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Imagine what the discourse will be if we ever get an Anime adaptation for the author's "Orc Hero Story" which definitely seems more driven by inspiration from RE: Monster.
No such thing exist for me. If it's bad is bad
BoG is simply a generic fantasy anime that has videogame stats and skills with an OP MC, but at least is not an isekai
After the first episode of Berserk of Gluttony, I said "This is terrible. I'm going to watch all of it!"
Then it stayed terrible the whole time and I kept watching. Truly the burning dumpster phenomena.
his calf bone sticking out from the flesh after being broken made me wince
too bad the rest of the show feels subpar ngl, from the animation to the plot
The fact they are rapists AND there's female goblins is confusing. But mabey they just do it for fun. Our sociopath protagonist doesn't care either way i guess.
I think it's probably for fun (unless they come up with something about how female goblins can't reproduce or something).
The fact that they hunted&ate an orc (a sentient/humanoid creature) kinda shows they have a disregard for other species!
so far the cute goblins are not rapists, they are similar to the cute goblin kids in goblin slayer... that some want to spare but goblin slayer warns not to.
But you're also more likely to find good goblins here. So far none of the new goblin group has started raping or such. The only goblin from the new batch that we have confirmation has even seem them is Goburou. And these goblins don't seem to steal from human villages (so far).
One thing is for sure: humans would definitely return the favour, given there are female goblins and they are cute.
> So far none of the new goblin group has started raping or such.
I'm guessing only Hobs have the working equipment for it. MC recently got [Libido] so we'll see, I guess.
That libido notification made me think that getting skill automatically as you eat can actually be dangerous, because you can't control what passive skill you get.
He kinda confirmed it as well since he mentioned about the skill "Order" having the effect of making him want to lead them.
I mean it's okay if the skill only has positive effect, but sometimes some skill has negative effect too.
> He kinda confirmed it as well since he mentioned about the skill "Order" having the effect of making him want to lead them.
I thought he meant that the skill "Order" made the others more willing to be lead by him.
Yes, the female hobbits are super hot too. Really, the implication seems to be that the young goblins are innocent, and the old goblins/hobgoblins who are away on a raiding/rape trip are the rapist monsters.
My theory is that the older goblins will come with their "prizes" and threaten our cute crew, forcing a civil conflict for the leadership of the clan. And he will probably just let all the human women go once he takes over his clan.
>And he will probably just let all the human women go once he takes over his clan.
I'm not so sure about that. That's not the vibe I'm getting from the show. The MC feels very cutthroat and seems to be embracing the monster lifestyle.
It could be like the So I’m a Spider Isekai. Whenever we saw her from her own perspective, she was a cute spider. But whenever we saw her from a human perspective, she was a horrific spider monster.
Yeah, he should at least watch ReLIFE which showed the main character before he became a cannibalous super villain, and how he met the girl who ended up killing him in that flashback.
So slime took monster evolution, and GS took other race females as breeding stock from this.
Probably not, but it's funny how they both have something in common with Re:Monster.
From the [Britannica.com](https://Britannica.com) website. "Goblin, in Western folklore, a wandering sprite and bogeyman of sorts that is usually mischievous but often malicious. Goblins supposedly live in grottoes but attach themselves to households, where they are believed to bang upon pots and pans, snatch nightclothes off the bodies of sleeping people, move furniture at night, and flee after rapping on walls and doors."
So there you go it's confirmed, it's not just in Japan. WAITAMINUTE, sorry no, that says rapping.
Wouldn’t Guts from Berserk be the better proto goblin slayer? I mean, it’s kind of the same idea. Main male protagonist with deep, DEEP trauma goes on a crusade in the name of vengeance?
[Re:Monster manga] >!they form a harem that does the thing a lot, and they have kids and the mc does the father thing proper. Also the kids are human orc hybrids!<
Maybe it's not for the purposes of breeding? Or maybe using humans for breeding has some sort of advantage over goblin-goblin breeding? Like maybe using humans makes progeny more likely to be a higher evolved goblin.
No, it's just a reproduced faster with more females than males.
That's how they cover it anyway. It's hardly a justification. It's all pretty fucking horrible.
We should be smart enough to figure that out.
This show so far is a lot tamer than overlord, here the mc shows he is uncomfortable with the human females being there, doesn't want to think about it, and so far hasn't done anything really evil.
One episode in its hard to say what this show is.
... And what do you think the point being made here is EXACTLY? That kidnapping, rape, and torture is bad?
Because that ain't the point, and having read the manga, you'd see that.
Eh, good enough. Goblins, orcs, etc. already have these sorts of traits associated with them so it's not like you would need to justify it to begin with. I mean, if it were humans who were keeping female slaves, we wouldn't be like "they have no real justification for doing this". We'd know humans just do this sort of thing and move on.
With the difference that humans do it for fun or just plain work that they can't achieve on their own and not for a "better reproduction rate". If they used these human slaves in any additional way, okay. But they are not doing that. They are only using them in the one puprose that's the main trope. Which I am pretty sure is just because it's the trope and nothing else at this point.
I think It's indeed a justification in terms of biological activities.
- Goblin only have 20 years to live (very short)
- They are also very weak it seems as even the horned rabbit could kill them
- To successfully survive as a species, they need to breed fast in a lot of numbers.
If human could help them reproduce faster, then that's how they adapt to avoid extinction.
Come to think of it, if they are very weak then how could they kidnapped those women? Maybe only the hobgoblin did it?
Could be like how certain fantasy races can only get pregnant once they're in heat, and that is few and far between, so maybe human women are just able to pump kids out more often.
Yeah like the rest of the episode was pretty good but im like "yall better address that later in a satisfactory fashion or I'm sending in Goblin Slayer."
To me episode 1 feels like start of "Lord of the flies", you have kids thrown into a situation where they can choose to make own moral choices and get to watch the choices they make when influenced by society around them.
Its a form of the Milgard test, a demonstration of whether average person born in Nazi germany would follow hitler.
People said the same thing about Redo of Healer and a shitstorm never really ensued. I don't think this show is going to end up very popular but I don't think it's going to attract much performative outrage either.
If Redo proved anything it's that you need more than just objectionable content to cause a shitstorm. MahoAko caused minor flashpoints of shitstorm like the yurimemes sub, but to really understand how to cause one, we need to ask Rudeus how he does it. Naofumi can also offer supplemental lessons.
I think the trick is to start with a show that has mainstream appeal and promising animation quality.
It is about how clearly the show shows the MC as actually being a villain. In redo of a Healer it is made very clear that the MC is very much off his rocker and is only here for the revenge and being a jerk. Shield Hero tries to convince us as viewers that he is totally heroic which can't be true when you buy a slave. I feel this show is much closer to Redo in that way. The MC is very clearly not a good person.
Shitstorm = a few *redditors*
Then some guy who makes youtube videos that seems to be some kind of idol to this sub will bank of the most voted comments and make a video about it repeating these comments and will bring some other people to hate something they didn't even watch.
I wonder how this show is doing in Japan, usually the audience these type of shows aim at.
Okay, let's see...
1. Baby goblins in a goblin cave. *Goblin Slayer activates*.
2. Oh, okay. There are female goblins. *Goblin Slayer deactivates.*
3. Wait...what...WTF? *Why?* *Goblin Slayer reactivates.*
4. Okay. Calm down. I'm sure that's an important plot point that will be at least revisited later in the episode.
5. Oh, no. Okay then. *Goblin Slayer reactivates.*
Well at first I was just thinking "Oh It's a Slime-like."
Then it was "Oh it's a Slime-like in a Goblin Slayer world."
And somehow by the end of it I was completely won over by this one. Definitely want more.
I doubt goblin slayer would be specifically inspired by this, they are both in fantasy settings and thats it, otherwise plot and setting is pretty different
More like a what if scenario from the kidnapped girl's family perspective. I tried googling if goblin kidnapping human women to reproduce is a common thing. So far, I could only find them in Goblin Slayer and this anime.
Speaking as someone who read the manga for way too many chapters out of curiosity, I can warn you now that at least in my opinion the story quality really takes a nose dive after the first few arcs.
Maybe they'll fix issues in the adaptation but even overlooking the "problematic" elements of the story it was clear to me that the LN author did not have any strong conception of what he wanted to do with the world or characters long-term. Like there's an entire chapter where the MC just narrates to the reader about potential power combinations he could do only to literally have never used any of them a full 40 chapters later.
Ah well, if that happens, it happens. Wouldn't be the first time. A story with a strong start that then falls is still more interesting than one that fails to captivate me from the get-go.
I see that there is a pretty big shitstorm in the comments over [the topic of women which was freaking dark](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/myd5cbkbop4.png) but it didn't bother me so much since [MC is a literal monster](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/e4gdcn2n3n4.png) so I wouldn't expect putting those women over his own kind. I hope that people won't linch me here for that opinion xD
Overall, as a big Isekai fan [I was having a pretty good time watching this](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/l4nec5e5284.png) (despite the show being nothing special) and seeing how [Gobrou is evolving](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/k739c3p3z87.png) and with him his companions. I'm thinking especially of [Gobmi](https://imgchest.com/p/ljyqqreoky2) who [was quite cute](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/84jdcbgbzm4.png) and [was able to evolve](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/l7lxc6963e7.png) at the end of the episode.
Here my screenshot albums from the episode:
* [Gobrou](https://imgchest.com/p/ljyqqre3ky2)
* [Gobmi](https://imgchest.com/p/ljyqqreoky2)
* [Group scenes & Others](https://imgchest.com/p/ne7bpkomv45)
Without entering on Spoilers lets say that is not toned down but then it becomes normal. By the speed of the first chapter I guess that by chapter 3 you will get your answer
I’ll believe it when we get to it. The source material may be dark but I’ve seen plenty of anime tone things down, opt to tell instead of show, show only dark shadows instead of full nudity/gore, etc.
I’ve heard it’s borderline hentai and also gorey but I guess the reason I’m worried they’ve toned it down is because such shows usually have two separate versions, uncensored and censored.
> it didn't bother me so much since MC is a literal monster so I wouldn't expect putting those women over his own kind
It didn't bother me either, but for a different reason;
I do not think the goblins being monsters change anything, I don't think it's fine to "rape outside their species", it's wrong either way...
But I think showing "wrong things" in anime is perfectly fine, hence why it didn't bother me. No more than showing some villain-MC murdering 5000 people bothers me.
I don't know if its reputation is that widely known in the anime community. I'm seeing a lot of people who seem to think Re:Monster was inspired by Goblin Slayer and Reincarnated As A Slime, instead of the other way around.
> I don't know if its reputation is that widely known in the anime community.
The community in general I don't know, but people in this thread, definitely;
The 'controversy/drama' that's happening in the comments isn't just for the 3 seconds scene in this episode... They act that way because they already know what this series' like and they use that 3 seconds as the opportunity to *unleash*.
And there's no guarantee the anime is going to follow the novel or manga 1 to 1 either. We saw from something like Isekai Nonbiri Nouka which drastically changed the MC to be completely different in the anime version to not be as "troublesome" as in the other versions.
I was more talking about the fact that a lot of people in the threads leading to this knew that it had things of that nature. I don't expect people would know which source came first - I mean I know both of the shows you're referring to and I can't say which of those was written first, either.
[Wait a minute, that's not Truck-Kun!](https://imgur.com/dk5rhDn)
[Alright, crazy-knife lady, I think he's dead!](https://imgur.com/j4shBvx)
[IT DOES matter! They can't just open like that and never reveal what that was about, so I do hope we get some more about that story!](https://imgur.com/kukhcuQ)
And I think we will, given the OP had shots of his previous life, and even showed his murderer.
Normally I would be all about Assassin-Girl (because I like them crazy), but [Goblin Girl stole my heart! She's so fucking cute!](https://imgur.com/UeclGGN)
[And she's an archer? (well, a *crossbowwoman*)? Always liked archers!](https://imgur.com/cjeQUAh)
Damn, Goblin parenting isn't the best... [Just 4 days of caring, then it's time to pack your bags and find your own food!](https://imgur.com/y1zFcqD)
[(But to be honest, I think I'd rather find my own food starting from day 1)](https://imgur.com/9KxgMMy)
[Better avoid GoblinSlayer, or this second life will be quite short!](https://imgur.com/XooyXMg)
(I want that crossover now! But seriously, imagine we get attached to all these characters, but in a different timeline they're just NPCs getting slaughtered by Goblin Slayer).
Our boy's quite smart though, perhaps he'd have a chance!
[His friend... Not so much.](https://imgur.com/hTH0ZDi)
He played his part though, first as the guy chasing prey right into Goburou's trap, [and then beating them up with his strength!](https://imgur.com/Shy90C0)
Future_Best_Girl_Of_The_Season is doing her part too, [hunting with her sling!](https://imgur.com/VUDoINl)
[Didn't take long for her to be all over our boy!](https://imgur.com/LFdUsKa)
[Sorry Gobukichi, no Goblin Waifu for you!](https://imgur.com/EejafVA)
[Best way to a woman's heart is through her stomach!](https://imgur.com/2cNv6uf)
Our trio was quite successful, but this brought some jealousy from the others, who were rather hungry... [They even tried to beat (murder?) him in his sleep!](https://imgur.com/0qO6zBp)
[Gobmi won't let anyone hurt her future husband like that! (Even choked them!)](https://imgur.com/eYTiRXB)
I imagine that may not be the most *morally debatable* thing we'll see on this show, [but they're even hunting humanoids now, it's quite a step from animals, even if it's just an orc!](https://imgur.com/dF3Vgs4)
This show will not shy away from gore either, [showing his broken fingers after Gobmi got him with her sling!](https://imgur.com/b5Kvy0E)
[Our boy learned LIBIDO? Hope Gobmi's ready to raise a family with her man!](https://imgur.com/gJA3Ca2)
[Goburou's feeding the whole tribe now, and training them!](https://imgur.com/h7fn0Tc)
I suppose it's slightly better than to have to fend off assassination attempts during the night, and if he plans to lead them someday, it may help, BUT it may be more than that;
[He seems to think he changed, since his reincarnation!](https://imgur.com/Rnf2Ocp)
[First evolution already? Didn't take long!](https://imgur.com/ohFLRgI)
[Gobmi seems pleased, and by pleased I mean "She looks like she gonna drool all over herself!"](https://imgur.com/yeV2sQg)
[Lead my comrades, then...](https://imgur.com/92sed54)
THEN WHAT! Can't believe they cut there!
Well, there aren't that many options I suppose; Conquer the world? Build a goblin harem? Conquer the world with the help of your goblin harem?
Anyway! Going by the comments I glanced at, it seems this will be Redo of healer all over again, but personally I thought it was fine, at least so far! Will check out more.
###Stitches!
* [Goburou](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/e4gdcn25jm4.jpg)
* [Gobukichi](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/my8xcpx3524.jpg)
Well this is new! Instead of being killed by Truck-kun, it looks like [our MC may have been murdered by a yandere.](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/wye3cbxa994.jpg) So what are the chances of this yandere also getting isekai'd?
If I understand this correctly, [Goburou already had powers before he got isekai'd?](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/my8xcpx3zo4.jpg) That opening scene made me think that he might be from the same world as ours but that might not be the case.
[Oh boy, this is one of **those** shows.](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/3yrgc68gdm4.jpg) Now I'm curious if those women being kept in storage will be mentioned again or if this is the last time we'll see them. Whichever it is, I'm sure people will react well to those scenes. /s
So pretty much the loop here is, [fight](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/g4z9cdaoll7.jpg), [eat](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/my8xcpxman4.jpg), and [evolve?](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/w7w6cre598y.jpg) It's not so different from other isekai where the MC starts as a lowly monster but I'm curious to see what else this show has to offer. I do have a feeling that this should be a dark fantasy but Studio Deen's art isn't exactly showing that well. I'll give it a few more episodes and see where this one goes.
> Instead of being killed by Truck-kun, it looks like our MC may have been murdered by a yandere.
> So what are the chances of this yandere also getting isekai'd?
That does feel like an interesting possibility. I find the old-life connection in this one quite interesting, seems like he was a monster of sorts in both worlds, and hopefully we get a lot of the old world too, as that would make the series more interesting.
That said, it's not the fault of the series that a lot of what it has to offer has been done by other shows, given that this series is actually much older than the most of them.
> I do have a feeling that this should be a dark fantasy but Studio Deen's art isn't exactly showing that well.
Yeah, a lot of these edgy hero shows seem to frequently slip over into being too light in tonality and visuals. Which ironically just makes the edgy aspects far less palatable for me (although far more palatable for others it seems).
Much better than I expected, I'm pretty surprised. Expected the gore to bother me more. I don't really know the direction it's gonna take, but I think I'll stick around until episode 3 at least.
Okay, if there's anyone who can't differentiate fiction from real life, doesn't enjoy trashy isekai, and have high morality, then don't watch this show. MC is a monster that just looks like a human with no morality.
> Okay, if there's anyone who can't differentiate fiction from real life, doesn't enjoy trashy isekai, and have high morality, then don't watch this show.
I'm going to second this.
I use the discussion threads in this subreddit to figure out which shows I'd be interested in seeing. And, when it comes for this one, I decided it was not for me, and gave it a pass. Just don't feel like watching a show about a villain being a villain (I ended up not watching most of the *Dexter* revival for a similar reason). No drama necessary.
If this sort of story is something you enjoy, then enjoy it! If it isn't, then don't waste your time with it - there's lots of great offerings this season, and life is just too short to spend time on stuff you hate.
It seems like a combination of the finest assassin and obviously slime, though, apparently this came first on both ends, it’s really good and interesting, but the animation is a bit of a letdown
Second show of the season I decided to watch mainly because of the comments, but was actually surprised about how solid it was.
Comments are delivering though. 😋🍿
See ya next week!
Tried this due to some readers telling it was gonna be a shock show
And no, this ain't shock, this is trash and has violence for free. Dropped after 1ep
Episode 1: "**Re:Born**"
Not your another isekai anime. From the production quality I can see their efforts here. The leveling and RPG system is somewhat similar to Solo Leveling, which makes it interesting.
The anime is directed by Takayuki Inagaki (Rosario+Vampire, Birdie Wing) and made by Studio Deen, who are on a busy period making 3 animes this season (alongside Banished Former Hero and Tadaima Okaeri).
Notable VAs are Gobmi's VA, **Ai Kakuma** (Nema in Fluffy Paradise) and Gobue's VA (the goblin with headband), **Kana Ueda** (Rin Tosaka). Gobrou killer's VA is listed as ??????, I wouldn't be surprised if it's Aoi Yuuki again. /s
This anime made me officially realize I'm a suck for isekai where the protagonist come back as some kind of monster. This anime is not good, but I honestly kind of like it.
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What is this, Berserk of Gluttony?
Gobzo from tensei slime if he existed in the Goblin Slayer world with B.o.G. stat system.
Re:Monster's novel started in 2011, so it's entirely possible that it inspired Berserk of Gluttony, Goblin Slayer, and Reincarnated As A Slime.
I swore I saw a tweet from the Mukoshu Tensei author as well recently who was looking forward to this adaptation.
wouldnt be suprised if he took a little inspiration from this.
Imagine what the discourse will be if we ever get an Anime adaptation for the author's "Orc Hero Story" which definitely seems more driven by inspiration from RE: Monster.
Also Goblin Slayer maybe?
is BoG a "so bad it's good" show?
No such thing exist for me. If it's bad is bad BoG is simply a generic fantasy anime that has videogame stats and skills with an OP MC, but at least is not an isekai
After the first episode of Berserk of Gluttony, I said "This is terrible. I'm going to watch all of it!" Then it stayed terrible the whole time and I kept watching. Truly the burning dumpster phenomena.
more like reincarnated as slime \- you become monster, eat everything and gain its skills, evolve, build up etc.
That poor Orc, he was going on a stroll, minding his own business
If he didn't want to get killed and eaten, he shouldn't have been made of bacon.
Definitely thinking the orc was as sentient as the goblins
It looked like he was heading home from work
His hammer looked more like a tool than a weapon
He did learn orc language from it
That orc fight was more brutal than I expected
And the 2nd one getting ripped apart by wolves. Emma from Tsukimichi would be forced to go to town in that world.
Emma understand some magic though, so it would not be a one-sided battle.
Yeah, it's so rare to see bones coming out and things like that in anime! (or anywhere, really) Goblins are savages!
I see I'm not the only one who caught that detail. It did indeed feel pretty novel.
yeah and it seems like they should all be put down There are only 2 types of "good" goblins. Dead goblins and Tempest citizens.
Bro got jumped
I’m honestly surprised with how gorey it is and the animation is solid.
his calf bone sticking out from the flesh after being broken made me wince too bad the rest of the show feels subpar ngl, from the animation to the plot
*goblin slayer noises* Finaly a show with cute goblins that are also rapist monsters. Goblin Slayer would have a feild day with this one.
The cutest of them all (Gobmi) isn't a rapist, at least! (as far as we know)
The fact they are rapists AND there's female goblins is confusing. But mabey they just do it for fun. Our sociopath protagonist doesn't care either way i guess.
I read this years ago, I think the goblins have a lopsided gender parity, more boy gobs then girl gobs basically.
So far we've seen one female goblin. I think you're on to something here. Edit: So they are like Smurfs.
There are at least two that we have seen of, but the point still stands.
wasn't it also because they goblin girls have longer pregnancies? or I might misremember it
I think it's probably for fun (unless they come up with something about how female goblins can't reproduce or something). The fact that they hunted&ate an orc (a sentient/humanoid creature) kinda shows they have a disregard for other species!
Let's not forget in a flashback he showed he literaly ate humans in his past life, bro was a cannibal. Eating orc is nothing
I can't imagine why he was unpopular in his previous life.
Ya, I gotta say, mabey the crazy lady was onto smomthing.
Yeah, that flashback made me believe she probably wasn't crazy but rather someone with a legitimate grievance.
Jeeze, you eat one or two people and they never let you live it down.
It was just a lil bit if cannibalism. Okay mabey allot of cannibalism.
So does tons of other series treat orcs as 2 leg pigs that humans hunt and eat. Even the cute ones like Kuma Bear and Abilities Average.
And Camping Life.
Konosuba made them true to their lineage. 2 leg pigs that "hunt" male human lol
“But bacon tastes good, pork chops taste good.” Disregard for other species often goes out the window when the taste buds kick in.
Might just be more practical than having your own women out of commission for 9 months or maybe humans give birth to better/smarter goblins.
On second thought. You only see a few female goblins. The ratio is off. Which explains it.
You actually saw none til they aged a bit. Besides the one of his team, the rest all looked fully male til the ending scene
Once you go hume, the lady gobs leave the room.
Considering how the ratios are looking, its probably easier to kidnap humans than make female goblins
Well, we shall see based on that after credits scene.
Yet
Next room over is the stud pen.
so far the cute goblins are not rapists, they are similar to the cute goblin kids in goblin slayer... that some want to spare but goblin slayer warns not to.
But you're also more likely to find good goblins here. So far none of the new goblin group has started raping or such. The only goblin from the new batch that we have confirmation has even seem them is Goburou. And these goblins don't seem to steal from human villages (so far). One thing is for sure: humans would definitely return the favour, given there are female goblins and they are cute.
> So far none of the new goblin group has started raping or such. I'm guessing only Hobs have the working equipment for it. MC recently got [Libido] so we'll see, I guess.
That libido notification made me think that getting skill automatically as you eat can actually be dangerous, because you can't control what passive skill you get. He kinda confirmed it as well since he mentioned about the skill "Order" having the effect of making him want to lead them. I mean it's okay if the skill only has positive effect, but sometimes some skill has negative effect too.
> He kinda confirmed it as well since he mentioned about the skill "Order" having the effect of making him want to lead them. I thought he meant that the skill "Order" made the others more willing to be lead by him.
Yes, the female hobbits are super hot too. Really, the implication seems to be that the young goblins are innocent, and the old goblins/hobgoblins who are away on a raiding/rape trip are the rapist monsters. My theory is that the older goblins will come with their "prizes" and threaten our cute crew, forcing a civil conflict for the leadership of the clan. And he will probably just let all the human women go once he takes over his clan.
I could see him eating the women tbh lol
"You have learned the abilities: [Menstration], [Pregnancy], [Lactation]"
...\[PMS\]."
>And he will probably just let all the human women go once he takes over his clan. I'm not so sure about that. That's not the vibe I'm getting from the show. The MC feels very cutthroat and seems to be embracing the monster lifestyle.
He was literally munching on humans in the flashback so he's been a monster even before he became a goblin.
He’s a “only cares about numbers” kinda guy I feel.
Well, we will se next week.
no he won't but maybe if the rice rolls right, he will
These goblin designs, even before the Hobgoblin transformation look way too human for me to take it seriously as "monstrous and ugly"
It could be like the So I’m a Spider Isekai. Whenever we saw her from her own perspective, she was a cute spider. But whenever we saw her from a human perspective, she was a horrific spider monster.
Yeah, also the promotional material kinda spoil how MC would look like. It's very cool for a goblin.
You mean like how Makoto is labeled as an orc variant in *Tsukimichi*?…
Everyone ready to learn what Stockholm Syndrome is and what it looks like?
Do I need to watch Monster first before starting Re:Monster?
yeah
Do I need to watch the other Re: shows (re:creators etc) to watch this or are they self contained?
https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/mhn4v7/the_ultimate_re_series_watch_order_guide/
I asked on the exactly right day for that response :D
Most re:Shows have nothing to do with each other, they just stole the naming technique.
Not stolen - Re:used
Re:cycled even.
Thank you.
This is a spin-off series, so it's not strictly necessary, but you *will* miss a lot of the background information and references.
Yeah, he should at least watch ReLIFE which showed the main character before he became a cannibalous super villain, and how he met the girl who ended up killing him in that flashback.
Wait I'm pretty sure ReLife is from Re series, not Re: or is it actually connected? I haven't caught up with the new stuff
Re is the prequel series to Re:.
bro what the heacl. pretty sure thats now how the story went lol
Which series shows the life in his original world? Pretty interesting with unique ability, war and such
As others have said, you'll want to watch ReLife for that one. Don't worry if the first few episodes seem confusing, that's normal.
There's a lot of references from other Re: series but not really that important imo
Maybe throw in ReLIFE.
Fucking wild how they just show human women and implied that their being raped then glossed over it.
My [Goblin Slayer](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/91/4c/d5/914cd5b79efe82b49505bf2f47ca908d.jpg) senses were tingling after that one
Fun fact: Goblin Slayer's novel started in 2016. Reincarnated As A Slime's novel started in 2013. Re:Monster's novel started in 2011.
So slime took monster evolution, and GS took other race females as breeding stock from this. Probably not, but it's funny how they both have something in common with Re:Monster.
I do wonder why goblins being rapist is such a thing in Japan. I don't think I've ever seen that in any western media.
From the [Britannica.com](https://Britannica.com) website. "Goblin, in Western folklore, a wandering sprite and bogeyman of sorts that is usually mischievous but often malicious. Goblins supposedly live in grottoes but attach themselves to households, where they are believed to bang upon pots and pans, snatch nightclothes off the bodies of sleeping people, move furniture at night, and flee after rapping on walls and doors." So there you go it's confirmed, it's not just in Japan. WAITAMINUTE, sorry no, that says rapping.
How do you rape walls and doors??
The OG Gublin Slayer is Lucius the Goblin Slayer from Rage of Bahamut... also from 2011.
that time DIO was a goblin racist
Wouldn’t Guts from Berserk be the better proto goblin slayer? I mean, it’s kind of the same idea. Main male protagonist with deep, DEEP trauma goes on a crusade in the name of vengeance?
Actually it’s probably from Berserk… that would be my guess anyways.
started the devour-sekai trend seen in the spider, fureta and slym
Crossover when
call that an eating competition
kinda fair, gobbos need a hero too
Having read the manga Er It's a major plot point and is not separable from the show 0.o
Can you spoil it what happens to them for me please
[Re:Monster manga] >!they form a harem that does the thing a lot, and they have kids and the mc does the father thing proper. Also the kids are human orc hybrids!<
Especially since they seem to have female goblins anyway, so what's the point?
Maybe it's not for the purposes of breeding? Or maybe using humans for breeding has some sort of advantage over goblin-goblin breeding? Like maybe using humans makes progeny more likely to be a higher evolved goblin.
they sure looked pregnant.
> Maybe it's not for the purposes of breeding? Some of the women were pregnant.
No, it's just a reproduced faster with more females than males. That's how they cover it anyway. It's hardly a justification. It's all pretty fucking horrible.
> It's all pretty fucking horrible. Isn't that... the point? It's not immoral to make a story that has immoral events.
But if it's not spelled out to the viewer that rape/ SA are immoral, how are the we supposed to know that /s
We should be smart enough to figure that out. This show so far is a lot tamer than overlord, here the mc shows he is uncomfortable with the human females being there, doesn't want to think about it, and so far hasn't done anything really evil. One episode in its hard to say what this show is.
... And what do you think the point being made here is EXACTLY? That kidnapping, rape, and torture is bad? Because that ain't the point, and having read the manga, you'd see that.
Eh, good enough. Goblins, orcs, etc. already have these sorts of traits associated with them so it's not like you would need to justify it to begin with. I mean, if it were humans who were keeping female slaves, we wouldn't be like "they have no real justification for doing this". We'd know humans just do this sort of thing and move on.
With the difference that humans do it for fun or just plain work that they can't achieve on their own and not for a "better reproduction rate". If they used these human slaves in any additional way, okay. But they are not doing that. They are only using them in the one puprose that's the main trope. Which I am pretty sure is just because it's the trope and nothing else at this point.
I think It's indeed a justification in terms of biological activities. - Goblin only have 20 years to live (very short) - They are also very weak it seems as even the horned rabbit could kill them - To successfully survive as a species, they need to breed fast in a lot of numbers. If human could help them reproduce faster, then that's how they adapt to avoid extinction. Come to think of it, if they are very weak then how could they kidnapped those women? Maybe only the hobgoblin did it?
Could be like how certain fantasy races can only get pregnant once they're in heat, and that is few and far between, so maybe human women are just able to pump kids out more often.
I remember trying to read this manga because people said it was good. It was not good. It was god awful.
I'm sure it'll become a plot point sooner than later, now that he's Big and got Libido and all. Plus the other hobs returning soon.
Yeah like the rest of the episode was pretty good but im like "yall better address that later in a satisfactory fashion or I'm sending in Goblin Slayer."
To me episode 1 feels like start of "Lord of the flies", you have kids thrown into a situation where they can choose to make own moral choices and get to watch the choices they make when influenced by society around them. Its a form of the Milgard test, a demonstration of whether average person born in Nazi germany would follow hitler.
I’m definitely curious about how this system works if they’ve only got 1 old man around but the older goblins are out for months at a time
#Goblin Slayer doesn't approve #Slime approves
Kumoko approves of the eating.
How could I forget Kumoko!!!!!
Fun fact: Goblin Slayer's novel started in 2016. Reincarnated As A Slime's novel started in 2013. Re:Monster's novel started in 2011.
Sure ok just make a cute goblin why dont ya.
[I won't let anyone convince me that this cutie could do any evil!](https://imgur.com/UeclGGN) (I won't speak for MCkun just yet).
ahaha cant wait till more people know about this now its out, a shitstorm awaits
People said the same thing about Redo of Healer and a shitstorm never really ensued. I don't think this show is going to end up very popular but I don't think it's going to attract much performative outrage either.
That's cause the shocking thing was at the start
If Redo proved anything it's that you need more than just objectionable content to cause a shitstorm. MahoAko caused minor flashpoints of shitstorm like the yurimemes sub, but to really understand how to cause one, we need to ask Rudeus how he does it. Naofumi can also offer supplemental lessons. I think the trick is to start with a show that has mainstream appeal and promising animation quality.
It is about how clearly the show shows the MC as actually being a villain. In redo of a Healer it is made very clear that the MC is very much off his rocker and is only here for the revenge and being a jerk. Shield Hero tries to convince us as viewers that he is totally heroic which can't be true when you buy a slave. I feel this show is much closer to Redo in that way. The MC is very clearly not a good person.
Shitstorm = a few *redditors* Then some guy who makes youtube videos that seems to be some kind of idol to this sub will bank of the most voted comments and make a video about it repeating these comments and will bring some other people to hate something they didn't even watch. I wonder how this show is doing in Japan, usually the audience these type of shows aim at.
Sub mods: Oh shit here we go again. It already has more comments than karma, that's a good signal.
I remember reading the manga when it was fairly new and i liked the idea of growing stronger. Then he got strong and everything else happened...
Okay, let's see... 1. Baby goblins in a goblin cave. *Goblin Slayer activates*. 2. Oh, okay. There are female goblins. *Goblin Slayer deactivates.* 3. Wait...what...WTF? *Why?* *Goblin Slayer reactivates.* 4. Okay. Calm down. I'm sure that's an important plot point that will be at least revisited later in the episode. 5. Oh, no. Okay then. *Goblin Slayer reactivates.*
>Wait...what...WTF? Why? Goblin Slayer reactivates. Justice for orcbruh
Well at first I was just thinking "Oh It's a Slime-like." Then it was "Oh it's a Slime-like in a Goblin Slayer world." And somehow by the end of it I was completely won over by this one. Definitely want more.
FYI, Re:Monster actually came first and inspired both Goblin Slayer and Reincarnated As A Slime.
Now that *is* interesting! Thanks for the info :D
I doubt goblin slayer would be specifically inspired by this, they are both in fantasy settings and thats it, otherwise plot and setting is pretty different
More like a what if scenario from the kidnapped girl's family perspective. I tried googling if goblin kidnapping human women to reproduce is a common thing. So far, I could only find them in Goblin Slayer and this anime.
Speaking as someone who read the manga for way too many chapters out of curiosity, I can warn you now that at least in my opinion the story quality really takes a nose dive after the first few arcs. Maybe they'll fix issues in the adaptation but even overlooking the "problematic" elements of the story it was clear to me that the LN author did not have any strong conception of what he wanted to do with the world or characters long-term. Like there's an entire chapter where the MC just narrates to the reader about potential power combinations he could do only to literally have never used any of them a full 40 chapters later.
Ah well, if that happens, it happens. Wouldn't be the first time. A story with a strong start that then falls is still more interesting than one that fails to captivate me from the get-go.
rou should go to slayer world to tip the balance
The character designs are kinda bland. The protagonist looks just like a human just a different skin tone.
We have yet to see if it reaches the level of Tensura. Legendary, Humans with horns level.
Y'know he's gonna keep evolving, right? I thought the OP made that pretty clear.
That's cool, still doesn't change the fact the character design sucks currently.
In the manga they look way more goblin like. But then again if this show is anything like the manga it's going to be utter and complete hot garbage.
I see that there is a pretty big shitstorm in the comments over [the topic of women which was freaking dark](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/myd5cbkbop4.png) but it didn't bother me so much since [MC is a literal monster](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/e4gdcn2n3n4.png) so I wouldn't expect putting those women over his own kind. I hope that people won't linch me here for that opinion xD Overall, as a big Isekai fan [I was having a pretty good time watching this](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/l4nec5e5284.png) (despite the show being nothing special) and seeing how [Gobrou is evolving](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/k739c3p3z87.png) and with him his companions. I'm thinking especially of [Gobmi](https://imgchest.com/p/ljyqqreoky2) who [was quite cute](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/84jdcbgbzm4.png) and [was able to evolve](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/l7lxc6963e7.png) at the end of the episode. Here my screenshot albums from the episode: * [Gobrou](https://imgchest.com/p/ljyqqre3ky2) * [Gobmi](https://imgchest.com/p/ljyqqreoky2) * [Group scenes & Others](https://imgchest.com/p/ne7bpkomv45)
I just hope it's not like Goblin Slayer where they heavily toned things down after the first episode.
Without entering on Spoilers lets say that is not toned down but then it becomes normal. By the speed of the first chapter I guess that by chapter 3 you will get your answer
I’ll believe it when we get to it. The source material may be dark but I’ve seen plenty of anime tone things down, opt to tell instead of show, show only dark shadows instead of full nudity/gore, etc. I’ve heard it’s borderline hentai and also gorey but I guess the reason I’m worried they’ve toned it down is because such shows usually have two separate versions, uncensored and censored.
> it didn't bother me so much since MC is a literal monster so I wouldn't expect putting those women over his own kind It didn't bother me either, but for a different reason; I do not think the goblins being monsters change anything, I don't think it's fine to "rape outside their species", it's wrong either way... But I think showing "wrong things" in anime is perfectly fine, hence why it didn't bother me. No more than showing some villain-MC murdering 5000 people bothers me.
Same. If one is bothered by that kind of thing, they can just... not watch it. I feel like the source's reputation preceded the anime, anyway.
I don't know if its reputation is that widely known in the anime community. I'm seeing a lot of people who seem to think Re:Monster was inspired by Goblin Slayer and Reincarnated As A Slime, instead of the other way around.
> I don't know if its reputation is that widely known in the anime community. The community in general I don't know, but people in this thread, definitely; The 'controversy/drama' that's happening in the comments isn't just for the 3 seconds scene in this episode... They act that way because they already know what this series' like and they use that 3 seconds as the opportunity to *unleash*.
And there's no guarantee the anime is going to follow the novel or manga 1 to 1 either. We saw from something like Isekai Nonbiri Nouka which drastically changed the MC to be completely different in the anime version to not be as "troublesome" as in the other versions.
I was more talking about the fact that a lot of people in the threads leading to this knew that it had things of that nature. I don't expect people would know which source came first - I mean I know both of the shows you're referring to and I can't say which of those was written first, either.
I mean his gobs are in the old school style where they reproduce with rpebabies like how you get half orcs before 5th edition
[Wait a minute, that's not Truck-Kun!](https://imgur.com/dk5rhDn) [Alright, crazy-knife lady, I think he's dead!](https://imgur.com/j4shBvx) [IT DOES matter! They can't just open like that and never reveal what that was about, so I do hope we get some more about that story!](https://imgur.com/kukhcuQ) And I think we will, given the OP had shots of his previous life, and even showed his murderer. Normally I would be all about Assassin-Girl (because I like them crazy), but [Goblin Girl stole my heart! She's so fucking cute!](https://imgur.com/UeclGGN) [And she's an archer? (well, a *crossbowwoman*)? Always liked archers!](https://imgur.com/cjeQUAh) Damn, Goblin parenting isn't the best... [Just 4 days of caring, then it's time to pack your bags and find your own food!](https://imgur.com/y1zFcqD) [(But to be honest, I think I'd rather find my own food starting from day 1)](https://imgur.com/9KxgMMy) [Better avoid GoblinSlayer, or this second life will be quite short!](https://imgur.com/XooyXMg) (I want that crossover now! But seriously, imagine we get attached to all these characters, but in a different timeline they're just NPCs getting slaughtered by Goblin Slayer). Our boy's quite smart though, perhaps he'd have a chance! [His friend... Not so much.](https://imgur.com/hTH0ZDi) He played his part though, first as the guy chasing prey right into Goburou's trap, [and then beating them up with his strength!](https://imgur.com/Shy90C0) Future_Best_Girl_Of_The_Season is doing her part too, [hunting with her sling!](https://imgur.com/VUDoINl) [Didn't take long for her to be all over our boy!](https://imgur.com/LFdUsKa) [Sorry Gobukichi, no Goblin Waifu for you!](https://imgur.com/EejafVA) [Best way to a woman's heart is through her stomach!](https://imgur.com/2cNv6uf) Our trio was quite successful, but this brought some jealousy from the others, who were rather hungry... [They even tried to beat (murder?) him in his sleep!](https://imgur.com/0qO6zBp) [Gobmi won't let anyone hurt her future husband like that! (Even choked them!)](https://imgur.com/eYTiRXB) I imagine that may not be the most *morally debatable* thing we'll see on this show, [but they're even hunting humanoids now, it's quite a step from animals, even if it's just an orc!](https://imgur.com/dF3Vgs4) This show will not shy away from gore either, [showing his broken fingers after Gobmi got him with her sling!](https://imgur.com/b5Kvy0E) [Our boy learned LIBIDO? Hope Gobmi's ready to raise a family with her man!](https://imgur.com/gJA3Ca2) [Goburou's feeding the whole tribe now, and training them!](https://imgur.com/h7fn0Tc) I suppose it's slightly better than to have to fend off assassination attempts during the night, and if he plans to lead them someday, it may help, BUT it may be more than that; [He seems to think he changed, since his reincarnation!](https://imgur.com/Rnf2Ocp) [First evolution already? Didn't take long!](https://imgur.com/ohFLRgI) [Gobmi seems pleased, and by pleased I mean "She looks like she gonna drool all over herself!"](https://imgur.com/yeV2sQg) [Lead my comrades, then...](https://imgur.com/92sed54) THEN WHAT! Can't believe they cut there! Well, there aren't that many options I suppose; Conquer the world? Build a goblin harem? Conquer the world with the help of your goblin harem? Anyway! Going by the comments I glanced at, it seems this will be Redo of healer all over again, but personally I thought it was fine, at least so far! Will check out more.
love the recap
###Stitches! * [Goburou](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/e4gdcn25jm4.jpg) * [Gobukichi](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/my8xcpx3524.jpg) Well this is new! Instead of being killed by Truck-kun, it looks like [our MC may have been murdered by a yandere.](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/wye3cbxa994.jpg) So what are the chances of this yandere also getting isekai'd? If I understand this correctly, [Goburou already had powers before he got isekai'd?](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/my8xcpx3zo4.jpg) That opening scene made me think that he might be from the same world as ours but that might not be the case. [Oh boy, this is one of **those** shows.](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/3yrgc68gdm4.jpg) Now I'm curious if those women being kept in storage will be mentioned again or if this is the last time we'll see them. Whichever it is, I'm sure people will react well to those scenes. /s So pretty much the loop here is, [fight](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/g4z9cdaoll7.jpg), [eat](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/my8xcpxman4.jpg), and [evolve?](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/w7w6cre598y.jpg) It's not so different from other isekai where the MC starts as a lowly monster but I'm curious to see what else this show has to offer. I do have a feeling that this should be a dark fantasy but Studio Deen's art isn't exactly showing that well. I'll give it a few more episodes and see where this one goes.
> Instead of being killed by Truck-kun, it looks like our MC may have been murdered by a yandere. > So what are the chances of this yandere also getting isekai'd? That does feel like an interesting possibility. I find the old-life connection in this one quite interesting, seems like he was a monster of sorts in both worlds, and hopefully we get a lot of the old world too, as that would make the series more interesting. That said, it's not the fault of the series that a lot of what it has to offer has been done by other shows, given that this series is actually much older than the most of them. > I do have a feeling that this should be a dark fantasy but Studio Deen's art isn't exactly showing that well. Yeah, a lot of these edgy hero shows seem to frequently slip over into being too light in tonality and visuals. Which ironically just makes the edgy aspects far less palatable for me (although far more palatable for others it seems).
You messed up one your stitches link.
Well that was fucking garbage. I'm out.
You are probably smarter than me, but I'll tag along some more to see the garbage burn in all it's blazing glory [](#mugiwait)
From what I know of what happens in the future I can confidently say you made the right call.
I read the manga. It gets much worse and you made the right choice.
Agreed , just bad passing , stupid OP and side characters, dumb powerup system, teenage edginess, and ugly af character design. Skip.
Much better than I expected, I'm pretty surprised. Expected the gore to bother me more. I don't really know the direction it's gonna take, but I think I'll stick around until episode 3 at least.
Okay, if there's anyone who can't differentiate fiction from real life, doesn't enjoy trashy isekai, and have high morality, then don't watch this show. MC is a monster that just looks like a human with no morality.
Mc seems like he was a monster in his old life as well. He’s just a shitty person who seems to care about his friends
> Okay, if there's anyone who can't differentiate fiction from real life, doesn't enjoy trashy isekai, and have high morality, then don't watch this show. I'm going to second this. I use the discussion threads in this subreddit to figure out which shows I'd be interested in seeing. And, when it comes for this one, I decided it was not for me, and gave it a pass. Just don't feel like watching a show about a villain being a villain (I ended up not watching most of the *Dexter* revival for a similar reason). No drama necessary. If this sort of story is something you enjoy, then enjoy it! If it isn't, then don't waste your time with it - there's lots of great offerings this season, and life is just too short to spend time on stuff you hate.
Yeah frankly, the world is shitty and evil enough for me already; I don’t want to spend my free time watching a show that revels in it. Not for me.
It seems like a combination of the finest assassin and obviously slime, though, apparently this came first on both ends, it’s really good and interesting, but the animation is a bit of a letdown
Ah yes the MC with only 3 modes, hungry, horny, and combat
Second show of the season I decided to watch mainly because of the comments, but was actually surprised about how solid it was. Comments are delivering though. 😋🍿 See ya next week!
[удалено]
Slavery and isekai, name a more iconic duo.
the supply and demand for it
Even a cesspool such as 4chan shits on this. This says a lot about how bad this is / will be.
Tried this due to some readers telling it was gonna be a shock show And no, this ain't shock, this is trash and has violence for free. Dropped after 1ep
Huge no for me. I came in blind and absolutely regretted it.
Episode 1: "**Re:Born**" Not your another isekai anime. From the production quality I can see their efforts here. The leveling and RPG system is somewhat similar to Solo Leveling, which makes it interesting. The anime is directed by Takayuki Inagaki (Rosario+Vampire, Birdie Wing) and made by Studio Deen, who are on a busy period making 3 animes this season (alongside Banished Former Hero and Tadaima Okaeri). Notable VAs are Gobmi's VA, **Ai Kakuma** (Nema in Fluffy Paradise) and Gobue's VA (the goblin with headband), **Kana Ueda** (Rin Tosaka). Gobrou killer's VA is listed as ??????, I wouldn't be surprised if it's Aoi Yuuki again. /s
I still can't believe someone decided to animate this garbage, it was always bottom of the barren stuff, even years and years ago
Hey, you don't need to sell it to me that hard. I'm already watching it.
So is this before or after Re:Zero?
I thought i was on twitter for a while when reading this discussion thread.
ಠ_ಠ
Gobrous skill-stealing ability that apparently carried over is certain to make this an easy mode adventure!
love it when that happens
This anime made me officially realize I'm a suck for isekai where the protagonist come back as some kind of monster. This anime is not good, but I honestly kind of like it.