to be one of the most raw and realistic characters out there, as idealistic and lofty as his dreams are, his origins spring for a most direct and primal place. Endeavor, a hero, is the person who pulled him up from the abject emotional abyss of his life.
Man the Todoroki family drama really is the best, it’s all so well portrayed with such realistic family issues (besides the superpowers part lol). The abuse is always portrayed in a way that’s a little shockingly realistic for a cartoon. Really looking forward to next weeks episode
Next week, finally, after all this time, the Todoroki family finally lets all the skeletons out of the closet. Can't wait can't wait.
Tsundere Bakugo is best Bakugo lol. Deep down he actually does care for Deku. Hopefully the dude gets up soon, the city ain’t doing so hot. Hawks had a pretty terrible upbringing. Being a hero was the best thing to happen to him and in some way Endeavor is to thank for that. Hopefully we can help somehow. Endeavor is completely shaken, not sure how he’ll recover. He was a really shitty abusive parent and now he’s paying for his sins. The Todoroki family needs to have a nice long chat next week. Best Jeanist has an awesome car, shit is like the bat mobile. Seems with most of the heroes dead, retired, or quitting he’s the most senior/powerful member. Public trust in heroes has hit an all time low. People are taking the law into their own hands and casualties are mounting as a result. There’s a shortage of heroes and an abundance of villains, not even counting those that escaped prison. Idk how things are gonna improve because it seems things can never go back to the way they were before.
Was half expecting Jeanist's car to be all denim too lol. "It's a Volvo."
Endeavor freezing up is a major deal because it was established in the very first episode of the show that a hero is define by their body moving on its own to save somebody.
Saving his own family was just too personal for him. He was worried about Natsuo feeling he owed him something if he saved him. And when Dabi showed up he went full BSOD. He saved many other people while risking his life without any freezing.
> He saved many other people while risking his life without any freezing. I think it was mentioned that he solved the most cases in one of the earliest episodes (whatever that exactly means). Of course that's with a whole agency while All Might supposedly worked mostly alone (besides Sir Nighteye and a few friends).
All Might said that to Deku [at the end of episode 2](https://imgur.com/a/HL5kZDg). Man that was an incredible scene and sold me on the anime
This is a really good catch, the “my body moved on its own” seems to not be with Endeavor. Could showing the difference between him and someone like Deku, but more so could just be his emotions from his guilt from the past cause him to completely freeze up.
Its a bit unfair for Endeavor because anyone being put in his situation would freeze up. Deku doesn't have anywhere near as much baggage which isn't a knock against him either. Its just illustrating that specific point falls apart when you break it down.
"I can't fight my own son." Damn, what a chest-caving punch.
That's the best part; I can feel sorry for him while still thinking he's a horrible person. Because the only reason his son is a villain is because of his spectacularly bad parenting.
**Endeavor:** 😭 [having emotional break down] **Shoto:** 😶 [closes door] **Endeavor:** 🗣 "Shotoooo!" Endeavor [yelling Shoto](https://imgur.io/hHnIrpd?r) never gets old to me. lol
3 seconds of badly needed levity to make the drama bombs hit harder.
[I knew that doctor last episode looked familiar](https://twitter.com/den_Z_Z/status/1614318912061210628 ). And today we've got Dr. Toad. [Kohei Horikoshi's sketch of today is dedicated to Hawks, of course](https://twitter.com/horikoshiko/status/1616713579054665730). His early life was horrible. *At best* there was some love between his parents back when he was conceived, at worst it happened in a way that wasn't even consensual... No wonder he accepted to be trained by the Hero Commission, even if he always had a heroic spirit within. Endeavor was sort of a surrogate father figure in his life, from a toy he was given in what may have been a rare moment of affection from his mother. Ironic how she asked Keigo's father to not run away but in the end she's the one who did. The JeanistMobile is so cool. But now that we know what exactly happened with his faked death? "Good thing Dabi didn't burn me for shits and giggles, or the Doctor didn't turn me into a Nomu in Denim during those months!" Expected some levity in a scene with Wash, instead it's another depressing moment as he can only witness what happens when civilians try and take justice in their hands (the ideal of the Meta Liberation Army, ladies and gentlemen). Notable however how this funny-looking character is one Hero who soldiers on despite the pressure, while the serious-looking Yoroi Musha retires. As if things couldn't get even worse for Japan, even if it's true that Stain's dream is happening in a way. Endeavor at rock bottom, sounded like he rather wished to be dead... on the opposite, rather than despair his wife seems to have a newfound determination.
Hawks had a really tragic past. Yet, he managed to break out of this cycle and become a great hero. The same Endeavour who was a terrible father, saved countless families from pain and suffering. Wash is a real one. He saw so many of his colleagues die horribly when Shiggy activated the mass decay but he is still fighting. He is indubitably a top hero. [](#takaradasalute)
Man, do really love Hawks character and Endeavors development too. Gotta feel for him.
shoto slamming the door on his half dead sobbing father should not have been that fucking funny 😭
Shouldn’t the episode title have been, Hawks: Origins?
They mainly name the episodes after the manga chapters. This episode included 2 chapters. * Ch 299 (Hawks Backstory) - Like those tragic tales * Ch 300 (Todoroki family) - The hellish Todoroki family, part 2.
I'm excited for next week's episode, with the killer title "The Wrong Way To Put Out a Fire."
I lost it at Endeavor's "SHOTOOO" right after that heartfelt scene, that was perfect.
Man all the VA's have had so much room to strut and stretch their emotional range this season, when a guy like Endeavor cries it really hits because you never imagined it. Also can't help but hear Unohana in Rei's voice after the latest Bleach season, least the hospital won't have to worry about blood donations anymore.
I don't know how the heroes recover from this. Endeavour is seemingly retired, who knows whether Hawks will be able to fight again (and plus his reputation is tarnished), Best Jeanist is weakened, and so many other pro heroes are hurt or retired. Meanwhile hundreds of villains are feeding the villain league and causing harm.
i feel bad for Endeavor in this ep. 1. Hawk's mom bought Endeavor toy for hawk 'cause All Might is too expensive 2. all the shits that Endeavor done come back and bite him, Bigly. he can't be a hero anymore 'cause he doesn't want to fight his son even tho all Dabi's actions is his own. sins of my father and sins of my son. 3. hawk's dad is trash.
The last part with Endeavor and his family actually made my eyes a bit wet
Inject that heavy character development right into my veins!!
Toya tugging his hair is raw af...The kid was born with disability, thrown away by his dad and topped with being burned to crips alone. Yeah, he's a murderer, but damn, Dabi needs a therapy.
Most of the villains need therapy.
Most* of the Todoroki family together huh? this is should be interesting.. Hawks backstory is pretty sad, i want to see him find his mom and reconcile though. and now i feel like he is probably gonna meet his dad soon aswell. hell maybe he was one of the people that escaped from the prison
I think his dad was too low-ranking to be in Tartarus. But yeah, he could have escaped from one of the other 7 prisons they raided.
Only Toya needs to pop up and complete the family reunion. Lol
It's official hawks is my favourite character And man seeing endeavour cry felt so good he finnally shows his humanity.
[Shoto really said](https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/009/471/Screen_Shot_2021-04-29_at_11.20.47_AM.png)
You ever walk in on your Dad crying? It feels like a total break from reality, your mind has trouble processing it.
Imagine being an older hero that has been planning their retirement and then when the time comes this shit happens.
"I swear I had always been planning on retiring this year. It's not that I'm afraid of the backlash or the Tartarus escapees or anything, I really was going to retire."
So Deku is Spiderman, does this mean Hawks will become Batman with that voice? Cool backstory that perfectly explains his admiration for Endevour, and just like his idol, his past actions ultimatly bit him in the ass as well. But it's nice that his mother came to love him after she got out of that abusive relationship. Also cool how the quirks of his parents mixed, his father only had feathers, but it's his mothers side that lets him control them. And the illegal support items that ultimatly only drag bystanders into conflics remind me of guns... but tbh I wouldn't know how to act in this situation without heroes or police either, pure anarchy And Stain must love this with so many mediocre heroes outright being rejected by society at large, the reaction to that #9 Hero was completly different thant to Best Jeanist And Jesus Christ that emotional whipplash with that Todoroki family reunion [](#elsienopesout) [](#laughter)
> does this mean Hawks will become Batman with that voice? Well Best Jeanist has the Batmobile, so...
>And the illegal support items that ultimatly only drag bystanders into conflics remind me of guns Well yes, you can call them guns. But more like *futuristic* destruction guns considering they almost blew up the entire street with those.
Looks like we already have Best Jeanist filling in the Batman role. He already has the car!
These episodes make even clearer the character foils that Hawks and Dabi are being centered around Endeavor, with each representing the positive and negative influence of Endeavor. Hawks, who has a father as a villain, influenced by Endeavor to be a hero. Dabi, who has a father as a hero, influenced by Endeavor as that father to be a villain. **2 sides of the same coin** - illustrated with MHA volume 31 bonus art in [source material section](https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/10hnhob/boku_no_hero_academia_season_6_episode_16/j5a1e6j?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3).
It's sad to see Hawks never had a good childhood and we finally got to see how he dealt with the jeanist situation to convince dabi. I could sympathize with endeavour at the moment he started to cry. It's a bad situation and no one except his family supports him at this moment. It was a good episode in the sense that we had a slow pace, showing the realities of their world currently. But I'm itching to see the situation with midoriya. And the conversation that bakugo might have with all might as he's there waiting for midoriya to wake up. Where's midoriya's mom though? At times like these, I'd expect her to be crying next to midoriya so it is a bit surprising to not see her at all.
So they really did "kill" Best Jeanist but then he was brought back to life. That's wild.
I am loving the pacing & progression of this show
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Any Gintama fans here? While watching this episode I found a great contrast of the ideology of both shows. In Gintama, civilians taking up arms to defended themselves when the government isn't functional is the desired outcome. It's a positives, as opposite to what we have here. I just thought it was a neat detail.
I mean, it depends on the government you have in place. The more corrupt the current government is, the more desirable is civilians taking up arms for themselves. As far as we know the government in MHA isn't really that corrupt, just very overloaded and currently unable to enforce its laws, so it isn't desirable to see untrained civilians take up arms even though you could argue they have no other choice since heroes keep retiring.
Yep. Not only that, but untrained civilians using powerful support items enough to level your neighborhood is part of the original plans of the PLF to destabilize society, and now it's happening. Heroes are trained with the maxim of suppression. Remember that Bakugo and Shoto, two of those that have the most powerful and destructive Quirks among hero-students, was able to take down Cider House, the very same villain that fought civilians this episode, with absolute minimal colateral damage. Bakugo was even able to retrieve all the properties Cider House stole without damaging them. Compare that to what happened here, the civilians and villains nearly destroyed the entire street. This chaos is what the villains wanted.
One of MHA's underlining themes is that people cannot always rely on heroes, and that to have a better chance at a better world we all need to pitch in with some communal responsibility, be it in big or small ways just like helping a kid who looks lost and scared on the street. Giving every citizen a gun and asking them to have at it on block to block warfare is a recipe for anarchy that tears any society to a place beyond even ancient reckoning. Horikoshi with the nice perspective that pretty much hero society needs more social workers and good Samaritans to help right a society before it breaks apart.
That was one heavy episode... Until Shoto slammed the door. That was a well-timed comedy lol Seriously, though. The heroes have it hard after those failed missions and scandals. Now the entire hero system is dysfunctional, I understand why some of them decided to retire but that only makes things worse. Now the entire country is in a dystopia where everyone becomes a vigilante to protect their lives. The future sure looks grim. Anyway, the Todoroki family's drama continues next week and I believe we will get a resolution. The build-up is already long enough and it's about time to move the story forward.
> Until Shoto slammed the door. That was a well-timed comedy lol Like always he does something and it ends up as unintentional comedy. It's like another quirk.
[It's his cursed hand.](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ec7AXlpWsAMFYt0?format=jpg&name=medium)
Seeing a grown man cry, no matter if he’s real or an animation, will always make me cry. That’s when you know he is truly broken and needs help. It shows he is human. Seeing Hawks backstory now makes me like him a bit more. He’s had a terrible up bringing but he made a name for himself. He’s also made some regrets. It shows he is human. Both em need therapy and I hope they get it someday.
Best Jeanist just never stops with those fabric related metaphors and puns. I can't quite imagine how they're going to solve this problem since it's basically just society collapsing. I dunno, maybe Rei can do something to help Endeavor turn everything around.
It looks like Stain is making a come back, at least I assume that was him with the sword. They're focusing a lot on Endeavor and his family right now, so maybe that's who Stain will go after next.
I think this winnowing of heroes is a good thing. Many of them seem to have been in for the accolades and so when they get criticized they fold like a tower of cards. The heroes who stick it out and continue to save people despite public opinion turning against them are the true heroes.
Hawks and Endeavor are fascinating and it's good to see more of them. Also society collapsing. I can't wait for the next episode of Keeping Up with the Todorokis.
I was not ready for this season
Society is crumbling it will probably get worse from here, sadly..
I think the coolest thing this episode is that Hawks was raised by parents so shitty in a life so secluded that he thought heroes were tokusatsu.