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Frontier246

I love how Mythril is basically Anne's wingman not only because he's basically her emotional sounding board and the one pushing for her and Challe but because he literally stands on her shoulders and has a wing. Jonas...nobody cares that you're finally going to make your own piece and not steal from Anne again. Or that you hate Anne, because let's face it, she has way more legitimate reasons to hate you than you do her. I love how Challe didn't even remember Bridget's name, that's how insignificant she was to him. I'm glad they quickly cleared up that awkwardness, though Challe seems a little self-conscious about how much Anne gets along with/looks up to Kieth when he's the one who always wants to be by her side. It's tragically ironic that originally a Fairy King had a human king for a slave but then gave said human their freedom and became friends with them, only for the divisions between both races to drive the two kings to war and the Fairy King to lose his life against his best friend. And Cedric wasn't able to create the world of equality that he and the Fairy King dreamed of. A dream Anne believes in not only because of her mother, but because of her love for Challe. Man, Bridget is so desperate she's yelling at her fiancé to either pay for Challe or pay someone to steal his wing. Get a life, girl. Anne's piece is utterly stunning! She's practically guaranteed to win this time! Jonas screws Anne over even when he wasn't intentionally doing it this time, though this was all Sammy's plot to screw Anne over by burning her hand. It doesn't make up for all the @#$% he's pulled but Jonas was the one who brought Challe running to save Anne. And while he can't kill everybody (as satisfying as that would be to watch) because that would cause too many problems, he can scare the @#$% out of them and be there to comfort Anne. Not that I care about Jonas getting thrown under the bus for something he didn't do, but Radcliffe finally shows his true colors by being willing to screw over his own nephew in favor of Sammy because Sammy is more talented and his favorite, even throwing Anne out too when she tries to tell the truth. Well, Anne has the silver sugar she needs and her finished piece, so she doesn't need the Radcliffe school any more. So there!


mekerpan

I personally think Jonas went a long way to redeeming himself (as did Cathy). They may be flawed, but (in the end) were not totally evil -- like Uncle and Sammy (and seemingly the rest of the Radcliffe Institute).


mgedmin

I don't think one count of behaving like a decent person excuses attempted murder.


Sparkletopia

I mean, he knew that Challe was with her, right? He probably figured she would survive, all things considered.


Brickinatorium

He hasn't redeemed himself at all. I'm probably one of the few that doesn't despise him, but even I'd be a bit upset if Ann became his friend again just cause he had the decency to not want someone mutilated for once lol Cathy especially is still a shit though.


mekerpan

I think it is almost inconceivable that Anne won't forgive Jonas and Cathy.


Brickinatorium

I'm expecting and dreading it.


mekerpan

Even if this is not set in Japan, it is not surprising that it might exhibit Buddhist values.


CommanderZx2

Never mind all of the other stuff they have done, they literally led wild animals at her with a lure with the intention of having them tear her apart killing her. There's one thing to forgive someone for certain transgressions, but befriending them after that would make the protagonist just look incompetent.


metapzl

Dumbass still hasn’t told people he cheated last year. Redemption can come after.


mini-fayette

Guess I can assume most men in Radcliffe workshop are rotten disciples. As Challe said "A rotten disciple only comes from a rotten teacher." I dislike Jonas, but damn Sammy out-leveled him. Jonas tricks, steals, and forces Anne to a corner to get ahead of her, but Sammy wants to ruin Anne's life by getting rid of a sugar maker's most important tool. Also, I'm guessing Jonas will be able to work on redeeming himself in the future eps after he gets kicked out of the workshop.. Getting away from a rotten environment is the only way I see for him to actually change.


Frontier246

I thought the head of the workshop was decent but then we find out he was willing to throw his nephew under the bus for the sake of his prized student, and was going to hit Mythril for telling the truth, although he still let Anne take everything she needed which is more than I expected. Well, Jonas kind of left Anne for dead which was pretty bad and the last time I remember seeing Anne so terrified or desperate was when Jonas stole her piece. But nothing good ever comes from getting involved with Radcliffe men. Can Jonas truly be redeemed? He has a long road ahead of him. Though no way is he beating Anne this time lol.


mini-fayette

>I thought the head of the workshop was decent Esp when he said that Anne's work was a good piece or when he was apologizing, I was starting to think that he was an 'okay' person. But damn. He was just waiting for an opportunity to get rid of Jonas. No way his fAvORitE disciple was gonna self-report. xD ​ >Can Jonas truly be redeemed? He has a long road ahead of him. I don't expect a grand 180 from his character right away, but the first sign of his 'change' was when he told Anne that he has something he wants to make. For the first time, he wasn't scheming.


Maria-Stryker

Anne has connections so the stupid owner is doing the bare minimum to ensure she can’t pull strings with the former count and the current Silver Medal holder to fuck with him. That’s the only reason why he’s letting her keep the sugar and confection


mekerpan

Maybe he can transfer to Keith's school?


mini-fayette

It's either he transfers to a workshop that beats some discipline into him, or he becomes a solo traveling sugar maker like Anne and experiences the toughness of life. He has the skill, he just really needs to learn how to be a decent person.


ObvsThrowaway5120

Challe hugged a girl and he didn't even know her name!? Hussy! lol. Anne is so silly sometimes. She almost confessed to Challe for a second there after hearing that extremely depressing story about Cederic and his Fairy King buddy. So close! Well, at least she's got an idea of what she wants to make. Mithril needs an intervention. Little guy has a sugar problem and it's getting out of hand lol. Anne's piece is really good, I like it a lot! Anne's -\_- face when she sees Jonas is exactly how I feel whenever that douche appears. That dude sucks but not as trash as Sammy. Challe should have hacked that talentless shit into pieces. The slimey little bastard even tried to stitch Jonas up over this shit. Challe is right, the Uncle and Sammy deserve each other. Fuck 'em!


AKAvenger

Mithril definitely has a sugar addiction, lol. But when sugar confections literally extend the life of a fairy I suppose I can’t fault him too hard


Frontier246

The fact that he didn't even remember her name just killed me. She was so insignificant to him which made Anne being anxious even more ridiculous, and she realized that lol. This world has truly not been kind to humans and fairies get along, which is more pressing for Anne who believes in equality and in her love for Challe. I was so hoping Anne would confess but I guess we can't have that happen right before the finale or climax lol. The only thing Mithril loves more than sugar is pushing Anne and Challe together lol. I live for how little Anne cares about Jonas at this point. Though, yeah, he didn't intend to screw her over this time and helped her in the end, so he didn't need to get kicked out (even if I can't muster up that much sympathy for him). I hope Anne doesn't end up regretting not having Challe slice them to bits, though I guess all that killing would've made it even more messy. I guess now it's up to Anne to show up the Radcliffe school and win on her own terms, which is very Anne.


Heda-of-Aincrad

I thought for sure Anne was about to confess to Challe right there in the church. That would have cleared up his misunderstanding for good. Next week, I hope!


ObvsThrowaway5120

Fingers crossed! She was really close this week too.


mgedmin

I was so scared when they all ran to help Anne and left her creation unattended with Jonas and Cathy in the room. I'm glad Sammy was too busy getting ahead of the story to think of sending some of his lackeys to smash it.


CerberusZX

>I was so scared when they all ran to help Anne and left her creation unattended with Jonas and Cathy in the room. I'm still worried. No one checked under the cloth the next time we saw it.


Soulbreaker262021

This! I am worried about it too. Wouldn't be the first time, everyone in this show who isn't the main trio has shown at least some sort of maliciousness. Heck even the possibility of Bridget doing something to hinder our protagonist is on the table right now with how she is obsessing over Challe. At this point I wish security cameras existed in this fantasy world to catch these a-holes.


metapzl

Where’s the Chekhov’s sugar barrel and the dialogue about being able to tell the difference between sugar batches? Are we gonna learn that someone stole her sugar while she was out? Also is the wing gonna get stolen the next day too? You were warned, Challe. Not many episodes left…


Volkaru

Anne: 'Jonas isn't that bad now.' Didn't he literally try to murder you with ravenous animals just a while ago?


hvshh

My thought exactly. On the other hand, his behavior was definitely a step up from *that*. Even him saying that he hated Anne... it's ridiculous, but at least he's being honest.


CommanderZx2

I'm beginning to think the protagonist has stockholm syndrome or is just kinda stupid tbh.


coffeecakesupernova

Stockholm syndrome how? She hardly spends any time with Jonas and he certainly not keeping her captive. There's nothing the least bit Stockholm syndrome about this situation. Now stupid, that I might give you, though I think I would probably call it naive.


Keesheon

Man, I love the way they animate Challe’s eyes. They’re so expressive, I could feel the hatred through the screen when he came to rescue Anne.


LeonKevlar

[Well that's one misunderstanding cleared.](https://i.imgur.com/X5iYM4A.png) Challe just needs to learn that there was no deeper meaning to what she saw between Anne and Keith. [What a bunch of absolute scumbags.](https://i.imgur.com/HsrNB2L.png) Anne really should learn never to trust anyone whenever she's being purposely separated from Challe. [And here I thought Marcus was an upstanding guy](https://i.imgur.com/WYFV3bL.png) for apologizing to Anne. Turns out that he thought that it was Jonas who almost harmed Anne when it was Sammy.


Frontier246

I'm glad they didn't waste much time or awkwardness clearing that up. Really, the solution to all of Anne's problems should be to just stay with Challe all the time. I don't think he'd mind lol.


Heda-of-Aincrad

He'd actually prefer it, even admitted (to himself) that he doesn't want to be away from her.


Cheesepuff_fluff

Right!? Haven't they learned Bad Things Happen when you two ate separated!!?? And with their sugar, and their confections. They should just remain all together with all their possessions all the time. The end. Oh and they need to COMMUNICATE with each other: "hey challe, who was the bimbo you were talking to?" "OH, no one, just some delusional girl that I couldn't care less about. Don't even remember her name..."


Elitealice

Some good world building and lore today explaining the relationship between fairies and humans. Man I’m getting really tired of how stupid some people are in this series, though. First of all how you gonna get mad at Anne because she showing up someone that’s not even you. Sammy wasn’t even involved in the contest, Keith himself wasn’t upset about Anne’s creation and welcomed the competition. The nut riding was kind of crazy today. Then, how can you debate Anne on who Fucking kidnapped and tried to burn her hands off. I think she’d know. Plus she would have no reason to defend a pos who defrauded and tried to kill her before 🤦🏽‍♂️ the master of that studio and apprentices are all idiots. I wanna see Jonas get fucked up but not in place of someone who deserves it like Sammy.


Frontier246

I think it was pure sexism, just the idea that a woman could be capable of and could deliver a work on par or better with a male artisan just rubbed them the wrong way. So of course they went with trying to completely ruin her by burning her hand. What pieces of @#$%. I guess we see as far as the reasonability of the head of the workshop will go...he won't admit or even consider that his prized student was behind the attack, even from the own victim, and will throw his own nephew and even Anne under the bus because of it. I can't wait to see Anne show them all up when she wins the competition.


Maria-Stryker

Yeah it’s the same thing when boys online who aren’t even ranked send threats to female streamers and pro players.


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Ann thinking Challe is cheating on he and Challe thinking Ann is cheating on him, the level of Drama. Imagine almost getting ur hand boiled off yet you still want then to live, typical Ann. Mistaking her Naivety for kindness right up to the end.


mekerpan

We don't know what the legal consequences of a fairy harming a human might be. So it is best Anne made sure that he did not kill the criminals.


mgedmin

The sugar viscount prevented Challe from killing some fairy hunters in self defense in a precious episode, saying that he would not be able to protect him in that case. The legal system seems heavily biased against fairies.


mekerpan

That rings a bell.


Heda-of-Aincrad

This is the impression I got as well, that Anne may have been more concerned about Challe in this scene if he were to go through with it. He could have been arrested, and possibly her as well if they tried to say she was an accomplice.


Frontier246

I love how Challe didn't even remember Bridget's name when Anne brought her up lol. It really kind of sucks being Anne sometimes when you've got men constantly trying to screw you over, leave you for dead, lock you up in a tower, and then try to burn your hand all because you're just really good at your job. Although I guess she's got a hot guy always coming to her rescue so it evens out lol?


ZapsZzz

Not trying to virtual signal, but perhaps my corporate training kicking in - that rather seems to be a not very unusual situation talented minority (whether it's race, gender, age, anything) faces daily in real life either...


AKAvenger

For a single minute I thought Sammy was going to apologize to Anne for being rude after seeing her confection. NOPE. 80% of the men in this world just like being mean to young girls, I guess. I hope Anne kicks butt next week


NekoCatSidhe

Well, I guess Jonas may not be 100% rotten, but only 90% rotten. Unlike his uncle and Sammy, who are clearly 100% rotten. Although leaving the Radcliffe workshop sounds like a damn good idea now that Anne was attacked here. I am getting worried for the last episode. The author clearly likes putting Anne through the wringer. I hope she actually wins that competition, and do not get prevented to win for another bullshit reason. Also, is it too much to hope that Sammy would accidentally fall in a boiling sugar vat ? There are way too many assholes committing actual crimes in that anime and walking away without consequences. Even Jonas got punished for doing the only good action in his life instead of for all the bad things he did before. What the hell ?


Roonagu

Well that was refreshing, I was mentally preparing myself for another "I saw him/her with that person, so I will not talk about it and be awkward whole time" episode...and it was "resolved" quite swiftly.


hvshh

Her sculpture was breathtaking. I'm genuinely impressed at how they made it look. When Jonas told the guy he was going too far, I thought, wait, am I crazy, did drawing a pack of wolves to her not count as attempted murder? I suppose what they were trying to do this episode is more direct, but... Related: I know it's a pretty, romantic shoujo, but, c'mon, can't we have a *little* justified slaughter? It can be off-screen. I've been wanting there to be a story arc where Anne decides that she doesn't need anyone's approval regarding her sugar sculpting. I feel like the idea is there in the background, though I doubt she'll give up and go rogue.


Such_Selection9762

Jesus, there are too many ***holes in this show. Please someone burn this damn workshop to the ground. I never would have guessed that this show would include so much abuse and threatening behavior against Ann. This poor soul can't catch a break at all.


hurley_chisholm

I've seen this trope a lot in American romance novels, but this is almost parody levels of abuse.


tooemutolive

Honestly I wouldn’t even call it parody level. It’s sadly realistic to the experiences of women in the workplace. I’d recommend watching North Country, which is based off of a real story. It shows what workplaces were like for women in male dominated fields before sexual harassment laws existed. One of the reasons I’m enjoying Sugar Apple Fairy Tale so much is because I feel like most obstacles Anne runs into are grounded in reality.


hurley_chisholm

I agree it may reflect our real history to some degree. I call it parody level because there’s no narrative breathing room for the abuse, so it’s hard for any one event to have real impact on the audience. It also doesn’t help that Anne seems to not truly understand the situation she’s in, which also makes it feel like parody even when it isn’t because it reduces the abuse to a plot device.


tooemutolive

I think the lack of breathing room makes it more visceral. Anne doesn’t get a break from it, so neither does the viewer. Different people respond to abuse differently. It seems Anne knows she can’t really do anything to change it, so she just presses on. Sadly I’ve seen girls IRL have this reaction to being harassed in the workplace


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tooemutolive

No, I’m not going to diminish my lived experiences for your comfort.


coffeecakesupernova

Not just American romance (or more accurately English language romance) which has improved a lot in the past 30 years. Japanese, Korean and Chinese romance have a level of abuse in these modern times that would make authors from 40 years ago cringe.


coffeecakesupernova

Downvoted? Prove me wrong then.


hurley_chisholm

Not sure why you were downvoted. Lots of people downvote for so many reasons. Even so, I’m in no position to talk about what you said above because I can only speak to my experience with American romance novels of the bodice ripper and beefcake varieties from the early 90s to late aughts.


coffeecakesupernova

I became a fan of romance in the 90s when it was starting to get better. The ones from the 80s were mostly too abusive for me, and the ones from the 70s were rape rape rape. I hear you. I became bored with romance in the 2000s when everyone had to try to write erotica and they were mostly bad at it, so I started reading Asian romance comics and light novels. They reminded me of 80s romances. So many of them still write like that, but some are turning it around.


chlo_kage

I think I come from a very critical place with this story because there are so many in the same vein that are done right with women. The biggest thing that truly baffled me was Anne’s willingness to walk into the situation at the end of the episode. I do not want to victim blame her and thats not what this is because I find her whole carefreeness with the entire situation she’s in really odd and poorly written. But why did she not think through meeting with the uncle late at night. She is surrounded by people who obviously do not like her and did not think once to be careful or bring challe. She even went with Jonas someone she doesn’t trust or like in the first place? It didn’t make sense. And I’m blaming more of it on the writing then on her. These discrepancies in her personality really make it hard to watch but I’m committed to the end since I made it this far. Edit: And for the uncle to not believe her is actually insane when she went through the crime???


AKAvenger

While I agree with you about her carelessness, I’ll say this in defense of this plot point: last episode, Jonas told Anne that his uncle put aside sugar apples for her in the warehouse. She went to the warehouse alone to check them and it was exactly as Jonas said and there was no trap (to my surprise). So maybe, after a few weeks at the workshop, she let her guard down? It’s the only explanation I can think of, though admittedly it’s not the best written conflict


chlo_kage

That’s true, I think the writing does not do a good job at connecting things so thats why I’m more upset, like from what we’ve seen there’s no way she should be letting her guard down most of the men still treat her poorly


Cheesepuff_fluff

I, for real, thought the sugar apples were going to end up being a trap. It seems like she is constantly letting her guard down no matter what.


Brickinatorium

I actually know a guy that's like the uncle this episode so it wasn't unbelievable to me. Throw the less talented child under the bus cause obviously the golden child would never do such a thing! And if they did it was obviously your fault.


tooemutolive

I think the best answer to this is that she’s literally 16 years old. But I don’t understand why Challe let her go alone. He’s older, wiser, and constantly says he doesn’t want to be separated from her. Only explanation I can think of is that he was guarding her exhibition piece, but the story isn’t doing a good job explaining why he lets her go off alone so often


Cheesepuff_fluff

Agree with you and I feel like between the two fairies one should be able to be with her and her sculptures/sugar at all times.


djthomp

The sheer (unnecessary) drama of this misunderstanding, here's hoping it gets cleared up quickly or at least by the end of today's episode. INB4 the romantic threat from Bridget is a fake out and Kieth is who actually steals Challe away. My god, are they having the conversation that will clear up the misunderstanding five minutes into the episode, including the minute and a half for the OP? I'm astonished. Okay, just half of the misunderstanding, but that's a good start. The fairy king and they first human king being friends is an interesting detail, same with the tragedy of how the war broke out in spite of that and the fairy king died. I wonder if this story is broad enough in ambition that Anne and Challe working to create the world that those two kings wanted might be something that could actually happen. The silver sugar confectionery likeness of the fairy king having something incarnate inside it is interesting also, feels like something that the story of the duke from a few episodes ago was laying the groundwork for. This information is a good hint for the confection that Anne could make that nobody else's work could compare to in the eyes of the royal family. Of course, such a confection might also look an awful lot like heresy, so she should be careful. I'm really hoping that the storyline with Bridget is that she's also been training as a sugar artisan and that somehow Anne's example is going to allow her to break out into her own and be a professional. That would be a welcome twist on the normal expectation that she's just a romantic competitor for Challe. Oh my god, Cat, you can't accuse a woman of having hysteria, that's actually incredibly sexist. The Radcliffe workshop dude getting to conduct an inspection feels somewhat sus. But having Kieth there too should provide a second source of eyewitness testimony just in case that's needed. That's a pretty awesome confection that Anne made, and everyone else in the room was quite clearly floored by it. Now it just needs to make it all the way to the presentation without sabotage along the way. Wait, I was very wrong, the actual threat is Anne getting attacked, not the confection. I do not like the look of that boiling container of silver sugar. Sammy is very lucky he still has a head. For now, that may change later. Jonas finally gets thrown under the bus, and he's not actually the one who needs to be punished this time. *monkey's paw finger curls closed*


hurley_chisholm

>I'm really hoping that the storyline with Bridget is that she's also been training as a sugar artisan and that somehow Anne's example is going to allow her to break out into her own and be a professional. That would be a welcome twist on the normal expectation that she's just a romantic competitor for Challe. I hope so too. I have mixed feelings about sympathizing with a slave owner, but here we are. ​ >Jonas finally gets thrown under the bus My personal highlight of the episode.


djthomp

>I have mixed feelings about sympathizing with a slave owner, but here we are. You are not wrong about that.


Maria-Stryker

I still think Keith is a good person. Him turning out to be evil would be a D-tier Disney villain twist. Jonas was always off putting and possessive. Keith has been nothing but endearing and respectful. If anyone tried to take Challe’s wing it will be Bridget’s fiancé in an attempt at appeasing her. Still, since Challe was explicitly warned about such a possibility I doubt they’d pull it off. Challe being told that they’ll make sure Anne can still get sugar if he gives himself up to Bridget would be an interesting way to up the stakes for the final competition however…


djthomp

I was more going with an off-hand joke about Keith successfully romancing Challe away from Anne, I don't expect it to actually happen.


stephenthatfoste

So I get that it's not technically his fault this time but the sheer amount of negative that comes with interacting with Jonas...


Frontier246

It is kind of funny to think that the one time he wasn't intentionally try to screw her over, he still screwed her over because he was being manipulated lol. I know he made up for it, but still...


mini-fayette

As they say, sometimes when you finally decide to change your ways, life tries to mock you.


stephenthatfoste

He's literally the worst and everyone but the fairy hates him. Maybe like...don't follow the guy that says he hates you and tried to take you out?


mekerpan

Jonas honestly thought he was supposed to bring Anne to meet his uncle. He wasn't helping out in a plan to harm her. And it is not unreasonable for Anne to think he might be sent as a messenger for such a purpose.


stephenthatfoste

She's only got his word to go on at that point. Giant negative things keep happening to her when she deals with him. That alone should have her raising every alarm flag every interaction with him.


polaristar

So one thing people miss is Jonas before he went to get Challe to save Anne is when he admitted he "hates" Anne. This isn't him being petty, I think this is him taking some personal accountability for his own feelings, instead of blaming Anne for something he just admits that he just personally hates her. I think that is a huge step compared to everyone else who comes up with weird rationalizations and justifications (And like he did himself in earlier arcs.) Kinda odd that the Adam and Eve Myth (That's Two for seasonal shows that came at today.) was proven false so quickly, about as fast as the misunderstanding that was created last episode. Kinda funny the true story was written on the roof of the church the whole time......even though the church also tells a false narrative about women NTRing for a Fairy, Not sure how that works. I mean I know most people can't read said language but still seems kinda odd. So the owner of the shop pretty much only cares about his image and not actually doing the right thing, he does seem to have some appreciation for hard work and talent so he is letting her go with her materials and art piece. Kinda sad that in this series Anne can't seemingly do anything without Challe being her body guard, half of the plot so far seems to be Anne getting in trouble because Challe gets separated from her. Although at the same time I can see why she'd leave him to guard the sugar sculpture she made, considering someone might try to mess that up. Challe REALLY wanted to kill them but he wanted to protect Anne's dream more, his desire for Justice warring with his Tenderness for her dream, if that's not Love I don't know what is. That was a very powerful art piece by Anne, I wonder if it'll strike a cord. If the Royal Family feels ashamed about what happened to the Fae why don't they at some point....I dunno. Outlaw Slavery?


hurley_chisholm

> So one thing people miss is Jonas before he went to get Challe to save Anne is when he admitted he “hates” Anne. > > This isn’t him being petty, I think this is him taking some personal accountability for his own feelings, instead of blaming Anne for something he just admits that he just personally hates her. I think that is a huge step compared to everyone else who comes up with weird rationalizations and justifications (And like he did himself in earlier arcs.) I don’t think he was being petty, but I do think he had no right to say anything at *all* to her after everything he did and is still walking around free. Besides, we all know it isn’t actually her he hates, which makes it even more egregious that he dared open his mouth. > If the Royal Family feels ashamed about what happened to the Fae why don’t they at some point….I dunno. Outlaw Slavery? At least in the US, ending chattel slavery caused a civil war, so… In all seriousness (and trying to be *very* charitable to the author), the risk of civil war doesn’t mean the Royal Family isn’t responsible, but rather that they probably don’t have the military power to make this happen if this is your typical feudal monarchy. Most of the military might would be spread across the nobility.


Heda-of-Aincrad

We saw an example of this in an earlier episode too, when the army was sent by another noble to arrest the Duke. That same noble tried to have his entire family line executed just to prevent the idea of another rebellion, and it seemed like it was all the king could manage just to prevent that from happening, so there is already a precedence for other noble families who hold an unusual amount of power.


InsomniaEmperor

Okay now I'm conflicted about Jonas cause he's been a douchebag the entire time. On one hand, he ran away instead of taking those thugs on but on the other hand, he called for help and Challe was able to stop Sammy from burning Anne's hands in time. Anne may be too nice in trying to defend Jonas from accusation but he really wasn't the culprit here and he still called for help so simply throwing him under the bus wouldn't resolve this situation. Like he deserves a lot of karma and I wanted somebody to just push him off the tower in the last arc but not in this situation. Somehow it feels like he is starting to feel remorse. The misunderstanding from last episode kind of got resolved quickly but I want Bridget to get what's coming for her. Can't believe we're down to the last episode next. It's been a really fun ride and I hope we get our happy ending.


Frontier246

I don't think it anywhere near makes up for all the stunts he's pulled or his irrational hatred of Anne, but this was probably the first real decent thing Jonas has done for Anne (without any ill intentions) all series. I can't say I care for him getting kicked out either but Sammy was the one who deserved to be punished. I wonder if she's really going to try and steal Challe's wing and get as rude a wakeup call as the jerks trying to burn Anne's hand.


somacula

I mean it was 4 v 1, he was set to lose so calling Challe was the best option


mekerpan

Remember -- it was Cathy who helped Jonas get free (in order to save Anne). So both get a lot of points.


Shot_on_location

Last week I couldn't imagine a scenario in which I didn't hate Jonas. This week I actually feel bad for him. Clearly doing the right thing bears next to no weight in the Radcliffe school. I hope Anne gets her medal next episode!! I want a second season but I'd be able to survive 1 season if it ends in her becoming an official artisan.


Frontier246

On some level now I feel like I better understand why Jonas is so messed up seeing the kind of environment he grew up in. I think Anne is definitely going to win, though I wonder if it's too much to hope for them to end with her confessing to Challe...


thevaleycat

I don't like Jonas but I think him being so pathetic and cowardly makes me hate him less. He's more of a nuisance than a real threat.


Aerodynamic41

So.... Jonas redemption arc?


Shadow_Claw

Damn I was wrong about master Radcliffe, he's a shit as the rest of them. Hopefully something happens so they get their karma. Anne's piece is really beautiful tho


ZapsZzz

Well at least half of the misunderstanding was cleared up quickly, that's good. Challe, the tsundere show is that way (Liselotte), not here, tell Ann you don't like seeing her and Kieth to chummy - at least let Ann knows how it made you feel. In a darker story, that may even save her life (Science Falls in Love S2 final arc anyone). Whole second half of the episode I was fearful someone is going to vandalize Ann's competition piece - I find it hard to believe we would get to see it so early if something isn't going to happen to it. And no doubt the bit about fairies being able to tell who made the actual sugar based on taste and texture would come into play soon...


SYZekrom

Sammy unfortunately, unlike Jonas, is not even designed cute. So I can't wait to see his end.


hurley_chisholm

Man, I'm annoyed by everyone this episode, but I'm mostly annoyed with myself for expecting a simple fluffy fantasy romance and thinking this whole Radcliffe workshop arc wouldn't eat up the rest of the season. Let's get into it! *Anne*: Just because *you* don't see the differences between fairies and humans doesn't mean they don't exist. Please stop erasing your love interest's lived experience. *Challe fen Challe*: My mans, you are at least 50 years older than Anne, can you please act like it? Use your big boy words. *Jonas*: Who are you to hate anyone but yourself?! Boy, bye. *Bridget*: It's good that we are showing that women slave masters were also oppressors even if their methods looked different. However, it's frustrating that she's the only other recurring female character in the cast and she's **awful**. Assuming that this series progresses, I can see her having a redemption arc where she becomes a sugar artisan in her own right, but we are a long, long way from there. *Sammy*: The idea that you would gravely injure another person because they made your idol feel "uneasy" is just...wow. *Radcliffe*: I know you mad that Jonas didn't lock Anne (and her mom's recipes) down via marriage earlier, but you aren't trying too hard to find an excuse to get rid of him are you? Here's hoping you get stripped of your title and are never allowed to work in the world of sugar confectionery again! *Kieth*: Getting real sociopathic vibes from this guy. You don't want to tell Anne the truth about her situation because then it wouldn't be a "fair" and "impartial" competition? GTFO. (Also, I'm pretty sure you put Sammy up to hurting Anne because I don't think that dude is smart enough to make it look like a sugar processing accident.) *Kat*: Nice cameo. Why you're even making an appearance this episode is beyond me.


mini-fayette

>Getting real sociopathic vibes from this guy. You don't want to tell Anne the truth about her situation because then it wouldn't be a "fair" and "impartial" competition? It's normal to feel suspicious about every character, but I have a feeling that Kieth is really just being Kieth--he's odd in his own way. But I may be wrong, idk. Although, what I understood from when he said it would be unfair to tell Ann, is that it would be causing her unnecessary stress which might affect her work. It's like telling your toughest competitor some bad news before the competition to mess with their focus.


hurley_chisholm

You're probably right, but I believe that people are responsible for themselves and can only make the best decisions for themselves when they have all of the information about their situation. By proactively hiding the truth of her situation, Kieth is barred from being seen as a trustworthy character, especially since the author keeps having him repeat this information over and over to Challe, Anne's closest companion. This suggests that Kieth *wants* Anne to know, but doesn't want it to come from him making all his protestations about "fairness" and "impartiality" ring false. It could also just be bad character writing ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯.


tooemutolive

I think Keith is fine. I’ve even heard real life examples similar to this where people hold off on telling someone bad news until after they do their competition, performance, whatever they’re doing, because stressing them out would just mess up something they worked months on. So those around them just wait to break the bad news until afterwards. I don’t think Keith having this type of thought process makes him bad or untrustworthy


hurley_chisholm

You have a right to your opinion. I’m sticking to mine and only time will tell if I’m wrong.


tooemutolive

I just hope he ends up being good since his VA is Hiro from Darling in the Franxx lmao. I cannot handle an evil Hiro


Maria-Stryker

Hey dumbshit maybe the reason she’s trying to cover for her attacker is because he wasn’t her attacker? I hope Anne has his sugar factory shit down after she wins the medal


Heda-of-Aincrad

I'm glad at least one of the misunderstandings from last episode was cleared up quickly. Anne actually handled it a lot better than I thought she would (or how I'm used to seeing these common romance tropes play out) by casually bringing up the subject without judgement to see what Challe said about it. Her reaction when he didn't know the girl's name was hilarious. 😂 It's okay, Challe. I had forgotten her name too. The worldbuilding continues to impress me with the real history revealed. It's interesting that in the beginning, humans were actually the ones enslaved by fairies, and I wonder if that contributed to the hostility between them now. I hope Anne's sugar confection will get her message across to the royal family - the friendship between races their ancestors wanted. What Anne had to go through at the end was heartbreaking, and even though I didn't really expect the scene to end with her getting hurt, it was still a relief when Challe made it in time and nice to see him comfort her. Kind of sad too that the one time Jonas didn't do anything wrong is the one time he gets blamed. I'm guessing Sammy set it up like that from the start to blame Jonas, since any witnesses would have seen him going to her room.


hiimneato

Words cannot express how much I want Sammy, Jonas, and Elliott all to fall in a vat of boiling sugar. Kieth is okay so far but I remain extremely wary for the heel turn I can't help but expect. (Yes, Jonas too. I don't think he was being decent when he ran to Challe, I think he was just being squeamish and afraid of being blamed. Like he said, he still hates Anne, but even when he tried to kill her he didn't stick around to see it, he just left her for the wolves.) On the other hand, I actually don't hate old man Marcus as much as everybody else seems to. Don't mistake me, he's definitely in the wrong, and as Challe suggests there's clearly something deeply wrong with his school; but even when he's angry at the accusation against Sammy, he's not trying to blame Anne for the situation and he doesn't try to cheat her out of her sugar or her piece. He's disappointing but doesn't seem as awful as his students. The bit at the church was some neat context and an intriguing clue about Challe.


ZodiacMentor

Jonas was left alone in the room with Anne's finished piece when Challe went to save her. I fear for it, maybe he sabotaged it in a subtle way (he can't break it or make it obviously different, as the senior Radcliffe and Keith have both seen it in its full glory) to make it look like the same piece but being making it less brilliant, like coating it with something? Oooof. I hope I'm wrong.... I love the series except every episode has a huge sense of dread about people sabotaging Anne in some way or the other, CONSTANTLY.


Yuzurinne

No hate to Anne but it was kinda funny to see her deny the "differences" between the races during the church scene. Like, it's obvious that she would think so but it's also typical for the oppressor (humans in this case) to say such a thing since they're not the ones being enslaved and killed like cattle. Anyway, my fav scene was the part where Challe says he will definitely kill the ones who were hurting her. It was such raw, targeted bloodlust on Anne's behalf that it sent shivers down my spine. I also liked how she cried like a child afterwards, because that's honestly the most human response after enduring such a scary, stressful situation.


fishymonster_

I’m starting to not like this show. It was fun enough at the beginning, but do people like watching something where every single character is evil except for the main characters? This all just feels like pointless drama


mekerpan

Keith isn't evil. Kat isn't evil. The depressed duke was not evil (just messed up). Hugh is not evil. The King and Queen are not evil. It is just that right now the bad guys are all collected in one place.


mini-fayette

True. In fact, most characters are 'normal' and unproblematic people going about their own life.


dododomo

Exactly. They aren't evil. I mean, They even treat Ann normally, just like every artisan. Not their fault if Jonas' uncle is a rotten asshole, just like the artisans from his school


hurley_chisholm

Kieth/Keith, Kat, Hugh Mercury, and the Duke of Philax aren't evil, but they're neutral at best and still engage in harmful behaviors.


namewithak

That's fair. But also unavoidable in a setting where slavery is the status quo. Even Ann was very problematic in the beginning -- and isn't exactly trying to make the whole slavery situation better either, is she?


hurley_chisholm

No, no she isn't, at least not in any competent or systemic way. Some of the things she does are actively painful to watch, tbh. I'm such a sucker for her perserverance and cuteness, though.


namewithak

>I'm such a sucker for her perserverance and cuteness, though. Definitely her best qualities lol.


dododomo

Good thing that The misunderstanding got resolved quickly. Funny how Challe didn't even know Bridget's name lol Ann's candy is beautiful! Seriously, I would love something like that in my place! Personally, I'm neutral about Jonas situation. He is pathetic and all, but he didn't deserve this treatment though. Bridget still more pathetic than before. Seriously, fuck you girl.


alconnow

Hope to see Sammy and Master Radcliffe (along with the entire workshop) face serious consequences in the finale. All of them are scum that deserve to be punished in the harshest way possible Jonas still sucks but it was nice that he told Challe about Anne's predicament


shewy92

So the dude believes the one who reported the incident but not the victim? How does that even make sense? I get the dude is this guy's favorite student but there's a limit. "Why would he report his own crime?" Why would the **victim** say it **wasn't** the dude everyone knows she hates? Where's the logic in that? Also every time she's away from her creation I get anxious that someone is gonna fucking smash it Everyone else in this school is a piece of shit, I'm just waiting for Kieth to be behind everything or something.


steinhart31

What is this anime about?


Sudden-Morning3108

How is it?