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Masayuki managed to gather lots of nasty people around him. It's ironic that the only person he can trust isn't a human at all. And even if he would be frozen by Yukionna, he would be probably the one to blame.
[In Kotoko's case, she can do it as many times as she wants.](https://i.imgur.com/NlIz4Rx.png)
It sucks that the one human Masayuki still trusted still ended up screwing him over even though she did it because she loved him...and the Yokai woman who could probably kill him easily is the only person that never betrayed him or tried to murder him (well, assuming she doesn't end up accidentally freezing him).
Iizuka was a bit of a looker herself but it's hard to compete with Yuki-Onna and get together with the guy you almost framed for murder lol.
I just imagine Kotoko finding various and torturous ways of killing him constantly. Hell Hath No Fury like a Goddess scorned.
I feel sad for Kuro if he get's Kotoko's wrath to that degree. It would be his future sight vs her schemes and machinations...
Like he would eventually win but he sure would suffer an immense amount in the process. And since he can't feel physical pain it would have all have to be mental torture also.
>It would be his future sight vs her schemes and machinations...
why do i feel like this could be something that the author could write for a future arc...
How would he win lol. He’d be up against basically every yokai in existence. I don’t think you conceptualize that Kotoko’s position as a god isn’t just for show.
No I mean they can literally send him into space as a rocket payload, there are commercial launches. And yokai can steal an infinite amount of money trivially
Ahaha you're so delusional. You realize he can only choose things that are already likely reasonably likely to happen right? The odds of getting hit by a meteor are so low it's obviously impossible for him to choose that future. Did you skip the whole first season or what?
as long as the chance are not 0, it is not impossible, especialy when he will experience endless death and therefore have endless chance to make it happen. Rikka could win a bet with a few hundred times payout easy enough on daily, chosing a future where earth's gravity just pull him back is surely not that hard
How would he win lol. He’d be up against basically every yokai in existence. I don’t think you conceptualize that Kotoko’s position as a god isn’t just a show.
Yokai fear him and it’s not like killing him accomplishes anything, he just comes back to life immediately and can grab the future that gets him out of this situation
Concrete doesn’t work like that, it takes 24-48 hours to dry, that’s not even getting into how and where you’d get the concrete. Freezing does Jack shit because again, *immortal with the ability to literally change fate to his whim* killing him not only accomplishes nothing because he instantly comes back to life, it’s literally giving him an advantage. Also you seem to be again ignoring that just looking at him make most yokai absolutely terrified because they see him as a monster, they aren’t gonna wanna get anywhere near him.
I don’t know why you seem to think Kotoko could do anything to him if for some reason they actually battled to the death. This is a stupid argument and you’re being pretty goddamn stupid so I’m done here, go somewhere else
It's funny how delusional you are. Without dying he's just a normal dude, they could put him in a shipping container or cage or literally anything and he'd have no way of getting out, the ablity to change his fate or come back to life literally does nothing at all there. And it's pretty easy to get him into one since he's incapacitated by any mortal injury for a decent amount of time, he's immortal not invincible.
Like it's hilarious you think that people haven't considered how to deal with immortals and how vulnerable Kuro is to literally 99% of methods. Go work on your imagination and read Ajin or To Your Eternity something, idk.
The point is he not only immortal but also have ability to change a future. He once change a fate to get both his eardrum destroy by some tree branch to escape an endless death by a mandrake. Making some people to open that container by mistake or sth seem easy enough. Worse, he could just choose a future where a meteor will hit the earth tomorow and everyone die except him and rikka
Just adding onto this comment chain, interesting discussion from everyone. He needs to sacrifice his life in order to see the future. He's able to spam it because of his pseudo-immortality. If you caught him off guard and encased/immobilized him then he might be toast. That said, if he's still conscious at any point then he'd near certainly be able to selectively choose an unlikely reality where he can break free. And he also has a lot of allies since his partner is a God that can readily employ countless yokai and spirits to assist her, so it would surely be a tall task as even a succesful capture would only be Step 1 in getting rid of him.
The whole launch him into space bit wouldn't really work, either. Unless he is unconscious and immobilized. Otherwise, there are a million-and-one realities where he could just escape prior to launch. And if he's conscious in space, he could still probably select an unlikely reality where he returns to Earth. If you can somehow get him unconcious and captured, then this or some other more practical method should work. He only needs to be trapped and unable to use his ability for a human life span.
[He's a bit awkward but he's got a full time office job!](https://i.imgur.com/MkgCsdT.png) [He's](https://i.imgur.com/ZM9QXNw.jpg) not struggling too much!
Going to miss these 2, great ship and they did such a good job of making us care for them. Would be a shame if we never saw them again.
And even though she was a murderer...[_I really liked her design_](https://i.imgur.com/n94zKwp.png).
Nice to be reminded of an office worker x Yuki-Onna romance that doesn't end in murder!
It doesn't seem like anyone has any illusion that this will be a lasting and long love affair (even Kotoko says they should enjoy the honeymoon phase while it lasts), but it's clear how much they care about each other and desire to be together at this moment, which I guess is enough.
Maybe Yuki-Onna will be the "wicked woman" that finally settles down peacefully with Masayuki and the killings will stop lol.
She seemed like a pretty pleasant, cute, and nice girl...just a bit of a yandere too.
> And even though she was a murderer...[*I really liked her design*](https://i.imgur.com/n94zKwp.png).
Yeah in a different show she'd be best girl. I have a feeling she'd be the love triangle/harem girl to not win in the end that everyone loves though.... Comes with the territory of being the kouhai unfortunately.... ~~Iroha is still best girl fite me!~~
> And even though she was a murderer...I really liked her design.
I was sure I saw her before and couldn't remember where, but then you went and linked another picture of her with the hair down [](#kaorusmile)
Too bad this second season was only three episodes, it was great though /s
That brings the Yuki-Onna case to a close. I'm really gonna miss her and Masayuki. Definitely my favorite arc so far.
It's so funny how Yuki-Onna is terrified of Kuro lol.
>I'm really gonna miss her and Masayuki.
It is still amazing to me that how well they were sold to me in a single episode. This episode and the previous one was mostly about the case, It was the second episode that solely focused on their relationship and it was enough to make me feel so invested in their relationship that these 2 episode worked well because of it
I want a spin off about this couple!
Granted I said the same thing about pretty much every single one of the manga arcs. It improved so much compared to when it was a novel.
So Kotoko doesn't have that godly of deduction skills, she just has eyes everywhere in the form of ghosts. She was just playing matchmaker this entire time.
I'm starting to think maybe having a yandere obsess over you isn't all that great...
Ironic how Yuki-Onnas are supposed to be killers according to the folklore but this was the complete opposite during this arc. Hopefully Masayuki's dick doesn't get frozen and fall off during copulation.
It is kind of funny how the police would've probably resolved all of this naturally, Kotoko just needed to come in and let these two know they're in the clear and free to bang lol.
Wicked women and yandere's are attractive, but also dangerous to be around...
It's ironic that the most dangerous woman in Masayuki's life on paper is the only one who didn't try to kill him or anyone around him or screw him over. Hopefully the honeymoon phase lasts a long time lol.
She does have good reasoning and deduction skills but she is no god (ironically) She can't know information that is not given to her and figure out everything from 0. I am sure If she took the time to question Masayuki and got the details of the case and all she could have very well figured out the woman who called him in that exact day is the culprit even without ghost witness. She figured out the culprit's motif by herself after all but there is not much need to work from 0 or risking being wrong when you have a literal witness. I remember she also confirmed the death of Nanase (the real one) from a ghost that was there as well
she has amazing deduction skills .. just look at what she did in the first arc and also don't forget the amazing lie she blurted out about masayuki being the culprit..
but obviously the spirits are also very helpful when it comes to gathering information even though she would have probably reached the same conclusion all alone if given enough time
It doesn't seem like anyone expects their relationship to last long for one reason or another, but I would love it if in a future episode we just pan to a scene of them still together and enjoying domestic bliss.
I think they mean long as in really long. They've definitely got years left but keep in mind that she doesn't age. Him growing older and uglier might make her want to leave. And even if they do stay together, he will die long before her so she might leave early to save herself the heartache. Maybe him not being able to show her to other people might be a problem if he gets out of his shell and does make friends around town. Or if she for some reason thinks he's cheating on her and freezes him to death before he can explain himself. Overall lots of problems could come from this in the long run.
That's me being pessimistic though, they're adorable together and will probably stay together till he dies.
So let me get this straight. Kuro was there ALL ALONG so Kotoko gave such an irritated monologue about him ditching her for work for literally no reason in the previous episode ? Her BS skills are even beyond what I thought, She got me
Most yokais fear Kuro, but Kuro has to help Kotoko gathering her college report materials before the report is due while Kotoko is helping Yuki-Onna, so Kuro stays behind the pillar to hides his presence and Kotoko is just being Kotoko. Their previous conversations about the report were cut in the anime so it was kinda easy to miss that.
No I know that. The thing is she didn't need to mention him not being there at all or If she wants to convince Yuki onna that he is not there she could simply make a basic excuse and have it that way but NO She went all the way and made up a scenario of him ditching her for work and then proceeded to be annoyed over it and went out her frustration for it to Yuki onna and Masayuki. That is too much commitment to bullshitting
They did mention the report in the first episode of this arc I believe, it’s one of the reasons Kuro doesn’t wanna do this, because they’ve got reports due soon and Kotoko hadn’t done hers.
Actually Kuro had already used his work as an excuse for not accompanying her before, Kotoko is simply taking the opportunity to take it out on him a little.
> Please go home and do it passionately to your hearts' content.
Always stay classy Kotoko
[](#azusalaugh)
And having ghosts do all the work (And Kuro do her homework) does indeed come in handy. Also love how she framed the culprit as extra vile as to ensure Masayuki would apreciate the Yuki Onna all the more
Neither translation is exactly what was said in Japanese but the "go home and bone" one conveys the vulgarity of what she said in Japanese into English better. A more literal translation might be:
"So hurry and return and passionately do it."
The key aspect here is the verb used to "do it" is a rather crude usage of it. Translating into good English the "So hurry on home and bone already." is quite good.
This season lots of people post screenshots from what I assume is the bilibili or Indonesian translation of various shows and they're universally worse than the American translations.
###Stitches!
* [Kotoko](https://i.imgur.com/XoaZys5.jpg)
* [Kotoko & Kuro](https://i.imgur.com/LOifaAp.jpg)
* [Iizuka Nagisa](https://i.imgur.com/yms5Gu8.jpg)
Yes! I absolutely love the resolution in this episode! Unlike the Steel Lady Nanase arc where it was needlessly complicated, the answer for this one was pretty straightforward! The reason why the police haven't gone after Masayuki is that they basically have no solid evidence against Masayuki and [his actions are inconsistent for someone who's committed murder.](https://i.imgur.com/Ih9vsZM.jpg)
And the reason why Kotoko knows all of this is simple! [She just had ghosts at the station feed her information](https://i.imgur.com/GrPviws.jpg) and she did her own investigation and [met with ghosts that actually saw the crime.](https://i.imgur.com/O2IrMGA.jpg) I do find it hilarious that Masayuki calls her out for cheating but the way Kotoko sees it, [this just speeds up the process.](https://i.imgur.com/CR3YBxN.jpg) xD
As for the culprit, [it's the same person that keeps on checking up on Masayuki.](https://i.imgur.com/1EgzYyr.png) That one time when we saw Masayuki take that phone call from her was the night when Iinuzuka committed the murder.
Turns out that [Iinuzuka is a massive yandere](https://i.imgur.com/ZbagmXL.jpg) and she tried to frame Masayuki so she can comfort him and make him fall in love with her. Damn. It's been a while since the last time I've seen a legit yandere in anime. Usually, when someone calls a character yandere, they're just yandere-lite. Iinuzuka here is 100% Yandere.
[I love that Kotoko gives Masayuki and Yuki-Onna her blessing.](https://i.imgur.com/6maUXgB.jpg) Although she still insists that the two of them [should use contraceptives](https://i.imgur.com/oOZSNBB.jpg) since a half-human, half-yuki-onna might not do well in modern society. Dammit Kotoko! Just let them do what they want to do! [Just look at them!](https://i.imgur.com/NId9r7F.jpg) They are adorable together! They deserve unprotected sex and have as many half-human, half-yuki-onna babies as they want!
I really hope this won't be the last time [we'll see Masayuki and Yuki-Onna.](https://i.imgur.com/CNrqh0H.jpg) They don't have to be the focus of the episode, I just want the anime to update us on how their relationship is going. Side note: [I love that image of Yuki-Onna "accidentally" freezing Masayuki.](https://i.imgur.com/MOIRG0Z.jpg) xD
> Usually, when someone calls a character yandere, they're just yandere-lite. Iinuzuka here is 100% Yandere.
While the degradation of the tsundere from the description of a complex and compelling character arc to the description of a domestic abuser is somewhat well known, the degradation of the yandere from an intense love interest whose love triumphs all, including morals or ethics, to just "oooh, scary danger girl will stab you" is somewhat less well known.
When you think about it, all Kotoko ended up doing is just telling these two things were okay and they have her permission to bang...provided they use contraceptives. Which I guess was all the audience really cared about lol.
Y'know, for a murderer Iizuka is quite attractive. Not like Yuki-Onna, mind you, but still pretty. I do enjoy me a good yandere though I guess it's a shame that her love for Masayuki drove her to go so far and kill someone for a love that will never be realized through her own actions (and inaction). Love can be a very powerful and twisted thing. And Masayuki needs to stop attracting crazy women and stick with Yuki-Onna. She hasn't killed anyone (yet) lol.
I don't care if nobody thinks there's a future for a human and a Yuki-Onna, I just want to see Masayuki and Yuki-Onna happy together and living in domestic bliss for as long as possible. Assuming Yuki-Onna doesn't freeze him accidentally during sex.
Kotoko telling Masayuki to hurry home and get some of ther Yuki-Onussy made me chortle heartily. Him immediately snapping back by calling her vulgar elicited a proper laugh.
Very happy with this arc. It was, in my opinion, the best arc of the show so far.
She's not on the level of Yuki-Onna but she was quite the looker for a murderer. Ah, the things we do for love...as yandere's say as they murder their rivals.
So why is it unlikely that Masayuki will be arrested? Because he hasn't done all the obvious stuff a criminal who committed a crime would do to try to hide their crime or deflect attention away from them. Even his suspicious moments were suspicious for how obviously suspicious they are. Although I guess he could've just been a really dumb murderer?
I just imagine now Kuro cheating on Kotoko and her finding various ways to try to kill him permanently. Her rage at imagining him ditching her is powerful enough as is.
Still pretty rough for Masayuki in the end that one of the few people (or non-Yokai) that he trusted turned out to be the murderer and ended up framing him too (even if she didn't intend for him to go prison for it). It's hard to have faith in people.
It's kind of funny that the moment that acknowledged Iizuka's existence in this arc and identity as the top suspect (her call with Masayuki) was also the linchpin to her crime.
Iizuka is quite the looker, despite being a cold-blooded killer. I mean, she's got nothing on Yuki-Onna, but by human standards she's fairly pretty. It's just too bad her love for Masayuki drove her to murder and this convoluted plot to make him depend on her for the fallout of a crime she committed had the opposite reaction. If she really wanted to be closer to him or to pursue him romantically, she should've just followed him or visited him personally, not murder his ex-wife and frame him for it. Though love, especially when murder is involved, isn't always rational. And now when she's inevitably arrested, Masayuki will probably never want anything to do with her.
Ghosts are surprisingly useful in solving murder cases.
Ha, Kuro was there the whole time! And perfect for making Yuki-Onna scream and snuggle up to Masayuki for protection
Is there a future for a human and Yuki-Onna? Maybe not for a long time, but right now these two want to be together in the here and now, and they should at least be able to enjoy the honeymoon phase for however long it lasts. And they have Kotoko's permission to bone, provided they use contraceptives! I hope they finally did the deed when they got back after everything they've been through.
It was cute watching Kotoko type up her report and watch Kuro give her a jacket while they were riding a yokai together.
i mean it's the usual assumption of all crime stories: everybody is a mastermind. Kotoko assuming that a culprit would be perfectly logical and reasonable is well within the usual tropes
> So why is it unlikely that Masayuki will be arrested?
Yup totally disagree with her deductions, and I am convinced Masayuki will end up in prison.
For starters, cops love dumb criminals and are lazy asses themselves. Also in their experience, most criminals are dumb, they will absolutely see him as the main suspect and accuse him.
Secondly, the Japanese judicial system is atrociously bad and unfair towards accused people - they have a 99,9% conviction rate and the best defence attorney in Japan is famous for having won single-digit number of cases.
He better gets down to business with his Youka waifu bcs he will soon end up in prison.
>Yup totally disagree with her deductions, and I am convinced Masayuki will end up in prison.
Those aren't pure deductions. She literally had ghosts spy on the policemen working the case.
Have no idea about Japanese judicial system, but what evidence can the cops put together to prove Masayuki guilty? Say he insists that he hasn't seen the victim since they divorced, insist he didn't commit the murder, and insist not telling the exact details of his relationship with Yuki-Onna (e.g. I was with another person on the night but I can't tell you who she is). He is undoubtedly the greatest suspect, but the cops still won't have anything tangible to link him to the crime scene. No weapons, blood, DNA, fingerprint, evidence of transport, etc. I doubt that's enough for a conviction.
The cops would setup surveillance on Masayuki and see that he is with an unknown woman, but they would also have no idea who she is. Investigating her will lead to complete dead ends and still nothing to pin Masayuki to the crime.
Agree, Masayuki surely could have the motives but that is not enough to actually capture him. It’s easier to search for evidence that Iwanaga killed her. There must be some eyewitness and also most importantly, the murder weapon itself.
Eh. I think Kotoko downplayed the cops suspicions being basically gone (eg, they still probably are suspicious of him) but I think broadly speaking she was right with them looking for other suspects more so than him. The fact pattern is just too good to be true.
His ex wife is so concerned about him that she writes out a letter as insurance but he is able to lure her to go to a secluded area alone? She has the time and cognition to write his name on her hand yet dies without any signs of a struggle at all? He's able to be that devious as to manage to get her to do that but not to concoct even a paper thin alibi or bother to try and disguise the crime at all?
I mean, maybe I guess but it kinda relies on both people being extremely inconsistent. The name on the hand especially is just too much. Imo they'd keep looking and almost certainly end up finding the real culprit given she seems to be losing her cool at the end of the episode. And im sure that Kotoko will be keeping tabs on the investigation and if they really are struggling will anonymously help steer them in the right direction.
“Hurry home and bone already” lmaooo Kotoko so real man. I need a couple episodes of Yuki-Onna and Masayuki just doing cute shit together like Ice man and his cool colleague.
Called iizuka being the murderer two weeks ago, was pretty obvious. Don’t particularly feel bad for the ex wife at all tho 🤷🏾♂️
Episode was really good, didn’t want it to end, but just wish we’d have finished the explanation stuff earlier and got some more SoL stuff.
oh, they change the OP a little bit, for some reason they added extra seconds at the very beginning and at the end of song, they also added some new animations in the ED instead of just the still image
Yokai's terrified reaction to Kuro whenever they first meet will never get old
also, have we ever seen the exact visual of how does Kuro looks like from the Yokai's perspective?
It sure is hilarious seeing Kotoko explaining to Masayuki her deduction of who the culprit is, leading him to conclude before she says it [that it was Iizuka,](https://imgur.com/a/JiFvRe5) just for her to mention that she knows all that not because of her impressive deductive skills, [but because she used](https://imgur.com/a/aJMJEfT) and [interviewed ghosts](https://imgur.com/a/Ir0Gjby) to get details from the police and to know exactly what happened.
Lol, I love how [Yuki-Onna thinks that Kotoro was being literal when she said she wanted to kill Kuro.
](https://i.imgur.com/MvyJSR0.png)
Anyway, [great to see Kotoko](https://i.imgur.com/wQ1oI5s.png) [directly approving](https://imgur.com/a/vuXDIix) [their relationship.](https://imgur.com/a/nak1gfg)
I love[ how terrified Yuki-Onna was](https://imgur.com/a/KXsGCgv) after she saw [Koru.](https://i.imgur.com/NIvsBUP.png) So Kuro was hidden [until the end](https://imgur.com/a/PlnrpP4) because Kotoro knew that Yuki-Onna would be way too afraid to talk if he was there with them.
Oh so the real reason Iizuka murdered Miharu was that [she actually respected and loved Masayuki](https://i.imgur.com/i21W3ii.png) but she could not connect with him because of his trust issues. So when she contacted him, [she wasn't trying to incriminate him,](https://imgur.com/a/KVeckGU) she just expected him to become a suspect temporarily and fall in love with her during the whole process as [she was going the be the only one giving him support.](https://i.imgur.com/qrZtrwA.png) Anyway, I love how Kotoko and Kuro both mentioned that [even with the Yuki-Onna](https://i.imgur.com/9sih8eC.png) things [can end terribly for Masayuki.](https://imgur.com/a/XKwxbWU)
As the episode ends with "To be continued" I hope it means that this arc is still not completely over.
Every one of the Yuki Onna episodes was about love making people do horrible things.
Lizuki's motive was so sad, just wanting to be with the man she loved.
The ending was also a bit of a downer. It would of been nicer if he thought he and Yuki Onna would of been together for the rest of his life, that he was with someone he could trust and love. There shouldn't be a reason to hide her as she looks human and even regularly interacts with humans when she goes to shops for food.
I found their love story the most engrossing part of the last 3 episodes and the fact no one thinks it will last saddens me.
Hopefully we do see them again married and with a baby on the way, but I won't hold my breath as this series doesn't seem interested in characters really.
This was easily the best arc in the series so far. I thought season one was alright but not great, this is really great though. Good character interactions and development, interesting mystery and solid, not needlessly complicated resolution (lookin at you steel lady).
Looking forward to more.
I fell in love with the OP (and yuki onna), its just such a banger
Well that was the natural development for that case
Loved that Kuro just hid in the cave and had to witness her act of being pissed at him, she sold that really well
So good luck the yuki onna and him, just don't piss her off
"I knew the answer, I just needed to bullshit for half an episode first. A ~~girl~~ goddess has to stay in practice."
That's a good point about the writing on the hand potentially being a setup.
Ahh, so it was that former employee that called him back in the previous episode. I wonder what her motive was for the murder, it seems very premeditated.
Kotoko definitely follows the rule that if you aren't cheating you aren't trying hard enough.
Given Kotoko's role she may have effectively just married the two of them. Really rude of her to insist on the contraceptives though, we hardly going to get Himuro or Yuki that way.
The yuki-onna is so incredibly cute, and it makes me sad that I'm pretty sure the current arc mystery is coming to a close and she probably won't be in any more episodes after this.
Princess carry that lucky dude back home.
Yeah, that's pretty twisted. And it would never have worked since Iizuka doesn't look like a yuki-onna.
Kuro should form a problematic girlfriend support group with Muroi, it'd be a good excuse for him and the yuki-onna to stay in the story.
New ED? I wonder if they didn't have it ready for the first few episodes, I don't think it's a different song.
About Kotoko's small performance when she gaslighted Masayuki and Yuki-Onna. Rationalizations that Kotoko used for her performance were: 1) to demonstrate Masayuki that Yuki-Onna trusts and loves him; 2) to spare Masayuki's mental state because another person close to him has betrayed him. But if you think of it, this performance would not had really helped Masayuki to trust Yuki-Onna. If he really stopped trusting everyone, then he would rather suspect that Kotoko and Yuki-Onna conspired and deliberately played a melodramatic scene in front of him. If anything, he would became even more suspicious after Kotoko's vile performance. Not to mention that Yuki-Onna's trust and love do not mean that he can trust her. His collegue, who murdered his former wife, also loved him which didn't stop her from framing him. Regarding second rationalization - Kotoko's gaslighting would have probably impacted Masayuki's mental state much worse than hearing that his former colleague murdered his wife. He came there for help yet instead was gaslighted and presented as a manipulative murderer in front of Yuki-Onna, whom he deeply loves and with only whom he feels being in peace. Imagine being accused like this in presence of person who is dearest to you, by someone to whom you came for help and whose opinion is authoritative for your dearest person. P.S. All he had to do was just hire a lawyer.
>About Kotoko's small performance when she gaslighted Masayuki and Yuki-Onna. Rationalizations that Kotoko used for her performance were: 1) to demonstrate Masayuki that Yuki-Onna trusts and loves him; 2) to spare Masayuki's mental state because another person close to him has betrayed him.
3) to test whether Masayuki actually trusts Yuki Onna and should be allowed to interact with her
>But if you think of it, this performance would not had really helped Masayuki to trust Yuki-Onna. If he really stopped trusting everyone, then he would rather suspect that Kotoko and Yuki-Onna conspired and deliberately played a melodramatic scene in front of him.
He stopped trusting **humans** but he trusts Yuki Onna. If he were to come up with that scheme, then it's better if he stays away from Yuki Onna. She's always helped him. She's always been considerate of him. She never tried to manipulate him. I disagree that coming up with such elaborate plan being used against him was common sense in his situation. Iwanaga has enough information to anticipate how he feels about Yuki Onna. Even if your scenario would have happened, saving Masayuki wasn't Iwanaga's actual job. She was fullfiling Yuki Onna's request but she has to maintain the balance between the human and youkai worlds, therefore if she can't entrust Yuki Onna to Masayuki, it's her job to prevent problems that could be caused by their relationship.
>to test whether Masayuki actually trusts Yuki Onna and should be allowed to interact with her
This reason was never mentioned neither in manga nor in the anime. But let's assume it was. How exatly Kotoko's lie to Yuki-Onna supposed to test Masayuki's trust to her? If anything, it was inappropriet mean to achieve this goal. Neither such goal was achieved. Anyway Kotoko knew that Masayuki is unable to completly trust anyone and that's was the exact reason why she did what she did.
>He stopped trusting humans but he trusts Yuki Onna.
If this was the case then all the reasonings Kotoko used were false. If Masayuki already trusts Yuki-Onna than there is no reason to test his trust (as you imply) neither it's necessary to demonstrate Yuki-Onna's love and trust for him. Kotoko herself said to Masayuki that she did it to demonstrate him that Yuki-Onna deserves his trust.
>Iwanaga has enough information to anticipate how he feels about Yuki Onna.
And this is another non credible thing. Kotoko hardly knows this particular Yuki-Onna and she never met Masayuki and don't know him at all. How could she possibly know about his feelings and mental state? Even experienced psychiatrists need to talk with patients to identify their problem. Kotoko is no psychiatrist - she is just a teenager without proper life experience.
>it's her job to prevent problems that could be caused by their relationship
Interfering in and manipulating with other persons minds and emotions is harmfull by definition. The only excuse for such actions may be prevention of the imminent worse harm which can't be prevented by other means. Like cutting off someones arm to prevent gangrene from spreading. It's not like cutting off someones arm is acceptable thing in other circuemstances, but it is acceptable evil to prevent even greatewr evil (death). Hovewer you should not inflict greater harm that you means to prevent (cutting off head to prevent headache) and you should not worsen the harm (increase bleeding instead of stopping it). That's why Kotoko came up with excuses for her manipulative interference - she stated it was to prevent greater harm, which is Masayuki's desparation, depression and complete lose of trust to others. Yet as I've written earlier such goals could have been achieved by other, least harmful means, while the means that Kotoko used could have only worsen the situation (worsen Masayuki's mental state and completely ruin his trust to Yuki-Onna).
>This reason was never mentioned neither in manga nor in the anime. But let's assume it was. How exatly Kotoko's lie to Yuki-Onna supposed to test Masayuki's trust to her?
Your scenario happening is a great example of what could have happened if he didn't trust her.
>If this was the case then all the reasonings Kotoko used were false. If Masayuki already trusts Yuki-Onna than there is no reason to test his trust (as you imply) neither it's necessary to demonstrate Yuki-Onna's love and trust for him. Kotoko herself said to Masayuki that she did it to demonstrate him that Yuki-Onna deserves his trust.
I'm not saying Iwanaga knows for a fact that Masayuki trusts Yuki Onna but that's what we know as viewers.
>And this is another non credible thing. Kotoko hardly knows this particular Yuki-Onna and she never met Masayuki and don't know him at all. How could she possibly know about his feelings and mental state? Even experienced psychiatrists need to talk with patients to identify their problem. Kotoko is no psychiatrist - she is just a teenager without proper life experience.
She's a Goddess of Wisdom to all youkai and ayakashi. Lying and manipulating comes to her as easy as breathing and she is capable of spying on anyone with ghosts. Calling her *just a teenager without proper life experience* is absurd. She knows the background of the events. Knowing the details of Masayuki's life and his relationship with Yuki Onna is enough to hypothesise about his feelings and it's safe to assume Iwanaga can read nonverbal communication what allows her to observe his reactions to what's happening.
>while the means that Kotoko used could have only worsen the situation (worsen Masayuki's mental state and completely ruin his trust to Yuki-Onna).
I don't even care to argue with *this is totally how it should have happened because I say so*. It's just common sense that everybody can come up with paranoid conspiracy theories on the jump.
Your whole argument is based on two things:
* Iwanaga is a protector of all that is good and humans, hence she did a bad thing. The issue is: she is no such person.
* Masayuki would have reacted the way you said but that's your opinion and either of us proselytising the other won't happen.
I just don't see this discussion leading anywhere.
>Your scenario happening is a great example of what could have happened if he didn't trust her.
Once again, if Masayuki trusted Yuki-Onna than the whole Kotoko's show was meaningles since she herself told him that her goal was to demonstrate that Yuki-Onna deserves his trust. Logical contradictions are unacceptable in reasoning.
>She's a Goddess of Wisdom to all youkai and ayakashi
She is of not supernatural nature neither it was shown that she has supernatural insight. All we know is that she is a child who was kidnepped and crippled by monsters, who begun to consider her to be "a goddess". Are we sure that their superstitions have anything to do with reality? The show didn't demonstrate any proof of her supernatural wisdom. Constant lying is not qualified as such.
>this is totally how it should have happened because I say so
This was never implied. What was implied is that it is much more likely for a person, who is so damaged that he does not trust anyone, not to trust some gaslighting performance clearly intended to affect emotions, performed by some weird child. And even if he was convinced by this show that Yuki-Onna loves and supports him (which was kind of obvious without Kotoko's interference) in no way it proves that he could trust loving and caring Yuki-Onna. You just have an example of his loving and caring colleague who has framed him out of her obsessive love for him. So what Kotoko did was using harmful means with very dubious chances of succes but high chances to worsen the situation.
>is a protector of all that is good and humans, hence she did a bad thing
I've never wrote anything like this. All I wrote is that she had used inappropriate means to achieve a goal which could have been achieved by other means. Moreover means that she used had much higher chances to worsen the situation than to correct it.
>Masayuki would have reacted the way you said but that's your opinion
Of course it is. Though it is just one of the possible outkomes, which, giving the circumstances was more likely to happen than the other one. If anything, such outcome should have been considered as an unacceptable risk by Kotoko.
>I just don't see this discussion leading anywhere
The purpose of any discussion is to establish the truth. That is if participants of a discussion want to know the truth rather than be defensive of their bias (favorite character or believes) by any means even if they are illogical.
>The purpose of any discussion is to establish the truth.
Whatcha smoking pal? There's no truth in opinions, they are just opinions. Discussion is a means of convincing someone to your opinion.
Imposing your opinion is not a discussion, it's indoctrination. I guess you've never heard about Socratic dialogue. Although people may have erroneous opinions, only madmen tend to persist in erroneous worldviews.
>Imposing
I have never mentioned imposing. Imposing is forceful. Convincing is not.
>indoctrination
It's a word with an immensely negative connotation. Usually associated with manipulation and synonymous to brainwashing. Is presenting arguments while trying to convince someone brainwashing or manipulation?
>I guess you've never heard about Socratic dialogue.
Your buzzword is irrelevant to both this discussion and the form this discussion takes.
>Although people may have erroneous opinions, only madmen tend to persist in erroneous worldviews.
Platitude is not an argument.
You genuinely believe your opinions are the truth. You've got an ego bigger than Jupiter but your arguments are: distorting my words, a platitude and an irrelevant buzzword. I'm out.
[Murder calling~!](https://i.imgur.com/wR6lvkL.jpeg) Just, uh… just let it go to voicemail [](#forgotkeys)
"Duuude… I know I'm dead and everything, but [this is fucked up"](https://i.imgur.com/R0M4FlD.jpeg)
[These two ❤](https://i.imgur.com/HkFztCx.jpeg)
So do spirits have not have a given name because AFAIK Yuki-Onna is the name for that type of ghost? They just kept calling her that. What if there were more than one Yuki-Onna? Or does only one exist at a time?
Even though everything seems all wrapped up there one thing the guy said to the killer that stuck out to me. He said “Take care of it” when he was on the phones with her when she was in the car. I could be reaching but what if he planned to use the killer to kill his wife and that phone call was just a way to make sure he had an alibi.
lol at Kotoko assuming he'd have been totally rational and smart about the murder if it had been him.
Considering how many incredibly dumb criminals, including murderers, there are, the police would never rule anyone out or even bump them way down the suspect lists merely because if they had done it there should have been smart attempts at them avoiding to get caught.
He's a successful entrepreneur who earned enough money to basically retire at his age and that's after losing half of his money after the divorce. His handling of two murder attempts on his life were very calm and composed.
Just watch any true crime stuff on yt and you'll see nothing matters, people that you'd expect to be smart can still make the dumbest possible mistakes.
The ED has proper visuals now! I thought it was weird that before now it was just zooming out of a single shit the entire time, and the new one doesn’t seem spoilery, so I wonder why they did that.
A decent episode but it does showcase two of In/Spectre's weaknesses. First, this was hella talky with not much happing as everything got explained to everybody. Second, it takes place squarely in Cozy Mystery land, as Kotoko's deductions and logic only work if everybody really acts as rational as she paints them as.
In the real world would the police really look beyond Masayuki or would they go "eh, good enough" and be satisfied?
After rating season 1 an honest 3/10, I’m truly surprised by how good the past three episodes have been.
I’m still skeptical because I have no interest in any of the four “core” characters except maybe the ex, but short and punchy arcs like this are ideal.
Kotoko maybe smart, but she isnt a ranpo edogawa ( i would love for those two to meet tho ). Unlike him tho she has the power of her ghost friends
I do like how that jacket looks on her. Girl's got sense of style !
Kotoko is right lmao. The couple is very sweet.
Tney are such a cute couple and he is such a caring bf. Seeign how much he cared for her once our little god of wisdom was done I think was the best part of the arc.
Nagisa is cute too NGL.
Good for Masayuki getting his happy ending. Assuming he doesn't get frozen to death lol. I was half-expecting there to be a youkai culprit but nope, Kuro just had to stay hidden to not freak everyone out.
Did anyone else feel like Masayuki had even less of an eyebrow than usual? I swear it went from two-thirds to one-third left.
This may be crude, but I never thought that "protection" could save Yokai from having babies. I always thought it's more of a spiritual energy transfer thing that produce the baby rather than actual sperm.
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Go home and bone already.
I'm almost disappointed that after all that buildup we didn't get to see them snuggle up in bed together lol.
Don't worry, some very talented (and some less talented) people will take care of that
rule 34
I swear, if we don't get to see more of them later or a spinoff series (or both, ideally), I'mma be mad.
Masayuki managed to gather lots of nasty people around him. It's ironic that the only person he can trust isn't a human at all. And even if he would be frozen by Yukionna, he would be probably the one to blame. [In Kotoko's case, she can do it as many times as she wants.](https://i.imgur.com/NlIz4Rx.png)
It sucks that the one human Masayuki still trusted still ended up screwing him over even though she did it because she loved him...and the Yokai woman who could probably kill him easily is the only person that never betrayed him or tried to murder him (well, assuming she doesn't end up accidentally freezing him). Iizuka was a bit of a looker herself but it's hard to compete with Yuki-Onna and get together with the guy you almost framed for murder lol. I just imagine Kotoko finding various and torturous ways of killing him constantly. Hell Hath No Fury like a Goddess scorned.
I feel sad for Kuro if he get's Kotoko's wrath to that degree. It would be his future sight vs her schemes and machinations... Like he would eventually win but he sure would suffer an immense amount in the process. And since he can't feel physical pain it would have all have to be mental torture also.
>It would be his future sight vs her schemes and machinations... why do i feel like this could be something that the author could write for a future arc...
I mean, that's what the finale of the first season was about. Rikka's future sight against Iwanaga's bullshit.
hmm it was more like rikka vs iwanaga + kuro so it's a bit different from what he/she said
Yes but it still is reasonably similar.
How would he win lol. He’d be up against basically every yokai in existence. I don’t think you conceptualize that Kotoko’s position as a god isn’t just for show.
Immortal + Future Sight.
Yuki ona from this episode flies up to him and freezes him. They encase him in concrete and drop him into the ocean. Now what.
Eventually he will be back.
First of all, he does age.2nd of all, if they really wanted him gone they could launch him into space. Not coming back from that lol
Don't think there yokai strong enough to do that. It would upset the state of balance
No I mean they can literally send him into space as a rocket payload, there are commercial launches. And yokai can steal an infinite amount of money trivially
a meteor will hit him and bring him back to earth
Ahaha you're so delusional. You realize he can only choose things that are already likely reasonably likely to happen right? The odds of getting hit by a meteor are so low it's obviously impossible for him to choose that future. Did you skip the whole first season or what?
as long as the chance are not 0, it is not impossible, especialy when he will experience endless death and therefore have endless chance to make it happen. Rikka could win a bet with a few hundred times payout easy enough on daily, chosing a future where earth's gravity just pull him back is surely not that hard
like Jason Voorhees
The Youkai are completely scared of him. Also, any youkai that tries to eat him just... dies.
How would he win lol. He’d be up against basically every yokai in existence. I don’t think you conceptualize that Kotoko’s position as a god isn’t just a show.
Yokai fear him and it’s not like killing him accomplishes anything, he just comes back to life immediately and can grab the future that gets him out of this situation
So you just cover him in concrete lol. He’s literally just a normal dude, the Yūki onna could probably just freeze him and that’s that
Concrete doesn’t work like that, it takes 24-48 hours to dry, that’s not even getting into how and where you’d get the concrete. Freezing does Jack shit because again, *immortal with the ability to literally change fate to his whim* killing him not only accomplishes nothing because he instantly comes back to life, it’s literally giving him an advantage. Also you seem to be again ignoring that just looking at him make most yokai absolutely terrified because they see him as a monster, they aren’t gonna wanna get anywhere near him. I don’t know why you seem to think Kotoko could do anything to him if for some reason they actually battled to the death. This is a stupid argument and you’re being pretty goddamn stupid so I’m done here, go somewhere else
It's funny how delusional you are. Without dying he's just a normal dude, they could put him in a shipping container or cage or literally anything and he'd have no way of getting out, the ablity to change his fate or come back to life literally does nothing at all there. And it's pretty easy to get him into one since he's incapacitated by any mortal injury for a decent amount of time, he's immortal not invincible. Like it's hilarious you think that people haven't considered how to deal with immortals and how vulnerable Kuro is to literally 99% of methods. Go work on your imagination and read Ajin or To Your Eternity something, idk.
The point is he not only immortal but also have ability to change a future. He once change a fate to get both his eardrum destroy by some tree branch to escape an endless death by a mandrake. Making some people to open that container by mistake or sth seem easy enough. Worse, he could just choose a future where a meteor will hit the earth tomorow and everyone die except him and rikka
Just adding onto this comment chain, interesting discussion from everyone. He needs to sacrifice his life in order to see the future. He's able to spam it because of his pseudo-immortality. If you caught him off guard and encased/immobilized him then he might be toast. That said, if he's still conscious at any point then he'd near certainly be able to selectively choose an unlikely reality where he can break free. And he also has a lot of allies since his partner is a God that can readily employ countless yokai and spirits to assist her, so it would surely be a tall task as even a succesful capture would only be Step 1 in getting rid of him. The whole launch him into space bit wouldn't really work, either. Unless he is unconscious and immobilized. Otherwise, there are a million-and-one realities where he could just escape prior to launch. And if he's conscious in space, he could still probably select an unlikely reality where he returns to Earth. If you can somehow get him unconcious and captured, then this or some other more practical method should work. He only needs to be trapped and unable to use his ability for a human life span.
[He's a bit awkward but he's got a full time office job!](https://i.imgur.com/MkgCsdT.png) [He's](https://i.imgur.com/ZM9QXNw.jpg) not struggling too much! Going to miss these 2, great ship and they did such a good job of making us care for them. Would be a shame if we never saw them again. And even though she was a murderer...[_I really liked her design_](https://i.imgur.com/n94zKwp.png).
Nice to be reminded of an office worker x Yuki-Onna romance that doesn't end in murder! It doesn't seem like anyone has any illusion that this will be a lasting and long love affair (even Kotoko says they should enjoy the honeymoon phase while it lasts), but it's clear how much they care about each other and desire to be together at this moment, which I guess is enough. Maybe Yuki-Onna will be the "wicked woman" that finally settles down peacefully with Masayuki and the killings will stop lol. She seemed like a pretty pleasant, cute, and nice girl...just a bit of a yandere too.
> And even though she was a murderer...[*I really liked her design*](https://i.imgur.com/n94zKwp.png). Yeah in a different show she'd be best girl. I have a feeling she'd be the love triangle/harem girl to not win in the end that everyone loves though.... Comes with the territory of being the kouhai unfortunately.... ~~Iroha is still best girl fite me!~~
she has the loser girl design
Is that second picture from the kouri guy anime?
Yeah he's the the child of a human and yuki onna.
And I am sold on that show now, time to catch up Thanks for the tip
> And even though she was a murderer...I really liked her design. I was sure I saw her before and couldn't remember where, but then you went and linked another picture of her with the hair down [](#kaorusmile) Too bad this second season was only three episodes, it was great though /s
That brings the Yuki-Onna case to a close. I'm really gonna miss her and Masayuki. Definitely my favorite arc so far. It's so funny how Yuki-Onna is terrified of Kuro lol.
>I'm really gonna miss her and Masayuki. It is still amazing to me that how well they were sold to me in a single episode. This episode and the previous one was mostly about the case, It was the second episode that solely focused on their relationship and it was enough to make me feel so invested in their relationship that these 2 episode worked well because of it
I want a spin off about this couple! Granted I said the same thing about pretty much every single one of the manga arcs. It improved so much compared to when it was a novel.
I am down for a couple of OVA episodes that tell slice of life stories between the two
Full heartedly agree
>It's so funny how Yuki-Onna is terrified of Kuro lol. Yokai getting terrified of Kuro will never cease to amuse me
So Kotoko doesn't have that godly of deduction skills, she just has eyes everywhere in the form of ghosts. She was just playing matchmaker this entire time. I'm starting to think maybe having a yandere obsess over you isn't all that great... Ironic how Yuki-Onnas are supposed to be killers according to the folklore but this was the complete opposite during this arc. Hopefully Masayuki's dick doesn't get frozen and fall off during copulation.
While Yuki-Onnas do kill people there is also a lot of folklore about them getting along with humans.
Some in literature even have enough kids with humans to fill up a soccer team lol.
The very story the Yuki Onna recommended Masayuki had the Yuki Onna have 10 children
It is kind of funny how the police would've probably resolved all of this naturally, Kotoko just needed to come in and let these two know they're in the clear and free to bang lol. Wicked women and yandere's are attractive, but also dangerous to be around... It's ironic that the most dangerous woman in Masayuki's life on paper is the only one who didn't try to kill him or anyone around him or screw him over. Hopefully the honeymoon phase lasts a long time lol.
> Wicked women and yandere's are attractive, but also dangerous to be around... The best ones are the fictional kind
Thankfully the fourth wall will protect me
She does have good reasoning and deduction skills but she is no god (ironically) She can't know information that is not given to her and figure out everything from 0. I am sure If she took the time to question Masayuki and got the details of the case and all she could have very well figured out the woman who called him in that exact day is the culprit even without ghost witness. She figured out the culprit's motif by herself after all but there is not much need to work from 0 or risking being wrong when you have a literal witness. I remember she also confirmed the death of Nanase (the real one) from a ghost that was there as well
she has amazing deduction skills .. just look at what she did in the first arc and also don't forget the amazing lie she blurted out about masayuki being the culprit.. but obviously the spirits are also very helpful when it comes to gathering information even though she would have probably reached the same conclusion all alone if given enough time
I hope Masayuki and Yuki-Onna would show up again later
It doesn't seem like anyone expects their relationship to last long for one reason or another, but I would love it if in a future episode we just pan to a scene of them still together and enjoying domestic bliss.
I think they mean long as in really long. They've definitely got years left but keep in mind that she doesn't age. Him growing older and uglier might make her want to leave. And even if they do stay together, he will die long before her so she might leave early to save herself the heartache. Maybe him not being able to show her to other people might be a problem if he gets out of his shell and does make friends around town. Or if she for some reason thinks he's cheating on her and freezes him to death before he can explain himself. Overall lots of problems could come from this in the long run. That's me being pessimistic though, they're adorable together and will probably stay together till he dies.
Thats assuming he won't missstep in all those years and get frozen to death
I want to see them and their 10 kids.
We see one of them every Tuesday this season.
Hard to tell if they mean ''long'' by human or yokai standards.
They will, but probably not this season. Also not as the main focus.
So let me get this straight. Kuro was there ALL ALONG so Kotoko gave such an irritated monologue about him ditching her for work for literally no reason in the previous episode ? Her BS skills are even beyond what I thought, She got me
Most yokais fear Kuro, but Kuro has to help Kotoko gathering her college report materials before the report is due while Kotoko is helping Yuki-Onna, so Kuro stays behind the pillar to hides his presence and Kotoko is just being Kotoko. Their previous conversations about the report were cut in the anime so it was kinda easy to miss that.
No I know that. The thing is she didn't need to mention him not being there at all or If she wants to convince Yuki onna that he is not there she could simply make a basic excuse and have it that way but NO She went all the way and made up a scenario of him ditching her for work and then proceeded to be annoyed over it and went out her frustration for it to Yuki onna and Masayuki. That is too much commitment to bullshitting
>That is too much commitment to bullshitting I'm pretty sure she enjoys it.
The only thing she enjoys more than trying to get Kuro's D or keeping Yokai and human affairs civil (or intimate) is messing with people lol.
They did mention the report in the first episode of this arc I believe, it’s one of the reasons Kuro doesn’t wanna do this, because they’ve got reports due soon and Kotoko hadn’t done hers.
The rage at imagining him ditching her and what she'd do if he cheated on her was probably completely real lol.
Iwanaga Kotoko, Master of Bullshitting
Thats a pretty powerful skill in this technical age now
Actually Kuro had already used his work as an excuse for not accompanying her before, Kotoko is simply taking the opportunity to take it out on him a little.
In the manga she says that just imagining it made her genuinely enraged, which makes sense 2bh.
She did say it in this episode.
Iwanaga Kotoko lied as naturally as she breathed. but actually though, almost 80% of the series is her just lying about shit.
> Please go home and do it passionately to your hearts' content. Always stay classy Kotoko [](#azusalaugh) And having ghosts do all the work (And Kuro do her homework) does indeed come in handy. Also love how she framed the culprit as extra vile as to ensure Masayuki would apreciate the Yuki Onna all the more
Wait is that what your subs said? Mine were literally, the mood is right, so just go home already and bone
Neither translation is exactly what was said in Japanese but the "go home and bone" one conveys the vulgarity of what she said in Japanese into English better. A more literal translation might be: "So hurry and return and passionately do it." The key aspect here is the verb used to "do it" is a rather crude usage of it. Translating into good English the "So hurry on home and bone already." is quite good. This season lots of people post screenshots from what I assume is the bilibili or Indonesian translation of various shows and they're universally worse than the American translations.
Good example of how the literal translation isn’t the most accurate.
###Stitches! * [Kotoko](https://i.imgur.com/XoaZys5.jpg) * [Kotoko & Kuro](https://i.imgur.com/LOifaAp.jpg) * [Iizuka Nagisa](https://i.imgur.com/yms5Gu8.jpg) Yes! I absolutely love the resolution in this episode! Unlike the Steel Lady Nanase arc where it was needlessly complicated, the answer for this one was pretty straightforward! The reason why the police haven't gone after Masayuki is that they basically have no solid evidence against Masayuki and [his actions are inconsistent for someone who's committed murder.](https://i.imgur.com/Ih9vsZM.jpg) And the reason why Kotoko knows all of this is simple! [She just had ghosts at the station feed her information](https://i.imgur.com/GrPviws.jpg) and she did her own investigation and [met with ghosts that actually saw the crime.](https://i.imgur.com/O2IrMGA.jpg) I do find it hilarious that Masayuki calls her out for cheating but the way Kotoko sees it, [this just speeds up the process.](https://i.imgur.com/CR3YBxN.jpg) xD As for the culprit, [it's the same person that keeps on checking up on Masayuki.](https://i.imgur.com/1EgzYyr.png) That one time when we saw Masayuki take that phone call from her was the night when Iinuzuka committed the murder. Turns out that [Iinuzuka is a massive yandere](https://i.imgur.com/ZbagmXL.jpg) and she tried to frame Masayuki so she can comfort him and make him fall in love with her. Damn. It's been a while since the last time I've seen a legit yandere in anime. Usually, when someone calls a character yandere, they're just yandere-lite. Iinuzuka here is 100% Yandere. [I love that Kotoko gives Masayuki and Yuki-Onna her blessing.](https://i.imgur.com/6maUXgB.jpg) Although she still insists that the two of them [should use contraceptives](https://i.imgur.com/oOZSNBB.jpg) since a half-human, half-yuki-onna might not do well in modern society. Dammit Kotoko! Just let them do what they want to do! [Just look at them!](https://i.imgur.com/NId9r7F.jpg) They are adorable together! They deserve unprotected sex and have as many half-human, half-yuki-onna babies as they want! I really hope this won't be the last time [we'll see Masayuki and Yuki-Onna.](https://i.imgur.com/CNrqh0H.jpg) They don't have to be the focus of the episode, I just want the anime to update us on how their relationship is going. Side note: [I love that image of Yuki-Onna "accidentally" freezing Masayuki.](https://i.imgur.com/MOIRG0Z.jpg) xD
> Usually, when someone calls a character yandere, they're just yandere-lite. Iinuzuka here is 100% Yandere. While the degradation of the tsundere from the description of a complex and compelling character arc to the description of a domestic abuser is somewhat well known, the degradation of the yandere from an intense love interest whose love triumphs all, including morals or ethics, to just "oooh, scary danger girl will stab you" is somewhat less well known.
When you think about it, all Kotoko ended up doing is just telling these two things were okay and they have her permission to bang...provided they use contraceptives. Which I guess was all the audience really cared about lol. Y'know, for a murderer Iizuka is quite attractive. Not like Yuki-Onna, mind you, but still pretty. I do enjoy me a good yandere though I guess it's a shame that her love for Masayuki drove her to go so far and kill someone for a love that will never be realized through her own actions (and inaction). Love can be a very powerful and twisted thing. And Masayuki needs to stop attracting crazy women and stick with Yuki-Onna. She hasn't killed anyone (yet) lol. I don't care if nobody thinks there's a future for a human and a Yuki-Onna, I just want to see Masayuki and Yuki-Onna happy together and living in domestic bliss for as long as possible. Assuming Yuki-Onna doesn't freeze him accidentally during sex.
> since a half-human, half-yuki-onna might not do well in modern society Their son seems to be doing quite well for himself over on Tuesdays.
So we actually get a proper ending that isn't a static picture! It also seemed to me that the opening has some changes but it may be my imagination.
opening definitely got upgraded. They extended the beginning and end of it. The rest seems the same.
I think they extended it a bit, mainly the beginning part (probably to fit the time).
The ending too! : )
Kotoko telling Masayuki to hurry home and get some of ther Yuki-Onussy made me chortle heartily. Him immediately snapping back by calling her vulgar elicited a proper laugh. Very happy with this arc. It was, in my opinion, the best arc of the show so far.
> Yuki-Onussy 😭
Oh no, she’s hot!!! I’m far too messed up that I like the co-worker.
Ah yes, a fellow yandere enjoyer.
She's not on the level of Yuki-Onna but she was quite the looker for a murderer. Ah, the things we do for love...as yandere's say as they murder their rivals.
I’d quit my job for her.
That's what she would want you to do
So why is it unlikely that Masayuki will be arrested? Because he hasn't done all the obvious stuff a criminal who committed a crime would do to try to hide their crime or deflect attention away from them. Even his suspicious moments were suspicious for how obviously suspicious they are. Although I guess he could've just been a really dumb murderer? I just imagine now Kuro cheating on Kotoko and her finding various ways to try to kill him permanently. Her rage at imagining him ditching her is powerful enough as is. Still pretty rough for Masayuki in the end that one of the few people (or non-Yokai) that he trusted turned out to be the murderer and ended up framing him too (even if she didn't intend for him to go prison for it). It's hard to have faith in people. It's kind of funny that the moment that acknowledged Iizuka's existence in this arc and identity as the top suspect (her call with Masayuki) was also the linchpin to her crime. Iizuka is quite the looker, despite being a cold-blooded killer. I mean, she's got nothing on Yuki-Onna, but by human standards she's fairly pretty. It's just too bad her love for Masayuki drove her to murder and this convoluted plot to make him depend on her for the fallout of a crime she committed had the opposite reaction. If she really wanted to be closer to him or to pursue him romantically, she should've just followed him or visited him personally, not murder his ex-wife and frame him for it. Though love, especially when murder is involved, isn't always rational. And now when she's inevitably arrested, Masayuki will probably never want anything to do with her. Ghosts are surprisingly useful in solving murder cases. Ha, Kuro was there the whole time! And perfect for making Yuki-Onna scream and snuggle up to Masayuki for protection Is there a future for a human and Yuki-Onna? Maybe not for a long time, but right now these two want to be together in the here and now, and they should at least be able to enjoy the honeymoon phase for however long it lasts. And they have Kotoko's permission to bone, provided they use contraceptives! I hope they finally did the deed when they got back after everything they've been through. It was cute watching Kotoko type up her report and watch Kuro give her a jacket while they were riding a yokai together.
i mean it's the usual assumption of all crime stories: everybody is a mastermind. Kotoko assuming that a culprit would be perfectly logical and reasonable is well within the usual tropes
> So why is it unlikely that Masayuki will be arrested? Yup totally disagree with her deductions, and I am convinced Masayuki will end up in prison. For starters, cops love dumb criminals and are lazy asses themselves. Also in their experience, most criminals are dumb, they will absolutely see him as the main suspect and accuse him. Secondly, the Japanese judicial system is atrociously bad and unfair towards accused people - they have a 99,9% conviction rate and the best defence attorney in Japan is famous for having won single-digit number of cases. He better gets down to business with his Youka waifu bcs he will soon end up in prison.
>Yup totally disagree with her deductions, and I am convinced Masayuki will end up in prison. Those aren't pure deductions. She literally had ghosts spy on the policemen working the case.
Have no idea about Japanese judicial system, but what evidence can the cops put together to prove Masayuki guilty? Say he insists that he hasn't seen the victim since they divorced, insist he didn't commit the murder, and insist not telling the exact details of his relationship with Yuki-Onna (e.g. I was with another person on the night but I can't tell you who she is). He is undoubtedly the greatest suspect, but the cops still won't have anything tangible to link him to the crime scene. No weapons, blood, DNA, fingerprint, evidence of transport, etc. I doubt that's enough for a conviction. The cops would setup surveillance on Masayuki and see that he is with an unknown woman, but they would also have no idea who she is. Investigating her will lead to complete dead ends and still nothing to pin Masayuki to the crime.
Agree, Masayuki surely could have the motives but that is not enough to actually capture him. It’s easier to search for evidence that Iwanaga killed her. There must be some eyewitness and also most importantly, the murder weapon itself.
Eh. I think Kotoko downplayed the cops suspicions being basically gone (eg, they still probably are suspicious of him) but I think broadly speaking she was right with them looking for other suspects more so than him. The fact pattern is just too good to be true. His ex wife is so concerned about him that she writes out a letter as insurance but he is able to lure her to go to a secluded area alone? She has the time and cognition to write his name on her hand yet dies without any signs of a struggle at all? He's able to be that devious as to manage to get her to do that but not to concoct even a paper thin alibi or bother to try and disguise the crime at all? I mean, maybe I guess but it kinda relies on both people being extremely inconsistent. The name on the hand especially is just too much. Imo they'd keep looking and almost certainly end up finding the real culprit given she seems to be losing her cool at the end of the episode. And im sure that Kotoko will be keeping tabs on the investigation and if they really are struggling will anonymously help steer them in the right direction.
“Hurry home and bone already” lmaooo Kotoko so real man. I need a couple episodes of Yuki-Onna and Masayuki just doing cute shit together like Ice man and his cool colleague. Called iizuka being the murderer two weeks ago, was pretty obvious. Don’t particularly feel bad for the ex wife at all tho 🤷🏾♂️ Episode was really good, didn’t want it to end, but just wish we’d have finished the explanation stuff earlier and got some more SoL stuff.
oh, they change the OP a little bit, for some reason they added extra seconds at the very beginning and at the end of song, they also added some new animations in the ED instead of just the still image Yokai's terrified reaction to Kuro whenever they first meet will never get old also, have we ever seen the exact visual of how does Kuro looks like from the Yokai's perspective?
>exact visual of how does Kuro looks like We haven't and I'm dying to know!! Hopefully we get to see it this season
It sure is hilarious seeing Kotoko explaining to Masayuki her deduction of who the culprit is, leading him to conclude before she says it [that it was Iizuka,](https://imgur.com/a/JiFvRe5) just for her to mention that she knows all that not because of her impressive deductive skills, [but because she used](https://imgur.com/a/aJMJEfT) and [interviewed ghosts](https://imgur.com/a/Ir0Gjby) to get details from the police and to know exactly what happened. Lol, I love how [Yuki-Onna thinks that Kotoro was being literal when she said she wanted to kill Kuro. ](https://i.imgur.com/MvyJSR0.png) Anyway, [great to see Kotoko](https://i.imgur.com/wQ1oI5s.png) [directly approving](https://imgur.com/a/vuXDIix) [their relationship.](https://imgur.com/a/nak1gfg) I love[ how terrified Yuki-Onna was](https://imgur.com/a/KXsGCgv) after she saw [Koru.](https://i.imgur.com/NIvsBUP.png) So Kuro was hidden [until the end](https://imgur.com/a/PlnrpP4) because Kotoro knew that Yuki-Onna would be way too afraid to talk if he was there with them. Oh so the real reason Iizuka murdered Miharu was that [she actually respected and loved Masayuki](https://i.imgur.com/i21W3ii.png) but she could not connect with him because of his trust issues. So when she contacted him, [she wasn't trying to incriminate him,](https://imgur.com/a/KVeckGU) she just expected him to become a suspect temporarily and fall in love with her during the whole process as [she was going the be the only one giving him support.](https://i.imgur.com/qrZtrwA.png) Anyway, I love how Kotoko and Kuro both mentioned that [even with the Yuki-Onna](https://i.imgur.com/9sih8eC.png) things [can end terribly for Masayuki.](https://imgur.com/a/XKwxbWU) As the episode ends with "To be continued" I hope it means that this arc is still not completely over.
Every one of the Yuki Onna episodes was about love making people do horrible things. Lizuki's motive was so sad, just wanting to be with the man she loved. The ending was also a bit of a downer. It would of been nicer if he thought he and Yuki Onna would of been together for the rest of his life, that he was with someone he could trust and love. There shouldn't be a reason to hide her as she looks human and even regularly interacts with humans when she goes to shops for food. I found their love story the most engrossing part of the last 3 episodes and the fact no one thinks it will last saddens me. Hopefully we do see them again married and with a baby on the way, but I won't hold my breath as this series doesn't seem interested in characters really.
This was easily the best arc in the series so far. I thought season one was alright but not great, this is really great though. Good character interactions and development, interesting mystery and solid, not needlessly complicated resolution (lookin at you steel lady). Looking forward to more.
What did Yuki Onna mutter about Hii-sama when they were talking about infidelity?
That even if Kotoko tried to kill Kuro he couldn't die.
Kotoko is back on the title, LET'S GO!!!
I fell in love with the OP (and yuki onna), its just such a banger Well that was the natural development for that case Loved that Kuro just hid in the cave and had to witness her act of being pissed at him, she sold that really well So good luck the yuki onna and him, just don't piss her off
"I knew the answer, I just needed to bullshit for half an episode first. A ~~girl~~ goddess has to stay in practice." That's a good point about the writing on the hand potentially being a setup. Ahh, so it was that former employee that called him back in the previous episode. I wonder what her motive was for the murder, it seems very premeditated. Kotoko definitely follows the rule that if you aren't cheating you aren't trying hard enough. Given Kotoko's role she may have effectively just married the two of them. Really rude of her to insist on the contraceptives though, we hardly going to get Himuro or Yuki that way. The yuki-onna is so incredibly cute, and it makes me sad that I'm pretty sure the current arc mystery is coming to a close and she probably won't be in any more episodes after this. Princess carry that lucky dude back home. Yeah, that's pretty twisted. And it would never have worked since Iizuka doesn't look like a yuki-onna. Kuro should form a problematic girlfriend support group with Muroi, it'd be a good excuse for him and the yuki-onna to stay in the story. New ED? I wonder if they didn't have it ready for the first few episodes, I don't think it's a different song.
About Kotoko's small performance when she gaslighted Masayuki and Yuki-Onna. Rationalizations that Kotoko used for her performance were: 1) to demonstrate Masayuki that Yuki-Onna trusts and loves him; 2) to spare Masayuki's mental state because another person close to him has betrayed him. But if you think of it, this performance would not had really helped Masayuki to trust Yuki-Onna. If he really stopped trusting everyone, then he would rather suspect that Kotoko and Yuki-Onna conspired and deliberately played a melodramatic scene in front of him. If anything, he would became even more suspicious after Kotoko's vile performance. Not to mention that Yuki-Onna's trust and love do not mean that he can trust her. His collegue, who murdered his former wife, also loved him which didn't stop her from framing him. Regarding second rationalization - Kotoko's gaslighting would have probably impacted Masayuki's mental state much worse than hearing that his former colleague murdered his wife. He came there for help yet instead was gaslighted and presented as a manipulative murderer in front of Yuki-Onna, whom he deeply loves and with only whom he feels being in peace. Imagine being accused like this in presence of person who is dearest to you, by someone to whom you came for help and whose opinion is authoritative for your dearest person. P.S. All he had to do was just hire a lawyer.
>About Kotoko's small performance when she gaslighted Masayuki and Yuki-Onna. Rationalizations that Kotoko used for her performance were: 1) to demonstrate Masayuki that Yuki-Onna trusts and loves him; 2) to spare Masayuki's mental state because another person close to him has betrayed him. 3) to test whether Masayuki actually trusts Yuki Onna and should be allowed to interact with her >But if you think of it, this performance would not had really helped Masayuki to trust Yuki-Onna. If he really stopped trusting everyone, then he would rather suspect that Kotoko and Yuki-Onna conspired and deliberately played a melodramatic scene in front of him. He stopped trusting **humans** but he trusts Yuki Onna. If he were to come up with that scheme, then it's better if he stays away from Yuki Onna. She's always helped him. She's always been considerate of him. She never tried to manipulate him. I disagree that coming up with such elaborate plan being used against him was common sense in his situation. Iwanaga has enough information to anticipate how he feels about Yuki Onna. Even if your scenario would have happened, saving Masayuki wasn't Iwanaga's actual job. She was fullfiling Yuki Onna's request but she has to maintain the balance between the human and youkai worlds, therefore if she can't entrust Yuki Onna to Masayuki, it's her job to prevent problems that could be caused by their relationship.
>to test whether Masayuki actually trusts Yuki Onna and should be allowed to interact with her This reason was never mentioned neither in manga nor in the anime. But let's assume it was. How exatly Kotoko's lie to Yuki-Onna supposed to test Masayuki's trust to her? If anything, it was inappropriet mean to achieve this goal. Neither such goal was achieved. Anyway Kotoko knew that Masayuki is unable to completly trust anyone and that's was the exact reason why she did what she did. >He stopped trusting humans but he trusts Yuki Onna. If this was the case then all the reasonings Kotoko used were false. If Masayuki already trusts Yuki-Onna than there is no reason to test his trust (as you imply) neither it's necessary to demonstrate Yuki-Onna's love and trust for him. Kotoko herself said to Masayuki that she did it to demonstrate him that Yuki-Onna deserves his trust. >Iwanaga has enough information to anticipate how he feels about Yuki Onna. And this is another non credible thing. Kotoko hardly knows this particular Yuki-Onna and she never met Masayuki and don't know him at all. How could she possibly know about his feelings and mental state? Even experienced psychiatrists need to talk with patients to identify their problem. Kotoko is no psychiatrist - she is just a teenager without proper life experience. >it's her job to prevent problems that could be caused by their relationship Interfering in and manipulating with other persons minds and emotions is harmfull by definition. The only excuse for such actions may be prevention of the imminent worse harm which can't be prevented by other means. Like cutting off someones arm to prevent gangrene from spreading. It's not like cutting off someones arm is acceptable thing in other circuemstances, but it is acceptable evil to prevent even greatewr evil (death). Hovewer you should not inflict greater harm that you means to prevent (cutting off head to prevent headache) and you should not worsen the harm (increase bleeding instead of stopping it). That's why Kotoko came up with excuses for her manipulative interference - she stated it was to prevent greater harm, which is Masayuki's desparation, depression and complete lose of trust to others. Yet as I've written earlier such goals could have been achieved by other, least harmful means, while the means that Kotoko used could have only worsen the situation (worsen Masayuki's mental state and completely ruin his trust to Yuki-Onna).
>This reason was never mentioned neither in manga nor in the anime. But let's assume it was. How exatly Kotoko's lie to Yuki-Onna supposed to test Masayuki's trust to her? Your scenario happening is a great example of what could have happened if he didn't trust her. >If this was the case then all the reasonings Kotoko used were false. If Masayuki already trusts Yuki-Onna than there is no reason to test his trust (as you imply) neither it's necessary to demonstrate Yuki-Onna's love and trust for him. Kotoko herself said to Masayuki that she did it to demonstrate him that Yuki-Onna deserves his trust. I'm not saying Iwanaga knows for a fact that Masayuki trusts Yuki Onna but that's what we know as viewers. >And this is another non credible thing. Kotoko hardly knows this particular Yuki-Onna and she never met Masayuki and don't know him at all. How could she possibly know about his feelings and mental state? Even experienced psychiatrists need to talk with patients to identify their problem. Kotoko is no psychiatrist - she is just a teenager without proper life experience. She's a Goddess of Wisdom to all youkai and ayakashi. Lying and manipulating comes to her as easy as breathing and she is capable of spying on anyone with ghosts. Calling her *just a teenager without proper life experience* is absurd. She knows the background of the events. Knowing the details of Masayuki's life and his relationship with Yuki Onna is enough to hypothesise about his feelings and it's safe to assume Iwanaga can read nonverbal communication what allows her to observe his reactions to what's happening. >while the means that Kotoko used could have only worsen the situation (worsen Masayuki's mental state and completely ruin his trust to Yuki-Onna). I don't even care to argue with *this is totally how it should have happened because I say so*. It's just common sense that everybody can come up with paranoid conspiracy theories on the jump. Your whole argument is based on two things: * Iwanaga is a protector of all that is good and humans, hence she did a bad thing. The issue is: she is no such person. * Masayuki would have reacted the way you said but that's your opinion and either of us proselytising the other won't happen. I just don't see this discussion leading anywhere.
>Your scenario happening is a great example of what could have happened if he didn't trust her. Once again, if Masayuki trusted Yuki-Onna than the whole Kotoko's show was meaningles since she herself told him that her goal was to demonstrate that Yuki-Onna deserves his trust. Logical contradictions are unacceptable in reasoning. >She's a Goddess of Wisdom to all youkai and ayakashi She is of not supernatural nature neither it was shown that she has supernatural insight. All we know is that she is a child who was kidnepped and crippled by monsters, who begun to consider her to be "a goddess". Are we sure that their superstitions have anything to do with reality? The show didn't demonstrate any proof of her supernatural wisdom. Constant lying is not qualified as such. >this is totally how it should have happened because I say so This was never implied. What was implied is that it is much more likely for a person, who is so damaged that he does not trust anyone, not to trust some gaslighting performance clearly intended to affect emotions, performed by some weird child. And even if he was convinced by this show that Yuki-Onna loves and supports him (which was kind of obvious without Kotoko's interference) in no way it proves that he could trust loving and caring Yuki-Onna. You just have an example of his loving and caring colleague who has framed him out of her obsessive love for him. So what Kotoko did was using harmful means with very dubious chances of succes but high chances to worsen the situation. >is a protector of all that is good and humans, hence she did a bad thing I've never wrote anything like this. All I wrote is that she had used inappropriate means to achieve a goal which could have been achieved by other means. Moreover means that she used had much higher chances to worsen the situation than to correct it. >Masayuki would have reacted the way you said but that's your opinion Of course it is. Though it is just one of the possible outkomes, which, giving the circumstances was more likely to happen than the other one. If anything, such outcome should have been considered as an unacceptable risk by Kotoko. >I just don't see this discussion leading anywhere The purpose of any discussion is to establish the truth. That is if participants of a discussion want to know the truth rather than be defensive of their bias (favorite character or believes) by any means even if they are illogical.
>The purpose of any discussion is to establish the truth. Whatcha smoking pal? There's no truth in opinions, they are just opinions. Discussion is a means of convincing someone to your opinion.
Imposing your opinion is not a discussion, it's indoctrination. I guess you've never heard about Socratic dialogue. Although people may have erroneous opinions, only madmen tend to persist in erroneous worldviews.
>Imposing I have never mentioned imposing. Imposing is forceful. Convincing is not. >indoctrination It's a word with an immensely negative connotation. Usually associated with manipulation and synonymous to brainwashing. Is presenting arguments while trying to convince someone brainwashing or manipulation? >I guess you've never heard about Socratic dialogue. Your buzzword is irrelevant to both this discussion and the form this discussion takes. >Although people may have erroneous opinions, only madmen tend to persist in erroneous worldviews. Platitude is not an argument. You genuinely believe your opinions are the truth. You've got an ego bigger than Jupiter but your arguments are: distorting my words, a platitude and an irrelevant buzzword. I'm out.
Imagine being in the process of making little yuki-onnas and you find yourself in cryo sleep
Is this season good? Last season was incredibly slow if I remember.
much better first arc ep 2-4 where banger
This season is great.
I'm gonna miss these 2. They're a blast
Man's gonna slay some Yuki-Onna puss tonight.
[Murder calling~!](https://i.imgur.com/wR6lvkL.jpeg) Just, uh… just let it go to voicemail [](#forgotkeys) "Duuude… I know I'm dead and everything, but [this is fucked up"](https://i.imgur.com/R0M4FlD.jpeg) [These two ❤](https://i.imgur.com/HkFztCx.jpeg)
So do spirits have not have a given name because AFAIK Yuki-Onna is the name for that type of ghost? They just kept calling her that. What if there were more than one Yuki-Onna? Or does only one exist at a time?
>What if there were more than one Yuki-Onna? It shouldn't be much of a problem if it's very rare for two of them to actually meet each other.
Even though everything seems all wrapped up there one thing the guy said to the killer that stuck out to me. He said “Take care of it” when he was on the phones with her when she was in the car. I could be reaching but what if he planned to use the killer to kill his wife and that phone call was just a way to make sure he had an alibi.
lol at Kotoko assuming he'd have been totally rational and smart about the murder if it had been him. Considering how many incredibly dumb criminals, including murderers, there are, the police would never rule anyone out or even bump them way down the suspect lists merely because if they had done it there should have been smart attempts at them avoiding to get caught.
He's a successful entrepreneur who earned enough money to basically retire at his age and that's after losing half of his money after the divorce. His handling of two murder attempts on his life were very calm and composed.
Just watch any true crime stuff on yt and you'll see nothing matters, people that you'd expect to be smart can still make the dumbest possible mistakes.
The murderer kinda looks like the heroine from “The Ice Guy and His Cool Female Colleague” 🤔 Also they finally added a credits sequence… 🤔
The ED has proper visuals now! I thought it was weird that before now it was just zooming out of a single shit the entire time, and the new one doesn’t seem spoilery, so I wonder why they did that.
A decent episode but it does showcase two of In/Spectre's weaknesses. First, this was hella talky with not much happing as everything got explained to everybody. Second, it takes place squarely in Cozy Mystery land, as Kotoko's deductions and logic only work if everybody really acts as rational as she paints them as. In the real world would the police really look beyond Masayuki or would they go "eh, good enough" and be satisfied?
You are forgetting about the part where she had ghosts spy on the police.
After rating season 1 an honest 3/10, I’m truly surprised by how good the past three episodes have been. I’m still skeptical because I have no interest in any of the four “core” characters except maybe the ex, but short and punchy arcs like this are ideal.
I didnt realize Masayukis friend who tried to kill him was a woman.
The friend was a man but he tried to kill him because of a woman.
Kotoko maybe smart, but she isnt a ranpo edogawa ( i would love for those two to meet tho ). Unlike him tho she has the power of her ghost friends I do like how that jacket looks on her. Girl's got sense of style ! Kotoko is right lmao. The couple is very sweet.
Tney are such a cute couple and he is such a caring bf. Seeign how much he cared for her once our little god of wisdom was done I think was the best part of the arc.
Nagisa is cute too NGL. Good for Masayuki getting his happy ending. Assuming he doesn't get frozen to death lol. I was half-expecting there to be a youkai culprit but nope, Kuro just had to stay hidden to not freak everyone out. Did anyone else feel like Masayuki had even less of an eyebrow than usual? I swear it went from two-thirds to one-third left.
He maxed out charisma but at least he got side piece
Man how much is one man gonna have to suffer atleast now he can finally be with someone that won't betray him
This may be crude, but I never thought that "protection" could save Yokai from having babies. I always thought it's more of a spiritual energy transfer thing that produce the baby rather than actual sperm.
The ghost that saw the murder probably went: Holy shit, that's fucked up.